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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:54am On Mar 02, 2025
cococandy:
Funny thing conservatives used to pride themselves as lovers of nature and all things natural.
Was he lobbying to chop up forests,sell all the trees and buy himself a beach home ?
Schultz previously served as vice president of resources and government affairs at Idaho Forest Group, where he led timber procurement operations and managed relationships with government officials at all levels. A former U.S. Air Force officer, Schultz also served as director of the Idaho Department of Lands, overseeing the management of several million surface acres of endowment lands and minerals. He held leadership roles in Montana’s Department of Natural Resources and Conservation, managing the Trust Lands and Water Resources Divisions.

Schultz holds a bachelor’s degree in government from the University of Virginia, a master’s degree in political science from the University of Wyoming, and a master’s degree in forestry from the University of Montana.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:02am On Mar 02, 2025
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth privately warned Mexican officials that US military was prepared to take action against drug cartels: report

Mexico is not happy , he told them he would bomb fentanyl labs as govt moved to protect the cartels. The tarriffs issue is big. Mexico extradited 29 cartel criminals to America for trial yesterday. Tariffs do work. 25% import tarriffs work much better .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:18am On Mar 02, 2025
Botragelad:
How have you been?
I’m doing great .Thanks for asking.

I hope you’re doing well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 6:33am On Mar 02, 2025
What a sad end to Michael Avenatti’s legal career

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:31am On Mar 02, 2025
Even the one that served under him the first time
Five former defense secretaries condemned President Trump’s firing last week of senior military leaders as “reckless” and urged Congress not to confirm their successors.

In an extraordinary letter to lawmakers on Thursday, the five men — including one who served under Mr. Trump during his first term — asked that the House and the Senate hold “immediate hearings to assess the national security implications of Mr. Trump’s dismissals.”

The letter is signed by defense secretaries who served under both Democratic and Republican presidents since 1994: William J. Perry, Leon Panetta, Chuck Hagel, Lloyd J. Austin III and Jim Mattis, Mr. Trump’s first defense secretary.

In a purge of the military’s senior ranks last Friday, Mr. Trump fired Gen. Charles Q. Brown Jr., a four-star fighter pilot who was only the second African American to be the Joint Chiefs chairman, saying he would be replaced by a little-known, retired three-star Air Force general, Dan Caine. In all, six Pentagon officials were fired, including Adm. Lisa Franchetti, the chief of Naval Operations, and Gen. James Slife, the vice chief of the Air Force; and top lawyers for the Army, Navy and Air Force.

“Mr. Trump’s dismissals raise troubling questions about the administration’s desire to politicize the military and to remove legal constraints on the president’s power,” they said in the letter. “Talented Americans may be far less likely to choose a life of military service if they believe they will be held to a political standard.”

Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has said the firings are within the president’s right to choose who he wants in these positions.

The five former defense secretaries urged Congress to “hold Mr. Trump to account for these reckless actions and to exercise fully its constitutional oversight responsibilities.”

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:35am On Mar 02, 2025
PDPGuy:
What a sad end to Michael Avenatti’s legal career
That's how life should work - you break the law, you pay the price.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:37am On Mar 02, 2025
cococandy:
Even the one that served under him the first time
Unfortunately, this Congress is captured. They dare not subject their dear leader to any oversight scrutiny.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:39am On Mar 02, 2025
cococandy:
Funny thing conservatives used to pride themselves as lovers of nature and all things natural.
That was before their dear leader came on board.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 7:45am On Mar 02, 2025
descarado:
America should withdraw from NATO.
NATO has outlived its usefulness.
🤣🤣🤣😁😁😁🤣🤣🤣 - You aren't well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
Konkoja:
Unfortunately, this Congress is captured. They dare not subject their dear leader to any oversight scrutiny.
Even if Trump withdraws us from NATO, openly swears allegiance to Russia and requires us to sing the Russian national anthem at US official events, they will still find a way to justify it.

If Elon Musk’s nazi salute didn’t convince them they’re on the wrong side of history, nothing will.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
bemeruca:
I watched the whole thing. They tolerated him for 40mins. Trump wants to be a mediator but he wanted him to take Sides. How do you mediate if you take a side?
Just watched the whole 48 minutes.
Zelensky has no shame, dictating what he wants. Future security guarantee with American companies on the ground. In other words America troops guarding the Ukraine boundaries at the minimum. Extrapolating about future peace he wants more aid to beat back Russia and retake Crimea.
On top of that he spoke over both Trump and Vance. Utterly disrespectful.
Coming to Europe who have small armies, their population won't fight , they just want the easy life and for America to prop up their defences. Their migrant population didn't go there to fight for Europe they are there for self economic benefits . The migrants who want to fight like in UK went to join ISIS against their own countries. More of them joined ISIS than the UK military.
EU can puff their chests, offer aid but no soldiers , they are too cowardly to engage direct with Russia.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:50am On Mar 02, 2025
bemeruca:
The Europeans hates the US, they are always virtuous, always talk like the have the moral high ground. They are always in it but their money is never in it, just their mouth to utter we stand with you, we support you even if they are nowhere near you. They know other virtuous idiots like the democrats will put in the money.
Stop lying

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 10:53am On Mar 02, 2025
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:00am On Mar 02, 2025
Tales from two worlds.
Under Joe Biden, Chris Wray confirmed the worst threat to America was Domestic Terrorists aka white nationalists. Joe Biden repeated April 2021: “.. the most lethal terrorist threat to the homeland today is from white supremacist terrorism". Biden 2 months later doubled down "According to the intelligence community, terrorism from white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the homeland today. Not ISIS, not al Qaeda — white supremacists....... .”
Attorney General Merrick Garland “told congress that violence incited by white supremacists poses ‘the most dangerous threat to our democracy.."

White supremacists are Trump supporters. Biden went for the J6ers, went for Trump,spied on Catholic churches for pro- lifers and parents in school.board meetings , embedded itself on social media deplatforming critics and went for grandmothers praying outside abortion clinics.

Now Tulso Gabbard has identified terrorists who swarmed through the borders as the most serious threat. 99 on terrorist watch list had already been arrested crossing the border . In short Tulsi Gabbard knows that jihadists are the worst threat to national security.

Joe Biden admin viewed Trump supporters as the worst threat .. because had they prevailed they would have kicked the liberals out from power. This is a terrible misuse of resources to go after your political opponents. I think it rises to the level of a crime.
There were reports of an Iranian anti aircraft missile smuggled in by Iran that can shoot down a plane.
The trappings of power and it's pursuit does absolutely corrupt individuals.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:21am On Mar 02, 2025
Ibime:
Stop lying
Chatbot tell me this about America aid to Ukraine since the invasion to Feb 2025.

Total Military Assistance: Approximately $65.9 billion in military aid has been delivered to Ukraine.
Emergency Funding: The U.S. has allocated around $128 billion in total commitments dedicated exclusively to support Ukraine during the conflict.
Recent Aid Packages:
On January 9, 2025, the U.S. approved its 74th package of military aid, valued at $500 million



Who doesn't know that data can be manipulated to suit the occasion.
Chatgpt

According to official records, Congress appropriated or otherwise made available nearly $183 billion for Operation Atlantic Resolve and the broader Ukraine response. Additionally, the United States provided $20 billion in loans as part of the G7 nations' extraordinary revenue acceleration loans initiative.
UKRAINEOVERSIGHT.GOV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:24am On Mar 02, 2025
basilico:
Chatbot tell me this a out America aid to Ukraine since the invasion to Feb 2025.

Total Military Assistance: Approximately $65.9 billion in military aid has been delivered to Ukraine.
Emergency Funding: The U.S. has allocated around $128 billion in total commitments dedicated exclusively to support Ukraine during the conflict.
Recent Aid Packages:
On January 9, 2025, the U.S. approved its 74th package of military aid, valued at $500 million



Who doesn't know that data can be manipulated to suit the occasion.
Of course you saw Dec 2024 on the screenshot, and your number from Feb 2025 is in the same ballpark as the screenshot, and of course Europe continues to give and still ahead of America, never mind funds committed into the future of which Europe has hundreds of billion and America none

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:29am On Mar 02, 2025
Ibime:
Of course you saw Dec 2024 on the screenshot, and your number from Feb 2025 is in the same ballpark as the screenshot, and of course Europe continues to give and still ahead of America, never mind funds committed into the future of which Europe has hundreds of billion and America none
$183 billion does not neighbor $113B if my maths is right.

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/


Your data is sexed up by EU and Democrat supported statisticians.

I had updated to this from chatgpt.

According to official records, Congress appropriated or otherwise made available nearly $183 billion for Operation Atlantic Resolve and the broader Ukraine response. Additionally, the United States provided $20 billion in loans as part of the G7 nations' extraordinary revenue acceleration loans initiative.
UKRAINEOVERSIGHT.GOV
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:10pm On Mar 02, 2025
basilico:
$183 billion does not neighbor $113B if my maths is right.

https://www.ukraineoversight.gov/Funding/


Your data is sexed up by EU and Democrat supported statisticians.

I had updated to this from chatgpt.

According to official records, Congress appropriated or otherwise made available nearly $183 billion for Operation Atlantic Resolve and the broader Ukraine response. Additionally, the United States provided $20 billion in loans as part of the G7 nations' extraordinary revenue acceleration loans initiative.
UKRAINEOVERSIGHT.GOV
If you clicked into your link above, you will see all the numbers agree

Roughly $120m given to Ukraine, and the remaining balance to $183bln spent by the US aid agencies directly for social alleviation in Ukraine

All agrees to Zelenskys statement couple weeks ago that about $170+bln has gone to Ukraine but he has only seen $70bln for weapons about $40bln+ for budget support and the rest was spent by US, which was of course spinned by Russia to say he can only account for $70bln of $170bln

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:49pm On Mar 02, 2025
Ibime:
If you clicked into your link above, you will see all the numbers agree

Roughly $120m given to Ukraine, and the remaining balance to $183bln spent by the US aid agencies directly for social alleviation in Ukraine

All agrees to Zelenskys statement couple weeks ago that about $170+bln has gone to Ukraine but he has only seen $70bln for weapons about $40bln+ for budget support and the rest was spent by US, which was of course spinned by Russia to say he can only account for $70bln of $170bln
Conclusion..Trump is lying about $350 billion.
Let's wait for an audit.
I lay the matter to rest.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:32pm On Mar 02, 2025
Ibime:
Stop lying
Bullshit, that's 4.1 billion per NATO Country.

And it's a loan
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 1:36pm On Mar 02, 2025
bemeruca:
Bullshit, that's 4.1 billion per NATO Country.

And it's a loan
Not all NATO population are the same

EU population is 450m to US 330m so contribution per head is more or less on par, mind you those Eastern Europeans are not as rich so Western Europeans are carrying more and more than US per head

33% of Europe aid is loan while 16% of US own is loan
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 1:36pm On Mar 02, 2025
bemeruca:
Bullshit, that's 4.1 billion per NATO Country.

And it's a loan
You seem to know better than the Europeans! 🤷🏼
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 1:40pm On Mar 02, 2025
basilico:
Conclusion..Trump is lying about $350 billion.
Let's wait for an audit.
I lay the matter to rest.
No, Dear Leader can't be lying, of course.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:44pm On Mar 02, 2025
Botragelad:
You seem to know better than the Europeans! 🤷🏼
Do your maths, 30 Countries made up NATO, so it's 4.4 billion per NATO Country in Europe

These 30 countries has a total of 3 aircraft carriers

1. Albania


2. Belgium


3. Bulgaria


4. Croatia


5. Czech Republic


6. Denmark


7. Estonia


8. Finland


9. France


10. Germany


11. Greece


12. Hungary


13. Iceland


14. Italy


15. Latvia


16. Lithuania


17. Luxembourg


18. Montenegro


19. Netherlands


20. North Macedonia


21. Norway


22. Poland


23. Portugal


24. Romania


25. Slovakia


26. Slovenia


27. Spain


28. Sweden


29. Turkey


30. United Kingdom
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:48pm On Mar 02, 2025
Ibime:
Not all NATO population are the same

EU population is 450m to US 330m so contribution per head is more or less on par, mind you those Eastern Europeans are not as rich so Western Europeans are carrying more and more than US per head

33% of Europe aid is loan while 16% of US own is loan
Even when you set the benchmark to their GDP they still fall short Ibime.

Contribution per head keh? How much support do they give to Taiwan or Israel? US carry all those wait while they vote against US interest but they still want US to per for problems at their soil.

It's not a per head thing. NATO seized 300 billion dollar worth of cash or asset from Russia yet they are not helping Ukraine destroy Russia till its too late.

They have man power issue in Ukraine. Giving them weapons now won't be too effective since Russia is in too deep
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by zendi: 1:57pm On Mar 02, 2025
basilico:
Tales from two worlds.
Under Joe Biden, Chris Wray confirmed the worst threat to America was Domestic Terrorists aka white nationalists. Joe Biden repeated April 2021: “.. the most lethal terrorist threat to the homeland today is from white supremacist terrorism". Biden 2 months later doubled down "According to the intelligence community, terrorism from white supremacy is the most lethal threat to the homeland today. Not ISIS, not al Qaeda — white supremacists....... .”
Attorney General Merrick Garland “told congress that violence incited by white supremacists
poses ‘the most dangerous threat to our democracy.."

White supremacists are Trump supporters. Biden went for the J6ers, went for Trump,spied on Catholic churches for pro- lifers and parents in school.board meetings , embedded itself on social media deplatforming critics and went for grandmothers praying outside abortion clinics.

Now Tulso Gabbard has identified terrorists who swarmed through the borders as the most serious threat. 99 on terrorist watch list had already been arrested crossing the border . In short Tulsi Gabbard knows that jihadists are the worst threat to national security.

Joe Biden admin viewed Trump supporters as the worst threat .. because had they prevailed they would have kicked the liberals out from power. This is a terrible misuse of resources to go after your political opponents. I think it rises to the level of a crime.
There were reports of an Iranian anti aircraft missile smuggled in by Iran that can shoot down a plane.
The trappings of power and it's pursuit does absolutely corrupt individuals.
Around the time that the Chinese we're testing their Hypersonic Missiles that circled the Globe at 5 times the speed of sound and frightened US Generals, from comments I heard that time, the newly elected Leftists were launching manhunt for "white supremacists" including within the US Military.
The Leftists' first act in office was to declare a war, not against Jihadists in the Middle East, but on "Extremists" within the US Military.

When America wants to wage hatred and war against itself, it elects Leftists'.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:00pm On Mar 02, 2025
zendi:
Around the time that the Chinese we're testing their Hypersonic Missiles that circled the Globe at 5 times the speed of sound and frightened US Generals, from comments I heard that time, the newly elected Leftists were launching manhunt for "white supremacists" including within the US Military.
The Leftists' first act in office was to declare a war, not against Jihadists in the Middle East, but on "Extremists" within the US Military.

When America wants to wage hatred and war against itself, it elects Leftists'.
China could be lying about their capabilities. That's how they did with deepseek.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 2:03pm On Mar 02, 2025
bemeruca:
Even when you set the benchmark to their GDP they still fall short Ibime.

Contribution per head keh? How much support do they give to Taiwan or Israel? US carry all those wait while they vote against US interest but they still want US to per for problems at their soil.
Of course they've brought more propaganda for eediots like you in order to victim shame Ukraine

Example, After Oct 7, UN resolution for immediate truce was opposed by US and 14 other countries. Ukraine abstained. Most countries voted in favour. Abstaining is a diplomatic way of opposing cos Ukraine knows their enemy Iran is behind Hamas, yet they can't oppose because most countries support ceasefire and they rely on all countries support. But Magaverse is now giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it.

Ukraine had 3rd largest force in Iraq behind US and UK, but that propaganda no gel
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:10pm On Mar 02, 2025
Ibime:
Of course they've brought more propaganda for eediots like you in order to victim shame Ukraine

[b]Example, After Oct 7, UN resolution for immediate truce was opposed by US and 14 other countries. [/b]Ukraine abstained. Most countries voted in favour. Abstaining is a diplomatic way of opposing cos Ukraine knows their enemy Iran is behind Hamas, yet they can't oppose because most countries support ceasefire and they rely on all countries support. But Magaverse is now giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it.

Ukraine had 3rd largest force in Iraq behind US and UK, but that propaganda no gel
Of course, 14 out of 30 is not acceptable. Some of the 14 may not be European NATO Countries.

Out of the most countries, how many of them is helping them against Russia? Does Ukraine want a cease fire for Russia invasion?

The way you change topic too is funny.

They should go and meet those countries that voted for cease fire against the US to help them. You are the one looking like a fool here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:13pm On Mar 02, 2025
Black people cooning for white supremacists will never not be embarrassing.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:14pm On Mar 02, 2025
cococandy:
Black people cooning for white supremacists will never not be embarrassing.
Posting another lie 😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:14pm On Mar 02, 2025
bemeruca:
Posting another lie 😂
Okay uncle ruckus
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