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Reading this statement feels like reading something from an entity with maternal insanity

Paraman:
A lot of you guys love complaining over nothing.

Unitary schools belong to the FG, every state has a quota to fill. A boy from Anambra is not competing with a boy from Borno to gain admission into a unitary school. A boy from Oyo is not competing with a boy from Taraba to gain admission into a unitary school.

If you're from Abia state, you will only compete with indigenes of Abia state for a slot in a unitary school. If the cutoff mark for Abia state is 100, the cut off mark will only affect students from Abia state.

A student from Ondo state is not competing with a student from Abia state. A student from Ondo state is competing with other students from Ondo state just the way a student from Imo is competing with other students from imo state.

If the cut off mark for students from imo is 90, it does not mean the cut off mark for Ogun or Kano students will be 90.

This argument ignores the core issue—setting different cutoff marks based on state of origin promotes inequality and lowers standards. Education should reward merit, not be dictated by geography. Instead of justifying a flawed system, we should push for policies that ensure every child, regardless of state, competes on a level playing field. Complaints about injustice aren’t "nothing"—they are necessary for progress.

nnamdi640:
This argument ignores the core issue—setting different cutoff marks based on state of origin promotes inequality and lowers standards. Education should reward merit, not be dictated by geography. Instead of justifying a flawed system, we should push for policies that ensure every child, regardless of state, competes on a level playing field. Complaints about injustice aren’t "nothing"—they are necessary for progress.

Very good question, but the issue here is that all states produce the same number of students each

Also how many people from other Regions have shops in Onitsha Market just give us a percentage estimate ?

There is hardly any evidence of significant numbers of shops allocated to people of other Regions in Onitsha Market

Also how many of the Market Unions in Onitsha Market are lead by people from other Regions?

And also please what percentage of other Regions are employees of Anambra state Govt?

nnamdi640:
This argument ignores the core issue—setting different cutoff marks based on state of origin promotes inequality and lowers standards. Education should reward merit, not be dictated by geography. Instead of justifying a flawed system, we should push for policies that ensure every child, regardless of state, competes on a level playing field. Complaints about injustice aren’t "nothing"—they are necessary for progress.

There's a reason unitary schools were created by Gowon. Unitary schools are not the only schools in Nigeria. There are thousands of states, private and missionaries schools across Nigeria students can choose from

Christistruth02:
Very good question, but the issue here is that all states produce the same number of students each

Also how many people from other Regions have shops in Onitsha Market just give us a percentage estimate ?

There is hardly any evidence of significant numbers of shops allocated to people of other Regions in Onitsha Market

Also how many of the Market Unions in Onitsha Market are lead by people from other Regions?

And also please what percentage of other Regions are employees of Anambra state Govt?

Bringing up Onitsha Market and state government employment is a distraction from the main issue—education should be based on merit, not tribal quotas. Markets and government jobs operate under different dynamics and are not comparable to school admissions, which should foster national unity and excellence. Defending an unfair system by pointing to unrelated matters only avoids addressing the real problem: a policy that sets different academic standards for different citizens is unjust and counterproductive.

nnamdi640:
This argument ignores the core issue—setting different cutoff marks based on state of origin promotes inequality and lowers standards. Education should reward merit, not be dictated by geography. Instead of justifying a flawed system, we should push for policies that ensure every child, regardless of state, competes on a level playing field. Complaints about injustice aren’t "nothing"—they are necessary for progress.

This argument ignores the core issues
Unity schools represent less than 0.0001 of secondary school placements in Nigeria

Therefore whatever happens there can never be a barometer of "standards"


There is no policy for "standards" in secondary schools in Nigeria especially at the point of admission. in the other 99.99999% of secondary school slots

Secondary School provision is EXCLUSIVELY a State Government responsibility as far as the constitution goes
The UNITY SCHOOLS do not exist as part of the secondary school provision Nationally. That is not an FG responsibilty

They exist for ONE REASON only to promote UNITY and DIVERSITY not as a barometer of scholastic standard

Your claim that education should reward merit is shallow and silly does education reward "merit" at Nursery school level admission? or Primary school level admission? If that were true it is more of a state government concern than a Federal Govern one

It is also ignorant

You have come to an ERRONEOUS conclusion that higher cut off scores means better performance? That is not what it means

It simply reflects higher demand in those states for slots outside their states


There is hardly anybody from Yobe State getting admitted to Kings College or FGC Enugu with a score of 2

But there are loads of people from Anambra and Imo trying to get into FGC Kano and Sokoto

That is what these scores reflect even when compared to other Southern states.

It could also be an indication of POOR SECONDARY SCHOOL PROVISION IN IBO STATES leading to excessive demand for Unity School slots

If their states are working why the noise for a very inconsequential number of secondary school slots across Nigeria

Secondary school provision is not the FG's responsibility

Alusiizizi:
We Igbo's are superior to every other major tribe in Nigeria. They need to put the cutoff marks for the southeastern states so high so that those top federal schools don't get over-run by Igbo children. Igbo people are possessed of a higher natural IQ relative to the other tribes. There is no metric of academic intellectual power/aptitude that any other tribe comes even close to Igbo people. We dominate the Nigerian economic landscape, despite the combined land area of the southeastern states being smaller than most other states in Nigeria. Continue hating us, continue with your jealousy, all these have no import to our affairs, we will continue kicking your collective asses in education, continue driving our various businesses to increasingly higher levels and continue smiling at you on our way to the bank as we watch you worthless cone-heads stand at the sidelines and beg us for handouts. Cheers!

Do you know that this was the type of arrogance that lead to Oxford Educated Ojukwu loosing to Gen Gowon whose highest education at the time was a Sandhurst Military School Diploma

Do you know why?
Gowon had humility and Wisdom
Ojukwu had neither

Gajagojo:
This argument ignores the core issues
Unity schools represent less than 0.0001 of secondary school placements in Nigeria

Therefore whatever happens there can never be a barometer of "standards"


There is no policy for "standards" in secondary schools in Nigeria especially at the point of admission. in the other 99.99999% of secondary school slots

Secondary School provision is EXCLUSIVELY a State Government responsibility as far as the constitution goes
The UNITY SCHOOLS do not exist as part of the secondary school provision Nationally. That is not an FG responsibilty

They exist for ONE REASON only to promote UNITY and DIVERSITY not as a barometer of scholastic standard

Your claim that education should reward merit is shallow and silly does education reward "merit" at Nursery school level admission? or Primary school level admission? If that were true it is more of a state government concern than a Federal Govern one

It is also ignorant

You have come to an ERRONEOUS conclusion that higher cut off scores means better performance? That is not what it means

It simply reflects higher demand in those states for slots outside their states


There is hardly anybody from Yobe State getting admitted to Kings College or FGC Enugu with a score of 2

But there are loads of people from Anambra and Imo trying to get into FGC Kano and Sokoto

That is what these scores reflect even when compared to other Southern states.

It could also be an indication of POOR SECONDARY SCHOOL PROVISION IN IBO STATES leading to excessive demand for Unity School slots

If their states are working why the noise for a very inconsequential number of secondary school slots across Nigeria

Secondary school provision is not the FG's responsibility

Your argument completely sidesteps the real issue—equity in education. The fact that Unity Schools represent a small fraction of secondary school placements does not justify an unfair system. If their primary purpose is to promote unity and diversity, then applying different academic standards based on state of origin contradicts that very goal.

You claim that cutoff marks reflect demand, not performance. But why should students from some states be admitted with drastically lower scores while others face stiff competition? This reinforces mediocrity and inequality rather than solving the problem of poor education in certain states.

Instead of justifying an unfair system, why not advocate for better primary and secondary education across all states? That would address the root cause—disparities in education quality—rather than masking them with an imbalanced quota system.

nnamdi640:
Bringing up Onitsha Market and state government employment is a distraction from the main issue—education should be based on merit, not tribal quotas. Markets and government jobs operate under different dynamics and are not comparable to school admissions, which should foster national unity and excellence. Defending an unfair system by pointing to unrelated matters only avoids addressing the real problem: a policy that sets different academic standards for different citizens is unjust and counterproductive.

it is not
it is the same principle

what percentage of Anambra State Government owned shops and employment posts are allocated to people of other regions and what percentage of people from other Regions are market leaders in Onitsha?

Paraman:
There's a reason unitary schools were created by Gowon. Unitary schools are not the only schools in Nigeria. There are thousands of states, private and missionaries schools across Nigeria students can choose from

The reason Unity Schools were created does not justify an unfair admission system. If they were truly meant to foster unity, then setting different academic standards based on state of origin contradicts that purpose.

Yes, there are many other schools, but that does not excuse discrimination in the ones run by the federal government. The fact that alternative options exist does not mean we should ignore inequality where it exists. Fairness and merit should be the foundation of education, especially in institutions meant to represent national unity.

Christistruth02:
it is not
it is the same principle

what percentage of Anambra State Government owned shops are allocated to people of other regions and what percentage of them are market leaders in Onitsha?

This comparison is completely flawed. Education is a fundamental right and a tool for national development, while market leadership and shop allocations are driven by commerce and private interests. Government schools should uphold fairness and merit because they shape the future of the country.

If Unity Schools are meant to promote national integration, then using different academic standards based on state of origin only deepens division. Instead of justifying inequality in education by pointing to unrelated matters, the focus should be on improving access to quality education for all, regardless of region.

nnamdi640:
This comparison is completely flawed. Education is a fundamental right and a tool for national development, while market leadership and shop allocations are driven by commerce and private interests. Government schools should uphold fairness and merit because they shape the future of the country.

If Unity Schools are meant to promote national integration, then using different academic standards based on state of origin only deepens division. Instead of justifying inequality in education by pointing to unrelated matters, the focus should be on improving access to quality education for all, regardless of region.

it is not flawed because the state Govt has a method of scoring every individual for govt allocated shops and for employment positions.
when you see Anambra civil Service and the Govt built Markets you will ask this question of exactly what percentage of them was set aside for people of other Regions

nnamdi640:
The reason Unity Schools were created does not justify an unfair admission system. If .

There's a reason unitary schools were created and it will keep on serving the purpose it was created for.theres thousands of state, private and missionary schools across Nigeria

nnamdi640:
Your argument completely sidesteps the real issue—equity in education. The fact that Unity Schools represent a small fraction of secondary school placements does not justify an unfair system. If their primary purpose is to promote unity and diversity, then applying different academic standards based on state of origin contradicts that very goal.

You claim that cutoff marks reflect demand, not performance. But why should students from some states be admitted with drastically lower scores while others face stiff competition? This reinforces mediocrity and inequality rather than solving the problem of poor education in certain states.

Instead of justifying an unfair system, why not advocate for better primary and secondary education across all states? That would address the root cause—disparities in education quality—rather than masking them with an imbalanced quota system.

Your argument is in denial about reality

UNITY SCHOOLS are set up FOR UNITY
Again you are arguing foolishly

Unity schools represent less that 0.00001 % of secondary school provision
Secondary school provision is a state government responsibility so there is no basis to argue about equity in a school set up for exceptional purpose
If a school is set up for disable children you expect disabled children to be majority
If is a Catholic school the same principle applies
If is a unity school we must ask what does UNITY mean what are the enabling rules and policies

Again Secondary school education is not a federal government responsibility

Your claim about stiff competition with respect is stupid

It is not stiff competition but GREED
Each state has a quota
Even before the schools were set up that was the grundnorm
They are quota system schools They are supposed to set aside slots for children of diplomats serving abroad, children of other Nigerians working abroad, disabled children, The Host state State quota neighbouring states Environmental quota and then a certain quota called National Merit.
That is how the schools work But Ibos because they have bad schools in their home states go all over the country trying to seek quality education and when they are thwarted start claiming victim

IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT TO EDUCATE YOU NOT THE FG as far as secondary education is concerned

Gajagojo:
Your argument is in denial about reality

UNITY SCHOOLS are set up FOR UNITY
Again you are arguing foolishly

Unity schools represent less that 0.00001 % of secondary school provision
Secondary school provision is a state government responsibility so there is no basis to argue about equity in a school set up for exceptional purpose
If a school is set up for disable children you expect disabled children to be majority
If is a Catholic school the same principle applies
If is a unity school we must ask what does UNITY mean what are the enabling rules and policies

Again Secondary school education is not a federal government responsibility

Your claim about stiff competition with respect is stupid

It is not stiff competition but GREED
Each state has a quota
Even before the schools were set up that was the grundnorm
They are quota system schools They are supposed to set aside slots for children of diplomats serving abroad, children of other Nigerians working abroad, disabled children, The Host state State quota neighbouring states Environmental quota and then a certain quota called National Merit.
That is how the schools work But Ibos because they have bad schools in their home states go all over the country trying to seek quality education and when they are thwarted start claiming victim

IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF YOUR STATE GOVERNMENT TO EDUCATE YOU NOT THE FG as far as secondary education is concerned

Your argument is full of contradictions. If Unity Schools were truly created *for unity*, then applying different academic standards based on state of origin does the exact opposite—it fosters division and resentment.

You call it "greed" when students seek quality education outside their states, but that’s just a symptom of the real problem: disparities in education quality across Nigeria. Instead of addressing this issue, you defend a flawed system that rewards mediocrity in some regions while punishing excellence in others.

Quota systems exist, but they should not be an excuse to lower standards. If the goal is unity, then all students should be held to the same merit-based criteria. True unity comes from fairness, not favoritism.

Paraman:
A lot of you guys love complaining over nothing.

Unitary schools belong to the FG, every state has a quota to fill. A boy from Anambra is not competing with a boy from Borno to gain admission into a unitary school. A boy from Oyo is not competing with a boy from Taraba to gain admission into a unitary school.

If you're from Abia state, you will only compete with indigenes of Abia state for a slot in a unitary school. If the cutoff mark for Abia state is 100, the cut off mark will only affect students from Abia state.

A student from Ondo state is not competing with a student from Abia state. A student from Ondo state is competing with other students from Ondo state just the way a student from Imo is competing with other students from imo state.

If the cut off mark for students from imo is 90, it does not mean the cut off mark for Ogun or Kano students will be 90.

What kind of nonsense are you saying, just confusing yourself up and down.

The question is simple, why the disparity in cutoff mark when it relates to south East?.

A unity school should be equal opportunity for all, no quota system, no zoning of admissions.
Admission should be open to all purely on merit.

Nigeria is funny

Paraman:
There's a reason unitary schools were created and it will keep on serving the purpose it was created for.theres thousands of state, private and missionary schools across Nigeria

The existence of other schools does not justify an unfair admission system in Unity Schools. If these schools were truly created to promote unity, then the policy of different cutoff marks based on state of origin contradicts that purpose. Unity should be built on fairness, not favoritism.

Rather than defending a flawed system, the focus should be on improving education across all states so that no student feels the need to seek quality education elsewhere. True unity comes from equal opportunities, not enforced disparities.

Christistruth02:
it is not flawed because the state Govt has a method of scoring every individual for govt allocated shops and for employment positions.
when you see Anambra civil Service and the Govt built Markets you will ask this question of exactly what percentage of them was set aside for people of other Regions

Comparing education to government shops and employment is misleading. Education is a fundamental right and a tool for national development, while markets and civil service jobs operate under different economic and political considerations.

Unity Schools, as federal institutions, should be based on merit, not state quotas that promote inequality. If the goal is national unity, then the admission process should reflect fairness and equal opportunity, not regional favoritism. Instead of justifying a flawed system by pointing to unrelated matters, the focus should be on improving education across all states.

Paraman:
There's a reason unitary schools were created and it will keep on serving the purpose it was created for.theres thousands of state, private and missionary schools across Nigeria

Fairness has to be defined

The reason a school is set up determines what is fair?

If a school is a Catholic school it would have different criteria for admission from a Muslim school

The Nigerian Unity schools were set up to encourage children from diverse backgrounds that would never have met to meet

Rich poor Muslim Christian disabled and so on.

They were set up with the hope of contributing to preventing another civil war by encouraging interaction

The Criteria were established even before the schools started

As usual when Iboes don't get their way they start blackmailing everyone

Justnation:
What kind of nonsense are you saying, just confusing yourself up and down.

The question is simple, why the disparity in cutoff mark when it relates to south East?.

A unity school should be equal opportunity for all, no quota system, no zoning of admissions.
Admission should be open to all purely on merit.

Nigeria is funny

I have answered the question in my post but you don't want to accept it. Unitary schools belong to the federal government, each state has a quota to fill up in each unitary schools.

nnamdi640:
Comparing education to government shops and employment is misleading. Education is a fundamental right and a tool for national development, while markets and civil service jobs operate under different economic and political considerations.

Unity Schools, as federal institutions, should be based on merit, not state quotas that promote inequality. If the goal is national unity, then the admission process should reflect fairness and equal opportunity, not regional favoritism. Instead of justifying a flawed system by pointing to unrelated matters, the focus should be on improving education across all states.

Unity Schools should not exist at all. because it is not the Federal government job to provide secondary school education by the constitution

The Federal government could very easily give each state a school and let the states do as they please

The reason for the schools is NOT merit they are supposed to accommodate disabled people, Orphans, children of diplomats and others serving abroad and create an environment for interaction of people from diverse background

That principle was known from day one.

There is no way the Federal government can fund secondary schools in which one part of the country dominate
They rather hand over the schools to state government

nnamdi640:
The existence of other schools does not justify an unfair admission system in Unity Schools.

There's nothing wrong with the admission system. The admission system is serving a purpose and is doing fine. There are thousands of other schools in Nigeria who don't use this system students can choose from. Let the unitary schools keep on serving the only purpose they were created for.

nnamdi640:
Your argument is full of contradictions. If Unity Schools were truly created *for unity*, then applying different academic standards based on state of origin does the exact opposite—it fosters division and resentment.

You call it "greed" when students seek quality education outside their states, but that’s just a symptom of the real problem: disparities in education quality across Nigeria. Instead of addressing this issue, you defend a flawed system that rewards mediocrity in some regions while punishing excellence in others.

Quota systems exist, but they should not be an excuse to lower standards. If the goal is unity, then all students should be held to the same merit-based criteria. True unity comes from fairness, not favoritism.

There is no different academic standard

There is a quota
the only resentment is from the Iboes and that is their nature To be bitter and resentful

Standards in secondary schools?

Of 0.00001% provision?

What are the standards in Ibo state schools

Why not go there?

Why focus and make so much noise about 70 something schools schools out of the thousands of schools in Nigeria

There are 24000 secondary schools in Nigeria and is it 70 that determine your so called standards

Resentfulness is in your DNA

There are 24000 secondary schools in Nigeria but Iboes get so exercised because they have shitty schools in their home states and are not allowed to overrun the Unity schools

The Unity schools are less than 100 why the noise?

Paraman:
A lot of you guys love complaining over nothing.

Unitary schools belong to the FG, every state has a quota to fill. A boy from Anambra is not competing with a boy from Borno to gain admission into a unitary school. A boy from Oyo is not competing with a boy from Taraba to gain admission into a unitary school.

If you're from Abia state, you will only compete with indigenes of Abia state for a slot in a unitary school. If the cutoff mark for Abia state is 100, the cut off mark will only affect students from Abia state.

A student from Ondo state is not competing with a student from Abia state. A student from Ondo state is competing with other students from Ondo state just the way a student from Imo is competing with other students from imo state.

If the cut off mark for students from imo is 90, it does not mean the cut off mark for Ogun or Kano students will be 90.

does this rubbish makes sense to you?

Paraman:
Lol

The way some of you guys are just complaining over this issue eh Every state in Nigeria have a quota to fill in every unitary school. There's a reason unitary schools were created by Gowon.

Same reason why south east has only 12 out of the 104 unity schools in Nigeria...the truth is that this contraption called Nigeria is not working,we all need a breath of fresh air.

Gajagojo:
Listen I have zero patience for idiotic talk and have no qualms about being banned

Where and when did I talk about Obi?


If you do not know what is involved then keep quiet

Unity schools were set up on day one as a quota system enterprise
No state is entitled to more than its quota

To come out now saying we are scoring more and they are cheating us is dishonest and greedy



If we do not want unity schools we can scrap them

They were never set up as a centre for the best and brightest

That is not the purpose
They were supposed to have quota for disabled people and also for those children whose parents served abroad in Embassies or other government business

Why then bring up this lie and nonsense about Iboes scoring more? Was it ever a competitive thing

The reason Iboes score more I repeat is their greed
They saw that the Federal government spent money on these schools and had more demand per capita than their quota.
Are their no secondary schools in their states why must they be so desperate to dominate schools that were set up FOR UNITY

The reason Iboes score more I repeat is their greed
They saw that the Federal government spent money on these schools and had more demand per capita than their quota


I decided to copy and paste this from ur comment. Anybody that continues to argue with you after reading this has his or her self to blame.


It's obvious you're not sound upstairs

Antivirus92:
The reason Iboes score more I repeat is their greed
They saw that the Federal government spent money on these schools and had more demand per capita than their quota


I decided to copy and paste this from ur comment. Anybody that continues to argue with you after reading this has his or her self to blame.


It's obvious you're not sound upstairs

Is Your father sound upstairs just a question?

If you cannot debate walk away don't start what you cannot finish

There are 24000 secondary schools in Nigeria why all this noise about what is fewer that 100 schools

Did anyone ever say they were set up as centres of scholastic excellence? NO!!!

They are set up to foster national integration

AustineE1:
Same reason why south east has only 12 out of the 104 unity schools in Nigeria...the truth is that this contraption called Nigeria is not working,we all need a breath of fresh air.

Only?

How many should they have ?

Gajagojo:
Only?

How many should they have ?

Enough to satisfy the high competition there.

If their cutoffs are so high, then they should have the commensurate number of institutions to absorb the most.

They should even have the highest number of unity schools if necessary.

Those with cut-offs of 2 have no business having so many unity schools.
Its a waste of resources.

And anybody with a brain can see that.

CSTRR:
Enough to satisfy the high competition there.

If their cutoffs are so high, then they should have the commensurate number of institutions to absorb the most.

They should even have the highest number of unity schools if necessary.

Those with cut-off s of 2 have no business having so many unity schools.
Its a waste of resources.

And anybody with a brain can see that.

Provision of secondary education is not the responsibility of the Federal Government
That is the responsibility of the State government

A Christmas party is not intended to feed people for a whole year.

That is why they say everyday is not Christmas

Ask your state governments to provide secondary schools for you that is their constitutional responsibility

There are 24000 secondary schools in Nigeria and unity schools represent 0,005% so

If their cut off marks are so high it means their demand is high BECAUSE their state governments are failing in their responsibility

So their state governments need to do more and invest more in education

richie240:
Is that an acceptance of defeat?
Why do you think so?
Was there something (s) igbo did/are still doing that made u lose hope?

Not necessarily. Rather an admission that you have no vision to make progress in life as a country.