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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 4:22pm On Mar 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Really wise for a President to predict a recession. /s
One month overview.
The guy na werey.. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:24pm On Mar 10, 2025
Hypo - thesis

Weak guess.

Hyper - thesis.

Strong guess.

Theory---> far better than any guess. Goes beyond any guess work because it is preconditioned on established facts.

For example, no expert worth listening to claims "what I gave you will protect you against the VIRUS itself but won't protect you against someone who didn't take a weakened version of the same virus"

If you can protect me against the virus you can protect me against the virus when it is weakened, no?

I feel like Ben Bruce sometimes because I just want to make common sense grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:24pm On Mar 10, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
If only they know the damages Trump is doing to already declining US influence. My prayer is that it won't get irredeemable before Trump leaves office. From my little knowledge, I pray US doesn't become another failed empire like Rome.

America's greatness that MAGA is shouting for, is not just about the amount of cash in each of American's purse, it is a lot more about the influence of US Economy and Military power all over the world, after all US is only about 10th position when we look at GDP per capita of countries. But today that influence is diminishing, The economy of US including her allies are shrinking, today BRICS is ahead of G7 controlling about 35% of the world GDP, while G7 control about 28% of the the world GDP, it was not like that before now, and these Tariff Trade wars US is fighting will only hurt her more and isolate US economy from the rest of the world.

It is not a good thing that the rest of the world are already looking for alternatives to US, now few developing nations are looking up to US to take loan from, or have a deal to develop their infrastructure, those nations are getting better deals from BRICS now. And no thanks to the removal of little favor in USAID to these countries, they are now bold cutting deals with China and others, which they ordinarily would have discussed with US.

Military-wise, the way Trump is handling Ukraine war and his attitude to NATO is also sending wrong signals. Few of US allies still see US as a dependable ally, certainly Canada is not. Many countries are now asking US to remove their military base from their countries, even poor Niger that is dealing with insurgents and rebels, feels no need for US military base in their country. Not a good thing.

And making the matter worse, US has a president that talks and acts before thinking and he is surrounded by 'Yes Sir" men. Not looking good at all.
I could give you a lengthy response but I couldn’t tell you anything that you don’t know yet and we are on the same page anyway.

But what can Democrats do now is the question we should ask. Because if they don’t address the sorrows of the average working class American effectively, in future, we might end up with someone who is even worse than Trump. Trump is clueless and cruel but cruel and smart is a more deadly combo.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 4:24pm On Mar 10, 2025
cococandy:
This has to be a very poor attempt at rage bait. Lmao.
Oh, I'm not trying to rage bait, just stating my opinion. Since this is the 'American politics' thread, I thought it would be nice to gauge your thoughts on the matter. Was I wrong?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 4:25pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
Hypo - thesis

Weak guess.

Hyper - thesis.

Strong guess.

Theory---> far better than any guess. Goes beyond any guess work because it is preconditioned on established facts.

For example, no expert worth listening to claims "what I gave you will protect you against the VIRUS itself but won't protect you against someone who didn't take a weakened version of the same virus"

If you can protect me against the virus you can protect me against the virus when it is weakened, no?

I feel like Ben Bruce sometimes because I just want to make common sense grin
What are you smoking?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:30pm On Mar 10, 2025
Maeve7:
What are you smoking?
What part don't you agree with?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:31pm On Mar 10, 2025
No one is dragging Canada for their tariff or China for their tariff on Canada. This goes to show that IjeBos, cococandy and the rest of the bunch hates this country.

I see a lot of Canadians coming to the US to buy stuff. When I ask why they say it's cheaper.
Canada should be the 51st state.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:39pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Oh, I'm not trying to rage bait, just stating my opinion. Since this is the 'American politics' thread, I thought it would be nice to gauge your thoughts on the matter. Was I wrong?
There’s no way you’ve read my posts in the past without seeing that I clearly would not be in support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Or Trump’s distasteful “solution” of moving them out of their homeland in favor of owning the place for himself and his friends.

You cannot convince me that Oct 7 is the beginning of all the problems in that region. Everyone knows it’s not.
Or that Israel is an innocent country “protecting” itself.

You also do not need to lecture me on the dangers of Islamic extremism. I know that well enough. But I do feel like you could use some lessons on the dangers of zionism. Although, but I won’t be the person to talk to you about that. Just because I know you won’t be receptive to that information.

And If you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you on the subject.

Hope this summary is helpful so you don’t have to feel the need to ask me again or try to discuss this subject further.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:40pm On Mar 10, 2025
Maeve7:
What are you smoking?
Something that should’ve clearly been banned from public consumption grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:40pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
It's not about the projections. It is that stupid people who lack critical thinking skills gobble it up and immediately start promoting it like it is gospel truth.

Fools, who are primed to supporting evil no matter how it tries to announce itself.

- Your taxpayer's money was used to fund NATO and EU's wars whilst they used theirs to buy Russian energy. But it is Trump who is lionizing Russia.

- I know you fools need someone to connect the dots for you. Well, if that war in Ukraine was a proxy war (which it is) it means the entire NATO/EU apparatchik supported by US intelligence and funds failed spectacularly in denting Russia.

AKA Russia won and the US lost, BIGLY.

Trump is trying to save face for America. Especially for a useless war that should've never commenced.

Why are you guys so delusional about the US's capacity?

In what world is America being projected as weak for stylishly pulling out of a war that has ALREADY been lost. grin

I've never had to contend with this level of stupidity in my life.

You guys just saw Russia defeat NATO/EU + USA in Ukraine and you are still playing Ostrich about the USA's strength? Why? Because your media said so?

The same media of Ukraine is winning and at the same time stop Putin before he takes over Europe?

See why it goes back to the media? Why do you think you can trust the same people who lied to you about Kamala Harris? Why?

Do you really think she lost by 1.5%? Does 20% approval rating match with only 1.5 million people preferring Trump to her?

I don't want to inform your truth. I just care that you had all the right information before you came to your own conclusions.
Margaret Brennan of CBS news interviewed Kristi Noem the DHS secretary.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kristi-noem-homeland-security-secretary-face-the-nation-transcript-03-09-2025/

Read or watch. It's very apparent that all she wanted was to poke holes and make her look her bad in every way.

The media of today is just pathetic.
Kristi came prepared and handled every question expertly.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:42pm On Mar 10, 2025
cococandy:
There’s no way you’ve read my posts in the past without seeing that I clearly would not be in support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Or Trump’s distasteful “solution” of moving them out of their homeland in favor of owning the place for himself and his friends.

You cannot convince me that Oct 7 is the beginning of all the problems in that region. Everyone knows it’s not.
Or that Israel is an innocent country “protecting” itself.

You also do not need to lecture me on the dangers of Islamic extremism. I know that well enough. But I do feel like you could use some lessons on the dangers of zionism. Although, but I won’t be the person to talk to you about that. Just because I know you won’t be receptive to that information.

And If you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you on the subject.

Hope this summary is helpful so you don’t have to feel the need to ask me again or try to discuss this subject further.
What is genocide?
You are using a term you don't understand
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:45pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
It's not about the projections. It is that stupid people who lack critical thinking skills gobble it up and immediately start promoting it like it is gospel truth.

Fools, who are primed to supporting evil no matter how it tries to announce itself.

- Your taxpayer's money was used to fund NATO and EU's wars whilst they used theirs to buy Russian energy. But it is Trump who is lionizing Russia.

- I know you fools need someone to connect the dots for you. Well, if that war in Ukraine was a proxy war (which it is) it means the entire NATO/EU apparatchik supported by US intelligence and funds failed spectacularly in denting Russia.

AKA Russia won and the US lost, BIGLY.

Trump is trying to save face for America. Especially for a useless war that should've never commenced.

Why are you guys so delusional about the US's capacity?

In what world is America being projected as weak for stylishly pulling out of a war that has ALREADY been lost. grin

I've never had to contend with this level of stupidity in my life.

You guys just saw Russia defeat NATO/EU + USA in Ukraine and you are still playing Ostrich about the USA's strength? Why? Because your media said so?

The same media of Ukraine is winning and at the same time stop Putin before he takes over Europe?

See why it goes back to the media? Why do you think you can trust the same people who lied to you about Kamala Harris? Why?

Do you really think she lost by 1.5%? Does 20% approval rating match with only 1.5 million people preferring Trump to her?

I don't want to inform your truth. I just care that you had all the right information before you came to your own conclusions.
How is Russia defeating NATO if they could manage 17% of Ukraine in 3 years and depleting all their military assets.

The only card they have got is Nukes and if another mad man should call their bluff Russia will be chased out of Ukraine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:50pm On Mar 10, 2025
Trump's tariff on China will bite them so hard.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 4:51pm On Mar 10, 2025
basilico:
Margaret Brennan of CBS news interviewed Kristi Noem the DHS secretary.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kristi-noem-homeland-security-secretary-face-the-nation-transcript-03-09-2025/

Read or watch. It's very apparent that all she wanted was to poke holes and make her look her bad in every way.

The media of today is just pathetic.
Kristi came prepared and handled every question expertly.
I saw this as well. And the emboldened is exactly what I believe.

People don't yet understand the level of betrayal they've suffered and still suffer at the hands of the legacy media.

They hate you guys (obviously not referring to you).
They don't rate you.
They underrate you guys.
They underestimate you.

Yet you rush to cape for them like sado-masochists who love to be pummeled.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 4:57pm On Mar 10, 2025
cococandy:
There’s no way you’ve read my posts in the past without seeing that I clearly would not be in support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Or Trump’s distasteful “solution” of moving them out of their homeland in favor of owning the place for himself and his friends.

You cannot convince me that Oct 7 is the beginning of all the problems in that region. Everyone knows it’s not.
Or that Israel is an innocent country “protecting” itself.

You also do not need to lecture me on the dangers of Islamic extremism. I know that well enough. But I do feel like you could use some lessons on the dangers of zionism. Although, but I won’t be the person to talk to you about that. Just because I know you won’t be receptive to that information.

And If you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you on the subject.

Hope this summary is helpful so you don’t have to feel the need to ask me again or try to discuss this subject further.
Cococandy, again with this "genocide" bollocks. Genocide is a specific, deliberate act aimed at wiping out an entire people. Are civilians getting killed in Gaza? Absolutely, all thanks to Hamas. But to throw around that word , "genocide" as if it's some sort of virtue signal, as if it makes you a better person, is not only intellectually dishonest, it's a bloody insult to the actual victims of genocide. You are trivialising their suffering, reducing it to a cheap political point. Have you seen how the world reacts? Do you know that the world reacts a thousand times worse when a civilian is killed? So what needs to be done? Not go to war at all? 🤷🏼

October 7th wasn't the beginning. No duh! History didn't start on October 7th, genius. But it was a turning point, a stark reminder that some people and let's be blunt, it's Hamas are simply not interested in peace. They're not interested in compromise. They're interested in one thing, and one thing only: the destruction of Israel and the murder of its people. October 7th wasn't just some random act of violence, it was a deliberate, calculated attempt to inflict maximum carnage and terror. It was a pogrom, plain and simple. And I'm not surprised how much you try to downplay it, to somehow contextualise it as just another event in a long line of events, quite disgusting.

Then there's your utterly sanctimonious dismissal of Israel as not being an "innocent country 'protecting' itself." Love, there are no bloody innocent countries. Every nation-state is built on a history of violence, exploitation, and compromise. But Israel, surrounded by enemies who openly call for its annihilation, has a right to defend itself. It has a duty to protect its citizens from those who want to kill them. And if that means taking action that results in civilian casualties, then so be it, but it doesn't negate the fundamental right to self-defense. Are Hamas innocent?

Do you understand what Zionism is or what "dangers of Zionism" are you talking about. You say it like some sort of truth, but you can't even explain what you mean by it. It's just a convenient little buzzword for you guys.
Well, let me tell you something, Zionism is, at its core, the belief that the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Is that really so dangerous? Or is it just another excuse for Jew-hatred? Explain what you think and why.

You then finish by saying that if I think "every Palestinian is a terrorist," you're not interested. Hamas is a terrorist organisation, a cancer and the people are clearly interwined with them. And until they are eradicated, I doubt there can be any peace, no progress, and no future for anyone in that region. So, if you're so concerned about the well-being of the Palestinian people, why aren't you condemning Hamas in the strongest possible terms? Why aren't you demanding that they lay down their arms, renounce violence?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:58pm On Mar 10, 2025
If this is true it will only make matters worse for them

The ALAWITE ( MUSLIMS)PLEAD WITH ISRAEL TO SAVE THEM!


Alawite leaders sent an urgent letter to the Prime Minister and Foreign Minister:
"Save us from the brutal regime, we will receive you with songs and flowers." The letter also includes a surprising appeal to the Israeli media: "Shed light on the massacres"
Israel cannot avoid scrutiny around the world from countries like the UK and other antisemitic nations for helping the alawites.

They have enough on their plates already.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 4:59pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
If this is true it will only make matters worse for them



Israel cannot avoid scrutiny around the world from countries like the UK and other antisemitic nations for helping the alawites.

They have enough on their plates already.
Agreed!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 4:59pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Cococandy, again with this "genocide" bollocks. Genocide is a specific, deliberate act aimed at wiping out an entire people. Are civilians getting killed in Gaza? Absolutely, all thanks to Hamas. But to throw around that word , "genocide" as if it's some sort of virtue signal, as if it makes you a better person, is not only intellectually dishonest, it's a bloody insult to the actual victims of genocide. You are trivialising their suffering, reducing it to a cheap political point. Have you seen how the world reacts? Do you know that the world reacts a thousand times worse when a civilian is killed? So what needs to be done? Not go to war at all? 🤷🏼

October 7th wasn't the beginning. No duh! History didn't start on October 7th, genius. But it was a turning point, a stark reminder that some people and let's be blunt, it's Hamas are simply not interested in peace. They're not interested in compromise. They're interested in one thing, and one thing only: the destruction of Israel and the murder of its people. October 7th wasn't just some random act of violence, it was a deliberate, calculated attempt to inflict maximum carnage and terror. It was a pogrom, plain and simple. And I'm not surprised how much you try to downplay it, to somehow contextualise it as just another event in a long line of events, quite disgusting.

Then there's your utterly sanctimonious dismissal of Israel as not being an "innocent country 'protecting' itself." Love, there are no bloody innocent countries. Every nation-state is built on a history of violence, exploitation, and compromise. But Israel, surrounded by enemies who openly call for its annihilation, has a right to defend itself. It has a duty to protect its citizens from those who want to kill them. And if that means taking action that results in civilian casualties, then so be it, but it doesn't negate the fundamental right to self-defense. Are Hamas innocent?

Do you understand what Zionism is or what "dangers of Zionism" are you talking about. You say it like some sort of truth, but you can't even explain what you mean by it. It's just a convenient little buzzword for you guys.
Well, let me tell you something, Zionism is, at its core, the belief that the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Is that really so dangerous? Or is it just another excuse for Jew-hatred? Explain what you think and why.

You then finish by saying that if I think "every Palestinian is a terrorist," you're not interested. Hamas is a terrorist organisation, a cancer and the people are clearly interwined with them. And until they are eradicated, I doubt there can be any peace, no progress, and no future for anyone in that region. So, if you're so concerned about the well-being of the Palestinian people, why aren't you condemning Hamas in the strongest possible terms? Why aren't you demanding that they lay down their arms, renounce violence?
Number of babies born in Palestine since oct7th is greater than number of dead.

What kind of genocide is that?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:02pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Agreed!
The current regime may she them as haram for seeking help from Satan. That's a wrong move. And the Alawites were against Israel when Assad was around.

It is mind buggling how they didn't ask Iran for help but they are asking Israel.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 5:03pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Number of babies born in Palestine since oct7th is greater than number of dead.

What kind of genocide is that?
This 'genocide' is clearly nonsense. They're just pulling numbers out of their arses, and they think we're all going to swallow it.

If it was a genocide, there wouldn't be a single Muslim left anywhere close to Israel, not in Israel, not in Gaza.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 5:03pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
The current regime may she them as haram for seeking help from Satan. That's a wrong move. And the Alawites were against Israel when Assad was around.

It is mind buggling how they didn't ask Iran for help but they are asking Israel.
Trademark of Islamists!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:05pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
This 'genocide' is clearly nonsense. They're just pulling numbers out of their arses, and they think we're all going to swallow it.

If it was a genocide, there wouldn't be a single Muslim left anywhere close to Israel, not in Israel, not in Gaza.
More than 2 million Germans died in ww2, by their logic, it was genocide, and based on the number of dead, the Allied forces are the bad guys and nazi Germany are the victims
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 5:08pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
How is Russia defeating NATO if they could manage 17% of Ukraine in 3 years and depleting all their military assets.

The only card they have got is Nukes and if another mad man should call their bluff Russia will be chased out of Ukraine.
I don't even know where to start redirecting your mind from the point that you too swallowed the kool-aid.

What was the objective of the SMO as announced by Putin?

Don't tell me you're about to quote Zelensky or Milley and attach 3-day operation to Russia. That's another lie the media just propagated. What did Russia itself say was the objective? Why do you doubt them but not Sullivan, Zelensky etc who are liars?

Or is it Kiev? You know that there are 5 million people living in the city. Russia's 300K ground troops will need to completely destroy that City to over throw 5 million denizens. Why will Russia want to do that? Kiev is the mother of Russian Cities.

Okay, so if Russia are supposedly struggling with 20% of Ukraine, how were they supposed to then take over Europe? Both objectives CANNOT emanate from the same source.

Think critically.

Even Clinton confessed on video that Putin kept EVERY single agreement or deals they ever had. Putin has the reputation of a man who keeps his words more than any name that is being thrown at him.

Why should I doubt him and not them? Why?

Russia is not fighting Ukraine.
Russia is fighting NATO.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Botragelad:
Cococandy, again with this "genocide" bollocks. Genocide is a specific, deliberate act aimed at wiping out an entire people. Are civilians getting killed in Gaza? Absolutely, all thanks to Hamas. But to throw around that word , "genocide" as if it's some sort of virtue signal, as if it makes you a better person, is not only intellectually dishonest, it's a bloody insult to the actual victims of genocide. You are trivialising their suffering, reducing it to a cheap political point. Have you seen how the world reacts? Do you know that the world reacts a thousand times worse when a civilian is killed? So what needs to be done? Not go to war at all? 🤷🏼

October 7th wasn't the beginning. No duh! History didn't start on October 7th, genius. But it was a turning point, a stark reminder that some people and let's be blunt, it's Hamas are simply not interested in peace. They're not interested in compromise. They're interested in one thing, and one thing only: the destruction of Israel and the murder of its people. October 7th wasn't just some random act of violence, it was a deliberate, calculated attempt to inflict maximum carnage and terror. It was a pogrom, plain and simple. And I'm not surprised how much you try to downplay it, to somehow contextualise it as just another event in a long line of events, quite disgusting.

Then there's your utterly sanctimonious dismissal of Israel as not being an "innocent country 'protecting' itself." Love, there are no bloody innocent countries. Every nation-state is built on a history of violence, exploitation, and compromise. But Israel, surrounded by enemies who openly call for its annihilation, has a right to defend itself. It has a duty to protect its citizens from those who want to kill them. And if that means taking action that results in civilian casualties, then so be it, but it doesn't negate the fundamental right to self-defense. Are Hamas innocent?

Do you understand what Zionism is or what "dangers of Zionism" are you talking about. You say it like some sort of truth, but you can't even explain what you mean by it. It's just a convenient little buzzword for you guys.
Well, let me tell you something, Zionism is, at its core, the belief that the Jewish people have a right to self-determination in their ancestral homeland. Is that really so dangerous? Or is it just another excuse for Jew-hatred? Explain what you think and why.

You then finish by saying that if I think "every Palestinian is a terrorist," you're not interested. Hamas is a terrorist organisation, a cancer and the people are clearly interwined with them. And until they are eradicated, I doubt there can be any peace, no progress, and no future for anyone in that region. So, if you're so concerned about the well-being of the Palestinian people, why aren't you condemning Hamas in the strongest possible terms? Why aren't you demanding that they lay down their arms, renounce violence?
Your post is worthy of a honorary Masters degree.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 5:20pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
I don't even know where to start redirecting your mind from the point that you too swallowed the kool-aid.

What was the objective of the SMO as announced by Putin?

Don't tell me you're about to quote Zelensky or Milley and attach 3-day operation to Russia. That's another lie the media just propagated. What did Russia itself say was the objective? Why do you doubt them but not Sullivan, Zelensky etc who are liars?

Or is it Kiev? You know that there are 5 million people living in the city. Russia's 300K ground troops will need to completely destroy that City to over throw 5 million denizens. Why will Russia want to do that? Kiev is the mother of Russian Cities.

Okay, so if Russia are supposedly struggling with 20% of Ukraine, how were they supposed to then take over Europe? Both objectives CANNOT emanate from the same source.

Think critically.

Even Clinton confessed on video that Putin kept EVERY single agreement or deals they ever had. Putin has the reputation of a man who keeps his words more than any name that is being thrown at him.

Why should I doubt him and not them? Why?

Russia is not fighting Ukraine.
Russia is fighting NATO.
Quit yapping!
And don't insult your intelligence by pretending Putin's stated aims are anything other than a smokescreen. "Protecting Russian speakers"? "Denazification"? That's the sort of nonsense you feed to gullible people on state-controlled telly. The real objective was always regime change, grabbing territory, and reasserting Russia's dominance. Why else would they have sent troops to Kyiv in the first place? It's not about what he said, it's about what he did. And what he did was launch a full-scale invasion. Plain and simple.

Suddenly Putin fanboys are concerned about the cultural importance of Kyiv? Give me a break! If Putin thought he could snatch it without a fight, he'd have flattened the place without a second thought. We've seen what he did to Grozny, to Aleppo, to Mariupol. He doesn't give a damn about "sacred cities" when there's power to be grabbed. This is about naked aggression,. And you're falling for the "mother of Russian cities" line!😂

Russia can't even manage Ukraine but they're somehow poised to conquer Europe? It's very funny proposition to think that they could succeed in their goals after the world saw the failures in Ukraine. Their military's been exposed as a paper tiger, their economy is in tatters, and their international reputation is in the sewer. How could such trash take on NATO?

You're clutching at straws, boy. So Clinton once said Putin kept his word? . Even Hitler probably kept some promises. It doesn't change the fact that he's a liar, and a war criminal.
What reputation does Putin have aside from throwing people off buildings!

Blame the West for all your problems. The truth remains, Ukraine was a sovereign nation that dared to align itself with the West, and Putin couldn't stand it. This isn't about NATO expansion, it's about Putin's ego and his twisted vision of a Russian empire. And you're lapping it up like a thirsty child.

If Ukraine is controlled by "Nazis," why are so many Ukrainian soldiers fighting alongside their Jewish president? Are they all self-hating Nazis now? 😂
Also tell us how NATO is the aggressor, since they had to wait until after Russia invaded Ukraine to increase their presence in Eastern Europe? Bit of a strange way to start a war, wouldn't you say?

Look, I don't know you from Adam, but I'm genuinely concerned. You've clearly fallen down a rabbit hole of conspiracy theories and propaganda. It's not too late to pull yourself out. Start questioning everything you hear, especially from Russian sources. Seek out independent news and analysis. And for whatever sake, stop swallowing the Kremlin's lies. Your brain will thank you for it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:21pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
How is Russia defeating NATO if they could manage 17% of Ukraine in 3 years and depleting all their military assets.

The only card they have got is Nukes and if another mad man should call their bluff Russia will be chased out of Ukraine.
Putin has largely achieved his objectives with respect to Ukraine.
-He has taken the eastern part that is more Russian than Ukraine.
-Crimea the sea port is now contiguous with the Russian federation.
-Eastern Ukraine oil production esp shale oil would have eaten into Russia EU revenues. Its now in his hands. He is still selling oil to EU via China and India.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 5:27pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Quit yapping!
And don't insult your intelligence by pretending Putin's stated aims are anything other than a smokescreen. "Protecting Russian speakers"? "Denazification"? That's the sort of nonsense you feed to gullible people on state-controlled telly. The real objective was always regime change, grabbing territory, and reasserting Russia's dominance. Why else would they have sent troops to Kyiv in the first place? It's not about what he said, it's about what he did. And what he did was launch a full-scale invasion. Plain and simple.
Can you prove anything in this post?

- regime change you mean like 2014 when the US did so?

Explain what you have above in the context of Euromaidan. This is a knowledge check. Any form of diversions or deflections will be ignored.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:27pm On Mar 10, 2025
basilico:
Putin has largely achieved his objectives with respect to Ukraine.
-He has taken the eastern part that is more Russian than Ukraine.
-Crimea the sea port is now contiguous with the Russian federation.
-Eastern Ukraine oil production esp shale oil would have eaten into Russia EU revenues. Its now in his hands. He is still selling oil to EU via China and India.
His objective is kiev

Total fail
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 5:30pm On Mar 10, 2025
basilico:
Putin has largely achieved his objectives with respect to Ukraine.
-He has taken the eastern part that is more Russian than Ukraine.
-Crimea the sea port is now contiguous with the Russian federation.
-Eastern Ukraine oil production esp shale oil would have eaten into Russia EU revenues. Its now in his hands. He is still selling oil to EU via China and India.
For everybody else except Putin & Trump, their words don't matter. You have to theorize another motive or objective.

For Susan Rice, Biden. You simply cannot take their words and actions. You have to show videos of Biden sitting inside a building in Burisma to prove he was colluding with them and receiving bribes.

Rules for thee but not rules for we.

Double-standards.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 5:32pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
His objective is kiev

Total fail
Can you prove this or evidence only matters when it is people you don't like?

See why I warned against double standards?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:34pm On Mar 10, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
And the fact that Trump gave that answer makes the threat non existence?

This is why wise people are warning Trump about breaking away from NATO thinking it's all about USA alone. US foes are forging alliances while Trump is breaking US alliances; who is becoming weaker and who is getting stronger and who is getting weaker? You don't have to be a military expert to answer that. Without NATO, US can not singlehandedly handle Russia, China, and Iran combined. But with NATO yes.
Which NATO? The countries with 15,000 soldiers or the ones that are more concerned with dancing than actual military work?

Without US, lets see NATO tackle any of Russia or China. Not even combined
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by johnson0: 5:36pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
How is Russia defeating NATO if they could manage 17% of Ukraine in 3 years and depleting all their military assets.

The only card they have got is Nukes and if another mad man should call their bluff Russia will be chased out of Ukraine.
If Russia is a puny military force like you assert, why does Zelenskyy need $300 billion to defeat them?

If Russia is such a weak military force that would struggle against Amotekun, how are they a threat to the EU like leftists always claim?

Those 2 things cannot exist together.
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