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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:38pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
His objective is kiev

Total fail
I would say so , but not so much. Kiev wants to join NATO. That's not happening any time in the near future. I should have added that as another objective that has been largely met by his SMO (not a war declaration).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 5:39pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
Can you prove anything in this post?

- regime change you mean like 2014 when the US did so?

Explain what you have above in the context of Euromaidan. This is a knowledge check. Any form of diversions or deflections will be ignored.
Lol, was the Euromaidan not an uprising by the Ukrainian people against a corrupt and authoritarian government. Tell me otherwise.

If it was a US-backed coup, why did it take months of sustained protests and bloodshed to overthrow Yanukovych? Surely, the CIA could have just sent in a few guys in black suits to sort it out, couldn't they?

How about the million people march in Kyiv demanding his resignation? Were they all paid by the US?😂
By the way, why did you ignore my previous questions. Why am I obligated to answer yours when you couldn't provide a single answer to mine! 🤷🏼
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:41pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Lol, was the Euromaidan not an uprising by the Ukrainian people against a corrupt and authoritarian government. Tell me otherwise.

If it was a US-backed coup, why did it take months of sustained protests and bloodshed to overthrow Yanukovych? Surely, the CIA could have just sent in a few guys in black suits to sort it out, couldn't they?

How about the million people march in Kyiv demanding his resignation? Were they all paid by the US?😂
By the way, why did you ignore my previous questions. Why am I obligated to answer yours when you couldn't provide a single answer to mine! 🤷🏼
Lookup Victoria Nuland . That's all you need to know about Maidan Revolution.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:44pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
I don't even know where to start redirecting your mind from the point that you too swallowed the kool-aid.

What was the objective of the SMO as announced by Putin?

Don't tell me you're about to quote Zelensky or Milley and attach 3-day operation to Russia. That's another lie the media just propagated. What did Russia itself say was the objective? Why do you doubt them but not Sullivan, Zelensky etc who are liars?

Or is it Kiev? You know that there are 5 million people living in the city. Russia's 300K ground troops will need to completely destroy that City to over throw 5 million denizens. Why will Russia want to do that? Kiev is the mother of Russian Cities.

Okay, so if Russia are supposedly struggling with 20% of Ukraine, how were they supposed to then take over Europe? Both objectives CANNOT emanate from the same source.

Think critically.

Even Clinton confessed on video that Putin kept EVERY single agreement or deals they ever had. Putin has the reputation of a man who keeps his words more than any name that is being thrown at him.

Why should I doubt him and not them? Why?

Russia is not fighting Ukraine.
Russia is fighting NATO.
You are not making sense at all. There is not double standards with me on this ukraine Russia issue.

If Russia. Fact are these:

Russia is significantly weak
They have to move assets from Syria to Ukraine
As a result Syria fell
They don't have tanks
They are dying like flies in ukraine
Their airforce is degraded
Their air defence is a joke

The only card they have is they will use nuke. If one mad man says okay, we are ready for your nuclear war, unless they are serious they will lose their front in Ukraine. And even if they are not bluffing they will lose more as well as many other nations.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 5:45pm On Mar 10, 2025
basilico:
Lookup Victoria Nuland . That's all you need to know about Maidan Revolution.
Just another Putin fan boy. 😂😂
Victoria Nuland is all you need to know about Maidan? Right, and I suppose all you need to know about astrophysics is a telescope!

Enjoy your Kremlin garbage.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:46pm On Mar 10, 2025
basilico:
Lookup Victoria Nuland . That's all you need to know about Maidan Revolution.
Presence of foreign actors is not proof against the will of a people. There are foreign actors in every internal conflict.

That's like saying Americans didn't want independence from Britain because of the help they got from France, or Biafrans didn't want independence because France was helping them. The proof is in the pudding. If they had no will, they would have collapsed during the invasion in weeks.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:47pm On Mar 10, 2025
Ibime:
My thesis (and it's only a thesis) is that Trump wants to engineer a small crash to bring down interest rates

Serves the purpose of achieving lower rates on USA $9 trillion debt due for refinancing later this year. At current yields circa 4.5%, thats $400bln in interest payments alone which could be cut in half by lowering interest rates, but requires a crash to do so

It also suits he and his cronies personal agenda of gaming the markets (shorting and longing on insider info) everytime he makes unpredictable trade policy statements which they have been doing wotoporiously on Crypto which is beyond SEC oversight. In addition, there is little upside for them buying assets at these prices, a pullback will suit them fine. They have used crypto manipulations to raise capital (which should be approaching $1bln gained by now) and it's time to invest for generational gains at a good entry.

if my hunch is correct, which is only a thesis, a good strategy would be to keep powder dry and buy assets as soon as we get firmer messaging on deep interest rates cuts, or as soon as there is a black swan event, as cuts will surely follow. Keeping powder dry means your money on exchanges in dollar form. Every asset will go up from there. Tech sector for stocks and Crypto (Solana in particular) will have the biggest Delta from any crash. If you are in property, buy and lock away your interest rate for a long time. The game is to be sold, not told.
I have properties on >7% rates, Last week I was just told rates has hit 6.5% I am waiting to see if it reaches 5.5 so I can refi.

I am all for whatever Trump is cooking
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:47pm On Mar 10, 2025
basilico:
I would say so , but not so much. Kiev wants to join NATO. That's not happening any time in the near future. I should have added that as another objective that has been largely met by his SMO (not a war declaration).
Yes, Putin can have many objectives. It's not straightforward to join NATO.

They could have achieved the NATO part by talking. His main purpose was to control Ukraine.

Watch his interview with the Russian stooge Tucker Carlson and you will see Putin's vision on why he invaded.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:48pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
Which NATO? The countries with 15,000 soldiers or the ones that are more concerned with dancing than actual military work?

Without US, lets see NATO tackle any of Russia or China. Not even combined
Poland and those countries near Russia is enough manpower we need. Allow us to chop life.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:49pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Just another Putin fan boy. 😂😂
Victoria Nuland is all you need to know about Maidan? Right, and I suppose all you need to know about astrophysics is a telescope!

Enjoy your Kremlin garbage.
All sides have played their part on this issue.

Basilico is not entirely wrong. You can point fingers on all sides but at the end of the day, NATO provoked this invasion. At least they gave Putin excuses to invade Ukraine
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 5:51pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
I have properties on >7% rates, Last week I was just told rates has hit 6.5% I am waiting to see if it reaches 5.5 so I can refi.

I am all for whatever Trump is cooking
You might still see 2-3% from what Trump is cooking. At that point, you will just flip them for the profit cos price go shoot up

I surprise say you dey see profit at 7%, you guys yield must be crazy over there. You can't see profit above 5-6% at most in UK
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:51pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
No one is dragging Canada for their tariff or China for their tariff on Canada. This goes to show that IjeBos, cococandy and the rest of the bunch hates this country.

I see a lot of Canadians coming to the US to buy stuff. When I ask why they say it's cheaper.
Canada should be the 51st state.
There is a reason they are not answering the questions I asked since last week

Before Trump was Canada placing a tariff on US products? If yes what percent?
Before Trump was US placing a tariff on Canada products, If yes, what percent?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:52pm On Mar 10, 2025
johnson0:
If Russia is a puny military force like you assert, why does Zelenskyy need $300 billion to defeat them?

If Russia is such a weak military force that would struggle against Amotekun, how are they a threat to the EU like leftists always claim?

Those 2 things cannot exist together.
Because you need money to win wars.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:53pm On Mar 10, 2025
Ibime:
You might still see 2-3% from what Trump is planning

I surprise say you dey see profit at 7%, you guys yield must be crazy over there. You can't see profit above 5-6% at most in UK
I am not seeing any profit at 7%, even my 5.9% are just barely breaking even without considering repairs and maintenance but I have some 3-4% which are keeping me afloat. Plus some airbnb which is yielding beyond the normal rentals

The 7% I am running them at a loss the goal was always to get them at a low sales price high interest and then refi later to a lower interest rate

Wait you mean we might see 2--3% interest rate OR we might see 2-3% shave on current rate?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:54pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
There is a reason they are not answering the questions I asked since last week

Before Trump was Canada placing a tariff on US products? If yes what percent?
Before Trump was US placing a tariff on Canada products, If yes, what percent?
They are fools. Ijebos should move to Canada, he is woke, he is gay and he does not have children.

He is more like a Canadian
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:56pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
I am not seeing any profit at 7% but I have some 3-4% which are keeping me afloat. Plus some airbnb which is yielding beyond the normal rentals

The 7% I am running them at a loss the goal was always to get them at a low sales price high interest and then refi later to a lower interest rate

Wait you mean we might see 2--3% interest rate OR we might see 2-3% shave on current rate?
Trumps tariff on China has changed the direction of their CPI to negative
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:58pm On Mar 10, 2025
cococandy:
There’s no way you’ve read my posts in the past without seeing that I clearly would not be in support of Israel’s genocide in Gaza. Or Trump’s distasteful “solution” of moving them out of their homeland in favor of owning the place for himself and his friends.

You cannot convince me that Oct 7 is the beginning of all the problems in that region. Everyone knows it’s not.
Or that Israel is an innocent country “protecting” itself.

You also do not need to lecture me on the dangers of Islamic extremism. I know that well enough. But I do feel like you could use some lessons on the dangers of zionism. Although, but I won’t be the person to talk to you about that. Just because I know you won’t be receptive to that information.

And If you believe every Palestinian is a terrorist, I’m not interested in going back and forth with you on the subject.

Hope this summary is helpful so you don’t have to feel the need to ask me again or try to discuss this subject further.
How many people outside the middle east have suffered this danger of zionism vs how many people have suffered from Islamic extremism
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 5:59pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
How many people outside the middle east have suffered this danger of zionism vs how many people have suffered from Islamic extremism
2million Muslims are living in Israel.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:05pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
I am not seeing any profit at 7%, even my 5.9% are just barely breaking even without considering repairs and maintenance but I have some 3-4% which are keeping me afloat. Plus some airbnb which is yielding beyond the normal rentals

The 7% I am running them at a loss the goal was always to get them at a low sales price high interest and then refi later to a lower interest rate

Wait you mean we might see 2--3% interest rate OR we might see 2-3% shave on current rate?
We might see 2-3% mortgage rates and 0-1% Fed rate

Trump is well known for ignoring Fed advice on overheating economy and insisting on 0% interest rate. He is pushing Powell for it, but Powell is resisting for now until water pass garri. He has done the same to Powell in 2018 before, forcing him into low interest rates when Powell was trying to apply the brakes.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:06pm On Mar 10, 2025
Ibime:
Poland and those countries near Russia is enough manpower we need. Allow us to chop life.
In this war, Both sides will have to take some Ls and find way to leave with their dignity still intact

The was has been going on for 3yrs, 1m people dead with NATO and US throwing a lot of resources into it

Do you want to do another 3yrs and lose another 1m plus men?

Both sides need a soft landing where they can go home and claim some moral victory

Russia being a nuclear power will not be defeated militarily without it resorting to his nuclear option which is essentially WW3
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:08pm On Mar 10, 2025
Ibime:
We might see 2-3% mortgage rates and 0-1% Fed rate

Trump is well known for ignoring Fed advice on overheating economy and insisting on 0% interest rate. He is pushing Powell for it, but Powell is resisting for now until water pass garri. He has done the same to Powell in 2018 before, forcing him into low interest rates when Powell was trying to apply the brakes.
2-3% mortgage rates will not happen IMO is we see lower 4% sef make we thank God. Na covid bring those 2% rates and will never happen. I have a friend who was able to get 1.5% in Jan 2021 peak covid
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 6:09pm On Mar 10, 2025
Guess the person that wrote this is from Doge.. maybe one of those newly recruited school boys.. grin

"Its much more than 100percent"

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 6:09pm On Mar 10, 2025
Iran is the next war.

Rinse. Repeat.

PS: That's why you're seeing all the ethnic cleansing in Syria. This is what Israel wanted and Trump is playing fiddle.

For the fools who think I'm blindly MAGA. I DISAGREE with Trump on his Israel policy and Politics.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 6:10pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
You are not making sense at all. There is not double standards with me on this ukraine Russia issue.

If Russia. Fact are these:

Russia is significantly weak
They have to move assets from Syria to Ukraine
As a result Syria fell
They don't have tanks
They are dying like flies in ukraine
Their airforce is degraded
Their air defence is a joke

The only card they have is they will use nuke. If one mad man says okay, we are ready for your nuclear war, unless they are serious they will lose their front in Ukraine. And even if they are not bluffing they will lose more as well as many other nations.
So no proof.

I've binned this post.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:10pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
2million Muslims are living in Israel.
Thats what happens when they try to bothside this war with Hamas. Hamas is plainly evil and no equivalent on the other side who will abduct 6months old, rappe women at a concert
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 6:11pm On Mar 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Just another Putin fan boy. 😂😂
Victoria Nuland is all you need to know about Maidan? Right, and I suppose all you need to know about astrophysics is a telescope!

Enjoy your Kremlin garbage.
Ad hominem.

So no cogent argument as suspected.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1:
raumdeuter:
Which NATO? The countries with 15,000 soldiers or the ones that are more concerned with dancing than actual military work?

Without US, lets see NATO tackle any of Russia or China. Not even combined
So you think it's simply by the number of Military personnel?

What is the total number of military personnel of Israel vs that of Lebanon + Syria + Iran + Hamas combined?
and how come they have not been able to wipe out Israel?

And for the records, NATO has a combined military personnel of 3.42 million of which US contributes 1.33 million troop.

But it's not just by the number of military personnel, Türkiye has almost double of UK or Germany personnel, but you and I know Turkey cannot withstand either of them.

Also no matter how big US military is and how small the rest of NATO is, the alliance only make US stronger. NATO without US can withstand either of Russia or China, it will just be bloody, ( an experiment no one prays to see), I know they cannot boast of defeating Russia + China, so also you and I know that US cannot easily take out Russia + China alone too.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:13pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
There is a reason they are not answering the questions I asked since last week

Before Trump was Canada placing a tariff on US products? If yes what percent?
Before Trump was US placing a tariff on Canada products, If yes, what percent?
Maybe you should ask Trump. He negotiated the USMCA in 2020.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:15pm On Mar 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Maybe you should ask Trump. He negotiated the USMCA in 2020.
So you have the answer or Not?


Before Trump USMCA was Canada placing a tariff on US products? If yes what percent?
Before Trump USMCA was US placing a tariff on Canada products, If yes, what percent?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 6:16pm On Mar 10, 2025
Android17:
Ad hominem.

So no cogent argument as suspected.
You still unable to respond to my previous statement. Are you okay? 🤷🏼
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 6:16pm On Mar 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
In this war, Both sides will have to take some Ls and find way to leave with their dignity still intact

The was has been going on for 3yrs, 1m people dead with NATO and US throwing a lot of resources into it

Do you want to do another 3yrs and lose another 1m plus men?

Both sides need a soft landing where they can go home and claim some moral victory

Russia being a nuclear power will not be defeated militarily without it resorting to his nuclear option which is essentially WW3
It's not about defeat. Russia is also exhausted of manpower, logistics and have been under strict Capital controls for too long with crazy interest rates.

At this point a wise leader will play the game so Russia takes Crimea, and even Donetsk and Luhansk but give back their part of Zaporizhia and Kherson while holding back their $300bln for Ukraine reparations. They will also bring in China to apply pressure from the other side.

Putin can sell that to his people since his stated aim was taking Donetsk, Luhansk and "denazification" which means regime change. He can spin denazification however he likes and come out with his head held high.

What Trump is doing is setting them up to take all 4 regions by weakening Ukraine, not pay any reparations and resume normal trading relationships with the West. That is unconscionable to Europeans and the message has been that they will not resume normal relationship with Russia under those circumstances, nor will they return the seized money. So it is up to Trump now as to whether he is willing to sanction European countries for holding Russian money, let's see how much he loves Russia. This matter done serious pass wetin you imagine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:16pm On Mar 10, 2025
bemeruca:
No one is dragging Canada for their tariff or China for their tariff on Canada. This goes to show that IjeBos, cococandy and the rest of the bunch hates this country.

I see a lot of Canadians coming to the US to buy stuff. When I ask why they say it's cheaper.
Canada should be the 51st state.
Did you arrive in the US before or after you posted these pics of Canada pretending they were pictures you took the day you landed in the US?

Something's broken in your head that you spend everyday pretending you live in the US.
You have a mental illness.

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