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basilico:
There are always people who are unhappy with any regine .
Victoria Nuland lit the spark.

Android17:
You had to start with ad hominem and end with it because your actual argument is vacuous. Why you think you will pose that my way is beyond comical.

Vitor Yanukovych rejected the deal because amongst other things (energy prices to Ukrainians, engineering bioweapons etc which were unfavorable to his citizens) the deal also recommended cutting off completely from Russia culturally, politically, technologically, militarily, materially, and otherwise.

Why would Ukraine want that if Russia was offering the same loan at far less of those conditions?

Android17:
USAID funded protest. - FACTOS.

They even tried to assassinate the man (before the protests). His motorcade was shot up. Luckily he had been evacuated using a chopper while his motorcade played decoy.

They discussed the sharing of Ukrainian offices.

Everything they discussed in recorded audio happened as they wanted.

But you are to ignore it to claim

- Putin attacked Ukraine "unprovoked"
- Ukraine is a democracy
- Ukraine is our ally

Nobody has told me why I'm supposed to hate Russia.

Botragelad:
I was expecting a proper riposte, not this dribble of propaganda straight from someone who claims to have read books, blah blah blah, I mean shut up and listen! Still dodging the questions. How very predictable. 😂

Bioweapons, honestly. Lol That particular conspiracy theory has been thoroughly debunked. Why on earth are you clinging to it?

basilico:
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Android17:
They’ve been doing it.

I posted on another thread that the Georgia election fallout gave vibes of Euromaidan all over. This was before DOGE.

Android17:
Debunk it.

Noticed I deleted the rest of the drivel.

If you had points, you'd stick to them. I can read a long post but I don't need all the fluff and dreg.

You're displaying all the hallmarks of a complete buffoon. 2025 and you think "Conspiracy Theory", "Putin fan boy" are legitimate arguments?

I was entertaining you for passing the "Can type English" test.

basilico:
West interfering with other nations, hoping to weaken Putin and possibly remove him so they can get control Russia vast resources.
The west does not want Putin's offer of cooperation, they want him out and a pliable candidate to replace him.
Greed for wealth and political power is their driving force not goodwill to Ukrainians, Russians or anyone else
Greed.
Last I checked Victoria Nuland is a. Partner at prestigious DC lawfirm Covington and Burling with among others like Eric Holder. Trump revoked it's security clearances last week.

Botragelad:
Is that it? Is that all you managed to extract from my words? I'm not sure whether to laugh or pity you. Maybe both. Simultaneously. 😂

Seriously, who are you? Perhaps you should focus on fixing your own problems before attempting to critique mine. Go binge on more Kremlin propaganda and then come back so I can gently explain things to you like you're a confused toddler. You're not as smart as you think you are. Stop trying so hard, it's honestly painful.

Son, if you're still eager to demonstrate your complete lack of self awareness, go back and see who's been dodging my questions like a squirrel avoiding a car. It’s quite the show you’re putting on. Haha.

Android17:
So can't prove the debunked Conspiracy Theory. Got it.

FYI, I try to ignore the fluff and ad hominem but I always ultimately need to stop at the first sign I'm dealing with a numpty.

Soon as I saw "debunked" "Conspiracy theory", I knew I was responding to someone who was just promoted to post outside of the echo chamber.

You're who I think you are.

Run along. Another empty barrel.

basilico:
West interfering with other nations, hoping to weaken Putin and possibly remove him so they can get control Russia vast resources.
The west does not want Putin's offer of cooperation, they want him out and a pliable candidate to replace him.
Greed for wealth and political power is their driving force not goodwill to Ukrainians, Russians or anyone else
Greed.
Last I checked Victoria Nuland is a. Partner at prestigious DC lawfirm Covington and Burling with among others like Eric Holder. Trump revoked it's security clearances last week.

Android17:
I wanted to come back to this.

I mentioned that Zelensky was just a willing tool used to sacrifice his people for greed.

Everything Zelensky is implementing is what Yanukovych rejected. It's not hard to see.

This was Ukraine before the war vs After

basilico:
There is that agreement that UK signed with Zelensky of 100 years of cooperation in January
"It also cements the UK as a preferred partner for Ukraine’s energy sector, critical minerals strategy and green steel production"

Wonder whether a new president can honor that given that Zelensky term expired last year.

IjeBos:
Every debate you and I have had, you've lost.
What you do, intellectual dishonesty and gaslighting isn't debating.
You aren't intelligent enough to debate and so you employ the tools of idiots, thus making debating you exhausting.

Android17:
You had to start with ad hominem and end with it because your actual argument is vacuous. Why you think you will pose that my way is beyond comical.

Vitor Yanukovych rejected the deal because amongst other things (energy prices to Ukrainians, engineering bioweapons etc which were unfavorable to his citizens) the deal also recommended cutting off completely from Russia culturally, politically, technologically, militarily, materially, and otherwise.

Why would Ukraine want that if Russia was offering the same loan at far less of those conditions?

raumdeuter:
Lost a debate to you? You have the IQ of a toddler no one even has to try to win any debate with you
You are the least person here intellectually its a surprise how you survived till this age

IjeBos:
Lol.
Remember this time? You spent hours and post after post arguing with me the opposite of something that was in black and white.
Jesus, you're a dumbass, pretending that you're not.
I'll give you some credit, maybe you're to dumb to know how dumb you are.

armyofone:
So long USAID! May each country takes on the mantle and tarry on!

armyofone:
The cooking rate should be 3.0% or less not 5 5%

ObaIgwe1:
Lol then let US go alone and let's see how stronger or weaker she becomes. It might even help the rest of NATO to sit up... Strength is not by making mouth as Trump is doing.

bemeruca:
Move to Canada you are useless 😂

IjeBos:
Lol.
Remember this time? You spent hours and post after post arguing with me the opposite of something that was in black and white.
Jesus, you're a dumbass, pretending that you're not.
I'll give you some credit, maybe you're to dumb to know how dumb you are.

Maeve7:
So much winning.

IjeBos:
I can come and go to Canada as I wish. My US passport allows me that.
U know the passport of the country you have never been to?
Maybe one day you too will actually be able to post a photo you've taken in the US.
Not a photo of Canada pretending it's the US.
Nor a friend's photo they sent you that they took when they visited the US.

raumdeuter:
That is one of the numerous examples of how I took you to school and it didnt take much effort

IjeBos:
Our stable genius President literally talked his way into crashing the stock market.
How many President's can say they did that?
Such winning!