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Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 10:36pm On Mar 11, 2025
Lucifyre:
No but i know a dummy when i see one. One that makes baseless statements all over the place and is scared of backing up those statements with evidence and skirts around it, knowing deep down they're baseless. One that clearly doesn't get what an assertion is while making numerous empty claims expecting others to just swallow the dross hook, line and sinker. That's a grade A dummy. 😁Obviously with your response it's clear you pulled it out of your ass and it has no basis in reality.
Exactly as I said: you have no arguments. All you know are two words: assertion and evidence!
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by NasirIbnLaAhad: 9:31am On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Exactly as I said: you have no arguments. All you know are two words: assertion and evidence!
What is wrong with evidence?
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 9:55am On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Exactly as I said: you have no arguments. All you know are two words: assertion and evidence!
Id just copy paste my prev comment to help your amnesia.

"Lol! You keep mentioning think and ability to think but so far contradict yourself and have shown your own ability to think is just as bad as your abilty to spell which seemingly doesn't "occurre" to you. Quite ironically "ballanced"😅. At least with the bolded you had it in you to admit your god is the source of all things bad ergo malevolent. Thank you."
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 11:29am On Mar 12, 2025
NasirIbnLaAhad:
What is wrong with evidence?
This discussion has nothing to do with evidence. It is an intellectual discussion based on logic NOT evidence
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 11:36am On Mar 12, 2025
Lucifyre:
Id just copy paste my prev comment to help your amnesia.

"Lol! You keep mentioning think and ability to think but so far contradict yourself and have shown your own ability to think is just as bad as your abilty to spell which seemingly doesn't "occurre" to you. Quite ironically "ballanced"😅. At least with the bolded you had it in you to admit your god is the source of all things bad ergo malevolent. Thank you."
See my post above. Also you've been told.we have no way of knowing if anything is ultimately bad AND that the universe was based on certain laws and that God can't be constantly stepping in to break his own laws to prevent something "bad".
Your job is to counter those arguments NOT keep screaming "assertion" and "evidence" like a slowpoke!
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 1:30pm On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
See my post above. Also you've been told.we have no way of knowing if anything is ultimately bad AND that the universe was based on certain laws and that God can't be constantly stepping in to break his own laws to prevent something "bad".
Your job is to counter those arguments NOT keep screaming "assertion" and "evidence" like a slowpoke!
Dude is triggered 🤣 Calm down and stop expending energy foaming at the mouth, save it to be used by your last 2 brain cells, cause natural selection ain't going to be kind to someone as dense as you.

Now since you're obviously too dense to connect the dots of why i mentioned assertions let me educate you like you're 5, cause that much is obvious. "An assertion is a declaration that's made emphatically, especially as part of an argument or as if it's to be understood as a statement of fact".  " A declaration that is made emphatically (as if no supporting evidence were necessary)".

Now who makes baseless assertions in an argument passing it off as factual without providing the necessary supporting evidence for said assertions, only to then support it with more baseless claims and expects everyone to just swallow it hook, line and sinker. Obviously someone indoctrinated out of basic common sense. Or you think this is your church where 2 or 3 christards are gathered and the christard in chief spouts uneducated dross and they just take it without questioning cause he's in authority.

Nah! this is objective reality where the phrase diomnibus dubitandum is applied consistently by anyone with more than 2 working braincells which sadly doesn't apply to you😅. The effrontery to then mention logic alongside these baseless turd claims is only possible by someone who's as dense if not denser than gold.

You already clearly demonstrated your god as the source of evil, so why go rabid, i accepted your demonstration. Funny thing is i even asked a follow up which just shows your claims are nothing but from your delusions but you conveniently skipped it, cause even you know you're just spouting baseless dross which is why evidence frightens you like a lost stray cat.

Anyways I'd post it again, now you're about to go full rabid, Mr "You have been told" 😅🤡.

"By the way, which of the gods are you laying claim to as the one who created everything, cause there are over 10,000 of em laying same claims and how do we know your particular god orchestrated things exactly as you're saying"

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, Mr you have been told.😁
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 4:20pm On Mar 12, 2025
Lucifyre:
Dude is triggered 🤣 Calm down and stop expending energy foaming at the mouth, save it to be used by your last 2 brain cells, cause natural selection ain't going to be kind to someone as dense as you.

Now since you're obviously too dense to connect the dots of why i mentioned assertions let me educate you like you're 5, cause that much is obvious. "An assertion is a declaration that's made emphatically, especially as part of an argument or as if it's to be understood as a statement of fact".  " A declaration that is made emphatically (as if no supporting evidence were necessary)".

Now who makes baseless assertions in an argument passing it off as factual without providing the necessary supporting evidence for said assertions, only to then support it with more baseless claims and expects everyone to just swallow it hook, line and sinker. Obviously someone indoctrinated out of basic common sense. Or you think this is your church where 2 or 3 christards are gathered and the christard in chief spouts uneducated dross and they just take it without questioning cause he's in authority.

Nah! this is objective reality where the phrase diomnibus dubitandum is applied consistently by anyone with more than 2 working braincells which sadly doesn't apply to you😅. The effrontery to then mention logic alongside these baseless turd claims is only possible by someone who's as dense if not denser than gold.

You already clearly demonstrated your god as the source of evil, so why go rabid, i accepted your demonstration. Funny thing is i even asked a follow up which just shows your claims are nothing but from your delusions but you conveniently skipped it, cause even you know you're just spouting baseless dross which is why evidence frightens you like a lost stray cat.

Anyways I'd post it again, now you're about to go full rabid, Mr "You have been told" 😅🤡.

"By the way, which of the gods are you laying claim to as the one who created everything, cause there are over 10,000 of em laying same claims and how do we know your particular god orchestrated things exactly as you're saying"

Thanks for coming to my TED talk, Mr you have been told.😁
You know, I honestly can't believe someone can be this DUMB and still able to write.
WHAT IN THE HECK ARE YOU YAPPING ABOUT?!
Did you at all read the topic of the thread?? It is a purely intellectual discussion dummy! It is NOT about which of a million gods or whether God exists. The question of the thread is predicated on certain base assumptions. Our discussion is NOT whether those assumptions are correct. Our job is to answer the question based on the assumptions, NOT to determine whether the assumptions are correct or not!
I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you, dummy!
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by NasirIbnLaAhad: 5:56pm On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
This discussion has nothing to do with evidence. It is an intellectual discussion based on logic NOT evidence
If evidence is not involved, then you shouldn't be treating your assertions as fact, which you seem to have been doing.
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by NasirIbnLaAhad: 5:59pm On Mar 12, 2025
Lucifyre:
A remainder 🤣 i don't even know who you are. Anyways I'd remaind myself.
These guys love overcompensating for their lack of substance. See the way he's bragging about his online achievements to you. I'm pretty sure whatever thread he's referencing was him actually getting destroyed and cremated, while being all too blind to observe his unfortunate reality.
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 6:58pm On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
You know, I honestly can't believe someone can be this DUMB and still able to write.
WHAT IN THE HECK ARE YOU YAPPING ABOUT?!
Did you at all read the topic of the thread?? It is a purely intellectual discussion dummy! It is NOT about which of a million gods or whether God exists. The question of the thread is predicated on certain base assumptions. Our discussion is NOT whether those assumptions are correct. Our job is to answer the question based on the assumptions, NOT to determine whether the assumptions are correct or not!
I can't believe I'm having to explain this to you, dummy!
So as expected nothing just empty and dense as usual. I forgot you're working with 2 brain cells if not you'd have remembered "you've been told" 😏 not once, not twice before you started foaming at the mouth, that the case is settled with respect to the original topic before i asked a futher question due to your mouth foaming. Anyways as a poster boy for the obtuse thanks for demonstrating that you're clearly talking unverifiable baseless nonsense out your ass. Na really intellectual discussion 🤡
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 7:02pm On Mar 12, 2025
NasirIbnLaAhad:
These guys love overcompensating for their lack of substance. See the way he's bragging about his online achievements to you. I'm pretty sure whatever thread he's referencing was him actually getting destroyed and cremated, while being all too blind to observe his unfortunate reality.
It's so funny man. I'd really love to see the thread myself. Dude quoted me out of the blue, gbagaund and ran away saying he doesn't have my time. They love portraying their delusions as objective reality.
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Gabrielshow24: 7:31pm On Mar 12, 2025
Lucifyre:
It's so funny man. I'd really love to see the thread myself. Dude quoted me out of the blue, gbagaund and ran away saying he doesn't have my time. They love portraying their delusions as objective reality.
"ran away" 👀
I had better things to do at that moment.

I'm sure you remembered the God-debate all through the New Year.

You can go check it out!
And to the gentleman that jumped in without proper footing, I don't take this as an achievement. It's you rather that is projecting your mindset to me!

God forbid I should hold as a trophy the fact that I schooled atheists
If you have any thing of importance to contribute to the thread, kindly do so.
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 8:06pm On Mar 12, 2025
NasirIbnLaAhad:
If evidence is not involved, then you shouldn't be treating your assertions as fact, which you seem to have been doing.
Nope, I simply gave MY logical answer to the question OP asked. Someone with a different viewpoint would simply present them or point out where my view is flawed, NOT moronically screaming assertion and evidence. I said where God is good there has to counterbalancing evil to produce good/evil, just as you have north/south, up/down, etc!
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f):
Lucifyre:
So as expected nothing just empty and dense as usual. I forgot you're working with 2 brain cells if not you'd have remembered "you've been told" 😏 not once, not twice before you started foaming at the mouth, that the case is settled with respect to the original topic before i asked a futher question due to your mouth foaming. Anyways as a poster boy for the obtuse thanks for demonstrating that you're clearly talking unverifiable baseless nonsense out your ass. Na really intellectual discussion 🤡
Another IDIOTIC response. How is the original question settled? Where and when did you accept my answer that "since God is good there has to be counterbalancing evil to produce good/evil, just as you have north/south, up/down, etc!"?? If you accepted the answer you'd have said so and maybe elaborated on it - instead all you've been doing is screaming assertion and evidence and asking me which of 4 million gods!
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 8:26pm On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Another IDIOTIC response. How is the original question settled? Where and when did you accept my answer that "since God is good there has to counterbalancing evil to produce good/evil, just as you have north/south, up/down, etc!"?? If you accepted the answer you'd have said so and matlybe elaborated on it - instead all you've been doing is screaming assertion and evidence and asking me which of 4 million gods!
As a grade A specialist in idiotic responses, its no suprise every response looks to you like what you regurgitate steadily from your mouth 🤣. As for your selective amnesia, up your brain cells for more memory storage, as far as i know, you've been told.😌
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 8:35pm On Mar 12, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
"ran away" 👀
I had better things to do at that moment.

I'm sure you remembered the God-debate all through the New Year.

You can go check it out!
And to the gentleman that jumped in without proper footing, I don't take this as an achievement. It's you rather that is projecting your mindset to me!

God forbid I should hold as a trophy the fact that I schooled atheists
If you have any thing of importance to contribute to the thread, kindly do so.
Yes yes, I'm sure you did. Like i said i honestly don't even know who you are, much less remainder, maybe you could remaind me by linking the thread you destroyed me😃
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 9:47pm On Mar 12, 2025
Lucifyre:
As a grade A specialist in idiotic responses, its no suprise every response looks to you like what you regurgitate steadily from your mouth 🤣. As for your selective amnesia, up your brain cells for more memory storage, as far as i know, you've been told.😌
So you see, you have no sense of INTELLECTUAL debate or discussion because you're a typical NL low IQ - all you know are assertion and evidence!
If someone asked if a blue elephant would be visible in blue light, your response would be "there are no blue elephants! What EVIDENCE supports your ASSERTION there are blue elephants, etc" STUPID!
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 11:52pm On Mar 12, 2025
DaddyCoool:
So you see, you have no sense of INTELLECTUAL debate or discussion because you're a typical NL low IQ - all you know are assertion and evidence!
If someone asked if a blue elephant would be visible in blue light, your response would be "there are no blue elephants! What EVIDENCE supports your ASSERTION there are blue elephants, etc" STUPID!
🥱

You used your high IQ to type this vocab, abi its still autocorrect that corrupted your vocab too🤣
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 11:42am On Mar 13, 2025
Lucifyre:
🥱

You used your high IQ to type this vocab, abi its still autocorrect that corrupted your vocab too🤣
See him, trying to obfuscate with minutiae😁
Genius the point in a forum like NL is to get your point accross NOT perfect grammar - because typing is time-consuming!!! Why should I type "a typical NL low IQ type/person" when I can stop at "low IQ" and still convey same meaning??
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Lucifyre: 5:58pm On Mar 13, 2025
DaddyCoool:
See him, trying to obfuscate with minutiae😁
Genius the point in a forum like NL is to get your point accross NOT perfect grammar - because typing is time-consuming!!! Why should I type "a typical NL low IQ type/person" when I can stop at "low IQ" and still convey same meaning??
🥱
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Sirmwill: 7:33am On Mar 17, 2025
StillDtruth:
In Nigeria we say "you are talking rubbish" as when we are saying that whatever you said is very completely wrong. That is what we generally use it for.

See, someone else said so to me
Go and learn the meaning of rubbish
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Newgoodkk(op): 1:30pm On Mar 17, 2025
Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan?.

This is the Thread Topic , Make your Comments , Don't Force it on anyone to Agree with You .

See as Adults Turned The Thread to Fights , Arguments , Insulting themselves .

Na waoo, Have we forgotten that Our Views and Opinions won't ever be the Same For Gods sake .

On here Someone said Almighty God is to be Worshipped only by the Bloodline of Jacob grin , that there are so Many Dieties Bla Bla BLA , I read and Passed , That is His or Her Opinion , I don't have to argue , It's either I believe, Disbelieve or Ask This Person some Questions Politely , If His response yet doesn't Convince me , I gently Move on without Insulting this Person .

I don't have to Force myself to Believe him , Neither does he have to force Himself on me to believe him and if he does , I Humbly Igonores Him.

That is it .

Let's be Matured Pls.
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by StillDtruth: 2:38pm On Mar 17, 2025
Sirmwill:
Go and learn the meaning of rubbish
See Nigerian pretending to be Oyin, even with this being a Nigerian forum, with Nigerians speaking their Nigerian language exactly how we say call panadol and paracetamol "drugs".

So you need to go an learn the meaning of words in Nigerian language
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Kobojunkie:
Newgoodkk:
➜On here Someone said Almighty God is to be Worshipped only by the Bloodline of Jacob grin , that there are so Many Dieties Bla Bla BLA , I read and Passed , That is His or Her Opinion , I don't have to argue , It's either I believe, Disbelieve or Ask This Person some Questions Politely , If His response yet doesn't Convince me , I gently Move on without Insulting this Person .
YHWH gave Himself the title, "God of Israel." This means those outside of that bloodline that He created —He gave the name "Israel" to the man called Jacob —have no right or access to Him. It is what is in fact written in that compendium of books called the Bible. Refuting the statements written within in turn means not only do you reject the actual contents of the book but you also reject YHWH whose plan, Israel, is as is written in the book. These things are simple! grin
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Truthseeker10: 8:53pm On Mar 17, 2025
Kobojunkie:
YHWH gave Himself the title, "God of Israel." This means those outside of that bloodline that He created —He gave the name "Israel" to the man called Jacob —have no right or access to Him. It is what is in fact written in that compendium of books called the Bible. Refuting the statements written within in turn means not only do you reject the actual contents of the book but you also reject YHWH whose plan, Israel, is as is written in the book. These things are simple! grin
If Jesus told the woman what is in Matthew 15:24 when she asked for Miracle, was Jesus now going against his own words by healing her daughter?

You claimed the Canaanite woman referred to Miracles as breadcrumbs. Can you kindly show us where that is written in the bible?
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Newgoodkk(op): 11:59am On Mar 20, 2025
Truthseeker10:
If Jesus told the woman what is in Matthew 15:24 when she asked for Miracle, was Jesus now going against his own words by healing her daughter?

You claimed the Canaanite woman referred to Miracles as breadcrumbs. Can you kindly show us where that is written in the bible?
Prepare for Serious Argument with Kobo-Junkie grin

Hope You can Tolerate Him/Her ...

Just do and No Insults incase you discover too much Controversies and Non Biblical Comments , Pls . Do not Insults, Just Pass and Ignore .
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Kobojunkie:
Newgoodkk:
➜Prepare for Serious Argument with Kobo-Junkie grin Hope You can Tolerate Him/Her ... Just do and No Insults incase you discover too much Controversies and Non Biblical Comments , Pls . Do not Insults, Just Pass and Ignore .
LOL... the problem with a lot of you is that your ideas of what is written comes, not from what is in fact written but the fables you have gobbled up from the mouths of those you have set as gods over your lives. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
21 Jesus went from there to the area of Tyre and Sidon.
22 A Canaanite woman from that area came out and began shouting, “Lord, Son of David, please help me! My daughter has a demon inside her, and she is suffering very much.”
23 But Jesus did not answer her. So the followers came to him and said, “Tell her to go away. She keeps crying out and will not leave us alone.”
24 Jesus answered, “God sent me only to the lost people of Israel.”
25 Then the woman came over to Jesus and bowed before him. She said, “Lord, help me!”
26 He answered her with this saying: “It is not right to take the children’s bread and give it to the dogs.”
27 The woman said, “Yes, Lord, but even the dogs eat the pieces of food that fall from their master’s table.”
28 Then Jesus answered, “Woman, you have great faith! You will get what you asked for.” And right then the woman’s daughter was healed. - Matthew 15 vs 21 - 28
Here's a simple quiz for you.

From your above passage, is it your understanding that
⚉ Jesus Christ of Israel eventually gave to the woman — a self-described dog — the children's bread. huh
⚉ Jesus Christ of Israel instead gave the woman the pieces of food that fell from the master's table as she had clarified from her explanation that she was in fact seeking to obtain from Jesus Christ of Israel. huh
⚉ Jesus Christ of Israel prevaricated when He claimed that He was sent by YHWH only to the Lost Sheep of Israel—a response which He gave directly to His followers—, and did Jesus Christ of Israel falsely claim that it was not right to give the children's bread to the dogs. huh
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by ICEWIN: 4:01pm On Mar 20, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
God is Holy this means He is incapable of evil thoughts all His ways are good so when He gave life to creatures He never thought any could be an ingrate as the first creature He made was really friendly and full of appreciation {Proverbs 8:22-31} as happy as God is He decided to create more but this time around He wanted His FIRSTBORN child to be happy too so He empower this son to create all other creatures {Colossians 1:15} God is always happy {1Timothy 1:11} but will working beside His father in creating other creatures make the child happy too?
Well God told His FIRSTBORN child that whatever he is able to create with the support God gives all belongs to this child {Colossians 1:16} so the son jumped into action but something happened along the way the first creatures God's firstborn son created were spirit creatures just like himself so they all respected him as the number one or archangel while he humbly makes all of them feel important telling them all glory and honour belongs to his father who is their father too.
Well one of the first spirit creatures feels he should be in a position better than what he is presently {Isaiah 14:13} God is the only one who knows the right person to give such authority to {Revelations 4:11} and His firstborn son wants to win his father's approval not as the firstborn but earn it in unique way.
So this spirit creature became so envious that he began scheming ways to gain dominance over other creatures that is how evil began and if you carefully watch what has been happening throughout history you will find out that those who wants to rule over others often becomes vicious in all their dealings. John 8:44
The Bible is all about how evil began and how it's going to end only two persons are certain to know these: Almighty God and His only begotten son because it's only these two that knows the beginning of evil as they both created all other creatures among whom a rebel emerged.
That's why both the father and His firstborn son keep saying they know the beginning and the end, the beginning and end of what?
Badness!

May you have peace!
Going by what you wrote,they didn't know the begining and the end.
Why create something evil at first (Jesus didn't know the begining)
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by NasirIbnLaAhad: 6:33pm On Mar 20, 2025
DaddyCoool:
Nope, I simply gave MY logical answer to the question OP asked. Someone with a different viewpoint would simply present them or point out where my view is flawed, NOT moronically screaming assertion and evidence. I said where God is good there has to counterbalancing evil to produce good/evil, just as you have north/south, up/down, etc!
Are you Lady/Excellency or Madam/Excellency?
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by DaddyCoool(f): 10:28pm On Mar 20, 2025
NasirIbnLaAhad:
Are you Lady/Excellency or Madam/Excellency?
I yam what I yam
(It's all about yam!)
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by orisa37: 5:16am On Mar 21, 2025
IT IS OPERATION "DOUBLE CHECK".
Re: Why Did God Create The Devil To Destroy His Plan? by Truthseeker10: 8:07am On Mar 21, 2025
Kobojunkie:
LOL... the problem with a lot of you is that your ideas of what is written comes, not from what is in fact written but the fables you have gobbled up from the mouths of those you have set as gods over your lives. 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Here's a simple quiz for you.

From your above passage, is it your understanding that
⚉ Jesus Christ of Israel eventually gave to the woman — a self-described dog — the children's bread. huh
⚉ Jesus Christ of Israel instead gave the woman the pieces of food that fell from the master's table as she had clarified from her explanation that she was in fact seeking to obtain from Jesus Christ of Israel. huh
⚉ Jesus Christ of Israel prevaricated when He claimed that He was sent by YHWH only to the Lost Sheep of Israel—a response which He gave directly to His followers—, and did Jesus Christ of Israel falsely claim that it was not right to give the children's bread to the dogs. huh
So breadcrumbs is different from bread?😂😂😂
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