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If you can defeat sin you can defeat the devil. Our greatest undoing is when we fall into sin. The devil cannot do anything to you if you are living a sinless life. It is only when you live in sin that the devil can touch you. Sin brings affliction in your life. In mark 2:3-11 the Bible told us of a sick with palsy. Jesus was preaching in a house and there was so much people. Four men want to bring this man with palsy to Jesus, they couldn't pass through because of the crowd. So they had take the man through the roof. They open the roof and let the man down. We hen Jesus saw the man, He told that your sin are forgiven. This man was sick but the Lord Jesus was forgiving him his sin. Why, because it was sin that bring the sickness of palsy to his life. That is what sin does. It open door for sick and diseases to come into our lives. Jesus had to first forgive him his so that he can be made whole from the sickness of palsy. If the Lord Jesus didn't first forgive him his sin, another greater diseases greater that palsy will come in. It is our sins that open doors to sickness and diseases not the devil. Every affliction you are passing through is because of your sin. You are suffering from pains in your body, repent of your sins today. Ask the Lord Jesus to forgive your sins. The Lord Jesus said in mark 2:10, "but that ye may know that the son of man has power on earth to forgive sin". Jesus-son of man has power to forgive your sins. Cry to Him today and He will forgive your sins and heal of every affliction you are passing through.

Poverty is vanity. Make money and know peace.

delkuf:
It is only when you live in sin that the devil can touch you.

Study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses you will say NO.
Was Job living in sin before Satan touched him? Job 2:6-8
When you refuse to learn but insist that you want to teach this is the result!

MaxInDHouse:
Study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses you will say NO.
Was Job living in sin before Satan touched him? Job 2:6-8
When you refuse to learn but insist that you want to teach this is the result!

the case of job was an exception. It was God allowing the devil to tempt Job. And I can never study with your occultic group

delkuf:
the case of job was an exception. It was God allowing the devil to tempt Job. And I can never study with your occultic group

So if God allowed Satan to touch Job what makes you feel you're different?
Or are you more righteous than Job?

Continue and die in your ignorance nah!

LOVEGINO:
Poverty is vanity. Make money and know peace.

See foolishness.

Riches give peace yet Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, Regina Daniels, DJ Cuppy, P.Diddy etc were still misery full.

MaxInDHouse:
Study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses you will say NO.
Was Job living in sin before Satan touched him? Job 2:6-8
When you refuse to learn but insist that you want to teach this is the result!

He lived dodging and overcoming sin which is what the Op is saying.

MaxInDHouse:
So if God allowed Satan to touch Job what makes you feel you're different?
Or are you more righteous than Job?

Continue and die in your ignorance nah!

so you mean God will be having discussion with the devil like the case of job about who to touch and who not to touch. Is that not stupidity. My brother if you live in sin you are opening your live to sickness and affliction.

delkuf:
so you mean God will be having discussion with the devil like the case of job about who to touch and who not to touch. Is that not stupidity. My brother if you live in sin you are opening your live to sickness and affliction.

Ọmọ the case of Job shows that all faithful people will be TESTED by Satan {2Timothy 3:12} and it will surely affect their bodies the only three individuals Satan can't touch are Adam , Eve and Jesus.

WHY?

Because they were perfect unlike Adam's descendants who have inherited sin already {Romans 3:23; 5:12} so Satan has every right to touch whoever he wants to tempt you can only add to your problem when you live in sin but whether you live in sin or not Satan has every right to touch your body o!

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ the case of Job shows that all faithful people will be TESTED by Satan {2Timothy 3:12} and it will surely affect their bodies the only three individuals Satan can't touch are Adam , Eve and Jesus.

WHY?

Because they were perfect unlike Adam's descendants who have inherited sin already {Romans 3:23; 5:12} so Satan has every right to touch whoever he wants to tempt you can only add to your problem when you live in sin but whether you live in sin or not Satan has every right to touch your body o!

Are you saying that every believers will tested/tempted by the devil and that testing will bring sickness and diseases to your life. Is this what your are saying.

StillDtruth:
See foolishness.

Riches give peace yet Heath Ledger, Michael Jackson, Regina Daniels, DJ Cuppy, P.Diddy etc were still misery full.

my brother make money and know peace.

delkuf:
Are you saying that every believers will tested/tempted by the devil and that testing will bring sickness and diseases to your life. Is this what your are saying.

Did Satan started by inflicting sickness on Job?
Come on think nah.
Satan later touched Job when he realized Job's faith can't be conquered by destroying his possessions.
So Satan uses different attempts on people after studying them closely.
He believes Job was faithful because of his wealth and easy life.

LOVEGINO:
my brother make money and know peace.

So peace comes from wealth shey?

Well if that's what Mammon {Matthew 6:24} promised you know today that it's a lie! Ecclesiastes 5:12

MaxInDHouse:
So peace comes from wealth shey?

Well if that's what Mammon {Matthew 6:24} promised you know today that it's a lie!

no let poverty blindfold you abeg.

LOVEGINO:
my brother make money and know peace.

Nna, Jesus is my Peace and I have it yafu yafu.

So stop speaking foolishness. Those people I mentioned had over money yet they were not happy and they never had peace

LOVEGINO:
no let poverty blindfold you abeg.

Do you think every believer on Nairaland is poor?
Guy go and see a psychiatrist fast it's like your brain is not functioning properly.
First of all riches doesn't guarantee peace neither does having little makes one miserable it's the joy in your heart that gives peace not what you have!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think every believer on Nairaland is poor?
Guy go and see a psychiatrist fast it's like your brain is not functioning properly.
First of all riches doesn't guarantee peace neither does having little makes one miserable it's the joy in your heart that gives peace not what you have!

believer kee u there!

LOVEGINO:
believer kee u there!

I thought you have peace or you never get enough money to buy peace?

MaxInDHouse:
Did Satan started by inflicting sickness on Job?
Come on think nah.
Satan later touched Job when he realized Job's faith can't be conquered by destroying his possessions.
So Satan uses different attempts on people after studying them closely.
He believes Job was faithful because of his wealth and easy life.

You haven't answered my question. Did you say that devil will touch us and that will bring sickness and diseases into our lives

delkuf:
You haven't answered my question. Did you say that devil will touch us and that will bring sickness and diseases into our lives.

I have answered but you don't want the truth.
Job's case is a warning for all faithful people:


As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy. ‭James 5:11 NIV‬



For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope. ‭Romans 15:4 NIV‬


Only perfect individuals like Adam, Eve and Jesus can't be touched by Satan yet he will use others around them to inflict pain on them! John 19:2

MaxInDHouse:
I have answered but you don't want the truth.
Job's case is a warning for all faithful people:


As you know, we count as blessed those who have persevered. You have heard of Job’s perseverance and have seen what the Lord finally brought about. The Lord is full of compassion and mercy. ‭James 5:11 NIV‬



For everything that was written in the past was written to teach us, so that through the endurance taught in the Scriptures and the encouragement they provide we might have hope. ‭Romans 15:4 NIV‬


Only perfect individuals like Adam, Eve and Jesus can't be touched by Satan yet he will use others around them to inflict pain on them! John 19:2

but you said through the testing of the devil it will bring sickness and diseases to our lives. This is the what you are saying.

delkuf:
but you said through the testing of the devil it will bring sickness and diseases to our lives. This is the what you are saying.

What i'm saying is Satan's attack could be anything a believer has that seems like a source of joy. So if it's health that's giving a believer the joy to continue praising God Satan will surely use that as a means to tempt a believer.

MaxInDHouse:
Study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses you will say NO.
Was Job living in sin before Satan touched him? Job 2:6-8
When you refuse to learn but insist that you want to teach this is the result!

Job’s suffering was a test allowed by God and initiated by Satan, not a punishment for sin. That much is clear. But you engaging in unnecessary arguments only shifts focus away from the truth stated by Op.

One does not need to belong to Jehoval witness to understand Scripture—the message is plain to those who seek truth with an open heart.

Psalm 107:17 says: "Fools, because of their transgression, and because of their iniquities, were afflicted."

While not all affliction comes from personal sin, sin is still the root of all suffering in the world.

Opposing this truth just to appear knowledgeable is missing the real message. The focus should always remain on what Scripture actually teaches.

Thankgod89:
Opposing this truth just to appear knowledgeable is missing the real message. The focus should always remain on what Scripture actually teaches.

Does the scriptures teaches that fellow believers can fight against one another due to racial issues?

MaxInDHouse:
What i'm saying is Satan's attack could be anything a believer has that seems like a source of joy. So if it's health that's giving a believer the joy to continue praising God Satan will surely use that as a means to tempt a believer.

you are so wrong Max. Because God allow the devil tempt, doesn't mean he has right to touch any believe. How do you guys come to this conclusion. The devil has no right to touch me. It is when I fall into sin, I am left open he can touch me. But as long as I do not sin, Satan cannot come hear me. That is why jw are allowed to drink alcohol and leave a sin sinful life because they believe that since God allow the devil touch job, he will touch anyone including believers. So believers should live sinfully because the devil would touch them. Jw are devilish and from them the Pit of hell

delkuf:
you are so wrong Max. Because God allow the devil tempt, doesn't mean he has right to touch any believe. How do you guys come to this conclusion. The devil has no right to touch me. It is when I fall into sin, I am left open he can touch me. But as long as I do not sin, Satan cannot come hear me. That is why jw are allowed to drink alcohol and leave a sin sinful life because they believe that since God allow the devil touch job, he will touch anyone including believers. So believers should live sinfully because the devil would touch them. Jw are devilish and from them the Pit of hell

Was Job living a sinful life?

MaxInDHouse:
Was Job living a sinful life?

job wasn't a sinner. But God allow the devil tempt him. This doesn't implies to us all

MaxInDHouse:
Does the scriptures teaches that fellow believers can fight against one another due to racial issues?

Please adhere to correction; your question is insignificant to the subject matter.

delkuf:
job wasn't a sinner. But God allow the devil tempt him. This doesn't implies to us all.

So you're WRONG i never said Satan will use the same tactic on all believers but we should be prepared for eventualities of any kind.
When Jesus said:

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. ‭Matthew 10:28


He meant Satan and his agents.


Because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Corinthians 12:7 NIV‬


So all sinners can be reached by Satan but once they die he has no power over their resurrection because that's certain for whoever dies in Christ Jesus! John 11:25

Thankgod89:
Please adhere to correction; your question is insignificant to the subject matter.

Guy this is not for you rather it's for him who quoted me when i never had any discussion with him. So i can choose to pick any topic since he wants to talk with me!

MaxInDHouse:
So you're WRONG i never said Satan will use the same tactic on all believers but we should be prepared for eventualities of any kind.
When Jesus said:

Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell. ‭Matthew 10:28


He meant Satan and his agents.


Because of these surpassingly great revelations. Therefore, in order to keep me from becoming conceited, I was given a thorn in my flesh, a messenger of Satan, to torment me. Corinthians 12:7 NIV‬


So all sinners can be reached by Satan but once they die he has no power over their resurrection because that's certain for whoever dies in Christ Jesus! John 11:25

like you said all sinners but we are talking of believers here. The devil can touch or do whatever he likes to the sinners but the devil cannot come here us that believes in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is only when we fall into sin he can touch us. That is why as a believers sin is our greatest enemy. We should be prepared more against sin than anything or anyone else

delkuf:
like you said all sinners but we are talking of believers here. The devil can touch or do whatever he likes to the sinners but the devil cannot come here us that believes in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is only when we fall into sin he can touch us. That is why as a believers sin is our greatest enemy. We should be prepared more against sin than anything or anyone else

Surely you don't read quoted scriptures.

Paul said:

And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. 2Corinthians 12:7 KJV

Is Paul not a believer in Christ when he wrote letters to the Christian congregations?