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Gabrielshow24:
What for?
By their fruits you shall know them🤨

Just so that Jehovah can stop the spread and the Numbers being claimed by the Muslims nah.

TenQ:
So, logically speaking
1. Can we agree that Any Being that is Physical must have a SHAPE?

2. Does Allah then have a shape?


Let me help you with just one as you are a liar and never converted from Christianity!



Evidences
1. Did Allah create Adam in his own Image?
Yes! Adams face looked like that of Allah and he is probably 60 cubits tall.

Is Adam physical or metaphysical?

Mishkat al-Masabih 3525
He reported God’s Messenger as saying, “When any of you fights he must avoid the face, for God created Adam in His own image.”

Sahih Muslim 2612 e
This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Abu Huraira and in the hadith transmitted on the authority of Ibn Hatim Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) is reported to have said:
When any one of you fights with his brother, he should avoid his face for Allah created Adam in His own image.

Sahih Muslim 2841
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) as saying: Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day.

Note that the resemblance of Adam to Allah was described in terms of Adam's FACE and Adam's HEIGHT


2. Does Allah have a Shape?
Yes! He would appear to you Muslims in another shape after resurrection.


Sahih al-Bukhari 7439
Then the Almighty will come to them in a shape other than the one which they saw the first time, [/b]and He will say, 'I am your Lord,' and they will say, 'You are not our Lord.' And none will speak: to Him then but the Prophets, and then it will be said to them, [b]'Do you know any sign by which you can recognize Him?' They will say. 'The Shin,' and so Allah will then uncover His Shin whereupon every believer will prostrate before Him and there will remain those who used to prostrate before Him just for showing off and for gaining good reputation.


Allah even has a Shin by which you will identify him and he will uncover it for you .

Sahih al-Bukhari 6573
Allah will come to them in a shape other than they know and will say, 'I am your Lord.' They will say, 'We seek refuge with Allah from you. This is our place; (we will not follow you) till our Lord comes to us, and when our Lord comes to us, we will recognize Him. Then Allah will come to then in a shape they know and will say, "I am your Lord.' They will say, '(No doubt) You are our Lord,' and they will follow Him. Then a bridge will be laid over the (Hell) Fire."

3. Does Allah have a form?
Yes! Allah has two right hands
Sunan an-Nasa'i 5379
It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin 'Amr bin Al-'As that:
The Prophet [SAW] said: "Those who are just and fair will be with Allah, Most High, on thrones of light, at the right hand of the Most Merciful, those who are just in their rulings and in their dealings with their families and those of whom they are in charge." Muhammad (one of the narrators) said in his Hadith: "And both of His hands are right hands."




So, tell me if Allah doesn't have a shape. If he has a shape then he is physical!

With regards to point number 1

Some scholars understand the pronoun “His” to refer to Allah, suggesting that Adam was created in the image of Allah. However, this does not imply any physical resemblance, as Islam emphasizes that Allah is unique and incomparable to His creation. This interpretation highlights the special status and attributes granted to Adam, such as knowledge, will, and mercy and the ability to have choice.

With regards to Allah revealing His Shin: Scholars accept the term “Shin” as it appears, affirming it as one of Allah’s attributes without delving into its exact nature or likening it to human characteristics. This approach emphasizes that Allah’s attributes are beyond human comprehension and should not be compared to those of His creation. Yes, Allah will reward His faithful servant on the day of judgement by revealing Himself to His creation!

If those are what you have as proof that Islam is false, then you have nothing bro

Lukuluku69:
Just so that Jehovah can stop the spread and the Numbers being claimed by the Muslims nah.

Our God is a loving God not a tyrannical figure 😂😂😂.

He didn't send his son to kill people of other faiths🙃but instead to help the world resist "evil".

If you like marry fifteen, that's your business when it's time for judgement we will see who will stand on your behalf 🤨

Oh🤔, we already know! The black stone 😂😂😂

TenQ:
The true God doesn't answer this kind of prayer!

How else am I supposed to prove that I(not just me only, even my elder sister too) was Christian. I’ve shown readiness to lay curse upon myself if I am telling lies!
So let’s leave it to God then

ALISMILE:
With regards to point number 1

Some scholars understand the pronoun “His” to refer to Allah, suggesting that Adam was created in the image of Allah. However, this does not imply any physical resemblance, as Islam emphasizes that Allah is unique and incomparable to His creation. This interpretation highlights the special status and attributes granted to Adam, such as knowledge, will, and mercy and the ability to have choice.

With regards to Allah revealing His Shin: Scholars accept the term “Shin” as it appears, affirming it as one of Allah’s attributes without delving into its exact nature or likening it to human characteristics. This approach emphasizes that Allah’s attributes are beyond human comprehension and should not be compared to those of His creation. Yes, Allah will reward His faithful servant on the day of judgement by revealing Himself to His creation!

If those are what you have as proof that Islam is false, then you have nothing bro

All, I can see from this write up is will ful ignorance 🤤.

You were almost there but you fell short🤧.

Think again on what you wrote and how it answers the op's question 🤨

Gabrielshow24:
Our God is a loving God not a tyrannical figure 😂😂😂.

He didn't send his son to kill people of other faiths🙃but instead to help the world resist "evil".

If you like marry fifteen, that's your business when it's time for judgement we will see who will stand on your behalf 🤨

Oh🤔, we already know! The black stone 😂😂😂

Dumbtard, go and read Your Bible.

Numbers Chapters 31 then come back and tell me about your loving "God".

Lukuluku69:
Dumbtard, go and read Your Bible.

Numbers Chapters 31 then come back and tell me about your loving "God".

Our God as seen in new testament is a loving God but that doesn't diminish his propensity for justice!

The chapter is self explanatory 🤨.
Is that evidence to discredit his loving nature?😂
That's rather pathetic 😉.
You want to compare this with your Quran😂😂😂.

Even the blind can see what religion is indeed a "religion of peace" 😂😂😉.

Your illiterate prophet patented what he knows nothing of 🤧.

Religion of peace indeed🥲.
Satan will surely be proud🫡

Gabrielshow24:
Our God has seen in new testament is a loving God but that doesn't diminish his propensity for justice!

The chapter is self explanatory 🤨.
Is that evidence to discredit his loving nature?😂
That's rather pathetic 😉.
You want to compare this with your Quran😂😂😂.

Even the blind can see what religion is indeed a "religion of peace" 😂😂😉.

Your illiterate prophet patented what he knows nothing of 🤧.

Religion of peace indeed🥲.
Satan will surely be proud🫡

Lol

You mean Jehovah after morphing into Jesus repented from His Evil and warring Ways as depicted in the Old Testament?

You guys are silly it is beyond belief.

So, Jehovah was Blood thirsty towards the Midianites but suddenly want to show Mercy now?

Where was his much vaunted Love then?

Lukuluku69:
Lol

You mean Jehovah after morphing into Jesus repented from His Evil and warring Ways as depicted in the Old Testament?

You guys are silly it is beyond belief.

So, Jehovah was Blood thirsty towards the Midianites but suddenly want to show Mercy now?

Where was his much vaunted Love then?

It was there on his children 🤣

That's something you can't relate with!!!

After all you are nothing but a slave!!!

ALISMILE:
Reading your comment, three things are sure: Maybe you didn’t it
Maybe you don’t know how to read
Maybe you read but couldn’t comprehend what you read!

None of the above is is a fault of mine, so I will let you pass

Oga....the recipe for worldwide peace by the Koran is not working na. So if Christians are entering Muslims territory by force according to you, what is the korans's solution to that?

Gabrielshow24:
It was there on his children 🤣

That's something you can't relate with!!!

After all you are nothing but a slave!!!

Dumbtard the same children your Jehovah CURSED ENDLESSLY and keep rejecting His supposedly begotten son?

You guys are silly it is beyond belief Wallah.

Lukuluku69:
Dumbtard the same children your Jehovah CURSED ENDLESSLY and keep rejecting His supposedly begotten son?

You guys are silly it is beyond belief Wallah.

What does the Koran say on how our world can be peaceful?

Lukuluku69:
Dumbtard the same children your Jehovah CURSED ENDLESSLY and keep rejecting His supposedly begotten son?

You guys are silly it is beyond belief Wallah.

Spare the rod and spoil the child👀!!!

After all, you don't know what it means to be a child🤧!!!

Maybe when your Allah is a Father, you will better understand a Father's love🤤!!!

Truthseeker10:
Oga....the recipe for worldwide peace by the Koran is not working na. So if Christians are entering Muslims territory by force according to you, what is the korans's solution to that?

If I may ask, what is the Recipe for Worldwide Peace according to the Scripture you believed in.

I am ready to learn, unlearn and relearn stuff.

ALISMILE:
How else am I supposed to prove that I(not just me only, even my elder sister too) was Christian. I’ve shown readiness to lay curse upon myself if I am telling lies!
So let’s leave it to God then

No problem.
Jesus told us not to swear by anything.


Mat 5:34-37:
"But I say to you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil."


I will take you by your words then

Gabrielshow24:
Spare the rod and spoil the child👀!!!

After all, you don't know what it means to be a child🤧!!!

Maybe when your Allah is a Father, you will better understand a Father's love🤤!!!

Allah is not my Father but my Creator.

So, you agreed that your Jehovah CURSED His Children?

Glad you got that.

So, the Loving Jehovah can curse too. He can kill too. He went to War.

Glad that you know.

TenQ:
No problem.
Jesus told us not to swear by anything.


Mat 5:34-37:
"But I say to you, Swear not at all; neither by heaven; for it is God's throne: Nor by the earth; for it is his footstool: neither by Jerusalem; for it is the city of the great King. Neither shall you swear by your head, because you can not make one hair white or black. But let your communication be, Yes, yes; No, no: for whatever is more than these comes of evil."


I will take you by your words then

Dumbo, have you Dolts not been Swearing? When you are in Courts? Did he not tell you not to sue anyone and that if someone want your Coat, you can add your Boxers too?

Do you ever follow his words?

Truthseeker10:
What does the Koran say on how our world can be peaceful?

My Understanding of the Word Peace for the whole World is actually unattainable. The World have warred Thousands of Years before the Arabian Prophet.

A Research even at Kindergarten Level will tell you that.

World Peace can be achieved if we All respect each other, less Greed and Greedy beings in the world.

Lukuluku69:
Allah is not my Father but my Creator.

So, you agreed that your Jehovah CURSED His Children?

Glad you got that.

So, the Loving Jehovah can curse too. He can kill too. He went to War.

Glad that you know.

Like I said, spare the rod and spoil the child.

Your straw man fallacy won't help you.
Every instance of your supposed "curse" was for the sake of judgement!!!

You just validate my point more.
Spare the rod and spare the child!!!!

Awnn😊, you wish to be God's son but you can't.
You are just a bootlegger lucky to even tag along in this journey.
You bloody slave, find somewhere to recluse to🤣🤣🤣

Lukuluku69:
My Understanding of the Word Peace for the whole World is actually unattainable. The World have warred Thousands of Years before the Arabian Prophet.

A Research even at Kindergarten Level will tell you that.

World Peace can be achieved if we All respect each other, less Greed and Greedy beings in the world.

Respect each other🤣🤣🤣.

The same respect not accorded to the black Muslims whose images are in striking resemblance to that of Satan🤣🤣🤣

Your "Peace" is an illusion, even amidst yourselves you can never achieve peace 🤣🤣🤣!!!

ALISMILE:
With regards to point number 1

Some scholars understand the pronoun “His” to refer to Allah, suggesting that Adam was created in the image of Allah. However, this does not imply any physical resemblance, as Islam emphasizes that Allah is unique and incomparable to His creation. This interpretation highlights the special status and attributes granted to Adam, such as knowledge, will, and mercy and the ability to have choice.

The problem is that your prophet made reference to Adam's HEIGHT and specifically FACE as reference to the image of Allah!

ALISMILE:
With regards to Allah revealing His Shin: Scholars accept the term “Shin” as it appears, affirming it as one of Allah’s attributes without delving into its exact nature or likening it to human characteristics. This approach emphasizes that Allah’s attributes are beyond human comprehension and should not be compared to those of His creation. Yes, Allah will reward His faithful servant on the day of judgement by revealing Himself to His creation!

If those are what you have as proof that Islam is false, then you have nothing bro

1. You haven't LOGICALLY proved anything to counter my arguments.
2. What is the IMAGE of Allah in Adam referred to by Mohammed?. As Christians, the Image of God is His Spirit in us as a Trinity.

Is Hell fire a real physical place or a metaphorical place?

Sahih al-Bukhari 4848
Narrated Anas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say: "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'"

If Hell fire is physical, then Allah's foot must be physical

Sahih Muslim 2848 a
Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said that the Hell would continue to say: Is there anything more, until Allah, the Exalted and High, would place His foot therein and that would say: Enough, enough, by Your Honour, and some parts of it would draw close to the other.

Can you use the logical Islam to solve this logical problem?


Allah came to even touch Mohammed's at the shoulder blade with his hands AND Mohammed felt it's coolness. Is it a spiritual hand?

Logically speaking, Do you agree that whatever is cool has the capacity to absorb heat energy?


Mishkat al-Masabih 725
‘Abd ar-Rahman b. ‘A’ish reported God’s Messenger as saying:
I saw my Lord in the most beautiful form, and He said, "What do the angels near My presence dispute about?" I replied," Thou knowest best.” Then He placed the palm of His hand between my shoulder-blades [color=red] and[color] I felt the coolness of it between my nipples![/b] Then I knew what was in the heavens and the earth. And he recited, "Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and it was so that he might have certainty (Al-Qur’an; 6:75).’’


Can you tell me the physics behind feeling cool when touched by an object?



So can you see that Allah is physical!?

Lukuluku69:
Your "God" is EVERYTHING ko?

That means your "God" is also Satan, "He" is the Poo from your rear end also?

You are simply IRREDEEMABLE.

Tell me!

What are the names of the Three Daughters of Hubal?

Have you even ever bothered to know?

Gabrielshow24:
Like I said, spare the rod and spoil the child.

Your straw man fallacy won't help you.
Every instance of your supposed "curse" was for the sake of judgement!!!

You just validate my point more.
Spare the rod and spare the child!!!!

Awnn😊, you wish to be God's son but you can't.
You are just a bootlegger lucky to even tag along in this journey.
You bloody slave, find somewhere to recluse to🤣🤣🤣

Can a Loving Father also Curse?

According to The Bible Jehovah blesses His Children and also Curse them. He had them fall by the sword on a number of occasion.

The same Children of Jehovah rejected Jehovah in form of his other child in Jesus who is actually Jehovah in human body.

Lol

I am been in a Convo with a Dumbtard.

It happens sometimes.

TenQ:
Tell me!

What are the names of the Three Daughters of Hubal?

Have you even ever bothered to know?

Go ahead and spew your usual.

That your God is EVERYTHING is still making me go all 32.

So, your God can also be wee-wee that we spurts out?

TenQ:
The problem is that your prophet made reference to Adam's HEIGHT and specifically FACE as reference to the image of Allah!




1. You haven't LOGICALLY proved anything to counter my arguments.
2. What is the IMAGE of Allah in Adam referred to by Mohammed?. As Christians, the Image of God is His Spirit in us as a Trinity.

Is Hell fire a real physical place or a metaphorical place?

Sahih al-Bukhari 4848
Narrated Anas: The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "The people will be thrown into the (Hell) Fire and it will say: "Are there any more (to come)?' (50.30) till Allah puts His Foot over it and it will say, 'Qati! Qati! (Enough Enough!)'"

If Hell fire is physical, then Allah's foot must be physical

Sahih Muslim 2848 a
Anas b. Malik reported that Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) said that the Hell would continue to say: Is there anything more, until Allah, the Exalted and High, would place His foot therein and that would say: Enough, enough, by Your Honour, and some parts of it would draw close to the other.

Can you use the logical Islam to solve this logical problem?


Allah came to even touch Mohammed's at the shoulder blade with his hands AND Mohammed felt it's coolness. Is it a spiritual hand?

Logically speaking, Do you agree that whatever is cool has the capacity to absorb heat energy?


Mishkat al-Masabih 725
‘Abd ar-Rahman b. ‘A’ish reported God’s Messenger as saying:
I saw my Lord in the most beautiful form, and He said, "What do the angels near My presence dispute about?" I replied," Thou knowest best.” Then He placed the palm of His hand between my shoulder-blades [color=red] and[color] I felt the coolness of it between my nipples![/b] Then I knew what was in the heavens and the earth. And he recited, "Thus did We show Abraham the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and it was so that he might have certainty (Al-Qur’an; 6:75).’’


Can you tell me the physics behind feeling cool when touched by an object?



So can you see that Allah is physical!?

My brother don't stress yourself too much, even they don't know what Allah is🤧.

That is one of the consequences of plagiarizing concepts from other sources without proper understanding.

Most of them just turn the other way as long as it doesn't affect their "monotheistic" depictions of "Allah" they are fine with it😂😂😂but when you apply their methods of criticism of the bible to the Quran, it fails woefully!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Respect each other🤣🤣🤣.

The same respect not accorded to the black Muslims whose images are in striking resemblance to that of Satan🤣🤣🤣

Your "Peace" is an illusion, even amidst yourselves you can never achieve peace 🤣🤣🤣!!!

You are not up to scratch.

The Peace in Islam is the Peace between Allah and His devote Worshipers/Servants.

The World as a whole has never known Peace. Do yourself a favor by researching " "Wars " thru the ages.

People have warred for Thousands of Years. You Dotards saying Islam and Muslims bring wars are simply IRREDEEMABLE RETARDS.

Lukuluku69:
Go ahead and spew your usual.

That your God is EVERYTHING is still making me go all 32.

So, your God can also be wee-wee that we spurts out?

Straw man fallacy at best😂😂😂

You can do better than this😉!!!

If I am not mistaken, your own God is fixed to the roof of creation 😂😂😂😂
And pathetically carried by "🤔six angels or so" 😂😂😂.

Your prophet didn't know sh*t he just plagiarized tales and wrote them down😂!!!

Imagine the sun setting in "murky waters"😂😂😂

Allah the incapable that needs a consort to produce a son😂😂😂 but yet he can say to Isa "be and he was" 🤣🤣🤣

Lukuluku69:
Dumbo, have you Dolts not been Swearing? When you are in Courts? Did he not tell you not to sue anyone and that if someone want your Coat, you can add your Boxers too?

Do you ever follow his words?

No wonder the masquerade behind the Qur'an had made himself a partner with Allah AND worse you blatantly daily commit shirk!

What does Qur'an 48:9-10 say?


Your scholars will tell you lies, so you better check the Arabic before spewing nonsense as usual!

Lukuluku69:
You are not up to scratch.

The Peace in Islam is the Peace between Allah and His devote Worshipers/Servants.

The World as a whole has never known Peace. Do yourself a favor by researching " "Wars " thru the ages.

People have warred for Thousands of Years. You Dotards saying Islam and Muslims bring wars are simply IRREDEEMABLE RETARDS.

But you can't deny that we have an iota of truth!

Everywhere Islam goes, there goes trouble 🤨.
All in the name of this blood thirsty, incapable god called Allah!!! 🤕.

You claim religious tolerance but you are not😂😂😂.
You have such fragile ego that if challenged the proof is in killing the challenger rather than answering the question logically😂😂😂

Gabrielshow24:
My brother don't stress yourself too much, even they don't know what Allah is🤧.

That is one of the consequences of plagiarizing concepts from other sources without proper understanding.

Most of them just turn the other way as long as it doesn't affect their "monotheistic" depictions of "Allah" they are fine with it😂😂😂but when you apply their methods of criticism of the bible to the Quran, it fails woefully!!!

I agree with you.

They want Islam to be TRUE at all cost that they will fabricate Falsehood to defend what is indefensible.

TenQ:
No wonder the masquerade behind the Qur'an had made himself a partner with Allah AND worse you blatantly daily commit shirk!

What does Qur'an 48:9-10 say?


Your scholars will tell you lies, so you better check the Arabic before spewing nonsense as usual!

Dumbo, what is not clear to you in Qur'an 48: 9-10

Lukuluku69:
Go ahead and spew your usual.

That your God is EVERYTHING is still making me go all 32.

So, your God can also be wee-wee that we spurts out?

Are you afraid that I will tell you that Allah is alias of Hubal?