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MaxInDHouse:
How many people in other countries are practicing what your own ancestors told you?


If so then why are people not practicing it?

They are practicing it and keeping the divine laws. They don't need to be members of any group. Just apply the precepts to your life and let it guild you. That is the purpose.

MaxInDHouse:
How many people in other countries are practicing what your own ancestors told you?


If so then why are people not practicing it?

The Jews are not saying one must be practicing Judaism in other to share in the world to come, No. If you are good and you keep the laws of the creator....you will share in it.

sonmvayina:
They are practicing it and keeping the divine laws. They don't need to be members of any group. Just apply the precepts to your life and let it guild you. That is the purpose.

So are you saying they are keeping the laws you listed the other time yet there is trouble everywhere?

sonmvayina:
The Jews are not saying one must be practicing Judaism in other to share in the world to come, No. If you are good and you keep the laws of the creator....you will share in it.

So how come people in those countries you mentioned aren't sharing the laws nah?

RightChannel:
You don't need their names and you should belive they exist. Bible mention their names but never called them Muslims, so why is your own story different from what Muhammad copied from Bible




Bible talks about modestly in dressing, it never encourage dressing half naked as you do in Islam while circumbulating kaaba, you aren't different from idolatrous exposing their body when worshipping their gods






They raised your foundation but never circumbulated the shrine while exposing their bodies, how are they Muslims without fulfilling 5 pillars of islam
Which path of Abraham are you following? Though you are following the path of Ishmael I think you know his story with his criminalities

We read many places where allah refer to himself using OURS, WE, US, etc who are the partners of allah on this regards?

Historically speaking there is no way Abraham could have built the Kaaba!!!

The only supposed evidence he has is in the Quran!!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

Bloody pagans built the Kaaba and attributed it Abraham😂😂😂!!!

The very same thing they condemned the pagans before them for are exactly what they are still doing😂😂😂.

They kiss the black stone
Run between two valleys
Circumbulate the Kaaba etc.

No difference at all, save the change of name😂😂😂
Repackaged idol worship🥲!!!
The very law in Leviticus condemns them - imagine bowing to a meteorite thinking the said stone will rise up on judgement day to plead on their behalf😂😂😂!!!
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Allah suffers from low self esteem that he had to use majestic plurality to address himself😂, he didn't see the vibe in using singular constructs🙃.

Imagine Allah testing the fires of hell by putting his leg inside🥲 —a highly pragmatic God!

Lies, lies and lies.
Islam died with the advent of the internet!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Historically speaking there is no way Abraham could have built the Kaaba!!!

The only supposed evidence he has is in the Quran!!! 🤦🏾‍♂️

Bloody pagans built the Kaaba and attributed it Abraham😂😂😂!!!

The very same thing they condemned the pagans before them for are exactly what they are still doing😂😂😂.

They kiss the black stone
Run between two valleys
Circumbulate the Kaaba etc.

No difference at all, save the change of name😂😂😂
Repackaged idol worship🥲!!!
The very law in Leviticus condemns them - imagine bowing to a meteorite thinking the said stone will rise up on judgement day to plead on their behalf😂😂😂!!!
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Allah suffers from low self esteem that he had to use majestic plurality to address himself😂, he didn't see the vibe in using singular constructs🙃.

Imagine Allah testing the fires of hell by putting his leg inside🥲 —a highly pragmatic God!

Lies, lies and lies.
Islam died with the advent of the internet!!!

Antichristian2 take note

MaxInDHouse:
So how come people in those countries you mentioned aren't sharing the laws nah?

Ode
I said God gave his laws to every body.
Why people are fixated on the Jewish version is what I don't understand yet.
It is the same laws.

Only the Indians ....they concentrate on their vedas. Which is the same information and laws but with Indians stories and characters.

sonmvayina:
Ode
I said God gave his laws to every body.

Please is it given to everybody or ancestors taught their children?

MaxInDHouse:
Please is it given to everybody or ancestors taught their children?

God gave his laws to his first creations who passed it along by word of mouth.
Ezra was literate enough to put it on a scroll.
More than a thousand years prior, there was the code of Hamaruppi etc.

sonmvayina:
God gave his laws to his first creations who passed it along by word of mouth.
Ezra was literate enough to put it on a scroll. More than a thousand years prior, there was the code of Hamaruppi etc.

OK it was passed from mouth to mouth by people who first walked this planet or it's the spirit of God in you that is teaching you?

MaxInDHouse:
OK it was passed from mouth to mouth by people who first walked this planet or it's the spirit of God in you that is teaching you?

The spirit will make you make sense of it.

sonmvayina:
The spirit will make you make sense of it.

So it's the spirit that will help you make sense of what you were told or the spirit will tell you what to do?

MaxInDHouse:
So it's the spirit that will help you make sense of what you were told or the spirit will tell you what to do?

Life is a school.
The first teacher we encounter is our parents, then grand parents....then teachers in school and the environment.
As you parents starts instilling good values by teaching you what's good and bad, your spirit will put it in proper perspective in a way it will become part of you...

sonmvayina:
Life is a school.
The first teacher we encounter is our parents, then grand parents....then teachers in school and the environment.
As you parents starts instilling good values by teaching you what's good and bad, your spirit will put it in proper perspective in a way it will become part of you...

You mean your spirit or God's spirit😂😂😂

omoredia:
Forgiveness of sin is different from assurance of salvation. Salvation is the contract, forgiveness is just one of the benefit of being saved. Thats why man can also Forgive but only Jesus can save our soul from eternal damnation

Are you the resurrected Antichristian?

Antichristian2:
What religion did Jesus practice on earth? Definitely not Christianity! Christianity started after Jesus.
Which God did he worship and pray to?

Those who follow Christ in truth before the Prophethood of Muhammad are Muslims.
Those who follow Moses in truth before the Prophethood of Jesus are Muslims.
Same for Noah and others!

Mr Man stop disturbing us with your recycled gist. All these claim has been thoroughly thrashed in the past here.
U no get shame?

Jesus can't be a Muslim, he called his God FATHER
No born Muslim dare open his mouth to call their Allah Father.

Jesus came to establish the church. Jesus left behind the church. If U a member of his church, then U are a follower of Jesus.
If U are not a member of the church of Jesus, U don't follow Jesus

Antichristian2:
I don't think you understand the question. Let me rephrase it. John came and was calling out people to repent! If they repent won't they be admitted in Paradise when they die? Of cos they will.

And Jesus did forgave someone without dying while on earth!

He promised the criminal paradise without him believing in his death or trinity!

So why the need for the death of Jesus if all these can be achieved without his death?

All forgiveness b4 Jesus was predicated on his death and resurrection.
Without his death, all forgiveness of sin was invalid.

No one went to heaven prior to the death and resurrection of Jesus. They were in a place called Abraham's Bossom.

sonmvayina:
In the Tanakh, when it speaks of salvation, it always from physical danger.
Sin was a breaking of God's commandments. And he has already provided a solution for the problem of sin. It does not involve a human sacrifice. In multiple places, He said he hates human sacrifice and even calls it an abomination.
Where the early church fathers got the idea of a human/god sacrifice from is way over me.

The only god that is known to accept human sacrifice was moloch.
I am beginning to think that he has something to do with Christianity.....

I told in the past what Jesus did is self sacrifice. Where did U see human sacrifice.
Are U dumb or what?

sonmvayina:
Life is a school.
The first teacher we encounter is our parents, then grand parents....then teachers in school and the environment.
As you parents starts instilling good values by teaching you what's good and bad, your spirit will put it in proper perspective in a way it will become part of you...

Do you think armed robbers, hired killers, fraudsters and other evildoers don't have children?

SIRTee15:
All forgiveness b4 Jesus was predicated on his death and resurrection.
Without his death, all forgiveness of sin was invalid.

No one went to heaven prior to the death and resurrection of Jesus. They were in a place called Abraham's Bossom.

So when Jesus told the man "your sins are forgiven" was Jesus telling lies?

What about the adulterous woman and the crucified criminal, which Jesus died to forgive them?

All these theoretical falsehood that became popular after Jesus left the world!

SIRTee15:
Mr Man stop disturbing us with your recycled gist. All these claim has been thoroughly thrashed in the past here.
U no get shame?

Jesus can't be a Muslim, he called his God FATHER
No born Muslim dare open his mouth to call their Allah Father.

Jesus came to establish the church. Jesus left behind the church. If U a member of his church, then U are a follower of Jesus.
If U are not a member of the church of Jesus, U don't follow Jesus

Do people worship their father?
Jesus worshipped the father! He did pray to Him many times!
Jesus made many reference of him doing the will of his father and not his own will!

A slave has no will of his but does the will of his master! A son on the other hand has the will of his and can at times contradict the father!
Jesus said he can of himself do nothing!

What's the name/location of Jesus's church and who were the congregation?

RightChannel:
Antichristian2 take note

Historically there's no evidence any King wanted to kill Jesus or any other baby about 2000 years ago. So the story that an Angel apeared to Joseph to carry Jesus your God run away is false!

RightChannel:
You don't need their names and you should belive they exist. Bible mention their names but never called them Muslims, so why is your own story different from what Muhammad copied from Bible

Yes, All the people mentioned in the genology of Jesus in Luke and Matthew are not all found in the Old testament. Yet you believe they existed. Where do they come from? What is your evidence anything was copied from the Bible? The best copier from the Bible are the Gospel writers and the Biblical Jesus. They just sometimes say "It is written".... before whatever they want to quote. And sometimes they quote wrongly!

Bible talks about modestly in dressing, it never encourage dressing half naked as you do in Islam while circumbulating kaaba, you aren't different from idolatrous exposing their body when worshipping their gods

Show us how Abraham and Ishmael dressed in the Bible? The Bible has no mouth to talk. Who is talking?

They raised your foundation but never circumbulated the shrine while exposing their bodies, how are they Muslims without fulfilling 5 pillars of islam?

I have posted that they did it before! Abraham has his station there.

The Quran mentions that Abraham and Ishmael were commanded to purify the Kaaba for those who perform Tawaf. This is found in Surah Al-Baqarah (2:125)

"And [mention] when We made the House (Kaaba) a place of return for the people and [made] it a sanctuary. And take, O believers, the station of Abraham as a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], 'Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf...'"

This verse implies that the act of Tawaf was established during their time.

The 5 pillars of Islam is not for them. What is for them is to submit to Allah and do whatever He commands while not associating partners with him in worship. Did Abraham worship Jesus or trinity Yahweh?

Which path of Abraham are you following? Though you are following the path of Ishmael I think you know his story with his criminalities

The part of worhsipping one God and one God alone without partners! I don't know who your Ishmael is. Our Ishmael is a Prophet of Allah as well as his younger brother Isaac. There is no Esau/Jacob feud in Islam! No Convenant/unconvenant child in Islam! All those jewish favoritism construct!

We read many places where allah refer to himself using OURS, WE, US, etc who are the partners of allah on this regards?

Allah has said many times He has no partners. Associating partners to Allah is the greatest sin in Islam. So he used that for Himself as His majesty wishes!

MaxInDHouse:
Do you think armed robbers, hired killers, fraudsters and other evildoers don't have children?

They do..
Why

SIRTee15:
I told in the past what Jesus did is self sacrifice. Where did U see human sacrifice.
Are U dumb or what?

People do that everyday, don't they?

But do you go about claiming they died for your sins?
It was not even a self sacrifice, he was arrested and tried and sentenced to death. (According to the story)
How is that a sacrifice?
A sacrifice is only done in a temple the animal is slit in the throat and blood is allowed to flow and the sacrificed burnt. The animal used is always without blemish .

Did any of this happen ??

Gabrielshow24:
You mean your spirit or God's spirit😂😂😂

What's the difference??

Humans are God's spirit dwelling within a body made from Dust.

There is no me or I. We are all one God spirit experiencing life in multiple ways...

sonmvayina:
They do..
Why

Can such people teach children virtue?

MaxInDHouse:
Can such people teach children virtue?

Why not....

sonmvayina:
Why not....

Can you entrust your own child in the hands of an hired killer to TEACH?

MaxInDHouse:
Can you entrust your own child in the hands of an hired killer to TEACH?

If he a good teacher....why not.
What he does in secret is his business.

sonmvayina:
If he a good teacher....why not.
What he does in secret is his business.

So if someone molests children in secret you can trust such a person to teach your child?

Antichristian2:
Yes, All the people mentioned in the genology of Jesus in Luke and Matthew are not all found in the Old testament. Yet you believe they existed. Where do they come from? What is your evidence anything was copied from the Bible? The best copier from the Bible are the Gospel writers and the Biblical Jesus. They just sometimes say "It is written".... before whatever they want to quote. And sometimes they quote wrongly!
!

Even at this time of ramadan you still went further to lie!

Is Abraham, Jacob, Judah, Tamar, Amminadab, not mentioned in Old testament?

Antichristian2:
Show us how Abraham and Ishmael dressed in the Bible? The Bible has no mouth to talk. Who is talking?

!

You mean I should show you the image of their dressing? in Saudi Arabia aside the time and period you do circumbulate kaaba half naked or undressed, did you still go about dressing unclothedness or half naked on normal day?

Antichristian2:
I have posted that they did it before! Abraham has his station there.

The Quran mentions that Abraham and Ishmael were commanded to purify the Kaaba for those who perform Tawaf. This is found in Surah Al-Baqarah (2:125)


"And [mention] when We made the House (Kaaba) a place of return for the people and [made] it a sanctuary. And take, O believers, the station of Abraham as a place of prayer. And We charged Abraham and Ishmael, [saying], 'Purify My House for those who perform Tawaf...'"

This verse implies that the act of Tawaf was established during their time.

The 5 pillars of Islam is not for them. What is for them is to submit to Allah and do whatever He commands while not associating partners with him in worship. Did Abraham worship Jesus or trinity Yahweh?
!

These verses were not directed to Abraham and Ishmael, it says for those who will. You shouldn't have problem comprehending these verses!

Antichristian2:
The part of worhsipping one God and one God alone without partners! I don't know who your Ishmael is. Our Ishmael is a Prophet of Allah as well as his younger brother Isaac. There is no Esau/Jacob feud in Islam! No Convenant/unconvenant child in Islam! All those jewish favoritism construct!
!

Your Ishmael was banished to the desert. Is Biblical God called Gods or you lack singular and plural understanding?

Antichristian2:
Allah has said many times He has no partners. Associating partners to Allah is the greatest sin in Islam. So he used that for Himself as His majesty wishes!

So who are the WE, OURS, US, etc if truly he has no partners?