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jaephoenix:
You claim you're a scientist and you believe the whole world descended from a single man and woman? Whoa!
Science don suffer from many people hand oh

jaephoenix:
Hang on! There is a research on creation? Why don't they just read the damn Bible?

jaephoenix:
I have met many of these theists claiming to be 'scientists' but failing the most basic tests or questions in their claimed respective fields. Folks like Aemmyjah, TenQ, Advocatejare etc and now the latest entrant into their hallowed hall of shame, Gabrielshow24
What religion cannot do, does not exist, truly

Gabrielshow24:
You can write whatsoever floats your boat.
As it is very evident on this thread!
None of you has provided a simple, direct observational proof!!!

It shows to all that you don't even know much about "evolution"!!! —at best copy and paste 😂😂😂

From the fool that seems to suggest that the ancients built cities only to migrate the next day, to the fool that can't seem to answer a simple question without retorting back the said question and to the fool that intentionally turns the blind eye to push his stupid narratives!!

Indeed, you all are wise!!

TenQ:
I don't know what you mean by saying
"I have met many of these theists claiming to be 'scientists' but failing the most basic tests or questions in their claimed respective fields."

1. I have never claimed to be a scientist on Nairaland. I don't discuss my personal life here
2. You don't even know my so-called Field as I don't discuss it on Nairaland.

So, how did I fail your test?

advocatejare:
Jaephoenix you’re frustrated soul and you don’t deserve my attention.

The screenshot below will always be my response to you cos I caught you red handed lying and you couldn’t prove the lie you posted!


Since you have proven to be congenitally foolish evident by the fact that you can't write without using abusive words and you are a pathological liar who claimed that the doctors went on strike because of insecurity while their communique never captures that, you have proven to be morally bankrupt and frustrated in life, for that reason I will never respond to your foolishness anymore. The atheists I've met are morally upright, but you are the direct opposite.
Your journey into atheism is because of the death of your father who after ruining the lives of many people through his alcohol business also suffered premature death but you didn't tell us the cause of his death, you didn't tell us if it was due to complications of long period of alcoholism on his body system but you want to blame God because your father used his own hands to destroy his God-given temple and you want to blame God for that.
If you like continue destroying your own life too and expect to repent later and be waiting for God to undue the useless life you have lived, God will only save you from eternal damnation but your body that you have destroyed with your own hands will not be replaced for you!
Finally, you're a frustrated soul looking for who to pour your frustrations on, but you're wrong, you'll carry your frustrations on your head and I will never give you audience again until you choose to be sensible and learn how to engage in a civil discussion!
Good riddance!

Gabrielshow24:
I wasn't blabbing.
You took a part of the message, in your bid to sound intelligent and show off, and capitalized on it.

I wasn't talking about fossilization!
I have always been talking about macro evolution!!!
I used the instance of " a million years narrative" found in fossilization, which we all know can occur within hours, as a parallel with macro evolution!!!

If you don't know, kindly ask!
Stop jumping like a monkey thereby making wrong conclusions!!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Are you daft?
I subscribe to micro because of verifiable direct observations.
I don't subscribe to macro because for the better part of yesterday you and your colleagues failed to bring forth direct observational proof 👀!!!

No one has done this for the past 6000 years or so.
Even if I were to give you benefit of a doubt, kindly bring one within 2000years!!!

Gabrielshow24:
I believe in science, and I use its principles in my everyday life.

There are some things that have made me conclude in an higher power — God

Which my scientific allusions have failed to provide a meaningful answer to!!!

Gabrielshow24:
Early Scientist were influenced by the bible; they were trying to understand the mind of God!!!

You can kindly do your research 🤔.

jaephoenix:
U said u r a software dev or something like that, remember? In case u don't know(or religion has wiped it off) a scientist is an expert in any field of science. U don't need to be a research scientist to be called a scientist.
You failed ur test when we were talking about softwares. You know the thread I'm talking about

jaephoenix:
1.Look who is talking about making sentence without abusive words. It's evident u r abusive. And oh, when I mention u, I didn’t utter a word of abuse, but here u r with a truckload of them, even abusing my dead father. I wont descend to ur level.

2. Back to the NARD strikes, maybe u need to read these links
https://dailypost.ng/2024/08/23/anambra-doctors-begin-strike-over-kidnapped-colleague/
This was abduction of Dr. Ezeh

https://fij.ng/article/nigerian-doctors-down-tools-embark-on-strike-to-demand-abducted-colleagues-release/
This was Dr. Poppola

There are other instances that aren't on the news. Like my Internal Medicine prof in Unical Prof. Ephraim who was kidnapped
So now I have provided evidence that docs went on strike due to insecurity and kidnapping, I guess u will twist the narrative around now, knowing you.

3. About my dad. Yes he sold alcohol for years. But guess what, he never tasted it. Neither did he smoke or do drugs.

4. And no, my dad's death didn’t make me an atheist. Maybe u r mixing me up with some god haters. There's a difference between the two groups

TenQ:
Check again as I never called myself anything from beginning to the end on the thread.

And probably for the first time, I tell you that I do program using several high level languages. I have some elementary knowledge of assembly language programming (which I learnt for the purpose of hacking softwares). I also do some programming of microcontrollers because I know some electronics which enables me to build both analogue and digital gadgets. I am not an engineer nor did I formally study computer science in any school. But I think I have above average practical experience and knowledge in the field

I am not a novice as you may think with respect to electronics or programming either with low level or high level language. This is why a bunch of you never realise that a software is INVISIBLE within the hardware even though it exists AND it takes another software run device to decipher the information in the hardware of a target system.

The Software inside any Hardware is REAL but not TANGIBLE

You were the one who failed woefully in the Understanding of how a SOFTWARE relates with the HARDWARE in machine.



Finally, IF
An Engineer is not just any expert with Engineering gadgets or devices but one who is certified as such.
AND
An Accountant is not just any expert with balancing and analysing accounts but one who is certified as such
AND
A Medical Doctor is not just any expert with treatment of human medical ailments but one who is certified as such

How then can a Scientist be just any expert with scientific knowledge BUT without a certification as such ?



A little knowledge and humility on your part will help you to see that there even though a SOFTWARE is real and may exist within a computer hardware, there is NO physical method of proving it's existence. Exactly as there seems to be a parallel kind of SOFTWARE (which Christians will call the Soul) that runs in the HARDWARE of a Living Being.

If you can't understand the rudimentary computer, how would you understand far much more complex things.

jaephoenix:
1. So if you say you never told us u r a software expert, how the hell did I know? Am I a clairvoyant? Even if u didn't do software engineering formally, one can get certs for IT courses, after US tech giants employ folks with certs and not degrees. So its still okay to say u r an IT/software person. And I never called u a novice. I have good software/hardware knowledge up to coding levels, even though I'm not a software or computer engineer
2.

Oh yes I remember what was the debate then. It was the definition of 'tangibility' which we gave you but you refused, and I mean REFUSED to take them. A software may be invisible but its tangible.
I remember giving the definition of tangible, which u of course declined even though I got it from Merriam-Webster. Here is the definition again.
Tangible
capable of being appraised at an actual or approximate value.
Is infrared tangible? Yes. Can you see it? No but we can appraise it
Now the question is, can a software be appraised? YES. Therefore its tangible! EoD!
This simple logical appears be too complex for an educated mind.

3. Software can be appraised visually when we see its output. For example a TV. We see the software output when we press the hardware button which is the power button.

advocatejare:
You are a liar and notorious for gaslighting.
You were the one who used insulting words when we were discussing the issued of NARD 7-day warning strike of August 2024.
Here: https://www.nairaland.com/8195839/resident-doctors-begin-nationwide-strike/4#down

You wrote: “ 3. do you have an alternative option apart from your useless god that is as effective as a dead rat Above is my post. I have elucidated the questions there so your idiotic and ignorant mind can look at them, since you say you have answered them (which you didn't)”

Even though I didn’t insult you earlier


Another lie from you, NARD always release communique for the strike they embark on and this particular one was solely because of the kidnapped Dr. Ganiyat and not because of all the general insecurities in the country. I will attach the screenshot of the communique to expose your lies again. Now show us where other insecurities in the country was cited as the reason for going on strike about from Dr Ganiyat’s case!


PREAMBLE
The Nigerian Association of Resident Doctors (NARD) convened an extraordinary national executive council (ENEC) meeting virtually on Sunday, 25th August 2024.
OBSERVATIONS
1. The NEC noted with dismay the continued detention of our member, Dr. Ganiyat Poopola despite the efforts made so far by the security agencies and the Government on her release.

2. The NEC observed the completion of the two-week deadline given for the release of our abducted colleague from the earlier ENEC meeting which held two weeks ago.
RESOLUTIONS
1. The NEC resolves to go on a one-week total nationwide warning strike starting from midnight, 12.00 am Monday 26th August 2024.



He was selling to people what he himself wasn’t consuming? So he knew the harm it could cause and didn’t stop but kept on exposing other people to it? Hmm


You can only deceive yourself, this is what you wrote in your story of why you became an atheist:

“ Jusr before I did my Sponsio Academica, lost my dad.
This man was a vibrant Christian. Left his booming alcohol business to become a Christian and from there his health dwindled.
]Then I started digging. Asked several questions, which was either ignored by my mum or I was told to ask the pastors, who turned out to be clueless. The butt of those questions were these”
https://www.nairaland.com/7942670/why-became-atheist

You didn’t start digging until you lost your dad who because was a Christian you didn’t expect him to die and it was your digging that eventually made you become an atheist

TenQ:
A Question:
Does a corrupted software still exist or it doesn't exist in the computer hardware?

Note:.
A corrupted software may just display "the blue screen of death" on your VDU. There is nothing to display and nothing to see.


Think about it very well
Does a corrupted software exist or it doesn't exist in the computer hardware?

jaephoenix:
Yes, it still exists even though its corrupt. A repair reinstall from a flashdrive can fix it. If the corrupt software is not there what would the flashdrive fix?

jaephoenix:
1. The first screenshot is ur answer to my reply made I made on ur post. So can you point out any insults i made on your person, on that post? You replied my post with insults on my person and my parents. That triggered a chain of insults and then when it got hot u started bawling like a spoilt child about me insulting u when u started it. At least anyone can see how u r a dishonest clown who cries wolf at any turn
If I call Yahweh useless, its between him and i. He should prove that he's useful. Its not up to u a mere mortal to defend him.

This is the link to ur reply
https://www.nairaland.com/post/131697142

2. The NARD strike is for insecurity generally and specifically for the insecurity of docs like Popoola. I have given a screenshot of the communiqué

3. I know u can read. Did you see where I stated that he stopped when he became a Christian? What is wrong with u?
Some people generally don't like alcohol like myself. I drink only socially. Some docs know alcohol and smoking is harmful to health but still do it. Its just addiction. I'm not addicted, same with my dad. Simple

4. Yes I started asking questions but I have been having doubts before then. Some shit they say in church doesn't make sense. My dad's death triggered me to be bolder. Nobody became an atheist by a single action(like my dad's death), it’s a chain of reactions which starts little by little, as one grows from childhood. Many online atheists admit that as kids, sermon they heard and unanswered questions planted little doubts til some events blossomed the doubts.

Gabrielshow24:
Early Scientist were influenced by the bible; they were trying to understand the mind of God!!!

You can kindly do your research 🤔.

jaephoenix:
No they werent. In fact, ancient christianity was against science cos many scientific research/evidence was against the church. They killed many scientists for that. Galileo nearly died for it

jaephoenix:
Do you believe man came from Adam and Eve? This is a simple yes or no. I don't have time for bush whacking oh

Gabrielshow24:
Diversion tactic at best!!!
Kindly provide my direct observational proof. Maybe when you have, we can talk about what I believe or not!!!

jaephoenix:
So lets assume there's no verifiable direct observations on macro evolutions….
Now answer these….
1. Do you believe the Bible stories, yes or no? This is a yes or no question. No heehaws or bush-beating. If yes, why do u, since there is no direct observational proofs?
2. What do you understand as macro evolution? Lets start from here

jaephoenix:
So where in that sentence talked about macro evolution?

jaephoenix:
Stick to the topic, casting insults around wont let u off the hook
Are you saying evolution is a lie? Please need a simple yes or no

jaephoenix:
Lol u wanna dodge?
U said u r a scientist(nobody asked u oh). And u said Christianity influenced sciences. So I wanna confirm if truly christianity influenced science by asking that question

TenQ:
Slow down!

So, how will you know that a corrupt software is inside the hardware of a machine?

jaephoenix:
The output, sir. In Windows, you'll either see a BSOD or GSOD, or sometimes a fatal error prompt which makes the OS to shut down unexpectedly. In all these scenarios, there's always an output which is the message u see in the screen declaring a BSOD etc. In the older windows versions or older BIOS, u will hear beeps during startups and the number of beeps suggests the type of windows startup fatal errors
So all the visual messages, beeps etc suggest something that is appraisable which is the software

jaephoenix:
So lets assume there's no verifiable direct observations on macro evolutions….
Now answer these….
1. Do you believe the Bible stories, yes or no? This is a yes or no question. No heehaws or bush-beating. If yes, why do u, since there is no direct observational proofs?
2. What do you understand as macro evolution? Lets start from here

LordReed:
He doesn’t know the meaning of macro evolution. For someone to say moving from unicellular to multicellular is micro evolution, you know the person is a phoney.

Gabrielshow24:
The example you cited of the aggregation of unicellular organisms is micro.

If you don't know, you don't know!!!
If indeed, a new specie or multicellular organism evolved then it will be a perfect example of macro😂😂😂 but since there's no direct observational proof for macro evolution, you can't help but to say rubbish 🤧!!!

Your first reply was perfect but your foolishness just couldn't help it!!! 😂😂😂

Gabrielshow24:
2. No wonder you don't know that there is no direct observational proof for macro evolution because in the first place you don't know its definition!

Kindly enlighten yourself and stop asking stupid questions

1. This is not related whatsoever to the problem statement 🤨.
It's your low IQ attempt to derail the thread!
If you don't have proof, kindly remain silent!!