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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:32pm On Mar 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
Were they deported for having tattoos or for being in the country illegally?

Show me anyone of them who is a citizen or lawful resident but was deported for just having tattoos
You yourself are in the country legally because a law provided the path for you to get citizenship thus making you legal.
Asylum is a law that allows immigrants to be in the US legally as well.
Until their asylum claim is adjudicated and they lose it, they are here legally, whether your thick skull likes it or not.

At least one of the attorneys of these people claims he was here seeking asylum.
Thus he was here legally.

And let's go further. Whether they are here legally or not we won't know.
The government won't provide the names of the people and won't say why they were removed.
Again, the purpose of due process is to make sure the people being removed are who the government says they are and that they don't have a legal right to be here.

And lastly these people were not deported. Deportation is a legal process.
This was extralegal thus it was extraordinary rendition.

It's so odd that you are arguing this.
WTF is wrong with you?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 11:45pm On Mar 22, 2025
raumdeuter:
Despite all the news and data about churches and child molestation you still go to a church and still take your kids

Why do you keep attending a gathering that you believe is dangerous to you and to your kids?

If you genuinely believe that the church is dangerous you won't allow your kids a mile close
You might not have seen the post I responded to basil. I think going to church has its benefits. Lots of benefits actually that I don’t care to go into details here on this thread. So if I can keep my eye on my kids the whole time, they can get some of those benefits and I can keep them safe as well.

And of course there are other ways of keeping them safer in church like not letting them go for mid week activities where parents are not there. No Overnight youth church camps. No pastors having unfettered access to your kids etc. these are all avenues via which those things can happen under your nose and you won’t be aware.

I don’t think taking this into the ad hominem angle is going to do anything to change the statistics of the abuse coming out from the church community. I’m not making those numbers up. The predatory adults abusing children are. So maybe less focus on me and more on calling them out the way you guys harp on others.

Instead of pretending it’s not unsafe, we can adopt the “no pervert will safe among us” mindset so that the church can truly be the safe space we teach that it is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 12:01am On Mar 23, 2025
IjeBos:
Tired of winning yet?
Some of the damage Trump has done the US is irreversible.
I was rather surprised when dump announced this kill switch. I expect they'd always had one, but its not exactly a selling point with him in the White House making enemies of friends.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:01am On Mar 23, 2025
IjeBos:
You yourself are in the country legally because a law provided the path for you to get citizenship thus making you legal.
Asylum is a law that allows immigrants to be in the US legally as well.
Until their asylum claim is adjudicated and they lose it, they are here legally, whether your thick skull likes it or not.

At least one of the attorneys of these people claims he was here seeking asylum.
Thus he was here legally.

And let's go further. Whether they are here legally or not we won't know.
The government won't provide the names of the people and won't say why they were removed.
Again, the purpose of due process is to make sure the people being removed are who the government says they are and that they don't have a legal right to be here.

And lastly these people were not deported. Deportation is a legal process.
This was extralegal thus it was extraordinary rendition.

It's so odd that you are arguing this.
WTF is wrong with you?
We all know you are a morron

Were these people detained because of tattoos? If it's simply tattoos then Eminem and Lil Wayne would be detained as well

It's stupid to claim people were detained because of tattoos when there are millions of people with tattoos in this country moving freely

These people were surely not detained because they were claiming asylum as we have millions of pending asylum cases in the country and they are not detained
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:03am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
You might not have seen the post I responded to basil. I think going to church has its benefits. Lots of benefits actually that I don’t care to go into details here on this thread. So if I can keep my eye on my kids the whole time, they can get some of those benefits and I can keep them safe as well.

And of course there are other ways of keeping them safer in church like not letting them go for mid week activities where parents are not there. No Overnight youth church camps. No pastors having unfettered access to your kids etc. these are all avenues via which those things can happen under your nose and you won’t be aware.

I don’t think taking this into the ad hominem angle is going to do anything to change the statistics of the abuse coming out from the church community. I’m not making those numbers up. The predatory adults abusing children are. So maybe less focus on me and more on calling them out the way you guys harp on others.

Instead of pretending it’s not unsafe, we can adopt the “no pervert will safe among us” mindset so that the church can truly be the safe space we teach that it is.
There are predators everywhere including the church but claiming there are more predators in churches (conservative dominated environments) than in entertainment industry(liberals dominated) is false
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:07am On Mar 23, 2025
raumdeuter:
There are predators everywhere including the church but claiming there are more predators in churches (conservative dominated environments) than in entertainment industry(liberals dominated) is false
So where’s your outrage for the predators in the church?

We saw how you guys made a political movement of protecting the children from drag queens who statistically are not abusing children like church people are doing.

What was your selective outrage based on then?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:09am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
So where’s your outrage for the predators in the church?
When did the topic of church molesters come up that I should show outrage?

Should I conversely ask you where is your outrage for entertainment industry molesters even though we haven't discussed it here

No one is forcing you to keep going to church, you go because you think there is some benefit to you and your family

Any church leader or member who molests any child should be dealt with by law like any member of the public which can extend to life imprisonment, but I won't peddle falsehood and equate it to what goes on in the liberal dominated entertainment industry
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:16am On Mar 23, 2025
raumdeuter:
We all know you are a morron

Were these people detained because of tattoos? If it's simply tattoos then Eminem and Lil Wayne would be detained as well

It's stupid to claim people were detained because of tattoos when there are millions of people with tattoos in this country moving freely

These people were surely not detained because they were claiming asylum as we have millions of pending asylum cases in the country and they are not detained
Why don't you tell me why they were detained and all the evidence that proves your point.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:16am On Mar 23, 2025
raumdeuter:
When did the topic of church molesters come up that I should show outrage?
precisely in this conversation. The topic is here and you’re minimizing

Should I conversely ask you where is your outrage for entertainment industry molesters?
Erm excuse me? Pls just say you don’t know who you are talking with and I’ll be all too happy to show you. I’m nothing if not a walking bag of outrage for any and all child abusers. And that’s why the hypocrisy of the right miffs me. You guys talk so much about protecting the kids but your actions fall flat each time. If any other community had this number of child abuse reports, we would demand they stop existing all together.

Leftist don’t rally behind accused child abusers. They get canceled and quickly too. The kids are not asked why they were there. The moms are not shamed for not keeping a tighter leash on their kids. And we don’t ask what they were wearing. Can’t say the same for y’all though.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:20am On Mar 23, 2025
IjeBos:
Why don't you tell me why they were detained and all the evidence that proves your point.
You tell us or show us that they were detained because of their tattoos
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:20am On Mar 23, 2025
raumdeuter:
Any church leader or member who molests any child should be dealt with by law like any member of the public which can extend to life imprisonment,
And somehow you would still manage to hold the individual who did the crime personally responsible instead of painting the whole community as a community of child abusers. I wonder why you guys can’t find that same courtesy when talking about others. Who by the way have been statistically doing less abusing. 🤔

but I won't peddle falsehood and equate it to what goes on in the liberal dominated entertainment industry
The stats are not on your side here.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:22am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
precisely in this conversation. The topic is here and you’re minimizing

Erm excuse me? Pls just say you don’t know who you are talking with and I’ll be all too happy to show you. I’m nothing if not a walking bag of outrage for any and all child abusers. And that’s why the hypocrisy of the right miffs me. You guys talk so much about protecting the kids but your actions fall flat each time. If any other community had this number of child abuse reports, we would demand they stop existing all together.
The focus of anti child and women abuse then should be lasered on the entertainment industry

There are people who make music openly about women abuse including Eminem who was brought to campaign for the democrats last election

How would a party be against a law that says you cannot teach children under 9yrs about sexuality without parental consent
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 12:24am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
precisely in this conversation. The topic is here and you’re minimizing



Erm excuse me? Pls just say you don’t know who you are talking with and I’ll be all too happy to show you. I’m nothing if not a walking bag of outrage for any and all child abusers. And that’s why the hypocrisy of the right miffs me. You guys talk so much about protecting the kids but your actions fall flat each time. If any other community had this number of child abuse reports, we would demand they stop existing all together.
your average conservative

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11520156/dennis-hastert-child-molestation-explained

Former US House Speaker Dennis “Denny” Hastert has been sentenced to 15 months in federal prison. The actual charge that got him here was structuring currency transactions to evade currency transaction reports — that is, he withdrew cash from his bank accounts in increments of less than $10,000 each, in order to get around laws that mandate banks report transactions of $10,000 and over to the federal government. Hastert pled guilty to one count of structuring in October.

But that’s not what the case was really about. What it was really about was Hastert’s repeated molestation of male students as a teacher and wrestling coach at Yorkville High School in suburban Chicago over 30 years ago. The feds just happened to catch him withdrawing cash improperly to pay as hush money to one of his former victims.

This isn’t merely an allegation. Dennis Hastert, former third-ranking member of the US federal government, admitted in open court to molesting children. “I’m sorry to those I hurt and misled. First I wanted to apologize for the boys I mistreated when I was their coach,” he said. “What I did was wrong and I regret it. They looked to me, and I took advantage of them.”
there is a thread on reddit that links to sex offenses by conservative politicians

and yes it is longer than you can imagine

as for the 36 year old public indecency hand job giving grandma, the less said about her the better
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:29am On Mar 23, 2025
raumdeuter:
You tell us or show us that they were detained because of their tattoos
1.) That is exactly one of the reasons the government says they detained some of these peoples.
I already linked the ICE procedures.

2.) That is not how any of this is supposed to work.
The government is supposed to affirmatively prove why they are detaining you.
And they are supposed to prove it to the courts.
That is the point of due process.
No one has to prove their innocence.

3.)Are you ok?
You seem not to know what you are arguing or even the facts of the case, yet you are arguing it.
You are arguing evil for what purpose?
Your mind is broken.
You've chosen to support evil because that is better than saying the person you supported is wrong?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:33am On Mar 23, 2025
raumdeuter:
The focus of anti child and women abuse then should be lasered on the entertainment industry
thanks for proving my point. Despite the thousands of reports of child abuse from the religious communities , you want the focus to be lasered on the entertainment industry. If that’s not the summary of what I’m saying, I don’t know what is.

There are people who make music openly about women abuse including Eminem who was brought to campaign for the democrats last election
You voted for an actual rapist and woman abuser yet somehow that’s equivalent to an artist who makes adult music performing at a Democrat rally?. You guys really have existed for far too long in this bubble where you think your atrocities are somehow equivalent to others’ not being stellar. It should have been nipped in the bud honestly

How would a party be against a law that says you cannot teach children under 9yrs about sexuality without parental consent
Idk seems to me like teaching sex education is far healthier than rummaging in children’s underwear to see what type of genitals they have. I learned sex education in primary school in Nigeria and my parents didn’t have to provide consent. It was a normal part of education.
What is not normal is being obsessed about what genital.ia kids are walking around with. Who thinks such thoughts?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:34am On Mar 23, 2025
IjeBos:
1.) That is exactly one of the reasons the government says they detained some of these peoples.
I already linked the ICE procedures.
source/quote or shut up. you lie too much

IjeBos:
2.) That is not how any of this is supposed to work.
The government is supposed to affirmatively prove why they are detaining you.
And they are supposed to prove it to the courts.
That is the point of due process.
No one has to prove their innocence.

3.)Are you ok?
You seem not to know what you are arguing or even the facts of the case, yet you are arguing it.
You are arguing evil for what purpose?
Your mind is broken.
You've chosen to support evil because that is better than saying the person you supported is wrong?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:38am On Mar 23, 2025
I would say I’m shocked but I’d be lying

GloriousGbola:
your average conservative

https://www.vox.com/2016/4/28/11520156/dennis-hastert-child-molestation-explained

there is a thread on reddit that links to sex offenses by conservative politicians

and yes it is longer than you can imagine

as for the 36 year old public indecency hand job giving grandma, the less said about her the better
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:43am On Mar 23, 2025
bemeruca:
source/quote or shut up. you lie too much
Mr. "I claim I got a visa that took 3 months at the time in 38 days so I can lie everyday about living in the US for the scam I am running", is calling someone else a liar.

Color me shocked.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:44am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
thanks for proving my point. Despite the thousands of reports of child abuse from the religious communities , you want the focus to be lasered on the entertainment industry. If that’s not the summary of what I’m saying, I don’t know what is.


You voted for an actual rapist and woman abuser yet somehow that’s equivalent to an artist who makes adult music performing at a Democrat rally?. You guys really have existed for far too long in this bubble where you think your atrocities are somehow equivalent to others’ not being stellar. It should have been nipped in the bud honestly


Idk seems to me like teaching sex education is far healthier than rummaging in children’s underwear to see what type of genitals they have. I learned sex education in primary school in Nigeria and my parents didn’t have to provide consent. It was a normal part of education.
What is not normal is being obsessed about what genital.ia kids are walking around with. Who thinks such thoughts?
Nothing wrong with the bill.

Republicans at the West Virginia Legislature passed a bill that would allow health care providers to “visually or physically examine a minor child” for the purpose of identifying their “biological sex” without the “consent of the child’s parent, guardian, or custodian.”

Yesterday, the West Virginia House of Delegates approved an amendment from Del. J.B. Akers (R) to allow a child’s “treating health care provider” to examine a child’s genitals without the consent of their parents. The amendment states that only the treating health care provider can perform such examinations without the parents’ consent. The amendment does not mention adults, and therefore presumably they could be forced to undergo such examinations by anyone.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:47am On Mar 23, 2025
IjeBos:
Mr. "I claim I got a visa that took 3 months at the time in 38 days so I can lie everyday about living in the US for the scam I am running", is calling someone else a liar.

Color me shocked.
Okay,

So where is the source for your lies?
He was detained because of tattoos. Where is your source.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:47am On Mar 23, 2025
Pervy.

bemeruca:
Nothing wrong with the bill.

Republicans at the West Virginia Legislature passed a bill that would allow health care providers to “visually or physically examine a minor child” for the purpose of identifying their “biological sex” without the “consent of the child’s parent, guardian, or custodian.”

Yesterday, the West Virginia House of Delegates approved an amendment from Del. J.B. Akers (R) to allow a child’s “treating health care provider” to examine a child’s genitals without the consent of their parents. The amendment states that only the treating health care provider can perform such examinations without the parents’ consent. The amendment does not mention adults, and therefore presumably they could be forced to undergo such examinations by anyone.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:50am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
Pervy.
Do I look like your teacher who taught you sex education in a Nigerian school 😂😂😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:53am On Mar 23, 2025
This doesn’t scream protect the kids.
During and after the 2016 presidential race, among the dozens of women who accused former president Donald Trump of being a sexual predator were several contestants in the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, who reported that he barged into their dressing room while girls as young as 15 were changing. (Trump allegedly told them, “Don’t worry, ladies, I’ve seen it all before.”)

His campaign denied the accusation, but CNN unearthed a 2005 Howard Stern interview where Trump bragged about walking into backstage dressing rooms at the pageants he ran.

The way Republicans set aside the vast array of sexual abuse charges against Trump and lined up behind him has been discussed so many times that there’s no real need to go over it again. The party’s response to Moore, meanwhile, was what you might describe as, well, semi-pathetic. To their credit, a number of elected Republicans called on Moore to exit the race or said they would vote for a write-in candidate, and the National Republican Senatorial Committee pulled its funding from his campaign.

The Republican National Committee did as well, at least briefly. But after Donald Trump decided to reendorse Moore, the RNC resumed its support of his candidacy, stating, “We stand with the president.”

When it came to Jordan, congressional Republicans simply circled the wagons. In 2018, then House Speaker Paul Ryan waved off demands for an ethics committee inquiry into whether Jordan was lying about his conduct as a wrestling coach, saying that the panel “​​investigates things that members do while they’re here, not things that happened a couple of decades ago when they weren’t in Congress.”

He then called Jordan “a man of honesty and a man of integrity.”

Later, in 2020, Jordan’s GOP colleagues selected him to become the top ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, which handles federal criminal legislation—including on issues such as sex trafficking and child pornography. Liz Cheney, then the No. 3 Republican in the House, said it was a “totally unified decision all around.”

This all unfolded in the face of credible allegations that Jordan not only knew about the abuse at Ohio State, but had responded to multiple students who told him about it with comments like “If he tried that on me, I would kill him.” By all accounts, Strauss’ behavior was an open secret. Six former wrestlers told CNN that they were personally present when Jordan heard misconduct complaints about the doctor. A former ref also filed a lawsuit alleging that he complained to Jordan and another coach after Strauss masturbated in front of him, and they merely responded, “Yeah, that’s Strauss.”
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 1:08am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
Pervy.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/decades-sexual-predator-doctor-groomed-community-believe-he-could-do-n982131

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gymnastics-doctor-sentenced-to-40-to-175-years-in-prison/

there are multiple cases in the news of predatory doctors.

this is why standard practise today is for examinations to be under supervision, preferably with a family member in the room
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:16am On Mar 23, 2025
GloriousGbola:
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/decades-sexual-predator-doctor-groomed-community-believe-he-could-do-n982131

https://www.timesofisrael.com/gymnastics-doctor-sentenced-to-40-to-175-years-in-prison/

there are multiple cases in the news of predatory doctors.

this is why standard practise today is for examinations to be under supervision, preferably with a family member in the room
They wanna act dumb. Let this be a Democrat bill saying kids privates should be examined without parent’s consent or presence and see how they will react to it.

I’m curious to know what doctor is going to be willing to put their reputation on the line for this nonsense.

Perverts won’t see anything wrong with it though so I’m not surprised they’re okay with this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:25am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
They wanna act dumb. Let this be a Democrat bill saying kids privates should be examined without parent’s consent or presence and see how they will react to it.

I’m curious to know what doctor is going to be willing to put their reputation on the line for this nonsense.

Perverts won’t see anything wrong with it though so I’m not surprised they’re okay with this.
the ones asking kids to masturbate, putting porn in their books, etc. are the Democrats
the ones trying to normalize pedophilia by calling child predators "Minor-Attracted People" and liberals.
the perverts are in your party. they control the media and these days they sexualize children from left to right.
ask yourself why the country is gravitating to conservative ideas.

Biden accuser Tara Reade flees to Moscow, criticizes US as unsafe

you don't care about this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m):
This is a supposed image of one of the guys who was "deported" and imprisoned because they said he was a drug dealer.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:13am On Mar 23, 2025

‘Deported because of his tattoos’: has the US targeted Venezuelans for their body art?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art

An official Department of Homeland Security document issued in early February and reviewed by the Guardian states: “[The] subject [Caraballo] has been identified as a Member/Active of Tren de Aragua” although it does not explain how agents reached that conclusion. The same document notes that Caraballo – who it calls a “Deportable/Excludable Alien” – has several tattoos and no known criminal history “at this time”.

Rosenow rejected the idea that the images inked on to his client’s skin indicated gang membership. “It’s specious – there’s no basis [for this conclusion],” he said. “Experts in Venezuela who study the gang have all stated that there are no tattoos that associate gang members. It’s not like the Central American MS-13 gang where tattoos are relevant in their organization.”

“Tren de Agua has no [specific] tattoos,” Rosenow continued. “If you see pictures [of actual Tren de Aragua members arrested in the US], they’re shirtless and many of them don’t even have tattoos.

“I’m nauseated by it all. I’m distressed for these individuals. I’m sad for what this means. As an American, for me it’s disgraceful that we would violate human rights so flagrantly on an international level.”

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
IjeBos:

‘Deported because of his tattoos’: has the US targeted Venezuelans for their body art?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/20/deported-because-of-his-tattoos-has-the-us-targeted-venezuelans-for-their-body-art
He just sold slaves to his buddy for free prison labor. It’s not even complicated
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:35am On Mar 23, 2025
Unsurprising.

Meanwhile the streets are packed daily with people protesting his asinine policies and the media is hardly covering it.
Donald Trump’s net approval rating in 2025 has reached a shocking low, worse than any modern U.S. president in the last 70 years. Polls from CNN, FOX, Ipsos, NBC, and Quinnipiac University show Trump’s approval rating dropping from +7 in January to -2 in March, a sharp 9-point decline. while Trump is slightly better off than he was in 2017, he remains “underwater,” unlike any other president at this stage of their term.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by joseph1832(m): 8:04am On Mar 23, 2025
cococandy:
Unsurprising.

Meanwhile the streets are packed daily with people protesting his asinine policies and the media is hardly covering it.
Yet it is this same people who voted for him, or am I missing something? 🤔
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by joseph1832(m): 8:07am On Mar 23, 2025
bemeruca:
the ones asking kids to masturbate, putting porn in their books, etc. are the Democrats
the ones trying to normalize pedophilia by calling child predators "Minor-Attracted People" and liberals.
the perverts are in your party. they control the media and these days they sexualize children from left to right.
ask yourself why the country is gravitating to conservative ideas.

Biden accuser Tara Reade flees to Moscow, criticizes US as unsafe

you don't care about this.
Oh so they're even gone this low? Why am I not surprise. Very soon it'll be sympathy for rapists.
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