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Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:34pm On Mar 26, 2025
Emusan:
So you can't provide just a single evidence where one animal has evolved to another.
Have you heard of speciation?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:36pm On Mar 26, 2025
Lucifyre:
😂 Jesus christ! What even on fucking neptune is the bolded. Educating you would be a fool's errand i have no intention of running. Last i checked you do have access to the internet to educate urself, instead of making embarrassing and outrightly daft statements like the bolded. Maybe while educating urself you'd also find video observations showing how we descended from the continued incestous relationship of the offsprings, of 2 goat herders in the middle east who suddenly appeared in a magical garden. Frigging Joke.
He believes a book that talks about talking snakes, donkeys, bushes etc, mass resurrections, sun and moon standing still etc. But he disbelieves evolution. Awesome grin
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 7:38pm On Mar 26, 2025
TenQ:
Did you see the words or EMPTY or an ELECTRONICS FAILURE !?

You didn't!
I dont understand your point, sire
Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 8:08pm On Mar 26, 2025
LordReed:
That is not how evolution works, you've been told this over and over again.
How does evolution work?
Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 8:09pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
Have you heard of speciation?
Just provide a single video evidence that show evolution from one stage to another.
Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 8:09pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
Do you believe in the bible stories? Yes or no? I don't need rigmaroles
Yes!
Re: Does God Exist? by TenQ:
jaephoenix:
I dont understand your point, sire
1. An EMPTY memory device is not really blank. It contains random ordered array of zeros and ones
Because there is no legible instructions in the memory device for the CPU , the CPU becomes FROZEN as it doesn't know how to proceed.
When the CPU freezes, it transfers protocol to the ROM to execute the Blue Screen of Death Sequence.

2. An ELECTRONICS FAILURE may be fatal in the sense that it prevents the reading of whatever is written in the memory device. The result is exactly the same: as the CPU freezes up and transfers protocol to the ROM to execute the Blue Screen of Death Sequence.

Either way, the CPU doesn't know the difference between an EMPTY memory device or a CORRUPTED SOFTWARE or an ELECTRONICS FAILURE.



Summary
There is no physical method that can be used to Detect the presence of a software within the memory device of a computer. The only evidence you can get is to use an appropriate software decoder (another software) in its own hardware for decoding the information.

Example:
A Hard Disk Drive containing a perfectly working Mac Operating system and Application Softwares will produce the BSOD when connected with the CPU of a PC. The PC CPU doesn't know if the HDD (of a Mac Computer) is EMPTY or SOFTWARE IS CORRUPT or there is an ELECTRONICS ERROR!
Here the SOFTWARE is intact but the CPU cannot decode the Information.
Re: Does God Exist? by Gabrielshow24: 9:50pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
Ah yes, u have brought in god here. If I ask u question about this god, you'll dodge it. So if you think god exists, what proof do u have? I need one single proof!
Please which atheist told you the universe came from nothing. Show me where he said so. And dont dodge this one
Educate yourself 🙃
Singularity isn't "concrete".
Re: Does God Exist? by LordReed(m): 9:50pm On Mar 26, 2025
Emusan:
How does evolution work?
Evolution is the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. It occurs when evolutionary processes such as natural selection and genetic drift act on genetic variation, resulting in certain characteristics becoming more or less common within a population over successive generations. The more these changes occur and accumulate the more diversity you get.
Re: Does God Exist? by Gabrielshow24: 9:52pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
From ur posts, u dont believe micro but believe macro. Doesn't make sense since its either one believes in evolution or not. U can't believe in one type and disbelieve the other. Also many christians dont believe in evolution . So that question is valid. I want to know your stance?
I hope ur fellow christians r seeing how insolent u r. Cos when I reply u, thats when u will start crying like a baby
It doesn't make sense to you.

An educated personality can see that micro evolution is well tested and verifiable unlike Macro that no direct evidence exist for🙃.
Re: Does God Exist? by Gabrielshow24: 9:54pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
I asked u to define macro evolution as u understand it but somehow u have been dodging that question.
Lemme ask u again. Define macro evolution.
Then look at the example we showed u about formation of the multicellular organism again
Don't be foolish.
Macro evolution is well defined, if you don't know kindly query then compare what you gave up there with its definition!!!

I don't have time for babbles.
Next point, if you have any to make
Re: Does God Exist? by Gabrielshow24: 9:57pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
Ah yes, u have brought in god here. If I ask u question about this god, you'll dodge it. So if you think god exists, what proof do u have? I need one single proof!
Please which atheist told you the universe came from nothing. Show me where he said so. And dont dodge this one
Also ask one of your colleagues. He knows himself 🙃.

Kindly provide direct observational proof for macro evolution.
If you can then we will talk😂😂😂.

All this is futile, you are trying to change the problem statement inorder for me to indulge you in your vanities.

If you want to discuss about the existence of God, kindly create a new thread and in my spare time we will discuss.
Re: Does God Exist? by Gabrielshow24: 10:09pm On Mar 26, 2025
Emusan:
Just provide a single video evidence that show evolution from one stage to another.
What you are asking for is macro evolution!
The same proof they can't provide.
The only ones that they do have are indirect proofs 🤔.

Evolution is split into two based on the order of "change" namely: Macroevolution and micro evolution.

Summary of macro - cross specie evolution etc.
Summary of micro - genetic changes within a specie due to several factors.

Micro is well established in organisms such as nylon eating bacteria, drug resistant bacteria to say a few.

Macro on the other hand, takes a lot of years 🤔- millions.
Some theories also suggest that macro evolution might not happen again within a specie due to "stasis" etc.

My question to them, which is quite simple is for them to bring: direct observation proof for macro evolution 🤔!

Something even their brightest minds have failed to do🤕.
Maybe when they have such, we will talk.
Until then don't stress yourself,

Even the very things they believe in don't always have "direct observational proof".
Many of which rely on indirect observational studies 👀.
Re: Does God Exist? by advocatejare(m): 11:48pm On Mar 26, 2025
jaephoenix:
I just showed u the communique. So r u saying the communique is showed u was fake? Lol 😆
Oga, i told you how I became an atheist. U twisted the narrative urself
Liar, you didn’t show me any communique you only showed screenshots of unverified write up. I showed you the communique signed by NARD President, Secretary-General and Public & Social Secretary and what they signed didn’t capture the lie you wrote.

You should be ashamed of yourself for being an unrepentant liar.

I will attach the signed communique again, show yours ( not unverified write up)

Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:21am On Mar 27, 2025
Emusan:
How does evolution work?
Evolution basically means the gradual development of something. It can be an animal which includes human, or plants
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:22am On Mar 27, 2025
Emusan:
Just provide a single video evidence that show evolution from one stage to another.
Unfortunately I cannot do that cos it takes at least months or years.
So lemme quickly ask…
Do you believe in the Bible?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:23am On Mar 27, 2025
Emusan:
Yes!
So you believe all the supernatural claims there, despite there being any videos, audios or any observable evidence? grin
Re: Does God Exist? by Lucifyre: 9:33am On Mar 27, 2025
jaephoenix:
He believes a book that talks about talking snakes, donkeys, bushes etc, mass resurrections, sun and moon standing still etc. But he disbelieves evolution. Awesome grin
The irony is biblical. Like you have to be purposefully and intentionally dense, to ask for "observational" and "empirical evidence" when your contradictory joke book of mythology has virtuallly none, and that which we have paints it a parody of itself. That's not even considering not having a single clue about the nuances of the evidence you're asking for. They're taking extra steps to stay daft. Quite typical tbf 😁
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:43am On Mar 27, 2025
TenQ:
1. An EMPTY memory device is not really blank. It contains random ordered array of zeros and ones
Because there is no legible instructions in the memory device for the CPU , the CPU becomes FROZEN as it doesn't know how to proceed.
When the CPU freezes, it transfers protocol to the ROM to execute the Blue Screen of Death Sequence.

2. An ELECTRONICS FAILURE may be fatal in the sense that it prevents the reading of whatever is written in the memory device. The result is exactly the same: as the CPU freezes up and transfers protocol to the ROM to execute the Blue Screen of Death Sequence.

Either way, the CPU doesn't know the difference between an EMPTY memory device or a CORRUPTED SOFTWARE or an ELECTRONICS FAILURE.



Summary
There is no physical method that can be used to Detect the presence of a software within the memory device of a computer. The only evidence you can get is to use an appropriate software decoder (another software) in its own hardware for decoding the information.

Example:
A Hard Disk Drive containing a perfectly working Mac Operating system and Application Softwares will produce the BSOD when connected with the CPU of a PC. The PC CPU doesn't know if the HDD (of a Mac Computer) is EMPTY or SOFTWARE IS CORRUPT or there is an ELECTRONICS ERROR!
Here the SOFTWARE is intact but the CPU cannot decode the Information.
What u said is true but we are talking about HOW TO DETECT IF A PC HAS A SOFTWARE OR NOT. A PC Without an OS (simply wont boot )
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:44am On Mar 27, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Educate yourself 🙃
Singularity isn't "concrete".
You haven't answered the question. Try again grin
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:45am On Mar 27, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
It doesn't make sense to you.

An educated personality can see that micro evolution is well tested and verifiable unlike Macro that no direct evidence exist for🙃.
So the scientists that believe macro aint educated? grin
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:46am On Mar 27, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Don't be foolish.
Macro evolution is well defined, if you don't know kindly query then compare what you gave up there with its definition!!!

I don't have time for babbles.
Next point, if you have any to make
Again, define macro evolution, cos u don't even understand the examples we have given you. From the definition, we can continue this discourse
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:53am On Mar 27, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Also ask one of your colleagues. He knows himself 🙃.

Kindly provide direct observational proof for macro evolution.
If you can then we will talk😂😂😂.

All this is futile, you are trying to change the problem statement inorder for me to indulge you in your vanities.

If you want to discuss about the existence of God, kindly create a new thread and in my spare time we will discuss.
I have gone through his posts and I cannot see such statements. If you think I'm lying, kindly show me. If you don't show me, then you're lying once again(which isn't surprising)
We have given you a link about a unicellular turning multi but you rejected it. Thus I asked you for the definition of macro evolution.
About the existence of god, obviously you don't even know the title of the thread you have been commenting on for about a week. If you can't provide a proof just hide your face in shame
Re: Does God Exist? by TenQ: 9:57am On Mar 27, 2025
jaephoenix:
What u said is true but we are talking about HOW TO DETECT IF A PC HAS A SOFTWARE OR NOT. A PC Without an OS (simply wont boot )
Let me break it again into a simple language

1. I have a HDD and it is loaded with Mac OS and may application softwares. So, it is not empty.
2. I connect this non-empty HDD to a PC machines

What would be the output of the PC machine?
Does it imply that the HDD is empty?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 9:57am On Mar 27, 2025
TenQ:
Did you see the words or EMPTY or an ELECTRONICS FAILURE !?

You didn't!
What is a software? Lets start from there
Re: Does God Exist? by TenQ: 10:01am On Mar 27, 2025
jaephoenix:
What is a software? Lets start from there
Software refers to a set of instructions, data, or programs that enable a computer to perform specific tasks.


The question is , can a software be said to EXIST within a suitable hardware of a Computer?

Is there any Physical method of determining the EXISTENCE of a software within a hardware without another software running on a suitable hardware?
Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 10:22am On Mar 27, 2025
LordReed:
Evolution is the change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations. It occurs when evolutionary processes such as natural selection and genetic drift act on genetic variation, resulting in certain characteristics becoming more or less common within a population over successive generations. The more these changes occur and accumulate the more diversity you get.
Good!

Do all living things on earth go through the process of evolution?

Do all living things evolve at the same time?
Re: Does God Exist? by Emusan(m): 10:25am On Mar 27, 2025
jaephoenix:
So you believe all the supernatural claims there, despite there being any videos, audios or any observable evidence? grin
I even thought you have meaningful thing to contribute.

Yes! I believe the SUPERNATURAL claims there.

You don't need VIDEO or AUDIO in BELIEVE.

Abi Bible claim to be a scientific journal or book?
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:29am On Mar 27, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
What you are asking for is macro evolution!
The same proof they can't provide.
The only ones that they do have are indirect proofs 🤔.

Evolution is split into two based on the order of "change" namely: Macroevolution and micro evolution.

Summary of macro - cross specie evolution etc.
Summary of micro - genetic changes within a specie due to several factors.

Micro is well established in organisms such as nylon eating bacteria, drug resistant bacteria to say a few.

Macro on the other hand, takes a lot of years 🤔- millions.
Some theories also suggest that macro evolution might not happen again within a specie due to "stasis" etc.

My question to them, which is quite simple is for them to bring: direct observation proof for macro evolution 🤔!

Something even their brightest minds have failed to do🤕.
Maybe when they have such, we will talk.
Until then don't stress yourself,

Even the very things they believe in don't always have "direct observational proof".
Many of which rely on indirect observational studies 👀.
Your guy is like the regular theist: zero knowledge of evolution
Since you wanna know about macro evolution answer these
1. Do you know humans have tails? Can you explain what happened to it?
2. Do you know the function of organs like appendix, wisdom tooth etc?
Answer these questions and we can discuss macro
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:37am On Mar 27, 2025
advocatejare:
Liar, you didn’t show me any communique you only showed screenshots of unverified write up. I showed you the communique signed by NARD President, Secretary-General and Public & Social Secretary and what they signed didn’t capture the lie you wrote.

You should be ashamed of yourself for being an unrepentant liar.

I will attach the signed communique again, show yours ( not unverified write up)
You called me insolent but it turned out you're the insolent one, resorting to insults whenever you are engaging someone and then crying like a baby when the insult is dished out to you.
I explained how I became an atheist clearly, and that negated the earlier statement where you said I only became an atheist after my dad's demise.
About NARD, you are not a member neither are you a doctor, so how the fvck would you know what transpired at the NARD NEC
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:39am On Mar 27, 2025
Lucifyre:
The irony is biblical. Like you have to be purposefully and intentionally dense, to ask for "observational" and "empirical evidence" when your contradictory joke book of mythology has virtuallly none, and that which we have paints it a parody of itself. That's not even considering not having a single clue about the nuances of the evidence you're asking for. They're taking extra steps to stay daft. Quite typical tbf 😁
Becoming dafft may be accidental but staying dafft takes a whole new meaning, especially in these days of rapidly available information
Re: Does God Exist? by jaephoenix(m): 10:41am On Mar 27, 2025
TenQ:
Let me break it again into a simple language

1. I have a HDD and it is loaded with Mac OS and may application softwares. So, it is not empty.
2. I connect this non-empty HDD to a PC machines

What would be the output of the PC machine?
Does it imply that the HDD is empty?
No, the PC won't display any OS. So what is the import of this on our discourse?
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