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MaxInDHouse:
Max doesn't have anything useful yet you like his perspective.

Stop lying to your own soul out of animosity!

As usual talking out of point.

My statements are self explanatory 🙃.
You can infer whatsoever you like but my words speak for itself.

Your conclusion never follows your premises.
You can never land!!!

Gabrielshow24:
As usual talking out of point.
My statements are self explanatory 🙃.
You can infer whatsoever you like but my words speak for itself.
Your conclusion never follows your premises. You can never land!!!

Yet all these people commended Max for upbuilding comments:

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

Even the OP of this thread singled out Max to learn from the same Max!

Newgoodkk:
Pls. We need Knowledge, Don't turn this into Unnecessary Argument, Make your Comment and don't try to force your View, Comments and Believes on others

Don't come on here and starts commenting like God .

If you comment, Wether right or wrong Leave others , they have right to believe or not .

MaxinDHouse , Kobojunkie , Dtruthspeaker and others You are all Welcome.

MaxInDHouse:
You are not ok ma.
Suffering is the opposite of comfort and animals weren't created for comfortable life unlike humans so stop using that word SUFFERING when talking about animals because that's their life for you.

Ouch!
That's the appropriate reply to this😆
Same exact thing that was said of blacks!
They really did a number on you, didn't they?
When animals are comfortable and eating something delicious they're said to be enjoying just like humans. But when they're screaming in pain they're NOT suffering because that's their life!
It's amazing that an adult can be taught this.
Even a child won't even think it!

Gabrielshow24:
Thanks for clarifying 🤣🤣🤣🤣.

Typical Max😁

U quite welcome my dear, u quite welcome

MaxInDHouse:
You are the one who digressed from the main point.
Satan wasn't created an evil person he turned to evil "because the truth is not in him" that's what Christ Jesus said {John 8:44} therefore all the problem on earth today emanates from one single act which is REBELLION against God's arrangement, you saying God allowed DUALITY is nonsense God wants to follow due process in judging Satan, demons and all evildoers that's why evil has lasted up till now.

For your information the phrase "the Beginning and the end" {Revelations 1:8} that both God and Jesus were called means they both knew the origin of badness and it's only the two of them will certainly see it's end any other person who wants to live forever when badness is no more must have the knowledge of both God and Jesus! John 17:3

Satan was not created evil so from where did the evil enter?,
He was not created evil, yet the truth was not in him. Is the truth not being in him not evil?
Even apostles of Christ that He Himself hand-picked - one of them was evil!
You also said animals only kill for food! You haven't addressed that

Gabrielshow24:
He definitely can't relate 👀.

He is so caught up in his little "domain of disorder" that he can't see "suffering" but like Itachi,I will make him suffer ✌️🤞🤘🤟🖖☝️🫵

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Isn't amazing what we humans can believe? Whites actually believed same thing about blacks

Newgoodkk:
Daddy cool , You are quite intelligent.

can I Private chat you pls. i'm Peter .

0905..40
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Thanks my dear, you too.
Thank u so much. I'd have my people vet you which may involve contacting you. So don't be surprised if an unknown number calls. Thanks again

DaddyCoool:

Ouch!
That's the appropriate reply to this😆
Same exact thing that was said of blacks!
They really did a number on you, didn't they?
When animals are comfortable and eating something delicious they're said to be enjoying just like humans. But when they're screaming in pain they're NOT suffering because that's their life!
It's amazing that an adult can be taught this.
Even a child won't even think it!

If you like take it to anywhere suffering has nothing to do with animals because that's their life only humans think of comfort!

MaxInDHouse:
If you like take it to anywhere suffering has nothing to do with animals because that's their life only humans think of comfort!

They really did a number on you sir. Do you ever look inwards and ask yourself "how can I believe thus crap?!"😆
An animal chained in a dungeon, being bitten by insects and starving to death is not suffering because that's it's life!

Oga, all things in existence in this reality, from the physical world to emotions and concepts, have dual nature, with opposing forces or qualities. Good and evil cannot be the only exceptions. Until God abolishes this system of things, that's what we're stuck with!

sonmvayina:
Both good and evil originate from the same source. They are exclusive properties of the creator of heaven and the earth.
There is evil in Good and good in evil. That's what the ying yang means.

Of course all things are from the same source. Where did you want them to come from?

DaddyCoool:
An animal chained in a dungeon.

Chained by human or animal?

Please stop this nonsense, i keep telling you that the only case that could make God or man set up rules regarding the life of animals is to prevent humans from maltreating them not when animals kill animals for food.

Get that into your skull first before cooking something stupid again!

MaxInDHouse:
Chained by human or animal?

Please stop this nonsense, i keep telling you that the only case that could make God or man set up rules regarding the life of animals is to prevent humans from maltreating them not when animals kill animals for food.

Get that into your skull first before cooking something stupid again!

Meaning what?
I'm honestly mystified how a person can reason like you.
Ok, forget chained, assume it got entangled in some jungle growth and being bitten by insects and starving to death.
How does how it got there change the fact it was suffering??!!

DaddyCoool:
Meaning what?
I'm honestly mystified how a person can reason like you.
Ok, forget chained, assume it got entangled in some jungle growth and being bitten by insects and starving to death.
How does how he got there change the fact it was suffering??!!

Is it God that set such trap to buttress your COUNTERBALANCING concept?

floss:
The devil was only created to do evil, that's the problem he has with God, that was his divine purpose of existence, the devil never liked that job description because he felt it wasn't fair.
So he wasn't meant to gain consciousness to the point of questioning his purpose, that's why he was termed "Rebellious ". Take for example, your superior at your work place gives you an instruction to carry out, which you have been doing in the past in obedience but this particular day he gives you similar instructions and you asked him/her
"what's the purpose of doing this task? "….
You'll notice that from that moment, your superior's countenance will become different towards you and when you repeat similar act, he/she sees you as a problem and sees you as becoming rebellious and always questioning his or her orders.

These were exactly the case between God and lucifer, and something led to it, and it's called " over familiarity ", lucifer was God's most beloved angel, because he was the one doing the dirty work for God… God is holy and cannot be involved directly in anything evil, but he can do evil by proxy using lucifer, which was what lucifer started questioning.

How's is lucifer God most beloved angel, he knows the dirty work he has been doing as a result of God's instructions, so it's always very easy to bring in someone that knows how dangerous you're closer so that you can always checkmate him or her and also because you both understand how important and dangerous the information and some secrets the person possesses. This is why lucifer felt like he knew God more than other angels and the thing that made him God, but that's just a grain of salt information when compared to the complexity of God.

Lucifer only knew the bad side of God but didn't know the loving, good and caring side of God because he wasn't created for such and he longed so much for it, he can only pretend to enforce the good side but it doesn't last, the evil side takes over immediately and dominates, that's why the devil can be caring, loving, but it's temporary, it's all enclosed and packaged in deceit because it's not in his making to be good.

Take a programmed robot as an example, the robot suddenly gains consciousness, but despite his new acquired consciousness, it's not able to override the program which it was designed, it ends up doing the developer's bidding.
That's what the devil experiences, that's why the devil doesn't see God as all loving, because he felt it's against his will.

Note : Angels don't have free will, if you're created to be a dancing angel for God's amusement, that's what you will be doing in default, you as an angel doesn't have a choice, all you must do is obey.

This free will was given to humans, that's why lucifer became angry and filled himself with rage towards humans because Humans was God's favourite in all his creation,

Lucifer seeing that God loves humans and cared for them, always available for them that multiplied his rage.

Next he went to other angels that do similar job like him and woke their consciousness, it was easy for him because those angels were already evil but obedience, but due to his cunning skill, he only needed to trigger them into being disobedience, those angels were already evil like lucifer by default, but they were obedient to God, so lucifer was able to make them disobey God, and they became rebellious, giving lucifer the number he needed to get God attention.

The good angels it was difficult because by default they were good, so tricking them to join him was a waste of time, so that was where the war started cooking.

God made all evil angels leave heaven, they fell short of God's Grace…. That's where the concept of
"Fallen Angels" came from.

Those rebellious angels lost all privileges, since all was orchestrated by lucifer, he led them away waiting for the day of final hearing, until then Lucifer have been busy.

I know there are different biblical interpretations of this story, but I've always wondered about the spiritual implications for our own lives and how we face our own fears.

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The narrative you've created contains elements that aren't found in Scripture. The Bible doesn't actually state that Satan was created specifically to do evil - this would contradict the fundamental Christian understanding that God created everything good initially.

We often create explanations that feel satisfying emotionally, even when they may not align with our faith's core teachings. It's natural to want clear-cut explanations for difficult concepts like the origin of evil.

The traditional understanding from Isaiah 14 and Ezekiel 28 (though these passages are debated among scholars) suggests Satan fell because of pride and a desire to be like God - not because he was created for evil and rebelled against that purpose.

The idea that angels lack free will contradicts most Christian theological traditions. If angels couldn't choose, Lucifer's rebellion wouldn't make sense as a moral choice. Most Christian traditions hold that both angels and humans were given free will, allowing for genuine love and service to God.

I'd encourage deeper engagement with Scripture and Christian tradition. The story of Satan's fall reminds us that pride can corrupt even great beauty and intelligence - a warning that remains relevant to all of us today.

God bless your spiritual journey and your search for understanding.

NOT TO DESTROY HIS PLANS BUT TO DOUBLE CHECK HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS.
SATAN IS THE CHIEF ENGINEER OF GOD.-READ THE BOOK OF JOB.

MaxInDHouse:
Is it God that set such trap to buttress your COUNTERBALANCING concept?

Meaning what, again? You're jumping all over the place.
You said animals started eating other animals because Adam ate fruit (just imagine such reasoning😆) - You didn't explain why not ALL animals but only carnivores.
You said animals being tortured didn't suffer because God didn't say they suffered. You didn't explain why God has to tell you everything - God didn't tell us not to eat pupu either!
You said Animals only kill for food. You didn't explain dogs killing dogs, lions killing lions, etc.
You said Satan was not created evil. You didn't explain where the evil entered from.
You said Satan never had any truth in him. You didn't explain how that did not make him evil
etc

DaddyCoool:
Meaning what, again? You're jumping all over the place.
You said animals started eating other animals because Adam ate fruit (just imagine such reasoning😆) - You didn't explain why not ALL animals but only carnivores.
You said animals being tortured didn't suffer because God didn't say they suffered. You didn't explain why God has to tell you everything - God didn't tell us not to eat pupu either!
You said Animals only kill for food. You didn't explain dogs killing dogs, lions killing lions, etc.
You said Satan was not created evil. You didn't explain where the evil entered from.
You said Satan never had any truth in him. You didn't explain how that did not make him evil
etc

This is what the OP wants to avoid!

He said:

Newgoodkk:
Pls. We need Knowledge, Don't turn this into Unnecessary Argument, Make your Comment and don't try to force your View, Comments and Believes on others .
Don't come on here and starts commenting like God .

If you comment, Wether right or wrong Leave others , they have right to believe or not .

MaxinDHouse , Kobojunkie , Dtruthspeaker and others You are all Welcome.

Had it been you RESPECTFULLY addressed me on whatever i believe it would have been showing you in the scriptures whatever you want to know about my beliefs but instead it's the exact opposite of what the OP said that you did.

Imagine how you first addressed me as if you are the moderator of the thread:

DaddyCoool:
Your rather childish thesis does not answer the question of the topic:

So if you want to know what someone believes next time ask politely not thinking you know better then rubbishing another person's comment.

Now you are free to ask me whatever questions but please politely because i won't take insults from you simply because i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses so you just have to treat me like nobody!

MaxInDHouse:
This is what the OP wants to avoid!

He said:



Had it been you RESPECTFULLY addressed me on whatever i believe it would have been showing you in the scriptures whatever you want to know about my beliefs but instead it's the exact opposite of what the OP said that you did.

Imagine how you first addressed me as if you are the moderator of the thread:


So if you want to know what someone believes next time ask politely not thinking you know better then rubbishing another person's comment.

Now you are free to ask me whatever questions but please politely because i won't take insults from you simply because i'm one of Jehovah's Witnesses so you just have to treat me like nobody!

Sir (notice how polite), how is it insult when someone is talking nonsense (like animals only kill for food, animals don't suffer, etc), and you say they're talking nonsense? How?

DaddyCoool:
Sir (notice how polite), how is it insult when someone is talking nonsense (like animals only kill for food, animals don't suffer, etc), and you say they're talking nonsense? How?

The OP said

Newgoodkk:
If you comment, Wether right or wrong Leave others , they have right to believe or not.

So whatever anyone believes at least you should RESPECT the person not just jump into the person's comment and start insulting the person claiming what he or she believes doesn't make sense.

That's my own belief and to prove me wrong you have to be polite in talking to me. Remember that all what you believe stinks to me yet i maintained politeness because the OP said that's what he wants.

So don't think you're the only one feeling irritated by my beliefs yours also irritates me!

MaxInDHouse:
The OP said


So whatever anyone believes at least you should RESPECT the person not just jump into the person's comment and start insulting the person claiming what he or she believes doesn't make sense.

That's my own belief and to prove me wrong you have to be polite in talking to me. Remember that all what you believe stinks to me yet i maintained politeness because the OP said that's what he wants.

So don't think you're the only one feeling irritated by my beliefs yours also irritates me!

Of course you have a right to talk nonsense. But I also have a right to politely say you're talking nonsense

I think that oughta put a kibosh on that. I opened a thread, in case anyone is interested:
https://www.nairaland.com/8383051/please-explain-these-adam-eve https://www.nairaland.com/8383051/please-explain-these-adam-eve
sonmvayina, MaxInDHouse, Gabrielshow24, Newgoodkk

DaddyCoool:
Of course you have a right to talk nonsense. But I also have a right to politely say you're talking nonsense

So i also have the right to politely tell you that you're talking nonsense if you feel that your nonsense should be enforced on everyone!

MaxInDHouse:
So i also have the right to politely tell you that you're talking nonsense if you feel that your nonsense should be enforced on everyone!

Exactly. As long as you can show why it is nonsense.
Example, when you say animals only kill for food

DaddyCoool:
I think that oughta put a kibosh on that. I opened a thread, in case anyone is interested:
https://www.nairaland.com/8383051/please-explain-these-adam-eve https://www.nairaland.com/8383051/please-explain-these-adam-eve
sonmvayina, MaxInDHouse, Gabrielshow24, Newgoodkk

Invite your church members first let's see how you people agree on doctrine before inviting me.
I believe God's people must have the same line of thought {John 17:22; 1Corinthans 1:10} even though it seems foolish to people of the world! 1Corinthans 2:14

So share whatever you have with your fellow believers!

DaddyCoool:
Exactly. As long as you can show why it is nonsense.
Example, when you say animals only kill for food

That's why nobody made laws to prevent animals from hunting animals because they only kill for food!

MaxInDHouse:
That's why nobody made laws to prevent animals from hunting animals because they only kill for food!

See, you've started talking foolish again sir.
How can anyone make laws to prevent animals from doing anything? You talking nonsense again sir.
And, once again, you see animals killing other animals all the time without eating them. You see cats kill mice all the time without eating them

DaddyCoool:
See, you've started talking foolish again sir.
How can anyone make laws to prevent animals from doing anything? You talking nonsense again sir.
And, once again, you see animals killing other animals all the time without eating them. You see cats kill mice all the time without eating them

Young girl i've told you several times that anytime you're bringing these your nonsense first think over it before bringing it to me.
Cats are domesticated animals that has been trained to eat COOKED meals but the owner trained it to kill pests in the house not to eat it.

We are talking about what is happening in the jungle as in wild life there no animal kill without eating what it killed!

MaxInDHouse:
Young girl i've told you several times that anytime you're bringing these your nonsense first think over it before bringing it to me.
Cats are domesticated animals that has been trained to eat COOKED meals but the owner trained it to kill pests in the house not to eat it.

We are talking about what is happening in the jungle as in wild life there no animal kill without eating what it killed!

See, you're still talking nonsense sir. YouTube is full of videos of animals in the wild killing other animals without eating them. Example, the five brother lions below killed over 100 lions. So sir what you said is called NONSENSE, and it's not an insult to respectfully tell you so

DaddyCoool:
See, you're still talking nonsense sir. YouTube is full of videos of animals in the wild killing other animals without eating them. Example, the five brother lions below killed over 100 lions. So sir what you said is called NONSENSE, and it's not an insult to respectfully tell you so

The problem with Max is that he doesn't always consider all perspectives mostly due to ignorance!
He just makes a statement and then generalizes it😂😂😂.

He doesn't know that it's well documented that some animals kill for sport!
Some toy and kill their prey just for the sake of thrills!!!

If it were to be domains👀 now he will understand 😂😂😂.

Gabrielshow24:
The problem with Max is that he doesn't always consider all perspectives mostly due to ignorance!
He just makes a statement and then generalizes it😂😂😂.

He doesn't know that it's well documented that some animals kill for sport!
Some toy and kill their prey just for the sake of thrills!!!

If it were to be domains👀 now he will understand 😂😂😂.

I don't think it is ignorance. I think it is indoctrination - he dares not deviate from JW teachings on anything no matter how obviously ridiculous

DaddyCoool:
See, you're still talking nonsense sir. YouTube is full of videos of animals in the wild killing other animals without eating them. Example, the five brother lions below killed over 100 lions. So sir what you said is called NONSENSE, and it's not an insult to respectfully tell you so

You may continue deceiving yourself no laws was made regarding animals killing animals because it's evident that they only kill for food!

MaxInDHouse:
You may continue deceiving yourself no laws was made regarding animals killing animals because it's evident that they only kill for food!

lost false jw mad max

talk about being mad, you satan's mob are as mad and as confused and as dum as they come, of course:

1Co 14:33  For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints