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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 8:27pm On Mar 29, 2025
IjeBos:
You just wrote a post here in which you seemed to be able to understand the difference in how words are used.
And then you write this.

Jill Biden attended a Cabiner meeting on a White House initiative on Women's Health Research. She spoke for about 4.5 minutes.
As you also know at these Cabinet meetings the President usually seats in the middle of the Table. So, though she was sitting at the end, she wasn't leading it.

She did not make policy calls, the meeting was not sensitive or classified and she did what most first ladies have done.
The US is not run by Kings and Queens and Royal Families.
It is illegal for anyone who is not cleared to receive classified information to get it.
There is no exemption for people's partners.


https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-cabinet-meeting-jill-biden-2036987

It's so weird you people claim you are so smart and thoughtful but get sucked in this constant propaganda and lies.
This insert is from the link you posted. Make sure you read it slowly. It is from your own link.

Also, sensitive information is not always classified. You'd have to prove you knew the scope of the meeting "if she attended" to know whether she sat in meetings that had classified information. You'd have to also prove she made policy decisions. Remember, you just made the same excuse for Dr. Jill.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 8:30pm On Mar 29, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Did you seriously expect Trump to be any different? Come on cheesy

Unconditional support for Israel will always be part of American foreign policy even if they round up all Palestinians and gas them to an excusiating death. It's just that while Biden and his gang would pretend to disagree with the way Netanyahoo is conducting his ethnic cleansing (while arming them to the teeth and protecting them from the UN and ICC), Donald Trump doesn't bother with any yeye eye service.
I knew he would do some bidding for Miriam Adelson but I didn't know he would completely set to flames most of the promises he made just prior to winning. I agree though, he deceived me.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by FoolishBoy419:
Android17:
I knew he would do some bidding for Miriam Adelson but I didn't know he would completely set to flames most of the promises he made just prior to winning. I agree though, he deceived me.
Trump is as pro-war as they come and with the Houthis, he could easily hide under the guise of fighting terrorism to do Israel's bidding. He also warned that Iran would be held responsible for any retaliatory strikes from Yemen, so taking on Iran on behalf of Israel is also very much on the table. I'm yet to see any proof that Iran or Yemen poses a security threat to America (America first, right?)

Even the game he is playing in Europe is more about his ego than anything else. He wants to be remembered as the guy who ended the war in Ukraine.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:30pm On Mar 29, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Trump is as pro-war as they come and with the Houthis, he could easily hide under the guise of fighting terrorism to do Israel's bidding. He also warned that Iran would be held responsible for any retaliatory strikes from Yemen, so taking on Iran on behalf of Israel is also very much on the table. I'm yet to see any proof that Iran or Yemen poses a security threat to America (America first, right?)

Even the game he is playing in Europe is more about his ego than anything else. He wants to be remembered as the guy who ended the war in Ukraine.




I have a feeling that unless Iran manages to establish
Nonsense. Houthis have fired at least 175 missiles and drone at the Americans, they have sank some ships, killed sailors and kidnap some in a ship they hijacked.

Everything going on in the middle east has Iran in it. US does not need to attack Iran directly, it is the US holding them back from destroying Iran in the first place.

If you ask me I will say attacking Iran now and topple the idiots there is the right thing to do.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by FoolishBoy419: 9:40pm On Mar 29, 2025
bemeruca:
Nonsense. Houthis have fired at least 175 missiles and drone at the Americans, they have sank some ships, killed sailors and kidnap some in a ship they hijacked.

Everything going on in the middle east has Iran in it. US does not need to attack Iran directly, it is the US holding them back from destroying Iran in the first place.

If you ask me I will say attacking Iran now and topple the idiots there is the right thing to do.
The US is preventing Israel from destroying Iran? shocked shocked shocked Can you explain to me in simple terms how Israel can achieve that, given the size of Iran, its military strength, and the distance between Iran and Israel.

The other time, Basilico was telling us a very crazy story similar to this. I wonder what sort of psychological tricks Fox News is doing to shut down your thinking faculties, if you guys possess any.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 10:04pm On Mar 29, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
The US is preventing Israel from destroying Iran? shocked shocked shocked Can you explain to me in simple terms how Israel can achieve that, given the size of Iran, its military strength, and the distance between Iran and Israel.

The other time, Basilico was telling us a very crazy story similar to this. I wonder what sort of psychological tricks Fox News is doing to shut down your thinking faculties, if you guys possess any.
Israel already destroyed their SAMS. Thanks to Israel, Iran's airspace is not secured. They don't have fighter jets to counter Israel's airforce.

You question shows you don't know how things work.
Israel have sabotaged Iran's nuclear sites several times, they know where they are. It is underground but bombs can reach there.

Iran is bing does not mean they cannot destroy their nuclear sites. Remember how they killed Hamas chief in Iran, their spies are part of the program you may not know.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by FoolishBoy419: 11:41pm On Mar 29, 2025
bemeruca:
Israel already destroyed their SAMS. Thanks to Israel, Iran's airspace is not secured. They don't have fighter jets to counter Israel's airforce.

You question shows you don't know how things work.
Israel have sabotaged Iran's nuclear sites several times, they know where they are. It is underground but bombs can reach there.

Iran is bing does not mean they cannot destroy their nuclear sites. Remember how they killed Hamas chief in Iran, their spies are part of the program you may not know.
Look how fast you've changed from claiming they can destroy Iran to saying they can destroy Iranian nuclear sites. Why do you guys always struggle to stick to one argument? cheesy

The tale about destroying Iranian SAM's is nothing but Israel's claim. They have zero proof and we both know they would have provided evidence if they had it. Iran also claimed to have destroyed several F35 jets in their second attack on Israel— I'm sure you don't believe Iran , but you're quick to treat IDF lies as the gospel. And are you aware that some underground structures can withstand nuclear explosions, assuming Israel manages to locate and dodge Iranian multilayered AD protecting those locations

Israel TRIED unsuccessfully to sabotage Iran's nuclear program. Take note of your word usage. Im willing to bet Iran already has atomic bombs currently unless the Ayotollah is as stupid as he is making himself look on this matter.

Modified

That picture you added came up after Iran had dealt a heavy blow to Israel, and USA was trying to avoid an escalation because they knew they'd certainly have to help them from serious destruction if push gets to shove. Mind you, Israel needed help from several countries, especially USA and Jordan to survive Iran's highly TELEGRAPHED attack. Hell, Israel needed American help to survive Hamas and Hezbollah rockets. I'm sorry to burst your bubble sir, but your darling is not as invincible as you think
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 11:51pm On Mar 29, 2025
bemeruca:
Nonsense. Houthis have fired at least 175 missiles and drone at the Americans, they have sank some ships, killed sailors and kidnap some in a ship they hijacked.

Everything going on in the middle east has Iran in it. US does not need to attack Iran directly, it is the US holding them back from destroying Iran in the first place.

If you ask me I will say attacking Iran now and topple the idiots there is the right thing to do.
- Tell us when they did this with evidence.
- Tell us if they ever stopped after the ceasefire deal and which faction broke that ceasefire deal.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 11:54pm On Mar 29, 2025
Android17:
- Tell us when they did this with evidence.
- Tell us if they ever stopped after the ceasefire deal and which faction broke that ceasefire deal.
Unless you have been hibernating. Go online and help yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_93FIlDkqk

They hijacked a ship


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7-d30filLE
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 11:57pm On Mar 29, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Trump is as pro-war as they come and with the Houthis, he could easily hide under the guise of fighting terrorism to do Israel's bidding. He also warned that Iran would be held responsible for any retaliatory strikes from Yemen, so taking on Iran on behalf of Israel is also very much on the table. I'm yet to see any proof that Iran or Yemen poses a security threat to America (America first, right?)

Even the game he is playing in Europe is more about his ego than anything else. He wants to be remembered as the guy who ended the war in Ukraine.




I have a feeling that unless Iran manages to establish
I don't believe Trump is pro-war. That's the only thing I disagree with in this post by the way. I think Trump is realizing bluster and boasting won't solve some of the problems bedeviling America so he is needing to play some of the dirty politics to buy his administration some respite.

This is Miriam Adelson all over. That is why he is asking us to primary Thomas Massie (NEVER) but keep Lindsey F@ggot Graham who has been backstabbing Trump at every chance. But he's Israel first so Miriam's $200m to his campaign is why Trump has to play fiddle.

Same with some of his terrible appointments.
Same with allowing Satanyahu perpetuate himself in power by allowing him to hide behind the war.

The problem with dealing with evil people is, they're never satisfied. I've written this bombings down as Trump's biggest mistake in office currently. He will regret it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by FoolishBoy419: 11:57pm On Mar 29, 2025
Android17:
- Tell us when they did this with evidence.
- Tell us if they ever stopped after the ceasefire deal and which faction broke that ceasefire deal.
He can never do that. It's a lot easier to just call them terrorists and wage war on them while still claiming to value world peace. Once you label someone a terrorist, everything you do and whoever you kill in the process of 'fighting' that terrorist is justified.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
IjeBos:
Imagine waking up every morning and looking up information about a foreign country you've never been to and getting enraged about things you barely understand and have never experienced all while the country you do live in is struggling economically and politically.
Sounds insane right?

I think there is someone you know who made it to the US, that you are jealous of and thus want to fail. So you want all immigrants in the US to fail so that person can fail.
Third time in 24 hours , "you are not in America ".
They call it a hackneyed expression .
Appreciate for learning how to use that big word in it's proper context.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:01am On Mar 30, 2025
bemeruca:
Complain about this
He can't, she is a democrat.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:01am On Mar 30, 2025
bemeruca:
Unless you have been hibernating. Go online and help yourself


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_93FIlDkqk

They hijacked a ship


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7-d30filLE
I asked you specific questions and I've always tried to be civil with you even though you don't offer me the same courtesy.

I'll show more restraint again but only just. Take it exactly as I'm saying it.

Now answer my specific questions and stop posting off-tangent nonsense. I want to prove to you using your own evidence that Yemen honored the peace deal and stopped bombing Israeli ships until they themselves blocked aid to Gaza to reinitiate this war and rather than Trump calling Satanyahu to order, he played fiddle.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:02am On Mar 30, 2025
bemeruca:
Complain about this
He can't, she is a democrat. Another example of democrats accusing you of exactly what they are doing
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:04am On Mar 30, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
He can never do that. It's a lot easier to just call them terrorists and wage war on them while still claiming to value world peace. Once you label someone a terrorist, everything you do and whoever you kill in the process of 'fighting' that terrorist is justified.
Yeah I've noticed the smelly hypocrisy.

What boils my blood is, they see Democrats use same tactics for Trump by calling him Hitler etc and they fight against it but then use same tactics against people they don't like.

Senseless double standards.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by FoolishBoy419: 12:04am On Mar 30, 2025
Android17:
I don't believe Trump is pro-war. That's the only thing I disagree with in this post by the way. I think Trump is realizing bluster and boasting won't solve some of the problems bedeviling America so he is needing to play some of the dirty politics to buy his administration some respite.

This is Miriam Adelson all over. That is why he is asking us to primary Thomas Massie (NEVER) but keep Lindsey F@ggot Graham who has backstabbing Trump at every chance. But he's Israel first so Miriam's $200m to his campaign is why Trump has to play fiddle.

Same with some of his terrible appointments.
Same with allowing Satanyahu perpetuate himself in power by allowing him to hide behind the war.

The problem with dealing with evil people is, they're never satisfied. I've written this bombings down as Trump's biggest mistake in office currently. He will regret it.
We can agree to disagree on Trump. I don't know much about the internal politics of USA and how they influence his decisions. But make no mistake about it, Trump will not stop at Yemen. He'll make ridiculous demands that Iran would reject and then use that as an excuse to attack them on behalf of Israel. I can see that happening
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 12:07am On Mar 30, 2025
Android17:
How did you continue engaging that post after reading the ABC news link that was posted as overwhelming evidence? Incase you skimmed through it, please read it again and confirm for yourself if any one here would believe that story the way it is, if the same claims were made by Russia.

Lavrov asked the UN and it has been 2 years + since then but nobody responded.

- What are the names of the deceased?
- How did they die?
- When did they die?
- What was the motivation for the killings?
- How did NATO sweep through Bucha by April 2nd and not report any massacres, bodies or killings but then report same the very next day?
- How come Ukrainian National Police said they chased out saboteurs and Russian accomplices but never reported the massacres?
- How do we now have videos of Ukrainian forces pulling bodies into position if those were done by Russia?
- How do we have some dead bodies moving hands like the same crisis actors did during COVID?
- Who watched the Video of Ursula supposedly observing the massacre site? She is the poorest actress in the world - far worse than Gal Gadot.


All these, people ignored to conclude Bucha was massacred so they will hold on to the same daft narrative that Zelensky was allowed to back out of a ceasefire.

Take the new position I've settled for this time around. Just post your truth and ignore stupid rebuttals until the same media they still believe in will have to spell out the truth. I always enjoy all the unlooking they have to do.

I saw people post about Bill Maher the other day but nobody brought up the Fauci conversations that were had in that particular episode. Nobody is quoting the same NYT article about all the lies of Fauci and Collins concerning COVID-19. The same NYT they were so quick to quote in 20-21 especially.

Some Ijiot was mentioning me and I ignored b/c why feed a miserable troll? I'm surprised he didn't come back to post when Tim Waltz walked back his Tesla rants shortly after he realized MN pensioners have 1.6m Tesla stock. I could go on and on.
Wow . Thanks I'll save those photos .
Bodies appeared after clearing smiley
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:07am On Mar 30, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
We can agree to disagree on Trump. I don't know much about the internal politics of USA and how they influence his decisions. But make no mistake about it, Trump will not stop at Yemen. He'll make ridiculous demands that Iran would reject and then use that as an excuse to attack them on behalf of Israel. I can see that happening
I know he will attack Iran (and regret it) but I'm saying it is due to Miriam Adelson and Satanyahu and the rest of the Israeli first non-patriots.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Android17: 12:08am On Mar 30, 2025
basilico:
Wow . Thanks I'll save those photos .
Bodies appeared after clearing smiley
After they swept the site oh and chased away saboteurs.

Wetin Musa no go see for gate?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:10am On Mar 30, 2025
nateevs:
Meanwhile Dayo,

Would you like to share which specific dip you bought? I want to check something....
I bought Nvidia at 108

If it falls lower I will buy more

I am loading my guns for April 2 if the tarries come and market crash again
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:12am On Mar 30, 2025
bemeruca:
All this will shoot up. It's just a reaction to the tarriff
Expect another market down on April 2 if tariff goes into play
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:17am On Mar 30, 2025
FoolishBoy419:
Look how fast you've changed from claiming they can destroy Iran to saying they can destroy Iranian nuclear sites. Why do you guys always struggle to stick to one argument? cheesy

The tale about destroying Iranian SAM's is nothing but Israel's claim. They have zero proof and we both know they would have provided evidence if they had it. Iran also claimed to have destroyed several F35 jets in their second attack on Israel— I'm sure you don't believe Iran , but you're quick to treat IDF lies as the gospel. And are you aware that some underground structures can withstand nuclear explosions, assuming Israel manages to locate and dodge Iranian multilayered AD protecting those locations

Israel TRIED unsuccessfully to sabotage Iran's nuclear program. Take note of your word usage. Im willing to bet Iran already has atomic bombs currently unless the Ayotollah is as stupid as he is making himself look on this matter.

Modified

That picture you added came up after Iran had dealt a heavy blow to Israel, and USA was trying to avoid an escalation because they knew they'd certainly have to help them from serious destruction if push gets to shove. Mind you, Israel needed help from several countries, especially USA and Jordan to survive Iran's highly TELEGRAPHED attack. Hell, Israel needed American help to survive Hamas and Hezbollah rockets. I'm sorry to burst your bubble sir, but your darling is not as invincible as you think
I don't want to waste my time arguing with you. You seem ignorant in what's going on.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:20am On Mar 30, 2025
basilico:
He can't, she is a democrat. Another example of democrats accusing you of exactly what they are doing
That's why no one takes them serious
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 12:24am On Mar 30, 2025
IjeBos:
The truth.
I think people's politics reveal a lot about their character, values and faith.
I generally have never asked about politics but have never dated anyone who was anywhere close to MAGA.
In fact the woman have probably been more "social justice" minded than me.
@bold, the absolute truth. I judge people by their politics. I always say that your politics are a reflection of who you are.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca:
Android17:
I asked you specific questions and I've always tried to be civil with you even though you don't offer me the same courtesy.

I'll show more restraint again but only just. Take it exactly as I'm saying it.

Now answer my specific questions and stop posting off-tangent nonsense. I want to prove to you using your own evidence that Yemen honored the peace deal and stopped bombing Israeli ships until they themselves blocked aid to Gaza to reinitiate this war and rather than Trump calling Satanyahu to order, he played fiddle.
I have been civil with you but you don't have to be civil with me just so you know.

Use your head, who are the Housthis fighting against?
The Greek ship they sank? They have destroyed stuff from other countries, kill people from other countries except for Israel.

If they want to fight Israel, they should go and fight Israel.
How do you declare war on every nation and expect them not to bomb you. They stopper when Israel and hamas ceasefire was in effect, SO WHAT?
You are now in support of terrorists?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:32am On Mar 30, 2025
Android17:
This insert is from the link you posted. Make sure you read it slowly. It is from your own link.

Also, sensitive information is not always classified. You'd have to prove you knew the scope of the meeting "if she attended" to know whether she sat in meetings that had classified information. You'd have to also prove she made policy decisions. Remember, you just made the same excuse for Dr. Jill.
I'm trying to understand what you are getting at here.
The whole issue with Hegseth's wife is that he has been taking her to meetings where people have been discussing "sensitive" matters.
Sensitive usually means classified.
No one has claimed Biden had his wife in "sensitive" meetings.

You seem to spend a lot of time trying to rationalize the nonsense Republicans do.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:15am On Mar 30, 2025
Android17:
- Tell us when they did this with evidence.
- Tell us if they ever stopped after the ceasefire deal and which faction broke that ceasefire deal.
10 times they fired ,that I can get easily.During the Biden era of weakness and wokeness.

March 18, 2025 - Houthis claimed their third attack on American warships within 48 hours.
January 17, 2025 - U.S. ships and submarines engaged Houthi missiles at approximately 11:59 p.m. local time.
July 26, 2024 - Houthis launched ballistic missiles targeting U.S. warships in the Red Sea.
October 19, 2023 - The Red Sea crisis began with missile launches at American warships.
December 3, 2023 - Houthis fired ballistic missiles at three commercial ships, including a U.S. warship.
November 15, 2023 - Another missile attack was reported targeting U.S. naval vessels.
September 10, 2023 - Houthis launched missiles during a heightened period of regional tensions.
August 5, 2023 - A missile was fired at a U.S. warship, escalating the conflict.
June 22, 2023 - Houthis targeted American naval forces in the Red Sea.
May 14, 2023 - An attack was reported against U.S. ships, marking a significant escalation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:20am On Mar 30, 2025
IjeBos:
I'm trying to understand what you are getting at here.
The whole issue with Hegseth's wife is that he has been taking her to meetings where people have been discussing "sensitive" matters.
Sensitive usually means classified.
No one has claimed Biden had his wife in "sensitive" meetings.

You seem to spend a lot of time trying to rationalize the nonsense Republicans do.
Hegseth talks in his sleep. Doctor recommended his wife to be aware of what could be in his mind, she was given security clearance to attend every meeting.
Doctor also ordered Hegseth to always sleep when his wife is next to him .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:38am On Mar 30, 2025
But don’t worry guys. He will find another sick black baby to parade as evidence of his “non-racism” while actively trying to erase black history.

On Thursday, Donald Trump signed an executive order targeting the Smithsonian Institution, a behemoth of a research and museum organization that operates more than 20 museum and research centers and is visited by millions of people each year, mainly in Washington DC and New York City. The museums include the National Museum of African Art, the National Portrait Gallery, the National Museum of the American Indian and the National Museum of African American History and Culture (NMAAHC), which Trump name-checked in his executive order. Trump’s executive order instructs JD Vance to “eliminate improper, divisive or anti-American ideology” from the Smithsonian’s museums.

The Smithsonian has already come under scrutiny by Trump and his allies. Earlier this year, the institution was forced to close its diversity office and froze all federal hiring.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
cococandy:
But don’t worry guys. He will find another sick black baby to parade as evidence of his “non-racism” while actively trying to erase black history.
Im positive you may not have noticed that media reporting on every Trump action is always skewed to the negative.Always looking for a ground to throwing a critique. 24/7 .
If he cured cancer using organic eggs ,media would vilify him for bankrupting big pharma and harming egg producers.
I've grown impervious to any main stream media reporting on Trump ,it's always a lie or taken out of context.
Have you heard them praise Elon for bringing back stranded astronauts?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7:
basilico:
Im positive you may not have noticed that media reporting on every Trump action is always skewed to the negative.Always looking for a ground to throwing a critique. 24/7 .
If he cured cancer using organic eggs ,media would vilify him for bankrupting big pharma and harming egg producers.
I've grown impervious to any main stream media reporting on Trump ,it's always a lie or taken out of context.
Have you heard them praise Elon for bringing back stranded astronauts?
If all media outlets are negative about Trump then maybe something is wrong with Trump and not all the media.
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