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delkuf:
the Holy Spirit control a drunkard. That is why jw are devilish

MaxInDHouse:
You don't know the difference between someone who drinks and someone who gets drunk shey?

What a pity!

delkuf:
the end product of drinking alcohol is to get drunk. So can half baked it. You drink then you get drunk

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus ate and drank alcoholic beverages in the presence of critics that's why they called him a glutton (someone who does not fast at all) and drunkard (someone who doesn't detests alcohol)

He never got drunk, with the Holy Spirit he has SELF CONTROL {Galatians 5:22-23} unlike you who can't control yourself!

Gabrielshow24:
Probably, it's due to the fact that your brain is on suspension🤨but you just justified op's statement.

"He never got drunk" means technically the same thing as " he wasn't a drunkard" !!!

Your conflations are really burdensome!
Delkuf, Jesus ate and drank!
Also, like you said he wasn't a drunkard 🙄!!!

MaxInDHouse:
So what do unbelievers like you call those following someone after denying themselves?

tctrills:
Ok let me explain it to you slowly. Self denial is center to worship and it involves the use of your brain not it's abandonment.

MaxInDHouse:
You can never ever understand what this means because Jesus said that's the only thing that makes worshipers of God have the same line of thought. John 17:22
If you can't agree with anyone regarding how to practice Christianity then each of you will start claiming he knows but in God's organization we are One in thought. 1Corinthans 1:10
WHY?
Because when it comes to pure worship we all SUSPENDS the use of our brains to focus on divine instructions!

tctrills:
You pointed to many verses and said many things, but none of these indicate the need to abandon your brain. Please, can you point to that verse in the bible that told you to abandon your brain? Also, why has your governing body refused to abandon their brains? Why is it only the foolish members that are supposed to abandon?

MaxInDHouse:
I'm not interested going in circus with you go and read my previous posts!

tctrills:
Lool. The good thing is that I know your problem. You chose to be brainless. But this has been fun. I have finally been able to analyze you and your problem.

Nnamdipapa:
Max, do not descend to the levels of these people, and never let them get to you. I have noticed your interactions on NL for years and I see emotional maturity and the way you carry yourself, I have yet to see in the average Pentecostal Christian.

Tayorshd87:
Awesome input 💯
That's true logically

Kingsempires:
I know you and I don't agree on the same christain doctrine but I grab point in some of your preaching
I learned something on this your comment

SeniorMan715:
The way you explain and answer questions, sometimes i wonder if truly you are a human or an angel. You know everything.

Questionnaires:
MAXINDHOUSE is The Only Reasonable Christian That I've Come Across On This Forum That Creates Discourse And Debates Without Trying To Hurt The Emotions of Others No Matter How They Don't Agree With His Philosophy.

Questionnaires:
You Are One of The Smartest Christians on Nairaland and in Nigeria At Large.

Zocalite:
JW - the real disciple of Christ as a Christian
Please explain
I followed your convo with the islamic guy, I like it

CJStarz:
Guy, I just dey reason your talks.
U dey make sense shaaa.
But ur oda brethren wey dey yarn opata here, I go soon reason im matter.
You're trying to prove me wrong in my assertion which I'm beginning to see but that guy is a complete wacko.
Wetin be im name here sef.
Let me check

CJStarz:
Na you wey just convert from Islam be d correct Witness.
Achorlady just dey yarn off point

Mayflowa:
Wow! See Bible scholars! So impressive!

naturefellow:
Amazing! Thanks for the input. Knowledge added reading it.

Treborblue:
Wow insightful thanks very much

Jacktheripper:
This sounds particularly interesting.

Sojourner2000:
For real... It's hard answering this when I know for sure that the God we are referring to is just an illusion that most humans chose to accept as a reality.
Anyways I wanted to commend you for the hard facts you have been dropping and how you have been tackling responses. I need people like this in real life. Everyone around me is just dumbed down

MaxInDHouse:
OK thanks so go and tell all these people:

tctrills:
Lol, there you go, not using your brain. What is the purpose of talking to all your fans? how does that improve your position? Oga, at least for the sake of our discussion, use your brain.

MaxInDHouse:
Someone isn't using his brain yet people are commending him for thoughtful comments shey?
Ọmọ you can't curse whom God has blessed! Matthew 5:14-16

tctrills:
Just the same way without your brain, you commend your governing body,

MaxInDHouse:
You can't curse whom God has blessed!

People only commends someone who is able to APPEAL to their senses so you are wrong it's the qualities we noticed in the GOVERNING BODY that made millions to attach ourselves to them:

“This is what Jehovah of armies says, ‘In those days ten men out of all the languages of the nations will take hold, yes, they will take firm hold of the robe of a Jew, saying: “We want to go with you, for we have heard that God is with you people.”’" Zechariah 8:23

This is what Jesus meant when his disciples asked him "where will people living in the last days find divine guidance?"

Jesus said:

“Where the BODY is, there also the EAGLES will be gathered together.” Luke 17:37

Wise people (EAGLES) throughout the earth gather to eat spiritual food from the GOVERNING (BODY) of Jehovah's Witnesses.

Let it be known among all rebellious humans like you!

tctrills:
You are right in a way, like minds appeal to themselves. So if you have abandoned your brain, what kind of people would appeal to you?
I am sure you know the answer.

DaddyCoool:
This is so hilarious I'm speechless! I Honestly don't know where to start😆

DaddyCoool:
1. We're talking scientific probability NOT driving to the market! When we do 2+2 in our everyday decimal system, are there a range of possible answers or just one answer??

DaddyCoool:
2. Like I've said a million times "logical" for our purposes here means "makes sense from perspective of our everyday macro life and follows it's logical pattern". That someone can appear on the opposite side of a wall he shouldn't be able to pass through is ILLOGICAL from our everyday perspective. The logic is: A can't pass through B, therefore A can't appear on the other side of B. Anything beyond that is illogical from our EVERYDAY perspective!

DaddyCoool:
3. Einstein simply viewed QM from perspective of our classical everyday life NOT that he couldn't find some mathematical formulary to justify it

DaddyCoool:
4. In our everyday classical life we don't observe something weird and then start searching for mathematics to justify it. If you twist around enough and add enough constants you can find mathematics to justify anything - instead of just admiting it makes no sense!

DaddyCoool:
5. I only used QM to illustrate that the tiniest building blocks of our universe behave so weirdly that nobody really knows for sure what's going on (except you!).
I CHOOSE to believe that my thoughts can create reality - which nobody can prove or disprove, it's a matter of belief!

DaddyCoool:
6. Nobody fully understands QM but you produce all sorts of mathematical equations to prove you fully understand it and it's all simple and logical!

DaddyCoool:
7. We're talking everyday NL logic - if A means the dog is alive and B means the dog is dead, then A and B cannot be true at the same time!

MaxInDHouse:
Now you are talking because i quote the scriptures each time i make a statement making you guys feel uncomfortable but when it comes to pure worship i do nothing out of my own initiative! John 5:30

DaddyCoool:
Christ was quoting the Bible from his own thoughts. You quote like a parrot, repeating what you're told and never deviating from it!

MaxInDHouse:
Continue deceiving yourself!

tctrills:
Lol you that they have used is brain and destiny is claiming that I am deceiving myself.

FiveFootNinja:
You can start anywhere you like. It won't matter anyway because I already know from a brief look that this response will be mid again. 🤷🏽



For crying out loud you're so full of shít. You literally asked me "Is our everyday life probabilistic?", but now in your typical dishonest fashion of post hoc revisionism, you're now claiming you were talking about scientific probability. Are you always an awful liar, or is it only with regards to academic discussions, because I don't understand how someone can be so repeatedly dishonest over and over again. It's making it really hard for me to respect you or take your comments seriously in this conversation.

Coming to your newly edited question about decimal systems, the answer is still a big fat YES.

2+2 = 4 is already defined axiomatically within a closed number system, so it's disingenuous to think that you can compare or apply it to probability distributions. They're not the same thing.

Also, mathematics deals with numbers and shapes (geometry). Those things are abstract. Our physical world deals with observation, hypothesis, experiments and so on. The physical world and the world of maths don't operate on the same level of certainty.

If two of us are playing ludo, and you roll your dice, you'll probably be betting on getting a 6 or at least a 5, since you want to win. Now tell me, from your own perspective, would you call the outcome of this dice roll a certainty or a probability?



The only thing you've asserted here is that anything that does not conform to your limited imagination is illogical. And it's such a breathtakingly ignorant statement when you consider it in the context of how vast and diverse our universe is and how much we still don't know about it that scientists are still discovering till this very day. So until you put on your big boy (abi big girl) pants and answer my question about which system of logic you're using for your claim, your definition will simply continue to remain worthless, for as many times as you as you want to repeat it. It didn't add up then and it's still not adding up now.



His main concern was the physics behind the whole thing - the non-locality and probabilistic nature of QM. And he was worried because determinism and locality were very fundamental to his work on relativity.



And yet this is exactly what scientists do! 😂

They observe strange phenomena and use the scientific methodologies to get a better understanding behind the occurrences they've observed.

The reason we can understand the science behind stuff like rainfalls, hurricanes, thunder and lightning etc is because scientists didn't just sit on their ass and attribute them to magic.

When Newton discovered gravity, he wasn't just fooling around. He was crafting his theories based on patterns he observed.

If scientists didn't come to the knowledge of electromagnetism and semiconductor physics to be able to design laptops and mobile phones, I probably wouldn't even know of your existence, let alone sit here and read your terrible arguments. 🤧



Need I remind you (again) that YOU were the one who sent us tumbling down this endless rabbit hole of baseless arguments when you started claiming with so much confidence that our thoughts create reality? If you want to believe that thoughts create reality, then na you sabi. It's your world, not mine. But if you're going to try and generalize your belief or present it as an objective truth, then you should be prepared to answer for it to the very last detail.

Now ever since I took you to task for that claim (plus your illogicality claim), you've slowly backpedalled and revised your argument over and over again, until you've now pitifully reached the point of claiming mystery to the inner workings of the universe. If you really don't know, then what the fúck are you still dragging in this conversation?

Meanwhile I'm still waiting for you to tell us according to which system of logic is the universe is illogical. Maybe if you can answer that question, then we'll make some progress instead of having us run around in circles for nothing.



I never said I fully understood QM. But I know enough to know that your knowledge on it is incomplete.



What of other systems of logic where principles of entanglement and superposition may apply? Are you confident that such systems of logic don't exist? Think carefully.

She talk say na "everyday NL (Nairaland) logic". Nothing wey person no go read for this forum. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

DaddyCoool:
You can't actually read the NT and Bible in general and think Jesus is fiction. Impossible. People that produced such profound teachings would produce other works. Where are they? Plus Jesus is alive in people's lives today, and the only name demons fear in spiritual warfare. Explain that

DaddyCoool:
Yet they invented him. See how you're not making any sense?

MaxInDHouse:
Just as Jesus used the brain of his friends and destiny shey?

tctrills:
Oga you and you group are nothing like Jesus. But the funny thing is that you will never know you are being used. It was only yesterday that I got to understand that you are the victim here.
I honestly sympathize. It will n ver go well with your evil overlords

MaxInDHouse:
Why not curse Jesus who told humans like you:

“If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake day after day and keep following me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake is the one who will save it." Luke 9:23-24

And they surely ABANDONED everything behind to follow him:

Then Peter said in reply: “Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Ọmọ you're just a faithless miscreant if you don't know today is your salvation day to know that you are faithless!

MaxInDHouse:
Why not curse Jesus who told humans like you:

“If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake day after day and keep following me. For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake is the one who will save it." Luke 9:23-24

And they surely ABANDONED everything behind to follow him:

Then Peter said in reply: “Look! We have left all things and followed you; what, then, will there be for us?” Matthew 19:27

Ọmọ you're just a faithless miscreant if you don't know today is your salvation day to know that you are faithless!

FiveFootNinja:
You can start anywhere you like. It won't matter anyway because I already know from a brief look that this response will be mid again. 🤷🏽



For crying out loud you're so full of shít. You literally asked me "Is our everyday life probabilistic?", but now in your typical dishonest fashion of post hoc revisionism, you're now claiming you were talking about scientific probability. Are you always an awful liar, or is it only with regards to academic discussions, because I don't understand how someone can be so repeatedly dishonest over and over again. It's making it really hard for me to respect you or take your comments seriously in this conversation.

MaxInDHouse:
Madam wan lie she don catch herself!

Christ was quoting the scriptures from his own thoughts!

So when he said:

“It is written: ‘Man must live, not on bread alone, but on every word that comes from Jehovah’s mouth.’” Matthew 4:4

He was quoting scriptures of his own volition, not regurgitating selections approved by anybody


Was he quoting his own thoughts or the things WRITTEN in God's word like a parrot repeating what he was told and never deviating from it? Deuteronomy 8:3

Madam this one pass your level!