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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 5:17am On Apr 03, 2025
IjeBos:
Not on twitter, but saw some posts about it on BlueSky.
The incompetence of the administration is staggering.

None of it makes sense.
If you think deeper about it all it falls apart.
Like making money from tariffs to get rid of Fed taxes.

You can't both want to make money from tariffs and also use tariffs to repatriate production. Because if they repatriate production, then they won't make any money off of tariffs.
it is all performative for the sheep who will swallow anything .they know it is all bullshit. do you think musk can present doge style results to tesla shareholders in a board meeting?

"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past"
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:20am On Apr 03, 2025
GloriousGbola:
https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/01/politics/maryland-father-mistakenly-deported-el-salvador-prison/index.html

A simple Google search is all that is required

It is fortunate you aren't actually in the US. Because unlike these victims there are so many legitimate things to Deport a slimy scumbag like you to an unregulated prison for
From fraud to child abuse to being an all round waste of space cheesy.

No one would be crying for you - because you would be fully deserving of any misery meted our to you.

I mean - the only place where your absence would be even noticed is here - no more beta cuck clown sucking on my dick every other moment tongue

There but for the grace of God goes you - if you were actually in the states and not a clown cos playing at being a network engineer with a range rover cheesy cheesy

A dunce quoting another dunce quoting an easily discredited rag for dunes.

How soon before you sunken place house niggers start giving us quotes from stormfront? cheesy cheesy
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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:26am On Apr 03, 2025
IjeBos:
I can't figure out if you're playing stupid or you just really are.
I generally don't watch news, I do do a ton of reading.

The simple quesiton is, did Musk actually find the fraud, waste and cost savings they actually said they did?
And DOGE's site only tells us what they "claim" they found.
I'm personally not going to spend hours and days going through each claimed savings.
But the NYTimes and NPR did.
And they both wrote good investigative pieces detailing all the contracts Musk said he saved money by cutting.
Both pieces found a lot of what Musk claimed were lies or distortions.
They laid out the claim from their website, found the contract and actually showed whether it had been cancelled, was already cancelled or didn't add up to the savings Musk said.

If you aren't a paid troll which you may be, at some point in life you are going to have to learn to consume information where you are being skeptical about the sources.
Your political bias makes you embrace lies while shutting out good sources of information.
You do a ton of reading?
Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. Yet you voted for Kamala Harris?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:35am On Apr 03, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
The Tariff rates are made up and they slammed Tariffs on Heard and McDonald's Island which has no human habitation and is only inhabited by Penguins. grin

This administration is filled with incompetent Buffons who cannot make basic research.

A cesspool. Yuck.🤢🤮
The same X thread debunks the theory it's peddling.
How do you people survive carrying that much hate inside you. Never having anything to look forward to.
You'll be looking 60 by the time you hit 35. Get your children quickly before you get to that age.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
Pdpguy congratulations on the 5000th page of this thread smiley
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:24am On Apr 03, 2025
I guess it only takes a near death experience for a MAGAt to learn. We are thankful Mike Pence’s eyes are open now but too little too damn late.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola:
cococandy:
Pdpguy congratulations on page 5000th of this thread smiley
gloriousg wuz ere and i saw the beginning of the end of an empire and the birthing of a new world order

america did a fantastic job of selling itself throughout the cold war. anyone who did not grow up in a country directly affected by US policies [iran, south chile, vietnam, south africa ] saw america as a shining beacon of hope and freedom whose leaders and people would always be the heroes in any story.

the first cracks appeared in the 2000s when america invaded iraq.
then in covid where, rather than step up to the plate, we saw a bunch of aggressive crybabies who would not sit in place

that was the republicans as well.

now in 2024, Donald trump and maga are finishing the job

the rest of the world will have to move on is all.

the meme is now reality

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 6:40am On Apr 03, 2025
LoLz. Bemeruca remember when you said the tariffs were for cars only. Bwahahahahahaha!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 6:43am On Apr 03, 2025
I wonder how this plays if Trump goes on unchecked.

In 20 years will these people here supporting him now be able to look their kids in the eyes and tell them they supported the downfall of what should have been a great nation that they could’ve thrived in.

Will they slither away quietly, change monikers and pretend they never supported this?

Time will tell.

Bookmarking this page.

GloriousGbola:
gloriousg wuz ere and i saw the beginning of the end of an empire and the birthing of a new world order

america did a fanatic job of selling itself throughout the cold war. anyone who did not grow up in a country directly affected by US policies [iran, south chile, vietnam south africa ] saw america as a shining beacon of hope and freedom.

the first cracks appeared in the 2000s when america invaded iraq.
then in covid where, rather than step up to the plate, we saw a bunch of aggressive crybabies who would not sit in place

that was the republicans as well.

now in 2024, Donald trump and maga are finishing the job

the rest of the world will have to move in is all.

the meme is now reality
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:50am On Apr 03, 2025
cococandy:
I guess it only takes a near death experience for a MAGAt to learn. We are thankful Mike Pence’s eyes are open now but too little too damn late.
If the base tariffs are bad why are countries rushing to slash import tariffs to US products.

Switzerland. To slash 99%
Israel To eliminate most
Vietnam Same

Others are threatening counter measures while demanding the tariffs be cancelled.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:10am On Apr 03, 2025
cococandy:
I wonder how this plays if Trump goes on unchecked.

In 20 years will these people here supporting him now be able to look their kids in the eyes and tell them they supported the downfall of what should have been a great nation that they could’ve thrived in.

Will they slither away quietly, change monikers and pretend they never supported this?

Time will tell.

Bookmarking this page.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZpMJeynBeg?si=_o0ULM2J0oQFXC-i

Trump been saying other countries are ripping them off. Japanese selling them cars, VCRs etc but it's difficult to sell America products there.
Oprah looked smitten I must add.

WH explains
https://youtube.com/shorts/qZpaMUJNkU4?si=UaZgY9b9YnB3ndEi
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 7:44am On Apr 03, 2025
basilico:
If the base tariffs are bad why are countries rushing to slash import tariffs to US products.

Switzerland. To slash 99%
Israel To eliminate most
Vietnam Same

Others are threatening counter measures while demanding the tariffs be cancelled.
Where did you see that Vietnam was eliminating most of its tariffs on US imports?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by PDPGuy(op): 8:04am On Apr 03, 2025
cococandy:
Pdpguy congratulations on the 5000th page of this thread smiley
Yes oh

We all did it 😁
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:40am On Apr 03, 2025
LordReed:
Where did you see that Vietnam was eliminating most of its tariffs on US imports?
They thought orange man bad was joking.

8 days ago.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vietnam-to-cut-tariffs-on-u-s-imports-as-trump-tariff-decision-looms/ar-AA1BEUJD
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:42am On Apr 03, 2025
cococandy:
I wonder how this plays if Trump goes on unchecked.

In 20 years will these people here supporting him now be able to look their kids in the eyes and tell them they supported the downfall of what should have been a great nation that they could’ve thrived in.

Will they slither away quietly, change monikers and pretend they never supported this?

Time will tell.

Bookmarking this page.
If the US market is closed or drastically cut , I'll look for financiers to buy ex factory equipment from China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 8:46am On Apr 03, 2025
basilico:
They thought orange man bad was joking.

8 days ago.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/news/vietnam-to-cut-tariffs-on-u-s-imports-as-trump-tariff-decision-looms/ar-AA1BEUJD
You said ELIMINATE most of its tariffs, the article doesn't say that at all.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 9:02am On Apr 03, 2025
basilico:
If the US market is closed or drastically cut , I'll look for financiers to buy ex factory equipment from China.
you were ordering solar panels from the us before ?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 9:34am On Apr 03, 2025
IjeBos:
That's how it works.
Saw this post of Americans feelings toward Canada and Europe.
Amazing.
If Americans can change their minds on something based on one person views this quickly Education may become a National Defense issue.
Between 20-30 of all Americans believe the earth is flat. What do you expect?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 9:34am On Apr 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
I am enjoying Trump administration, you are wailing about eggs

Hahaha
That’s why you get triggered like that. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 9:57am On Apr 03, 2025
Life !
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 10:00am On Apr 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
Lemme buy and send to you.
Tariff egg shocked
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 10:04am On Apr 03, 2025
bemeruca:
Raumdeuter give the truth, you gave half truth = lie.

Just like ijebos peddled the lie about administrative error, claiming truth deported a Maryland dad lie
What is this one saying?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:25am On Apr 03, 2025
GloriousGbola:
you were ordering solar panels from the us before ?
I get panels, inverters and batteries from China.
Means I'll get Tier 1 battery cells cheaper , they have less market to sell to
In a crisis there is always a beneficiary.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
LordReed:
You said ELIMINATE most of its tariffs, the article doesn't say that at all.
Semantics aside. They know their pockets will be hit, so they have to attempt deals with the master of "The Art of the Deal".

Nike gets it's apparels from Vietnam.
They will have to move to America. What does Vietnamese do with the plant and unsold stock.
Think big. Naija would be a good market for those products and machinery
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:30am On Apr 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
I am enjoying Trump administration, you are wailing about eggs

Hahaha

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 10:41am On Apr 03, 2025
Matters arising.
Canada ready to drop to zero tarrif if America does.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 10:52am On Apr 03, 2025
descarado:
Matters arising.
Canada ready to drop to zero tarrif if America does.
Caveat .
Canada has aluminum and steel . They have to do it there from smelting plants . Otherwise Canada and Mexico have been hosting Chinese shops, who then sell to America duty free.
In an earlier order , Trump EO stated that every auto part has to be made in Mexico or Canada to attract 12.5% tariff. If any part of the car is imported then assembled there, it attracts another 25% . If Customs determine that many parts were imported but assembled in Canada or Mexico, the whole car is tariffed at 25%
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
Once in a life opportunity.
Grok tells me.

In the wake of President Trump's "Liberation Day" tariffs, announced on April 2, 2025, imports from China to the United States will face a total tariff rate of 54%. This figure comes from a combination of existing tariffs and the newly imposed reciprocal tariffs. Specifically, the new policy includes a 34% reciprocal tariff on Chinese imports, which is added to the 20% tariff that was already in place from earlier measures during Trump's second term. These tariffs are part of a broader strategy to address trade imbalances and boost U.S. manufacturing, with the 34% reciprocal rate effective as of April 9, 2025, on top of the pre-existing 20%.
There wil be serious glut in products that suddenly won't have any buyers in America.
How does one take advantage. From toothpicks, handkerchiefs , electronics Chinese manufacturers will have products they can't sell. High quality products unlike say SQNY ( SONY), imitations Africa gets from China.
I'll cash in somehow. Where there is a will there is way and God never sleeps.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
This is why AI will replace you if you don't master it. This would have taken days to compute but Grok only took a few seconds.

Question
What's the total value of imports to America. Better yet in the new tariff structure country based I'm sure you can compute the revenues to be raised per each country per tariff . Just do it for top 10 country exporters to America

Answer
Based on the latest available trade data and the new tariff structure announced under President Trump's "Liberation Day" tariffs effective as of April 9, 2025, I’ll compute the total value of imports to the United States from the top 10 exporting countries and the estimated tariff revenues based on their respective tariff rates. The current date is April 3, 2025, and I’ll use 2024 import figures as the most recent full-year data, adjusted for the new tariff policies where applicable.
Total Value of Imports to the U.S.
In 2024, the total value of U.S. goods imports was approximately $3.2 trillion, according to the U.S. Bureau of Economic Analysis and Census Bureau data. This serves as the baseline for our calculations.
Top 10 Exporters to the U.S. (2024 Data)
Here are the top 10 countries exporting goods to the U.S. in 2024, based on available trade statistics, along with their import values and the applicable tariff rates under the new structure:
China: $536.3 billion
Tariff: 54% (20% existing + 34% reciprocal tariff effective April 9, 2025)

Mexico: $454.8 billion
Tariff: 25% (announced February 2025, effective March 4, 2025, no change noted for April)

Canada: $436.6 billion
Tariff: 25% (announced February 2025, effective March 4, 2025, no change noted for April)

Germany: $146.6 billion
Tariff: 20% (applied to EU countries under the new tariff hike)

Japan: $148.1 billion
Tariff: 24% (specific rate cited in recent policy updates)

South Korea: $131.5 billion (estimated from prior trends)
Tariff: 10% (baseline for non-specified countries under broad tariff threats)

Vietnam: $142.5 billion (estimated from growth trends)
Tariff: 46% (specific high rate cited for smaller nations in some analyses)

India: $104.2 billion (estimated from prior trends)
Tariff: 10% (baseline for non-specified countries)

Taiwan: $102.8 billion (estimated from prior trends)
Tariff: 10% (baseline for non-specified countries)

Italy: $78.5 billion (estimated from prior trends)
Tariff: 20% (applied to EU countries)

Tariff Revenue Calculations
Tariff revenue is calculated as:
Revenue = Import Value × Tariff Rate
China:
$536.3 billion × 54% = $289.602 billion

Mexico:
$454.8 billion × 25% = $113.7 billion

Canada:
$436.6 billion × 25% = $109.15 billion

Germany:
$146.6 billion × 20% = $29.32 billion

Japan:
$148.1 billion × 24% = $35.544 billion

South Korea:
$131.5 billion × 10% = $13.15 billion

Vietnam:
$142.5 billion × 46% = $65.55 billion

India:
$104.2 billion × 10% = $10.42 billion

Taiwan:
$102.8 billion × 10% = $10.28 billion

Italy:
$78.5 billion × 20% = $15.7 billion

Total Tariff Revenue from Top 10
Summing these values:
$289.602B + $113.7B + $109.15B + $29.32B + $35.544B + $13.15B + $65.55B + $10.42B + $10.28B + $15.7B = $692.416 billion
Notes
China’s Tariff: The 54% reflects the pre-existing 20% tariff from Trump’s second term plus the new 34% reciprocal tariff announced on April 2, 2025.

Mexico and Canada: The 25% rate was implemented in March 2025, with no further changes noted by April.

EU Countries (Germany, Italy): A 20% tariff applies as part of the EU-wide hike.

Japan and Vietnam: Specific rates (24% and 46%) are drawn from policy mentions, reflecting targeted adjustments.

Others (South Korea, India, Taiwan): A 10% baseline is assumed where specific rates aren’t detailed, aligning with Trump’s broad tariff threats.

These figures assume no significant import volume changes post-tariff imposition, though in reality, trade substitution or retaliation could adjust these revenues over time.

This yields an estimated $692.42 billion in tariff revenue from the top 10 exporters, a significant portion of the potential $1 trillion+ from all U.S. imports if fully applied across all trading partners.
There you go. Trump tariffs on the top 10 countries exporting to Uncle Sam stands to raise $692 B in a year. Thats cheap change to me , I must add. Only $692B and Trump is vaccilating about increased revenues?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 11:42am On Apr 03, 2025
basilico:
Semantics aside. They know their pockets will be hit, so they have to attempt deals with the master of "The Art of the Deal".

Nike gets it's apparels from Vietnam.
They will have to move to America. What does Vietnamese do with the plant and unsold stock.
Think big. Naija would be a good market for those products and machinery
LoLz. He thinks the tariffs will offset the wage cost of operating in the US.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 11:52am On Apr 03, 2025
basilico:
There you go. Trump tariffs on the top 10 countries exporting to Uncle Sam stands to raise $692 B in a year. Thats cheap change to me , I must add. Only $692B and Trump is vaccilating about increased revenues?
That's $692 bln raised from the American consumer offset by some demand destruction

In Dave Chappelle voice, "we like Nike trainers but we don't wanna make those shits. Keep those shits in China where it belongs".

In other words there are some products (majority of everyday products) that are just too cheap to insource. Only higher end automated engineering will relocate production (cars, chemicals etc). The hike in the rest of everyday products (clothing, food, niknaks) will be borne by the consumer
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 11:56am On Apr 03, 2025
Ibime:
That's $692 bln raised from the American consumer offset by some demand destruction

In Dave Chappelle voice, "we like Nike trainers but we don't wanna make those shits. Keep those shits in China where it belongs".

In other words there are some products (majority of everyday products) that are just too cheap to insource. Only higher end automated engineering will relocate production (cars, chemicals etc). The hike in the rest of everyday products (clothing, food, niknaks) will be borne by the consumer
Who said prices won't rise. Those Americans spent $18.7 Trillion last year purchasing consumer goods and services Still low. 3.7% increase
Get me some prices of Growatt hybrid inverters 5-15KW from UK after a few weeks if status quo remains.
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