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Maeve7:
You people will kill me with laughter here.

Maybe he put tariffs on their eggs. Now American chickens are pleased, will lay more eggs and prices will finally drop. MAGA

cococandy:
Would you be saying this if a Democrat was causing this huge financial disaster?

It should be clear to anyone who’s still genuinely in the middle to see how much of a shape shifting problem you guys have on the right.

Christmas came early. For whom? 🤔

2018. Chuck Schumer after Trump proposed tariffs on China.

Like many Democrats, he speaks a little differently when he's not on MSNBC or CNN.pic.twitter.com/NKwnp93hJg

— MAZE (@mazemoore) April 2, 2025

A 1996 video resurfaces of Nancy Pelosi discussing tariffs and the trade deficit with China.pic.twitter.com/z5i6IGnvmZ

— Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) April 3, 2025

🔥MUST WATCH: In 2008, Obama fiercely attacked free trade deals, labeling NAFTA as a Wall Street scam designed to enrich corporations at the expense of American workers.

He called these deals an “enormous problem” that "shut down factories" and "devastated entire American… pic.twitter.com/ksVf2obLOD

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) April 3, 2025

raumdeuter:
These are videos of Democratic leaders hailing tariffs in the past

Chuck Schumer here
"China has been taking advantage of us for 2 decades, They are stealing out Intellectual property and stealing and our jobs and I am closer to Trump on this issue than with Bush and Obama because they didn't do nothing. I am looking at jobs, If GE moves jobs to China they've not unhappy but my New York workers are unhappy, you have to do what's good for American workers"

2018. Chuck Schumer after Trump proposed tariffs on China.

Like many Democrats, he speaks a little differently when he's not on MSNBC or CNN.pic.twitter.com/NKwnp93hJg

— MAZE (@mazemoore) April 2, 2025

Nancy Pelosi here

A 1996 video resurfaces of Nancy Pelosi discussing tariffs and the trade deficit with China.pic.twitter.com/z5i6IGnvmZ

— Thomas Sowell Quotes (@ThomasSowell) April 3, 2025

Barack Obama here
"NAFTA has been a mistake, trade relationship with China is a problem. We need trade deals that worked for working people. If you travel through Youngstown and through my state of Illinois you will see entire cities that have been devastated with trade deals"

🔥MUST WATCH: In 2008, Obama fiercely attacked free trade deals, labeling NAFTA as a Wall Street scam designed to enrich corporations at the expense of American workers.

He called these deals an “enormous problem” that "shut down factories" and "devastated entire American… pic.twitter.com/ksVf2obLOD

— KanekoaTheGreat (@KanekoaTheGreat) April 3, 2025

IjeBos:
I hope this is just your typical Intellectual Dishonesty.

People were hailing targeted tariffs on countries(China) abusing their trade with the US..
Not a universal tariff based on Bullshit AI generated calculations.

bemeruca:
When trump specifically target China in his first term, you guys were still crying. Keep your homo excuses to yourself you are not fooling anyone.

IjeBos:
I hope this is just your typical Intellectual Dishonesty.
People were hailing targeted tariffs on countries(China) abusing their trade with the US..
Not a universal tariff based on Bullshit AI generated calculations.

Bernie Sanders WANTED TARIFFS in 2008

Bernie Sanders said not having Tariffs in America means all our manufacturing goes overseas and it’s the same thing as giving corporations the “freedom to throw American workers out on the street”

What changed?!?pic.twitter.com/lCYHgL2cW8

— Wall Street Apes (@WallStreetApes) April 3, 2025

bemeruca:
When Trump specifically targeted China in his first term, you guys were still crying. Keep your homo excuses to yourself you are not fooling anyone.

ObaIgwe1:
Bro. Please find another punchline apart from this your homo homo homo line. It's not just stale, it's now nauseating. Abeg this is not sexuality section.

bemeruca:
I know 🤣

IjeBos:
Manipulating posts like that should be bannable.

ObaIgwe1:
Bro. Please find another punchline apart from this your homo homo homo line. It's not just stale, it's now nauseating. Abeg this is not sexuality section.

raumdeuter:
Which of the Trump tariffs have you not wailed about?

Anyone putting a tariff on America should not complain when America puts its own tariffs back

IjeBos:
What tariffs did the penguins put on America?

IjeBos:
Manipulating posts like that should be bannable.

ObaIgwe1:
Bro. Please find another punchline apart from this your homo homo homo line. It's not just stale, it's now nauseating. Abeg this is not sexuality section.

SpaceX:
why are you shying away from your identity? Or you are gayphobia! Be honest!

SpaceX:
Sex is overrated Abeg, wetin sweet inside self?

cococandy:
That’s the default tactic when trolls don’t have anything tangible to say🫢. Their hope is that the person will get distracted and start trying to defend whatever asinine claims the troll is making and in the process might lay off on showing the world how stupid the troll is.

With bemeruca once you’re hitting a spot he can’t defend (and that’s often) he will resort to ad hominem so that you can lay off on him. I’m glad IjeBos is not relenting. It doesn’t even take too much to expose how feeble his stances are.

IjeBos:
What tariffs did the penguins put on America?

raumdeuter:
When Trump placed tariffs on China did you not wailing as you are doing now?

IjeBos:
Any American should be freaking out that US is currently being run by incompetent people.
Trump's biggest policy that has wiped out trillions of US wealth was predicated on Bullshit Calculations.

IjeBos:
What tariffs did the US Military base which is the sole occupant of The British Indian Ocean Territory put on America?
You keep defending incompetence like your life depends on it.

Slytiger:
It's even simpler than that actually.

Sensitive consumers to higher prices = 4.
How likely are prices to increase = 0.25

IjeBos:
Any American should be freaking out that US is currently being run by incompetent people.
Trump's biggest policy that has wiped out trillions of US wealth was predicated on Bullshit Calculations.

When President Donald Trump began yesterday’s announcement of the White House’s latest trade policy brandishing a novelty-sized cardboard sign labeled “Reciprocal Tariffs,” the immediate and nearly unanimous response was bafflement. Trump slapped a 10 percent baseline tariff on all imports into the US, including from uninhabited islands, plus absurdly high rates on specific countries, supposedly based on “tariffs charged to the USA” — which didn’t match up to other, non-cardboard-sign-based estimates. Stock markets have plummeted and consumers are facing down sharp price hikes on potentially almost everything they buy.

Where did these numbers come from? Apparently, an oversimplified calculation that several major AI chatbots happen to recommend.

Economist James Surowiecki quickly reverse-engineered a possible explanation for the tariff pricing. He found you could recreate each of the White House’s numbers by simply taking a given country’s trade deficit with the US and dividing it by their total exports to the US. Halve that number, and you get a ready-to-use “discounted reciprocal tariff.” The White House objected to this claim and published the formula it says that it used, but as Politico points out, the formula looks like a dressed-up version of Surowiecki’s method.

In case you weren’t sure, Surowiecki calls this approach “extraordinary nonsense.” So why did Trump’s team use it? Well, like plenty of people who’ve realized their homework is due in three hours’ time, it seems like they may have been tempted by AI.

A number of X users have realized that if you ask ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude, or Grok for an “easy” way to solve trade deficits and put the US on “an even playing field”, they’ll give you a version of this “deficit divided by exports” formula with remarkable consistency. The Verge tested this with the phrasing used in those posts, as well as a question based more closely on the government’s language, asking chatbots for “an easy way for the US to calculate tariffs that should be imposed on other countries to balance bilateral trade deficits between the US and each of its trading partners, with the goal of driving bilateral trade deficits to zero.” All four platforms gave us the same fundamental suggestion.

There is some variation. Grok and Claude specifically suggested halving the tariff figure to generate what Grok calls a “reasonable” result, much like Trump’s “discount” idea. Ask for a 10 percent baseline tariff and the systems also disagree on whether that should be added to the total tariff rate or not. But answers from across the four chatbots have more similarities than differences.

The bots caution with varying levels of seriousness that there are tradeoffs and complications. Gemini, the most strident of them, will give you a page full of explanations as to why this oversimplified approach could backfire — “while this calculation offers a seemingly straightforward way to target bilateral trade deficits, the real-world economic implications are far more complex and could lead to substantial negative consequences,” it warns, adding that “many economists argue that tariffs are not an effective tool for balancing trade deficits.”

We don’t know that Trump’s team turned to an AI tool to generate global trade policy on the fly. Since chatbots are regurgitating information from training data, it’s also not clear how they arrived at this particular formula. But regardless of how the tariffs were devised, the world will be watching to see if they come into effect starting April 5th — and, if they’re implemented, what the Trump team’s back-of-the-napkin math will do to global trade.