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Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:10pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Read and meditate on Philippians 2:8-9

This is what i've been telling you since nah! smiley

It's after his successful earthly mission that he was given that APPELLATION! wink
Cannot address the misconstrued then deflect into another lies and manipulations of his already debunked
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:12pm On Apr 06, 2025
Emusan:
You think I'm dull like you.

The statement read "as a spirit in heaven and AS A HUMAN ON EARTH"

Which means He has been The Word in heaven before coming to Earth and continuing being The Word on earth.

The is the same way AI put check it very well

Only a dull and unrepentant lying will twist a plain text
The liar and manipulator cannot desist from his ways cheesy grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:13pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
When did he became a human on earth?
And when was that appellation known among humans?
More irrelevant question to divert into his madness and insanities peddling
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:14pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So it's AI that's teaching you! huh

Please what does your AI say about Creation story, Adam and Eve in Eden and Noah's Ark? cheesy
Your WEREY peddling brains brother Janosky was using AI as truth over your religious organization publications cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:15pm On Apr 06, 2025
Emusan:
No! AI only EXPLAINED Watchtower teaching.

And it's more knowledgeable than you.

So, if you accuse me of misconstrued Watchtower, does AI also misconstrue Watchtower?



AI will tell you about Creation, Adam & Eve according to creationists perspective.

You think AI will say Creation is a myth or uphold Evolution over God's Creation cheesy grin cheesy grin

Meanwhile, your disagreement with both your organization and AI is evident that you're a chronicle liar.

Your claim first was that, that name was GIVEN TO JESUS ONLY AFTER HIS MISSION ON EARTH.

But Watchtower claimed Jesus has been "The WORD as a spirit IN HEAVEN and as a HUMAN ON EARTH."

The phrase "...AS A HUMAN ON EARTH" means while Jesus was on earth.

Jesus' mission on earth completed after resurrection and you as a JWs never believe Jesus remains human after resurrection.

But you want to make us believe that Jesus being the Word AS A HUMAN ON EARTH is still after Jesus' mission.

You're too dull.

Either Watchtower is wrong that Jesus has been the Word "...as a HUMAN ON EARTH" or you're the liar who try to shift the goal post here.
Chronic liar
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:17pm On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
So far one thing has been proven, that is, Max is a pathological liar!

He only uses things that fit his present narrative 🤦🏾‍♂️
I cannot imagine him as one of the elders in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses cheesy grin grin

He will go far in their midst with this tendency to lie and manipulate. A perfect attribute of those their GODS of men housed in USA wants. He will readily bend anything to fit the narrative they want him without his conscience pinching him.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:18pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
So the machine can teach you what you need to know but can't practice it shey?

Why did you think Jesus need to be human so we can learn through his actions? cheesy
Still DEFLECTING. cheesy grin grin JAGABAN is a name you know cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:18pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Na wah o, i left you with the atheist on the other thread only for you to come here again stalking me! cheesy
As if you no be waka you waka come thread. Na your thread abi?
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:19pm On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Wetin concern me with you!

By the way, I sent your atheist to go do his homework that's the difference between me and you 🤨.
Looool!
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:21pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You are the one misconstruing what we teach!
Jesus served as God's spokesman in the heavens but that title has nothing to do with mankind until he came here to prove it by doing the same thing {John 17:8-9} it's after his successful earthly mission that he QUALIFIED to be called THE WORD both in heaven and on earth.

That's what Paul is saying in the Bible book of Philippians 2:8-9; Hebrews 1:1-2

You're only bent on attacking me in person instead of humbly asking for the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of our beliefs! smiley
Your madness and insanities peddling brains cannot save you cheesy grin grin grin

Jesus served as God's spokesman in the heavens but that title has nothing to do with mankind until he came here to prove it by doing the same thing {John 17:8-9}
Until he came from heaven to prove that he is indeed the Word of God that he bears before coming to the earth.


Manipulations and lies don take over your brains. English self dey laugh you.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:24pm On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
All these years👀 you haven't advanced one bit, you are still as redundant as ever! Shame on you and your cohorts!!!
He must recycle redundancy. Year in year out na recycling watchtowers they get. cheesy grin cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:26pm On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
While you totally digressed🤨, the verse goes to show that Jesus was the word of God in Heaven, from the very beginning! 😁

Not after his successful mission! JESUS is the same today, yesterday and tomorrow!
MaxInDHouse don't understand his own words here...

So it's after his successful earthly mission that he was confirmed both in heaven and on earth as God's spokesman! Hebrews 1:1-2
Before his earthly mission he was the Word. That is what the statement in bold means cheesy cheesy cheesy

His madness and insanities peddling brains cannot understand what he is typing here.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:27pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Certainly he can't be a spokesman in the absence of any audience so it wasn't in the beginning before creation that he served as the word of God! wink
Another lies and manipulations. The angels in heaven are mannequin cheesy grin grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:31pm On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Spokesperson is an human concept your 'genius' men of Chicago 👀 invented, but it fails woefully!

You alluded a while back that Jesus was the master worker and the wisdom of God! From which I asked you a simple question, did God suddenly become wise when he created Jesus? 🤔Which strongly implies he was foolish!

In the same vein, the bible condemns such view because Christ hath been with the Father before the beginning and he doesn't require "an audience" to be termed the "word of God"!

In fact based on genesis, the word of God was used without any audience! People came into being the sixth day!

This negates such foolish view!
In fact, your idea is a spinoff of the convoluted doctrine that states God needs an "audience" to be God 🤨!
You see the extent he will go to lie and manipulate the scripture. Jesus needs audience to be the Word of God grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:34pm On Apr 06, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Catch who😂😂😂?
Why don't you go to that thread and educate yourself 🙃?

They are talking of animals with horns, your snail like self is coming out 🤨!

Mich547, you know how it ended miserably for you the previous times we had a discourse 🙃. I will do so well to remind you of what will befall you once more!
He is still struggling to bring his own explanation of the diagram he brought here grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:35pm On Apr 06, 2025
Truthseeker10:
😂😂😂educate myself with a teacher that does not know the Hebrew word for "Archangel"? Baba you need sleep.
So says the individual always asking questions looking for who to trap in the concocted doctrines packed into his brains as truth
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:37pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
That's our interpretation of that title:

"The WORD of God"

And it's practical application has been of great blessings among us as these word of God removed hatred totally form our hearts so that we LOVE our neighbors as ourselves {Mark 12:31} LOVE our enemies {Luke 6:27-28} and LOVE our fellow believers just as Jesus loves us! John 13:34-35
And for your information that's what the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 said regarding God's true worshipers in the end time where they will use THE WORD OF GOD to resolve disparities peacefully among themselves divert their resources into production of food and information materials stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again!

That's the PRACTICAL APPLICATION of the title THE WORD OF GOD!

But if you object please tell me the practical application of the title! smiley
Our interpretation. Fraudulent interpretation that didn't align with that of your religious organization paapaa
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:39pm On Apr 06, 2025
Emusan:
So AI is right?



Can you hear the lying liar.

cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

So you agreed that Jesus served as God's SPOKESPERSON in heaven before coming to Earth.

Which means I'm right all this while and you're the one lying.

The reason for that name The Word was because Jesus is God's SPOKESPERSON.

Oponu oniri oshi.



No! That's not what Paul was saying just a delusion from your own delusional mind.



Always playing the victim card.

You lied and your lie was shown to you instead of you to swallow it you want emotional victory.

It's evident Jesus has been The Word before coming to Earth.
This thread really expose to any length he is willing to go to peddle lies and manipulations
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:40pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
According to JW teaching Jesus has been acting as God's spokesman in heaven but since he hasn't done the same on earth we humans can't understand that appellation that's why he needs to complete his earthly mission before we are convinced of his title.
Your grievances is unjustified because it's our teaching so we are the one who can explain to the details what we believe not the other way around since you don't even agree with our beliefs! undecided
Acting grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy MaxInDHouse fraudulent ways of manipulations of the scriptures
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:43pm On Apr 06, 2025
Janosky:
You too dunce.
What is the definition of appellation?
@ John 1:1, the Word is a title.
@ Revelation 19:13, the Word of God is a name.

@ James 1:25, become doers of the word doesn't mean become doers of Jesus.
@ James 1:25, @ John 14:24, the word is God's messages, command, instructions which Jesus Christ is obeying.
Jesus is a doer of the word @ James 1:25 & John 14:24.
This is the point beyond Emusan's low comprehension skills can't understand.
What a load of werey peddlings here grin grin cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:45pm On Apr 06, 2025
johnw47:
very dum lost fraud jw janosky

@ john 1:1, show how the Word is a title and not a name



you are the one who can't understand, and that's for certain
james 1:25 is about people who not only know the law but do what's required by the law, will be blessed

john 14:24 is about the words Jesus teaches is words from the Father

how do these verses show that "the Word" is not pre flesh Jesus Christ,
and that "the Word" is not a name

there are none dummer than you false jw's, are there

2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them
We know Janosky is the mumu and no get sense peddling of nairaland
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:47pm On Apr 06, 2025
Janosky:
Very dunce Emusan LYING to himself.
A.I overview:
"According to jw......"
JW's viewpoint quoted by A.I

[i]Emusan LYING: @ 5:22pm On Apr 03
LYING miscreant desperate to cover up his lies @ 5:22pm on Thursday,April 3rd,


Even your deluded organization says Jesus being the word of God is the same word at Genesis 1:1".
[/i]


No Sir, the word @ Genesis 1 is God's creative power different from the word @ James 1:25 & John 14:24, that is,God's messages, command that Jesus is doing obediently, John 12:49-50.
Abeg wetin be the creative power of Jehovah grin cheesy cheesy cheesy

Holy spirit. Na Holy spirit go soon create all things now not even Jesus grin cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:49pm On Apr 06, 2025
johnw47:
lost fraud jw janosky

more:
john 1:3 says everything was made through "the Word'
john 1:10 shows the world was made through "Jesus"

= "the Word" is pre flesh "Jesus Christ"
MaxInDHouse was accusing Emusan that AI is teaching Emusan. Janosky is really the mumu and no get sense peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:50pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
I never knew that the spirit of fanaticm is also working in the minds of people claiming Christians until i met these guys. Just imagine someone claiming he or she is a Christian insulting, abusing and cursing another person for what reason? Because that one's beliefs contradicts yours! undecided
But these same people will start crying that Boko Haram is attacking their fellow believers due to intolerance! huh
God that none of us had seen before yet believe in His existence, is it not the benefits of coming together that should serve as evidence that a spirit being is in our midst for our benefits? Isaiah 48:17-18
So if your gathering has no benefit other than arguing over what your god is or what it's not then is there any difference between these people and Boko Haram? embarassed
From the fanatic of all things Jehovah's witnesses, always projecting his madness and insanities peddling ways on Nairaland on others.
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:52pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The point is you don't believe in our teachings so you can't understand what we are teaching.
Jesus has been God's spokesman in heaven before coming to the earth but it's after his earthly mission that we know him that's what qualifies him to be God's spokesman both in heaven and on earth: The WORD of God! smiley
Accept you are a liar and manipulator grin cheesy grin grin
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:52pm On Apr 06, 2025
Emusan:
This is the point.

because of this is the reason Watchtower claimed Jesus is the Word.

So, you lied for saying Jesus ONLY BECAME THE WORD after his mission on earth.

That is the point.
No more room for him to turn
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey: 8:53pm On Apr 06, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Is AI part of those PRACTICING what JWs believe? smiley
Ask Janosky aka JaNosense the werey peddling brains
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by achorladey:
This is for Gabrielshow24 consumption


Daniel 8:25​—Who is “the Prince of princes”? The Hebrew word sar, translated “prince,” basically means “chief,” or “head one.” The title “Prince of princes” applies only to Jehovah God​—the Chief of all angelic princes, including “Michael, one of the foremost princes.”​—Daniel 10:13.


Loooool!

Truthseeker10 come and keep peddling your irrelevant questions to foster your redundancy. MaxInDHouse the madness and insanities peddling brains alongside Janosky the werey peddling brains be the guest of Michael547 grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

Cc: Emusan

Jehovah too na Prince. This will get more interesting now. From here Jehovah's witnesses doctrine of only one ARCHANGEL is a lie too. Jehovah is the chief and heads many archangels. Even Jehovah na Archangel paapaa grin cheesy cheesy grin

Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 11:36pm On Apr 06, 2025
Janosky:
John W LYING WAILER, please continue to repeat your folly on this forum
Every spirit being dwelling with God is an angel, angelic being.
Why are you so dunce? grin grin grin
ecc_7:6  For as the crackling of thorns under a pot, So is the laughter of the fool



lost fraud jw janosky
talk about dunce, as you keep showing, you certainly are

the Word made all those angels dwelling with God, oh most dum one:

Joh 1:3  All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. 

fals jw you a false accuser like the devil:
Rev_12:10  Then I heard a loud voice in heaven, saying, "Now the salvation, and the power, and the kingdom of our God and the authority of His Christ have come, for the accuser of our brethren has been thrown down, he who accuses them before our God day and night.

false jw, you a liar like the devil:
Joh 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and you want to do the desires of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning, and does not stand in the truth because there is no truth in him. WHENEVER HE SPEAKS A LIE, THAT IS HIS NATURAL WAY OF SPEAKING, for he is a liar and the father of lies.

false jw, you end up with your father the devil:
Mat 13:49  So it will be at the end of the age; the angels will come forth and take out the wicked from among the righteous 
Mat 13:50  and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 11:39pm On Apr 06, 2025
achorladey:
MaxInDHouse was accusing Emusan that AI is teaching Emusan.
there false accusing/lying is endless

achorladey: Janosky is really the mumu and no get sense peddling brains grin cheesy cheesy
yes, he keeps showing that smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 11:40pm On Apr 06, 2025
achorladey:
We know Janosky is the mumu and no get sense peddling of nairaland
we certainly do smiley
Re: Why Is Christ The Angel Of The Lord ? by johnw47: 12:50am On Apr 07, 2025
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