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Gabrielshow24:
Are you this daft?
First of all, you missed the goal post entirely by positing that I used GPT when I didn't.

Secondly, yeah, I used an LLM extension which can be construed as AI but not in the discussion, I had with op! —you are free to disprove this if you like, if it will help you sleep more🤔

Thirdly, You totally missed the plethora of different instances where your homeboy downplayed others' intellect while totally relying on GPT for answers! A serious case of mistaken identity! Your hypocrisy radar didn't go on🤔.

Lastly, You don't have anything useful to say!

Class dismissed!

You've terminated the conversation for the second time only to come back and keep repeating yourself. 🤦🏽

I don't see how anything you've said here changes that fact that you rely on AI for certain posts.

Here's a useful hint: pointing out other people's wrongdoing is not an excuse to justify yours.

FiveFootNinja:
You're artificially generating content here that's being presented as if they were from your own thoughts. And you're well aware that this is happening. It's not happening without your knowledge.

So it's irrelevant whether you're using ChatGPT, LLM extension or whatever tool. You're still relying on it to generate your comments. And that's the bottom line.

Sleep never catch you yet? Abi e don comot for your eye?

I am not relying on it to generate my comments! If I wanted, it would generate all my comments but I don't use it save for my work! When I do use it in write-ups, it is only when I am tired, busy or too engaged to type my own response!


There's a difference, you can take a sample of all my quotes on Nairaland and check them if you like! Even in the other thread he opened I said categorically that I use llms to write redundant codes!—what exactly are you driving at here?

My case is different from op's because unlike op, I write my comments myself!

FiveFootNinja:
You've terminated the conversation for the second time only to come back and keep repeating yourself. 🤦🏽

I don't see how anything you've said here changes that fact that you rely on AI for certain posts.

Here's a useful hint: pointing out other people's wrongdoing is not an excuse to justify yours.

It's not an excuse to justify my own! Your yard stick is totally wrong. Your perceived act of hypocrisy is far-fetched!

Now kindly tell me, in the discourse I had with both you and him, of an instance of AI🤧.
At least, we have had conversations. Let's start from there🙃.

I want to engage you for a little while to dismiss your sentimental allusions🤨!

Gabrielshow24:
I am not relying on it to generate my comment!

VS

Gabrielshow24:
When I do use it in write-ups...

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Gabrielshow24:
....it is only when I am tired, busy or too engaged to type my own response!

There's a difference....

So long story short, you rely on AI. It's just a matter of context. I get your point perfectly.

As for being tired, busy or too engaged, personally I don't see why you shouldn't just take a rest and come back to respond when you want to. Personally, I've done it before. I can respond to a conversation I was having with someone last month. But anyway, that's me.

All I'm saying is you can't mock someone for relying on AI, when you do the exact same. The same way you've justified yourself here (and your reason is okay), another person can have his own justification for using AI. That's why I said you have to look at the optics i.e read the room.

Gabrielshow24:
It's not an excuse to justify my own! Your yard stick is totally wrong. Your perceived act of hypocrisy is far-fetched!

Now kindly tell me, in the discourse I had with both you and him, of an instance of AI🤧.
At least, we have had conversations. Let's start from there🙃.

I want to engage you for a little while to dismiss your sentimental allusions🤨!

What part of "certain posts scattered across other sections here" are you finding difficult to assimilate?

No seriously I can pull up what I said and we'll go through it.

FiveFootNinja:
I wasn't exactly referring to this thread when I said you had posts entirely copied from AI. When I said your posts, I was speaking of certain posts scattered across other sections here.

What part don't you understand?

FiveFootNinja:
What part of "certain posts scattered across other sections here" are you finding difficult to assimilate?

No seriously I can pull up what I said and we'll go through it.



What part don't you understand?

I probably missed that mention of yours.
Well, I didn't use AI to have a discourse with him 🤔.
The one you allude to was to call him out as regards his promise🤨.

Did you find any during our discourse? Nope, you can't! I don't need to stoop so low to his level!

Gabrielshow24:
I probably missed that mention of yours.
Well, I didn't use AI to have a discourse with him 🤔.
The one you allude to was to call him out as regards his promise🤨.

Did you find any during our discourse? Nope, you can't! I don't need to stoop so low to his level!

No wam.

FiveFootNinja:
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So long story short, you rely on AI. It's just a matter of context. I get your point perfectly.

As for being tired, busy or too engaged, personally I don't see why you shouldn't just take a rest and come back to respond when you want to. Personally, I've done it before. I can respond to a conversation I was having with someone last month. But anyway, that's me.

All I'm saying is you can't mock someone for relying on AI, when you do the exact same. The same way you've justified yourself here (and your reason is okay), another person can have his own justification for using AI. That's why I said you have to look at the optics i.e read the room.

My context is totally different from that of op's. We are miles apart intellectually!

My entire theme has been against his total reliance on AI even in his own thread!
I'm sure you saw where I said "I was talking to an LLM"

Also, you failed to address op when he mocked others' intellect using AI! That's my bone of contention with you, your radar didn't pick up on that 🤕! You didn't deem that as intellectual dishonesty!

Gabrielshow24:
My context is totally different from that of op's. We are miles apart intellectually!

Duh. The context is different. I just said that.

As for the supposed gap in intelligence, I don't know enough to comment on that and it's irrelevant to this argument.

Gabrielshow24:
My entire theme has been against his total reliance on AI even in his own thread!
I'm sure you saw where I said "I was talking to an LLM"

So basically this is a quarrel about who uses AI more? 🤷🏽😂

Gabrielshow24:
Also, you failed to address op when he mocked others' intellect using AI! That's my bone of contention with you, your radar didn't pick up on that 🤕! You didn't deem that as intellectual dishonesty!

Did OP copy ChatGPT without reference? If no, then how is that intellectual dishonesty?

It's like when we go to websites like Britannica or Quora. Some people lift content from those sites and paste them here without attribution. Others do their due diligence and include the references.

But the bottom line is this: are the lifted articles relevant to the conversation? Do they address the topic? Are they coherent?

Some people copy paste, but sometimes even their copy paste ends up biting them in the ass because they didn't read through it properly to see subtle details or caveats that disarms them completely.

Like I said, heckle him all you want but he never hid his intentions. He has been consistent, and he didn't pretend as if those words were his.

People dissing each other about intelligence happens all the time around here, to the point where I don't even register it in my mind. If I was a petty shít-stirrer, I can literally sit here all day and point out why many people on this thread have no right to be calling others unintelligent. But then what would really be the point?

FiveFootNinja:
Duh. The context is different. I just said that.

As for the supposed gap in intelligence, I don't know enough to comment on that and it's irrelevant to this argument.



So basically this is a quarrel about who uses AI more? 🤷🏽😂



Did OP copy ChatGPT without reference? If no, then how is that intellectual dishonesty?

It's like when we go to websites like Britannica or Quora. Some people lift content from those sites and paste them here without attribution. Others do their due diligence and include the references.

But the bottom line is this: are the lifted articles relevant to the conversation? Do they address the topic? Are they coherent?

Some people copy paste, but sometimes even their copy paste ends up biting them in the ass because they didn't read through it properly to see subtle details or caveats that disarms them completely.

Like I said, heckle him all you want but he never hid his intentions. He has been consistent, and he didn't pretend as if those words were his.

People dissing each other about intelligence happens all the time around here, to the point where I don't even register it in my mind. If I was a petty shít-stirrer, I can literally sit here all day and point out why many people on this thread have no right to be calling others unintelligent. But then what would really be the point?

It's intellectual dishonesty because he used it as a basis to deem others unintelligible — basically hypocrisy, trying to flex a muscle he can't use!

To clarify, the post you deemed it fit, I 'pretended' upon to be mine was it in any way related to the dismissal of his argument! What shall we call that type of response 🤨?

I don't like to go about in circular arguments. I have heard your own. It's alright 🙃. Hopefully I see you on the battlefield 😁 where we can settle the rest there—Although, I think🤔 we still have unfinished business 🙃.

lawani:
The benefit is that you will be able to work hand in hand with your spirit and you will also be able to help others do the same. That is the summary of the benefits. There is nothing to compare to unrestricted liaison with the spirit world via your own spirit.

Guy me i don't need the cooperation of any spirit and i'm doing well!

Gabrielshow24:
It's intellectual dishonesty because he used it as a basis to deem others unintelligible — basically hypocrisy, trying to flex a muscle he can't use!

Fair enough.

Gabrielshow24:
To clarify, the post you deemed it fit, I 'pretended' upon to be mine was it in any way related to the dismissal of his argument! What shall we call that type of response 🤨?

Yes, it was a response to something he stated, as a matter of fact. Attacking someone for relying on AI when you're also relying on AI for whatever reason automatically renders your point moot, your true intentions notwithstanding. If you can find reasonable justification for using AI, I'm sure Omoawoke will do the same if we start to heckle him.

Gabrielshow24:
I don't like to go about in circular arguments. I have heard your own. It's alright 🙃. Hopefully I see you on the battlefield 😁 where we can settle the rest there—Although, I think🤔 we still have unfinished business 🙃.

You're the one who kept walking us round the circle only to keep reinforcing my point. I never intended to drag the issue any longer than necessary.

I'll see you when I see you like fantasia.

Good morning.

Gabrielshow24:
Right? It's like watching someone try to win an argument by throwing a smartphone at it instead of actually thinking! 🤣 I mean, relying on AI to dismiss biblical narratives is like using a calculator to argue that math is just a myth. If he thinks the Tower of Babel is impossible, maybe he should try building a bridge between his logic and reality! But hey, at least he’s got GPT to back him up—because clearly, he’s running on empty! 😂

They are really fools, thinking they anything
Let's assume the Bible is fabricated
More than 40 authors from different generations came together and planned to fabricate lies. Lies that were very largely consistent over thousands of years

Passed on the lie to apostles, who knew they were lies, yet they were stoned, beheaded, imprisoned all because of lies, and yet they stood their ground

Then passed it on to our generations, where millions claim healing and miracles just to sustain the lies. Even if all these were true, really the Bible itself will still be a miracle, because nothing can ever replicate those lies

Funny enough those fools arguing here cannot be bold to declare what they believe about creation

FiveFootNinja:
Fair enough.



Yes, it was a response to something he stated, as a matter of fact. Attacking someone for relying on AI when you're also relying on AI for whatever reason automatically renders your point moot, your true intentions notwithstanding. If you can find reasonable justification for using AI, I'm sure Omoawoke will do the same if we start to heckle him.



You're the one who kept walking us round the circle only to keep reinforcing my point. I never intended to drag the issue any longer than necessary.

I'll see you when I see you like fantasia.

Good morning.

lol


@Gabrielshow24

Are you still pissed off at my use of Ai?

Seriously I thought we’ve gone pass this…

You really expect me to be spending my energy and time analyzing Tower of Babel and other dumb Bible stories to adults?

I am currently working on a process improvement project… and part of the things I work on is automation of NVA activities (non value adding ) that consume time, energy and resources yet don’t add much value… and we are implementing the use of AI… where staff can focus on more value adding tasks

I just used you as an experiment… in fact I will add this as an illustration to explain it in non technical terms…

Use AI to engage dumb debates online, while focusing your energy on more reasonable tasks..

Like I said, it’s time you dump that useless Bible as it’s not making you smarter… embrace technology !

All your Bible stories and arguments, I can annihilate everything within minutes just using my ChatGPT … without even opening the Bible

See this meme below, ChatGPT made it for you yesterday when you were debating it 🤣

Omoawoke:
So I created a thread earlier:

Some religious folks entered there and started to brag how their religious book is perfect and scientifically proven…

Well, we call something confirmation bias, people tend to be so bias to what they belief. Some get very irrational and emotional… some simply don’t have the mental awareness and capacity to think beyond what they already know (in fact majority lack critical thinking abilities).

Thanks to Ai, we can now get a neutral unbiased view of some things

Do you have any belief system you have been afraid to question? Either politics, educational, religious or cultural belief..? Just ask chatgpt to give you a “BRUTAL HONEST FEEDBACK”
Normally Ai will try to be nice and diplomatic, but to get the best result, tell it to give you the raw truth without filter..

Let’s catch fun and screenshot the results here

Rather than endlessly arguing, just let’s AI it… hahaha

Use any one you want, DeepSeek, metaAI, Grok, chatgpt

Ai has no mercy in your ridiculous logic and views

Impressive takes.

That story of Noah, the ark and flood are derived from a totally non-religious source known as the "Epic of Gilgamesh." I've known this FACT through comparative religion studies since the 1980s through to the 1990s before these AI tools even existed. People have to learn how to read far and wide in order to break away from the religious dogmas they were born into in order to unleash their true potentials in life.

Even several Jewish scholars who's books I've read over the years know full well that I've the bible is NOT to be taken literally BECAUSE of the use of midrash (allegories) to depict events.

"The Bible Unearthed" is one of the greatest books written by Jewish writers who state CLEARLY that the bible contains a lot of non-literal events. So, it should NOT be interpreted literally. Nice thread.

AlphaTaikun:
Impressive takes.

That story of Noah, the ark and flood are derived from a totally non-religious source known as the "Epic of Gilgamesh." I've known this FACT through comparative religion studies since the 1980s through to the 1990s before these AI tools even existed. People have to learn how to read far and wide in order to break away from the religious dogmas they were born into in order to unleash their true potentials in life.

Even several Jewish scholars who's books I've read over the years know full well that I've the bible is NOT to be taken literally BECAUSE of the use of midrash (allegories) to depict events.

"The Bible Unearthed" is one of the greatest books written by Jewish writers who state CLEARLY that the bible contains a lot of non-literal events. So, it should NOT be interpreted literally. Nice thread.

It seems you trust the information in the bible since you know how the bible should be interpreted. Is that so?

Truthseeker10:
It seems you trust the information in the bible since you know how the bible should be interpreted. Is that so?

To show more CLARITY... The bible is a mishmash of allegories, contradictions and outright falsehoods. How can a book that endorses murders of men, women and children OR the sharing of the spoils of war by sharing captured women among the supposed victorious Israel warriors in the Old Testament be a "holy" book? A book like that CANNOT be a holy book.

Same with the Muslims who had copied or lifted materials from the Jewish Old and New testaments and other non-bible sources. I DON'T have the time to delve deeper into these specifics BUT had to reply your post to clarify some things. These orthodox religions are what they are... Copies of copies. That's why I naturally left Xtianity BUT I believe there is a vibrational "Life Force" beyond space and time in charge of our solar system or universe, BUT NOT the way the Xtians and Muslims describe IT. This solar system is NOT an accident but based on intelligent evolution in time and space.

Read up some more books that I have read over the last 45 years on this subject matter. You can ALSO use Google and YouTube to do an initial research of these books BELOW by reading excerpts before buying them online or offline.

1 Acharya S. (Murdock) she's an American who wrote several books on the Astrotheological origins of Christianity and some other religions based on the veneration or worship of the SUN based on the movement of the SUN and stars in the 12-month constellations. Hence, Jesus is the SUN (corrupted to SON of God a few centuries ago, BUT the original manuscripts contain SUN NOT son). The SUN (Jesus) moved with 12 disciples, the Sun was born of a virgin, referring to the sign Virgo in the 12 month constellations, etc. This is consistent with the stories of the Savior Gods (SUN Gods) such as Horus of Egypt, Krishna, Buddha, Mithra, etc, who were all SUN Gods known to the ancient world.

The book "Suns of God," and "Who is Jesus?" are 2 out of Acharya S' books that will open your eyes and that of others more to the insidious ways the orthodox religions clergy over the centuries have manipulated the masses and they don't want you to know the FACTS because they will be out of business, BUT it's already happening with the pervasiveness of the Internet and the spread of books and archival materials that have been in the public domain for decades BUT can now be easily got online.

2]The Bible Unearthed. Written by 2 Jewish guy s on the mythical originals of the bible. The story of Noah was lifted directly from "the Epic of Gilgamesh" which isn't even a religious book.

3] Jeffery Arthur's book on the pre-Islamic era in Arabia and ancient Islam including how it evolved from the polytheistic "moon worship" 🌜popular in the Arabian Peninsula centuries back with archaeologists photographs of ancient engravings of people bowing down to the moon.

4] Jesus the Man by Barbara Thiering on the real allegorical meanings of the so-called miracles of the bible Jesus such as walking on water, turning water to wine, feeding the 5000, and then feeding the 4000 with loaves of bread and fish, etc.

AlphaTaikun:
To show more CLARITY... The bible is a mishmash of allegories, contradictions and outright falsehoods. How can a book that endorses murders of men, women and children OR the sharing of the spoils of war by sharing captured women among the supposed victorious Israel warriors in the Old Testament be a "holy" book? A book like that CANNOT be a holy book.

Same with the Muslims who had copied or lifted materials from the Jewish Old and New testaments and other non-bible sources. I DON'T have the time to delve deeper into these specifics BUT had to reply your post to clarify some things. These orthodox religions are what they are... Copies of copies. That's why I naturally left Xtianity BUT I believe there is a vibrational "Life Force" beyond space and time in charge of our solar system or universe, BUT NOT the way the Xtians and Muslims describe IT. This solar system is NOT an accident but based on intelligent evolution in time and space.

Read up some more books that I have read over the last 45 years on this subject matter. You can ALSO use Google and YouTube to do an initial research of these books BELOW by reading excerpts before buying them online or offline.

1 Acharya S. (Murdock) she's an American who wrote several books on the Astrotheological origins of Christianity and some other religions based on the veneration or worship of the SUN based on the movement of the SUN and stars in the 12-month constellations. Hence, Jesus is the SUN (corrupted to SON of God a few centuries ago, BUT the original manuscripts contain SUN NOT son). The SUN (Jesus) moved with 12 disciples, the Sun was born of a virgin, referring to the sign Virgo in the 12 month constellations, etc. This is consistent with the stories of the Savior Gods (SUN Gods) such as Horus of Egypt, Krishna, Buddha, Mithra, etc, who were all SUN Gods known to the ancient world.

The book "Suns of God," and "Who is Jesus?" are 2 out of Acharya S' books that will open your eyes and that of others more to the insidious ways the orthodox religions clergy over the centuries have manipulated the masses and they don't want you to know the FACTS because they will be out of business, BUT it's already happening with the pervasiveness of the Internet and the spread of books and archival materials that have been in the public domain for decades BUT can now be easily got online.

2]The Bible Unearthed. Written by 2 Jewish guy s on the mythical originals of the bible. The story of Noah was lifted directly from "the Epic of Gilgamesh" which isn't even a religious book.

3] Jeffery Arthur's book on the pre-Islamic era in Arabia and ancient Islam including how it evolved from the polytheistic "moon worship" 🌜popular in the Arabian Peninsula centuries back with archaeologists photographs of ancient engravings of people bowing down to the moon.

4] Jesus the Man by Barbara Thiering on the real allegorical meanings of the so-called miracles of the bible Jesus such as walking on water, turning water to wine, feeding the 5000, and then feeding the 4000 with loaves of bread and fish, etc.

Alright...so while the bible cannot be a trusted book, can you provide answers to the following questions?

1)what is the origin of the universe and the origin of life?
2) what is the purpose of our existence here on earth?
3) why is there suffering and evil in the world?
4)what is your standard of the concept of good and bad?