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owobokiri:
Tell them..

Bro this is shameful
You defending and justifying failure!

nairalanda1:
UK can be dirty very well well. The trick is...they pay hefty council taxes of over 240000 or more. Monthly. (If you are poor, you can pay in bits, but ye must make it up eventually).

The large money means they can afford dumpster trucks for even small tiny villages. And dustbins, and refuse processing plants, and the private sector comes in with recycling plants. NIgeria? No Nigerianis going to pay even N50000 monthly to get better council and municipal services. Them go argue , them go riot. SO, the dirt show continues.
Of all cities in Nigeria, only Abuja and Lagos have weekly refuse collection (and it is inadequate even self).

You're notoriously fond of giving excuses for the failure of leadership in Nigeria as being about low taxes. Does it cost the govt extra ₦1 to make sure every land owner follows a specified set of rules while erecting building, including the direction it should face, whether it should be visible/invisible roof type, prohibition of rusty iron roofing, the space to give at the front for street/walkways, etc??

nairalanda1:
Still doesn't change the facts.
If government tried to provide everything, debt will worsen..
Plus, if you read my comments, you will see the bits where I call for government to diversify and change our economy
But no, na to abuse you want to do.
Good evening.

Why are you running away from the points I raised? Did any of those things I mentioned require spending on the part of the government? And BTW, point out the insult in my post.

RenaissanceGuy:
It's like somebody saying that he's very intelligent, but only chooses to be behaving like a mad man. If we're that sensible let's show it in city and town planning first. When we say a city is developed, it's not the number of professors, surgeons, computer scientists or even vehicle, ship or aircraft manufacturing factories it has, but the physical attraction—street layout, and the way houses, roads and bridges are neatly arranged we're talking about. If you can't get that right, if you like have a $30tr GDP, you're a joker.

Stop talking nonsense.

What is wrong with street layouts in Nigeria? What is not well arranged? You are talking so much nonsense.

You cannot just build anywhere you like in a Nigerian city or you will get your house pulled down.

What the cities lack is funding for the finishing touches like covered drains, sidewalks, full street lightning etc.

One look at ABUJA tells you that Nigerians KNOW what a city should look like.

Common sense therefore should tell you that that given ENOUGH TIME AND FUNDING, every city in Nigeria would eventually look like Abuja.

BUT IF YOU HAVE AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX. YOU WON’T SEE IT THAT WAY.

You will go around sniffing for the worst looking environment as “proof” that “Nigerians” or “blacks, Africans” are as horrible and inferior as you have been brainwashed to believe they are.

RenaissanceGuy:
So why then are you saying Nigeria's underdevelopment is due to trillions Britain is owing it? Do you think if Nigeria receives $100tr today that it'll automatically develop into a Finland, Sweden or Singapore?? Money is just paper. It's intellect that develops a country.

He is ignorant of the fact that these leaders have unlimited greed!

They will just hijack and wallop the $100trillion without batting an eyelid

Bigboytinz:
The Singaporeans were also ripped off by the same British. The Indians too

I don't think it's fair to compare Singapore to Nigeria. How many ethnic groups do they have? Did their ethnic diversity ever cause a Civil War?

Well, with our leadership issues, perhaps even if the circumstances were the same, we could still be like this.

VeeVeeMyLuv:
He is ignorant of the fact that these leaders have unlimited greed!

They will just hijack and wallop the $100trillion without batting an eyelid

OH SHUT UP.

SMALL BOY TALKING RUBBISH.

IF IT’S LIKE THAT YOU WOULD BE WALKING ALONG FOOTPATHS, NOT DRIVING ON EXPRESSWAYS AND FLYOVERS AND USING A SMARTPHONE.

WHERE DO YOU THINK ALL THAT INFRASTRUCTURE YOU TAKE FOR GRANTED CAME FROM?

THE SKY?

IF 100 TRILLION DOLLARS DROPS, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK YOU WILL NOT GET MORE OF THOSE THINGS?

MOR.ON.

Catapault:
Stop talking nonsense.
What is wrong with street layouts in Nigeria? What is not well arranged? You are talking so much nonsense.
You cannot just build anywhere you like in a Nigerian city or you will get your house pulled down.
What the cities lack is funding for the finishing touches like covered drains, sidewalks, full street lightning etc.

One look at ABUJA tells you that Nigerians KNOW what a city should look like.

Common sense therefore should tell you that that given ENOUGH TIME AND FUNDING, every city in Nigeria would eventually look like Abuja.

BUT IF YOU HAVE AN INFERIORITY COMPLEX. YOU WON’T SEE IT THAT WAY.

You will go around sniffing for the worst looking environment as “proof” that “Nigerians” or “blacks, Africans” are as horrible and inferior as you have been brainwashed to believe they are.

Your overuse of the word 'brainwash' shows how puerile and kindergarten you're. Very true - eventually in the year 4500AD every part of Nigeria will look like New York City. Let's manage the current status.

RenaissanceGuy:
It's like somebody saying that he's very intelligent, but only chooses to be behaving like a mad man. If we're that sensible let's show it in city and town planning first. When we say a city is developed, it's not the number of professors, surgeons, computer scientists or even vehicle, ship or aircraft manufacturing factories it has, but the physical attraction—street layout, and the way houses, roads and bridges are neatly arranged we're talking about. If you can't get that right, if you like have a $30tr GDP, you're a joker.

lol@bolded

Don't mind them. They can defend anything. You said Africans developed Europe, how can Africa has failed to develop itself?

Obaaderemi2:
lol@bolded

Don't mind them. They can defend anything. You said Africans developed Europe, how can Africa has failed to develop itself?

IF YOU WEREN’T STUPID AND ALLERGIC TO RESEARCH, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT 12 OF THE 20 FASTEST GROWING ECONOMIES ON EARTH ARE AFRICAN COUNTRIES.

IF YOU WEREN’T A HISTORICAL ILLITERATE, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AFRICA WAS VIRTUALLY AT PAR WITH EUROPE, AND IN MANY CASES MORE ADVANCED, BEFORE THE LATTER BRUTALLY INTRODUCED FIREARMS TO CONQUER AND PLUNDER THE WORLD, TO ENRICH THEMSELVES IMMORALLY.

YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AFRICA HAD MIGHTY, PROSPEROUS EMPIRES, AND CITIES LIKE OUR OWN BENIN CITY, THAT WERE BOMBARDED, LOOTED, AND BURNED DOWN BY INVADING EUROPEAN SAVAGES, WHOSE MUSEUMS ARE FILLED TODAY WITH OUR TREASURES, AS EVIDENCE OF THEIR THEFT AND BRIGANDAGE.

BENIN CITY WAS DESCRIBED AS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CITIES IN THE WORLD BY VISITING DUTCH AND PORTUGUESE TRADERS IN THE 16TH CENTURY.

IT HAD MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC MONUMENTS, UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE AND PALM OIL-FUELLED STREET LIGHTS, AND HAD A KINGDOM WALL AND RAMPART SYSTEM THAT WAS “4 TIMES LONGER THAN THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA”, AND IS RECORDED IN THE 1974 GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS AS “THE WORLD’S LARGEST EARTHWORKS CARRIED OUT PRIOR TO THE MECHANICAL ERA”.

THE MALI EMPIRE HAD UNIVERSITIES ESTABLISHED FROM AT LEAST THE 8TH CENTURY.

THE CURRENT OLDEST UNIVERSITY ON EARTH IS THE SANKORE UNIVERSITY, TIMBUKTU, MALI, ESTABLISHED 864 AD.

That’s roughly 1,300 years ago, and still in operation today.

The oldest university in Europe is the University of Bologna, Italy, established in 1088 (most likely by black African Moors), 220 years after Sankore University.

AT ITS HEIGHT IN THE 14TH CENTURY THE SANKORE UNIVERSITY, AS WELL AS OTHER SAHELIAN UNIVERSITIES ALL THE WAY TO KATSINA, ATTRACTED STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST AND EUROPE.

THE REASON YOU FEEL INFERIOR TO WHITES IS BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW YOUR HISTORY.

If you knew your African history the way you are SUPPOSED to know it, you will never feel inferior to any other race of men.

Quite the opposite. You will be looking at them as your JUNIORS in the world, and working on outsmarting them as the JUNIORS they are.

nairalanda1:
Do you have the money to uplift the village housing to modern houses.?

I live in a two bedroom, two toilet one kitchen and living room house. It cost my landlord 50 million naira alone.

Try doing that for a whole village. You will spend lots of money. Then after giving the villagers nice houses they will fall apart because they don't earn the income to maintain those nice houses well.

All those UK houses in the village are mortgaged to the hilt. Very few are owned outright. Most Nigerans cannot afford mortgages.

When I see the way some of you reason ehn, I just thank my God for the kind of education I was privileged to receive.

Xannadu:
When I see the way some of you reason ehn, I just thank my God for the kind of education I was privileged to receive.

Still doesn't answer my questions or points.

Money does not grow on magic trees

RenaissanceGuy:
You're notoriously fond of giving excuses for the failure of leadership in Nigeria as beings about low taxes. Does it cost the govt extra ₦1 to make sure every land owner follows a specified set of rules while erecting building, including the direction it should face, whether it should be visible/invisible roof type, prohibition of rusty iron roofing, the space to give at the front for street/walkways, etc??

Still doesn't change the facts.

If government tried to provide everything, debt will worsen..

Plus, if you read my comments, you will see the bits where I call for government to diversify and change our economy

But no, na to abuse you want to do.

Good evening.

Computer Village is not a country home lol

nlfpmod

Catapault:
If “Nigeria has never worked since 1960 till this day”, you’d be an illiterate village goat herder or bushmeat hunter like your grandfather was under British rule in the 1950s, so kindly STFU.

I laugh at all you PAMPERED MODERN NIGERIAN KIDS typing on your IPADS in your lavish parlour or even inside your SUV, on the way back from Shoprite, on smooth expressways and flyovers, typing about how Nigeria has “made no progress since 1960”.

You couldn’t survive 2 days in 1950s Nigeria.

Damn cretins.

This one is busy talking nonsense rather than asking himself how Nigeria became world poverty capital and 6th most insecure country on earth despite the huge natural and human potential it has

Meanwhile Nigeria city is still competing with UK village

Is that Ogbomosho?

Catapault:
IF YOU WEREN’T STUPID AND ALLERGIC TO RESEARCH, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT 12 OF THE 20 FASTEST GROWING ECONOMIES ON EARTH ARE AFRICAN COUNTRIES.

IF YOU WEREN’T A HISTORICAL ILLITERATE, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AFRICA WAS VIRTUALLY AT PAR WITH EUROPE, AND IN MANY CASES MORE ADVANCED, BEFORE THE LATTER BRUTALLY INTRODUCED FIREARMS TO CONQUER AND PLUNDER THE WORLD, TO ENRICH THEMSELVES IMMORALLY.

YOU WOULD KNOW THAT AFRICA HAD MIGHTY, PROSPEROUS EMPIRES, AND CITIES LIKE OUR OWN BENIN CITY, THAT WERE BOMBARDED, LOOTED, AND BURNED DOWN BY INVADING EUROPEAN SAVAGES, WHOSE MUSEUMS ARE FILLED TODAY WITH OUR TREASURES, AS EVIDENCE OF THEIR THEFT AND BRIGANDAGE.

BENIN CITY WAS DESCRIBED AS ONE OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL CITIES IN THE WORLD BY VISITING DUTCH AND PORTUGUESE TRADERS IN THE 16TH CENTURY.

IT HAD MULTI-STOREY BUILDINGS AND PUBLIC MONUMENTS, UNDERGROUND DRAINAGE AND PALM OIL-FUELLED STREET LIGHTS, AND HAD A KINGDOM WALL AND RAMPART SYSTEM THAT WAS “4 TIMES LONGER THAN THE GREAT WALL OF CHINA”, AND IS RECORDED IN THE 1974 GUINNESS BOOK OF RECORDS AS “THE WORLD’S LARGEST EARTHWORKS CARRIED OUT PRIOR TO THE MECHANICAL ERA”.

THE MALI EMPIRE HAD UNIVERSITIES ESTABLISHED FROM AT LEAST THE 8TH CENTURY.

THE CURRENT OLDEST UNIVERSITY ON EARTH IS THE SANKORE UNIVERSITY, TIMBUKTU, MALI, ESTABLISHED 864 AD.

That’s roughly 1,300 years ago, and still in operation today.

The oldest university in Europe is the University of Bologna, Italy, established in 1088 (most likely by black African Moors), 220 years after Sankore University.

AT ITS HEIGHT IN THE 14TH CENTURY THE SANKORE UNIVERSITY, AS WELL AS OTHER SAHELIAN UNIVERSITIES ALL THE WAY TO KATSINA, ATTRACTED STUDENTS FROM ALL OVER AFRICA, THE MIDDLE EAST AND EUROPE.

THE REASON YOU FEEL INFERIOR TO WHITES IS BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW YOUR HISTORY.

If you knew your African history the way you are SUPPOSED to know it, you will never feel inferior to any other race of men.

Quite the opposite. You will be looking at them as your JUNIORS in the world, and working on outsmarting them as the JUNIORS they are.

You are an animal to put it mildly. It's clear something is broken in you.

And you failed to answer the question even with all these your useless rant. How come Africa is the sick man of the world today if truly it was Africans who developed the rest of the world?

Where are those Benin ramparts today while the wall of china is still standing? Where are the storey buildings of Benin that existed before the Portuguese got there? There Are storey buildings in Portugal and Spain today that have stood since the middle ages. Mind you the Portuguese did not get to Benin until the 15th century.

So you knew the English defeated and looted Benin? That was just in 1899. How come Benin was still so backward in 1899 that the English, just a unit made up mostly of Hausa soldiers and a few white men could destroy "the almighty Benin ' in a matter of days? Where was the maritime war system of the mighty Benin?

Moors developed Europe yet Greek and Roman civilization were both before and greater than anything the moors had. Even ancient Egypt whose blackness is even largely debatable was easily defeated by outside forces. So which Africa are you talking about? You think everyone is blindly patriotic to lies like you are?

British colonies Hong Kong, USA, and many countries in the world. You can't progress when you have bad leaders

Bleiz:
There is no reason for comparison of any sort.

Decades if not millennia of constant planning and development that included years if not decades of exploitation of the resources in other countries of the world.

We here were ripped off by the British. Mind you, it's not only here in Nigeria.
They stole lots of resources from other countries they colonized.

Give us the same privilege and resources they had over the years and see us do better than them.

bennybuhari:
A typical village in UK and villages in Nigeria

When UK talk about villages, it includes good roads, electricity, clean water, hospitals and every other things the city enjoys.

When Nigerians talk about village, most likely muddy roads, no electricity, no clean water and brown roof and so on

Can we ever get there?

I really don't understand you guys. The British empire ruled the world for more than a century. They pillaged countries and continents for resources and used same to develop their own lands and you want to compare them to Nigeria that came into existence through forced coalition by the same British people

RenaissanceGuy:
Rubbbbish. It's not natural resources that develops a country; it's meticulous use of the brain and thorough urban planning. A country can have zero natural resources but imports them from other countries and then processes them using its intellect and then make hundreds of billions of dollars annually while the African nations whom the resources were imported from can't manufacture ordinary razor.

gbam. It is leadership that develops a country and not mineral resources

A Christian would ALWAYS defend the West, likewise a Muslim an Arab!
The first believes deep down that God is European while the second believes Arabic is God's language therefore God must be Arab!

If there would be any development in Africa, the leaders must fear the God of the land he rules!

quote author=Catapault post=134885659]

WILL YOU SHUT UP THERE.

GO ON AI CHATGPT AND ASK IT HOW MUCH BRITAIN OWES NIGERIA.

I DID, AND IT CALCULATED IT TO 50 TRILLION DOLLARS.

ABACHA STOLE WHAT? 2 BILLION?

IDIOT WHITE WORSHIPERS WITH NO SENSE.

WHENEVER THEY MENTION THE CRIMES AND ATROCITIES OF THE WEST, YOU SLAVES LINE UP LIKE STUPID CURSED BODYGUARDS IN KHAKI AND SHORT KNICKER TO DEFEND THEM.

STUPID MENTALLY COLONISED IDIOTS.

DON’T WAKE UP FROM YOUR SLUMBER AND KNOW YOUR HISTORY.

KEEP LOVING AND WORSHIPING FOREIGNERS WHOSE ONLY HISTORY HAS BEEN TO INVADE, MASSACRE, LOOT AND EXPLOIT YOU.[/quote]

michlins:
I really don't understand you guys. The British empire ruled the world for more than a century. They pillaged countries and continents for resources and used same to develop their own lands and you want to compare them to Nigeria that came into existence through forced coalition by the same British people

If they had a superior civilization they wouldn't have been so weak they had to be organized into forced coalitions in the first place. Let me tell you this: subsahara Africa was very weak and backward before the Europeans reached them because they were largely cut off from the centres of world civilization by the Sahara desert and the oceans. If they had had contacts early enough with the rest of the world Africa would not be as backward as it was in ancient times up till now. It is what it is. Life actually started in Africa but life left them behind. We have a lot to do. But unfortunately we have very bad tribalistic and corrupt leaders

Bleiz:
There is no reason for comparison of any sort.

Decades if not millennia of constant planning and development that included years if not decades of exploitation of the resources in other countries of the world.

We here were ripped off by the British. Mind you, it's not only here in Nigeria.
They stole lots of resources from other countries they colonized.

Give us the same privilege and resources they had over the years and see us do better than them.

You literally left out our leaders and politicians who plundered and raped this country since 1960 independence and crude oil and blamed white colonialists?

The baba who prepared the juju for Nigerian politicians for us to overlook their excesses and cluelessness and blame white colonialists is a strong baba.

UK village is far better than Nigerian city. Are you not all saying Lagos, the mega city is smelling?

Twemi:
Meanwhile Nigeria city is still competing with UK village

Sure! If we invade them,drag off all the working age to work for free for us. And take all their valuables.

Their karma has now come in the form of brexit. Well deserved

The only village in Nigeria that can match any village in the world in terms of beauty is Abiriba.
https://www.nairaland.com/6049876/abiriba-small-london-luxurious-abia

Iragbiji village where d agbado munchers come from should be a case study..

Tinubuadvocate:
Calling it village doesn't actually make it a village. This is urban settlement niggar.

Anthony Village in Lagos is a typical example

bennybuhari:
A typical village in UK and villages in Nigeria

When UK talk about villages, it includes good roads, electricity, clean water, hospitals and every other things the city enjoys.

When Nigerians talk about village, most likely muddy roads, no electricity, no clean water and brown roof and so on

Can we ever get there?

Anthony Village in Lagos is comparative. Definitely you don’t understand what is called VILLAGE

Hoelujohn:
With the types of leaders like Tinubu, Wike and Akpabio abi?

No, but with leaders like imPatience Jonathan, Chief Onanefe Ibori, Chief Mrs. Diezaini Allison-Madueke and Alhaji Atiku Abubakar