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budaatum:
Its getting harder to detect fakes. I'm building a new pc and came across the below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1wzeCCWaY

Along with


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDC22srJb8A?si=iqQiLOTxmAJEcR8O

What are you building?

I assume everything on aliexpress is fake.
But it is possible to get fooled even on Amazon as they sometimes cross inventory.
Buy from a place you trust or a place with a good return policy and thest the device.

Picked up the s25 ultra a few days ago, almost want to get a fake to see how good it is.
Crazy thing is some won't even care.

IjeBos:
That is a conversation that the US has to have.
Do people actually want cheaper good/services or do they think people should be paid a living wage.

it is really a late stage capitalism problem

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/

CEO pay has skyrocketed 1,460% since 1978 CEOs were paid 399 times as much as a typical worker in 2021

i mean we can see elon musk who spends all his time on twitter. or running around in the white house. so what time does he actually have to actually work? but greed is good so let ceos keep finding ways to increase their wages while reducing the wages of everyone else

the oil and gas industry in nigeria has some of the highest paid workers. those workers salaries drive the economy where they are based. but when a company like shell or texaco divests, the first thing the new owners go for is killing the unions, so they can reduce wages and redirect any savings to themselves and their cronies. now here is the thing. these owners are already rich. they have already set themselves up. so any extra money they are squeezing out of the company from contract staffing, from awarding jobs to family members - it is not going into the economy. it is going to pandora.

this is how you slow down the economy. this is also what happened in warri. when shell was in warri, the money flowed and the city thrived. shell has divested and nigerians have taken over. you will see the nigerian owners in pages of magzines as oil big boys, but the wealth is concentrated among them. it is not flowing down.

this is where america is today. most of the money is in the hands of a few who are only interested in growing it even more . Nigerians are told that abacha had a mental disease. well do do American billionaires. it is never enough for them . they want more and more and more even at the peoples expense - just like our politicians

i literally watched a ceo who raum knows of build a thriving company and kill it with his greed. same energy. the money is never enough.

Obrigardo:
The rapist trump is already a tyrant.
Guys, this is not a drill. The corrupt mf is enacting his dictatorial leanings.
Even as we are all seeing this chaos unfold, all by the rapist fascist trump's doing, bald headed maga cultists like basilico loco and crew will just keep on gaslighting all of us.

So basilico has a bald head?

Abeg dont kill me with laughter..

bemeruca:
BS. Where were they when Biden was doing it?

Do what? . I dont think you know the bone of contention here.

No wonder you are a Trump supporter

Android17:
When no one is fighting with you, you still find ways to start fights like an Ishmaelite. What is wrong with your mental health, Ije?

Are you chemically imbalanced?

What is it about people with itchy buttholes & picking fights with everyone?

You've spent pages spewing your nuttiness here.
You know you've gone off the deep end when you think Kash Patel is too left.
Oga, go rest.

GloriousGbola:
pauper - why are you pretending to be visually impaired . we know you are cognitively impaired, but damn - we didn't reaize you are also partially blind, deaf and dumb as a bag of rocks

okay, you dont know the logos for autocad or acrobat. i keep forgetting that you are a poser who has only ever used notepad

wretched poverty striken thing projecting his filthy reality

Using an Alcatel phone camera to take photos of the junk you are hoarding 😂 to impress me. Hahaha

GloriousGbola:
this is a link inside the articel

https://nypost.com/2024/06/05/business/democratic-senator-blasts-5b-program-as-failure-after-only-7-ev-charging-stations-open-in-3-years/



i suspect this is a big oil article

and it is obviously tangential

as i write this, my company has installed 10 charging stations in lagos . we are installing two more this week

public charging station are either ac or dc. dc are the fast charging ones . a fast charger dc is rated from 60kw to 120kw to 300kw . these can charge your vehicle in 30 minutes

installing the charger is only one part of the equation. the other part of the equation is where do you get the power from? and who pays for it?

we met with a guy who wanted to deploy 3 chargers for a bus terminal we did the maths and told him he would need a transformer to power them properly . who then pays for the power? so all those issues have to be addressed since this is public infrastructure . that is the part the article is skimming over

the other part you are missing is this is actually how you grow industries

obama took two chances in his admin - solynara and tesla. solynara failed, but without the loan, tesla would have failed as well and that is actually how governments create industries and jobs - not by tariffs

This $7bn that created 7 charging spots, under what do you charge that massive failure to? Tax payers as usual. After paying FG wages, FG consultants. It shows that govt should not be in the business of job creation as we all know its filled with bureaucracies and quota

Let the govt give the private sector incentives which makes their selling price competitive in the market.
If you know that your goods after production will compete with a Chinese product priced at 20% of the price why would you bother? But when you know you can compete favorably with the Chinese products then you can bet on yourself and gaining the market share

When you place tariffs on China and they smartly move their production to Taiwan to continue gaming the trade pact then you have to be smarter

budaatum:
Its getting harder to detect fakes. I'm building a new pc and came across the below.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb1wzeCCWaY

Along with


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xDC22srJb8A?si=iqQiLOTxmAJEcR8O

fortunately, you live in yankee. it is those of us who live in nigeria that are fked

when i order from the us - maybe i get it in two weeks. so return window has closed. not like i can send it back anyway. if you buy in nigeria it is how well you can drag with the seller. i actually bought a brand new 12tb hard drive over the weekend and it did not work. but the seller took it back , likely because we are regular customers and we do good business. a surprise but a welcome one

what you want to do is download the manufacturers ssd management tools to test the drive before you deploy

for samsung download samsung ssd magician
for crucial download crucial storage executive
solidign has a tool as well
so does sandisk

what i see people in yankee do these days is they make a full video from when they receive till they unbox so there is no accusation of fraud. because sometimes sellers may try to weasel out of replacing the item

these tools should theoretically tell you if your drive is fake or not
in addition you can also use crystal disk info, which will at the minimum tell you if your drive is brand new or not

also if you stick to buying from amazon prime you can easily return the item. [frankly no point in not buying from amazon prime as any other seller will add shipping costs]

IjeBos:
What are you building?

I assume everything on aliexpress is fake.
But it is possible to get fooled even on Amazon as they sometimes cross inventory.
Buy from a place you trust or a place with a good return policy and thest the device.

Picked up the s25 ultra a few days ago, almost want to get a fake to see how good it is.
Crazy thing is some won't even care.

that is my sentiment about aliexpress and temu. every once in a while on reddit, you see a post where someone bought a 1tb hard drive or flash drive for kicks to confirm it was a weighted box with an sd card inside, with its firmware changed to simulate 1tb. god help you if you back up serious data to it

in 2006, i was leaving my company to a new place and i bought a 1gb flash drive. the files would copy , but when i got home, they had turned to an unreadable mess.

may we be protected from fake drives and resultant data loss

GloriousGbola:
it is really a late stage capitalism problem

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/



i mean we can see elon musk who spends all his time on twitter. or running around in the white house. so what time does he actually have to actually work? but greed is good so let ceos keep finding ways to increase their wages while reducing the wages of everyone else

the oil and gas industry in nigeria has some of the highest paid workers. those workers salaries drive the economy where they are based. but when a company like shell or texaco divests, the first thing the new owners go for is killing the unions, so they can reduce wages and redirect any savings to themselves and their cronies. now here is the thing. these owners are already rich. they have already set themselves up. so any extra money they are squeezing out of the company from contract staffing, from awarding jobs to family members - it is not going into the economy. it is going to pandora.

this is how you slow down the economy. this is also what happened in warri. when shell was in warri, the money flowed and the city thrived. shell has divested and nigerians have taken over. you will see the nigerian owners in pages of magzines as oil big boys, but the wealth is concentrated among them. it is not flowing down.

this is where america is today. most of the money is in the hands of a few who are only interested in growing it even more . Nigerians are told that abacha had a mental disease. well do do American billionaires. it is never enough for them . they want more and more and more even at the peoples expense - just like our politicians

i literally watched a ceo who raum knows of build a thriving company and kill it with his greed. same energy. the money is never enough.

You're right.
The game is rigged.
Problem in the US is that we can't have that proper discussion.
Too many people have economic magical thinking.

GloriousGbola:
fortunately, you live in yankee. it is those of us who live in nigeria that are fked

He knows that which is why you saying you buy Samsung and WD is stupid when basilico alerted you about fake products.

raumdeuter:
This $7bn that created 7 charging spots, under what do you charge that massive failure to? Tax payers as usual. After paying FG wages, FG consultants. It shows that govt should not be in the business of job creation as we all know its filled with bureaucracies and quota

Let the govt give the private sector incentives which makes their selling price competitive in the market.
If you know that your goods after production will compete with a Chinese product priced at 20% of the price why would you bother? But when you know you can compete favorably with the Chinese products then you can bet on yourself and gaining the market share

When you place tariffs on China and they smartly move their production to Taiwan to continue gaming the trade pact then you have to be smarter

i think that article is playing with the truth - because it referenced a new york post article

As of December, the United States had 183,000 public charging ports and since the start of the Biden administration, the number of publicly available fast-charging ports has increased by 90%, Bhatt said, adding he is confident the US will hit the 500,000 charging port goal.

Let the govt give the private sector incentives which makes their selling price competitive in the market.
If you know that your goods after production will compete with a Chinese product priced at 20% of the price why would you bother? But when you know you can compete favorably with the Chinese products then you can bet on yourself and gaining the market share

the us lost the manufacturing battle when they outsourced. they are not going to win it back. china is far too established. what the us should be doing and that is where governments come in is create NEW industries that will be based in the us.

Trump Orders 900,000 Illegals Allowed Temporary Status by Biden to Leave the Country 'Immediately'

bemeruca:
He knows that which is why you saying you buy Samsung and WD is stupid when basilico alerted you about fake products.

pauper go an play with diskpart - smelly wretch

i know more about identifying used and fake hard drives and ssds that you know about trolling your betters and molesting children

go and google alcatel phones, dunce

GloriousGbola:
pauper go an play with diskpart - smelly wretch

i know more about identifying used and fake hard drives and ssds that you know about trolling your betters

go and google alcatel phones, dunce

You said how you identify them is just to buy Samsung or WD 😂😂😂

Elon Musk blasted President Trump’s top trade adviser, Peter Navarro, calling him a “slowpoke” and “dumber than a sack of bricks” on X as disagreement about the White House’s tariffs continue. In a press conference, White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt dismissed the internal fight as just a disagreement between “two individuals who have very different views on trade and on tariffs.”

News

GloriousGbola:
it is really a late stage capitalism problem

https://www.epi.org/publication/ceo-pay-in-2021/



i mean we can see elon musk who spends all his time on twitter. or running around in the white house. so what time does he actually have to actually work? but greed is good so let ceos keep finding ways to increase their wages while reducing the wages of everyone else

the oil and gas industry in nigeria has some of the highest paid workers. those workers salaries drive the economy where they are based. but when a company like shell or texaco divests, the first thing the new owners go for is killing the unions, so they can reduce wages and redirect any savings to themselves and their cronies. now here is the thing. these owners are already rich. they have already set themselves up. so any extra money they are squeezing out of the company from contract staffing, from awarding jobs to family members - it is not going into the economy. it is going to pandora.

this is how you slow down the economy. this is also what happened in warri. when shell was in warri, the money flowed and the city thrived. shell has divested and nigerians have taken over. you will see the nigerian owners in pages of magzines as oil big boys, but the wealth is concentrated among them. it is not flowing down.

this is where america is today. most of the money is in the hands of a few who are only interested in growing it even more . Nigerians are told that abacha had a mental disease. well do do American billionaires. it is never enough for them . they want more and more and more even at the peoples expense - just like our politicians

i literally watched a ceo who raum knows of build a thriving company and kill it with his greed. same energy. the money is never enough.

There is nothing wrong with capitalism, It has brought more people out of poverty than any other system, It has given humanity hope more than any other system, The govt still needs to do its part and make things competitive.
A CEO has a right to gather everything to himself, he is not doing a religious charity nor is it about morality. left to him the whole world will be in his pocket.

Its by creating opportunities that you grow your money and wealth,

E.g
Elon does not need SpaceX to be a Billionaire, it was his "Greed" that led to creating SpaceX that is helping the US govt with their space endeavors, Elon does not need to create Starlinks to be a billionaire, It was his "greed" that make him create it and now millions maybe billions all over the world are benefitting from it

Bezos for example is already a billionaire yet with his greed he created Amazon business which has made more opportunities for many people to feed their family by driving those trucks, many guys now feed their family by doing deliveries instead of living off welfare
Next he is starting an AI company which will provide solutions, make him richer and make many people under him rich as wel

I will rather have those who have a track record of creating wealth continue to do so, Instead of govt taxing the money off him to punish the wealthy so they can spend another 7bn to produce 7 EVs

Below is another example of how govt performs when it comes to efficiency

In 2021, the Biden Administration passed the Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act, which included a provision to give $42.5 billion to the Broadband Equity, Access, and Deployment (BEAD) program to provide under-served and rural areas with internet access. To date, it has connected nobody.
https://www.washingtonpolicy.org/publications/detail/the-42-billion-internet-program-that-has-connected-0-people

Read the part in bold and tell me it doesnt remind you of Nigeria? I wont blame Biden too much, though its the admin that normally takes the blame but thats the nature of govt everywhere. Its filled with bureaucracies and inefficiencies

It probably would cost way less to spend it on Starlinks vs How much Biden spent on BEAD program to connect 0 people while consultants, employees, contractors, lobbyists, middlemen have all been paid. That is the difference between trusting govt and trusting private businessmen who have done it many times over

raumdeuter:
There is nothing wrong with capitalism, It has brought more people out of poverty than any other system, It has given humanity hope more than any other system, The govt still needs to do its part and make things competitive.
A CEO has a right to gather everything to himself, he is not doing a religious charity nor is it about morality. left to him the whole world will be in his pocket.

Its by creating opportunities that you grow your money and wealth,

E.g
Elon does not need SpaceX to be a Billionaire, it was his "Greed" that led to creating SpaceX that is helping the US govt with their space endeavors, Elon does not need to create Starlinks to be a billionaire, It was his "greed" that make him create it and now millions maybe billions all over the world are benefitting from it

Bezos for example is already a billionaire yet with his greed he created Amazon business which has made more opportunities for many people to feed their family by driving those trucks, many guys now feed their family by doing deliveries instead of living off welfare
Next he is starting an AI company which will provide solutions, make him richer and make many people under him rich as wel

I will rather have those who have a track record of creating wealth continue to do so, Instead of govt taxing the money off him to punish the wealthy so they can spend another 7bn to produce 7 EVs

Below is another example of how govt performs when it comes to efficiency



Read the part in bold and tell me it doesnt remind you of Nigeria? I wont blame Biden too much, though its the admin that normally takes the blame but thats the nature of govt everywhere. Its filled with bureaucracies and inefficiencies

It probably would cost way less to spend it on Starlinks vs How much Biden spent on BEAD program to connect 0 people while consultants, employees, contractors, lobbyists, middlemen have all been paid. That is the difference between trusting govt and trusting private businessmen who have done it many times over

People want cheap goods
Companies want cheap labor and maximum profit.
chicken comes home to roost the country will collapse.

Those companies will open their headquarters in China.

Too much of everything is bad

GloriousGbola:
i think that article is playing with the truth - because it referenced a new york post article
the us lost the manufacturing battle when they outsourced. they are not going to win it back. china is far too established. what the us should be doing and that is where governments come in is create NEW industries that will be based in the us.

What industry has govt created successfully besides collecting money and blowing it? Its private people who check the people and see what they need then implement solutions

And what will stop the "new industries" from outsourcing also? As long as the cheap labor loophole exist and no govt policy to cover that e.g by tariffs

GloriousGbola:
fortunately, you live in yankee. it is those of us who live in nigeria that are fked

UK actually, where consumer laws protect us against fakes. No need for Amazon Prime neither, as free delivery usually just takes a few days longer without it, and I hate unnecessary subscriptions.

Testing on receipt is crucial so to discover fake and return in the returns window.

IjeBos:
What are you building?

I assume everything on aliexpress is fake.
But it is possible to get fooled even on Amazon as they sometimes cross inventory.
Buy from a place you trust or a place with a good return policy and thest the device.

Picked up the s25 ultra a few days ago, almost want to get a fake to see how good it is.
Crazy thing is some won't even care.

I'm building around an Intel® Core™ i5-12400F for my nephew. We ordered an ASUS PRIME H610M-A WIFI D4 Intel H610 LGA 1700 micro ATX from Ebuyer, but they messed us around so we went back to Amazon like we've done for everything else.

I'm sticking to Amazon from now on for their returns policy, and Ebay because of paypal protection.

budaatum:
UK actually, where consumer laws protect us against fakes. No need for Amazon Prime neither, as free delivery usually just takes a few days longer without it, and I hate unnecessary subscriptions.

Testing on receipt is crucial so to discover fake and return in the returns window.

if you game, one benefit of amazon prime is they give out free games

though the quality has been dropping

but free is free

https://primegaming.blog/

raumdeuter:
With the trade deals of the past 40yrs the middle class have been eroding, I travel through middle America and see many abandoned factories that you knew were once bubbling places with jobs

That is why wages cannot catch up, when you have 1000 people apply for 40 manufacturing jobs then the employer will logically lowball them

The American workers bargaining chip has been taken away

And yet, employers still choose to manufacture abroad, because they can't seem to lowball enough to make in America profitable.

Its not just for labour cost. The iphone guy mentioned the speed with which a factory in China can be refashioned due to design changes. What took days in China would have taken weeks if not months in USA. And China has more engineers too, so finding staff is much easier. Guess they start educating them in the womb so they can be qualified as children.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o

budaatum:
I'm building around an Intel® Core™ i5-12400F for my nephew. We ordered an ASUS PRIME H610M-A WIFI D4 Intel H610 LGA 1700 micro ATX from Ebuyer, but they messed us around so we went back to Amazon like we've done for everything else.

I'm sticking to Amazon from now on for their returns policy, and Ebay because of paypal protection.

brain fart for a moment

intel was in deep doo doo last year because of their overheating cpus

but it was 13th and 14th, not 12 . you're good. in my experience if you have enough drive bays, you don't need an nvme for games proper. great for you os. you can buy a sata ssd which is cheaper. i bought a 4tb qvo some years back . today there are 8tb samsung qvos. COD ready if you know what i mean [COD is over 100gb] also a good idea to keep your steam folder off your system drive. if your system crashes,and you reinstall, all you need to do is click on the steam executable and it will reinstall itself

budaatum:
And yet, employers still choose to manufacture abroad, because they can't seem to lowball enough to make in America profitable.

Its not just for labour cost. The iphone guy mentioned the speed with which a factory in China can be refashioned due to design changes. What took days in China would have taken weeks if not months in USA. And China has more engineers too, so finding staff is much easier. Guess they start educating them in the womb so they can be qualified as children.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EyyIrpf68SM

you made me remember this scene from silicon valley

one of the problems of oyibos is hubris. they taught those yellow fks would be docile forever - and the chinese played along

raumdeuter:
Then the iphone should cost whatever it takes. Which would you rather take cheaper goods or people having jobs

When you have cheaper goods and many are out of job, the few working will have to pay more to take care of them. There is nothing more disgraceful than having more and more of your working population depend on welfare

That depends.

As a consumer, I'd be more concerned with cost than whether others have jobs or not. If it's too expensive I'd look for cheaper alternatives.

As a manufacturer, cost too. If my product is too expensive, I'd sell less and make less profit, and neither would appeal to me nor to shareholders.

As a legislature, jobs. People with jobs are more likely to vote for me than those I make lose their jobs because I encourage offshoring.

Basically, different people would have different priorities.

budaatum:
And yet, employers still choose to manufacture abroad, because they can't seem to lowball enough to make in America profitable.

Its not just for labour cost. The iphone guy mentioned the speed with which a factory in China can be refashioned due to design changes. What took days in China would have taken weeks if not months in USA. And China has more engineers too, so finding staff is much easier. Guess they start educating them in the womb so they can be qualified as children.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9f5SQQKr5o

That is because China does not have as much regulations as US. To do anything in the US, you have to go through numerous regulations that ends up frustrating manufacturers.

budaatum:
That depends.

As a consumer, I'd be more concerned with cost than whether others have jobs or not. If it's too expensive I'd look for cheaper alternatives.

As a manufacturer, cost too. If my product is too expensive, I'd sell less and make less profit, and neither would appeal to me nor to shareholders.

As a legislature, jobs. People with jobs are more likely to vote for me than those I make lose their jobs because I encourage offshoring.

Basically, different people would have different priorities.

As a consumer your first priority is to have an income to afford your lifestyle, If anything is too expensive you buy a cheaper alternative but if you cant get a job then what? An income of $0 can buy $0 items. Only those who make money care about if things are expensive. If you have $0 it makes no difference if it costs $10 or $1000 both are out of your reach

As a legislature in America, its cheaper for you to just blame the rich instead of putting in policies that brings jobs and give your people have jobs which is what they have been doing since. A Democratic politician who made millions from politics will still blame the rich while doing nothing

As a manufacturer, if your product is too expensive, you find a way to make it cheaper by cutting the cost of production, if its labor cost then offshore since govt will turn a blind eye

raumdeuter:
Yet when Trump or the republicans try to cut taxes like you stated up there, the same liberals will flare up

Is that not because dump says he'd cut taxes for the wealthy?

If he cut taxes for middle income earners, not many would complain if they still get the same services they were getting before the cuts, but if he cuts tax for the billionaires who don't even use the services which might be cut due to lower tax revenue, of course I'd flare up.

I'd rather have the taxes, and school meals for those who need it, than a tax cut for Musk. It's the Nigerian in me. I've seen what happens in a society where tax is low. You get substandard schools, expensive health care, dirt not cleaned off the roads, and no safety net for the needy in dire straits. And worse is the very poor and ill-educated become so desperate that I'd need to pay extra to build a wall for my security.

IjeBos:
Their message is so discordant.
Depending on what they are arguing the will argue for completely contradictory things.

Literally everything they say they want they vote against 😟

raumdeuter:
That is because China does not have as much regulations as US. To do anything in the US, you have to go through numerous regulations that ends up frustrating manufacturers.

you are from nigeria where students have lost fingers while on it attachment
nigeria where you can be victimized for not helping your boss steal
nigeria where building collapse during constructin
nigeria where tankers fall when driving and catch fire

unless you think regression to days when death on the job was it is what it is

safety and process always adds time to a job . some would call it inefficient, until people get killed

that is what happens when frustrating regulations are bypassed

budaatum:
Is that not because dump says he'd cut taxes for the wealthy?

If he cut taxes for middle income earners, not many would complain if they still get the same services they were getting before the cuts, but if he cuts tax for the billionaires who don't even use the services which might be cut due to lower tax revenue, of course I'd flare up.

I'd rather have the taxes, and school meals for those who need it, than a tax cut for Musk. It's the Nigerian in me. I've seen what happens in a society where tax is low. You get substandard schools, expensive health care, dirt not cleaned off the roads, and no safety net for the needy in dire straits. And worse is the very poor and ill-educated become so desperate that I'd need to pay extra to build a wall for my security.

Trump cut taxes for everyone. Moreover its the rich and wealthy that have money to build industries that create jobs
When the govt tax them more they either take their money elsewhere or dont have enough to invest