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IjeBos:
You've spent pages spewing your nuttiness here.
You know you've gone off the deep end when you think Kash Patel is too left.
Oga, go rest.

raumdeuter:
The bottom line s you cant compete fairly with someone using a different standard. Its like you running a race with someone using banned steroids

China doesnt play fair, they manipulate their currency, they pay low wages, they dont care about their workers etc, Its either US meet them in using the same tactics or find other ways to counter them through tariffs

How can more regulations, taxing the rich and strong unions bring manufacturing, those 3 are all anti manufacturing. These are all the things absent in China which is why they are the manufacturing hub of the world

cococandy:
Exactly. America is on a different timeline in manufacturing. Highly inflated currency. Bigger wages. Publicly traded companies with investors who expect each quarter to be better than the last. Unending greed. There’s no way another country is going to get anything from us at a more affordable rate unless it’s something they can’t make for themselves.

We either keep reaping the benefits of those bigger wages and let things be the way they are or we come down to their level and then we can compete at the same standard. I do think this is an American problem that we shouldn’t blame others for. Tariffs will make us suffer more and if punishing Americans was the goal, then that solution makes sense. But I thought the goal was to make life easier for the average American.




You just pointed out how China pays dirt and uses child labor. Unless you think we should be in the trenches with them in manufacturing practices, this is the way for American manufacturers to keep a healthy workforce and not use child labor. Personally I’m against manufacturing in China just so it can be done by a hungry child. I’m for manufacturing in America. In safe spaces. Where the workers earn livable wages and there are regulations that protect the employees and the environment. It can be done with preparation and a little less greed

“The world has enough for everyone's need, but not enough for everyone's greed.”
― Mahatma Gandhi

GloriousGbola:
you are from nigeria where students have lost fingers while on it attachment
nigeria where you can be victimized for not helping your boss steal
nigeria where building collapse during constructin
nigeria where tankers fall when driving and catch fire

unless you think regression to days when death on the job was it is what it is

safety and process always adds time to a job . some would call it inefficient, until people get killed

that is what happens when frustrating regulations are bypassed

raumdeuter:
As a consumer your first priority is to have an income to afford your lifestyle, If anything is too expensive you buy a cheaper alternative but if you cant get a job then what? An income of $0 can buy $0 items. Only those who make money care about if things are expensive. If you have $0 it makes no difference if it costs $10 or $1000 both are out of your reach

raumdeuter:
As a legislature in America, its cheaper for you to just blame the rich instead of putting in policies that brings jobs and give your people have jobs which is what they have been doing since. A Democratic politician who made millions from politics will still blame the rich while doing nothing

raumdeuter:
As a manufacturer, if your product is too expensive, you find a way to make it cheaper by cutting the cost of production, if its labor cost then offshore since govt will turn a blind eye

budaatum:
I'm building around an Intel® Core™ i5-12400F for my nephew. We ordered an ASUS PRIME H610M-A WIFI D4 Intel H610 LGA 1700 micro ATX from Ebuyer, but they messed us around so we went back to Amazon like we've done for everything else.

I'm sticking to Amazon from now on for their returns policy, and Ebay because of paypal protection.

descarado:
Red states, white states,black states, the ruling class should come together and fight this volatility before it will swallow America.
Ukraine Russian war exposed a lot of hidden truth and emboldened some countries to see the yansh of America.
People can talk politics but, the truth remains that the earlier the better for America.

People might think trump is taking this too far but that's the only option to keep America on the number one spot which is already slipping out of their hands..

Heaven help America if China become the world's number one economy, that's when they will know they have more enemies than friends.

Android17:
At no point did I mention Kash Patel and left. A reasonable person would have pressed me further on my vote of no confidence in him, but you're too demented to pretend you are reasonable.

We can all see that you are an osu; an outcast with a very itchy butthole that you allow other osus fvck you. You degenerate sodomite.

cococandy:
Exactly. America is on a different timeline in manufacturing. Highly inflated currency. Bigger wages. Publicly traded companies with investors who expect each quarter to be better than the last. Unending greed. There’s no way another country is going to get anything from us at a more affordable rate unless it’s something they can’t make for themselves.

cococandy:
We either keep reaping the benefits of those bigger wages and let things be the way they are or we come down to their level and then we can compete at the same standard. I do think this is an American problem that we shouldn’t blame others for. Tariffs will make us suffer more and if punishing Americans was the goal, then that solution makes sense. But I thought the goal was to make life easier for the average American.

cococandy:
You just pointed out how China pays dirt and uses child labor. Unless you think we should be in the trenches with them in manufacturing practices, this is the way for American manufacturers to keep a healthy workforce and not use child labor. Personally I’m against manufacturing in China just so it can be done by a hungry child. I’m for manufacturing in America. In safe spaces. Where the workers earn livable wages and there are regulations that protect the employees and the environment. It can be done with preparation and a little less greed

IjeBos:
Nice setup. I know there are tradeoffs, but have you considered a MB with a usb-c port.
Not sure if you have a Microcenter in the UK, but that's one of my favorite stores and where I get a ton of my components.
Also, not sure about reliability now, but I got some components from Newegg as well.

Sounds fun for you and your nephew.
Was planning to do something similar with my niece with my older itx setup. But she says she wants a purple glitter case with purple lights.. There goes a Saturday, sanding a case and cleaning my spray gun. should have closed my mouth.

GloriousGbola:
this here is one of the key differences of doing it in naija vs doing it in obodo oyibo

i just buy a laptop, max out ram and ssd , install the game stores and call it a day. yes you can order but there is just too much risk you will pick some wrong items and be stuck

cococandy:
That’s why I pick who I support between the two parties carefully.
For a while now you might have heard how the Democrats are communists etc. it’s because the Democratic Party has been the party interested in protecting worker’s rights, protecting the environment, curbing corporate greed etc. Republicans spin it as communism and sell it to their voters as the worst thing ever and they run with it.

If not for the efforts of democrats, the small regulations and standards we have now, we wouldn’t have them. Republicans always want to pay the lowest wages possible, keep children out of school to go labor and reward oligarchs with more and more profits. It has gotten too top heavy and at the risk of collapse from the top down.

Trump is a symptom not a solution to this systemic problem. People want to laud him for being a billionaire but forget all his products are manufactured in China at the cost of cents and he resells them here at a bewildering profit margin. He’s the embodiment of the problem.

I don’t think any other system is 100% better than capitalism but they can be combined and curtailed where necessary so that everyone can thrive. Communism might deter innovation but unbridled capitalism will lead us to a Mad Max like apocalyptic era.
Flat socialism might not be the solution but it has its uses in the society not just for propping up billionaires.

cococandy:
That’s why I pick who I support between the two parties carefully.
For a while now you might have heard how the Democrats are communists etc. it’s because the Democratic Party has been the party interested in protecting worker’s rights, protecting the environment, curbing corporate greed etc. Republicans spin it as communism and sell it to their voters as the worst thing ever and they run with it.

If not for the efforts of democrats, the small regulations and standards we have now, we wouldn’t have them. Republicans always want to pay the lowest wages possible, keep children out of school to go labor and reward oligarchs with more and more profits. It has gotten too top heavy and at the risk of collapse from the top down.

Trump is a symptom not a solution to this systemic problem. People want to laud him for being a billionaire but forget all his products are manufactured in China at the cost of cents and he resells them here at a bewildering profit margin. He’s the embodiment of the problem.

I don’t think any other system is 100% better than capitalism but they can be combined and curtailed where necessary so that everyone can thrive. Communism might deter innovation but unbridled capitalism will lead us to a Mad Max like apocalyptic era.
Flat socialism might not be the solution but it has its uses in the society not just for propping up billionaires.

GloriousGbola:
this here is one of the key differences of doing it in naija vs doing it in obodo oyibo

i just buy a laptop, max out ram and ssd , install the game stores and call it a day. yes you can order but there is just too much risk you will pick some wrong items and be stuck

raumdeuter:
From examples we have seen Capitalist societies are by far the most succesful while the others bring untold poverty and misery

I saw a video of Cuba a few ays ago and you cant even feel safe walking the street when everyone there is obviously poor, and wretched, a place where Meical doctors earn the equivalent of $40 a month. Why parents throw their kids on wooden rafts to enter prosperity in the US

The prosperity that Capitalism brings is why the same people of similar genes risk bullets and landmines to move from North Korea to South Korea
It was why East Germans flooded to West Germany and not the other way round

Capitalism for all its flaws is by far incomparable to other systems which breeds poverty and misery

Human beings are naturally greedy and Greed is what drives innovation.

If the left have their way, we will be like USSR now full fledged communism

raumdeuter:
From examples we have seen Capitalist societies are by far the most succesful while the others bring untold poverty and misery

I saw a video of Cuba a few ays ago and you cant even feel safe walking the street when everyone there is obviously poor, and wretched, a place where Meical doctors earn the equivalent of $40 a month. Why parents throw their kids on wooden rafts to enter prosperity in the US

The prosperity that Capitalism brings is why the same people of similar genes risk bullets and landmines to move from North Korea to South Korea
It was why East Germans flooded to West Germany and not the other way round

Capitalism for all its flaws is by far incomparable to other systems which breeds poverty and misery

Human beings are naturally greedy and Greed is what drives innovation.

If the left have their way, we will be like USSR now full fledged communism

raumdeuter:
From examples we have seen Capitalist societies are by far the most succesful while the others bring untold poverty and misery

I saw a video of Cuba a few ays ago and you cant even feel safe walking the street when everyone there is obviously poor, and wretched, a place where Meical doctors earn the equivalent of $40 a month. Why parents throw their kids on wooden rafts to enter prosperity in the US

The prosperity that Capitalism brings is why the same people of similar genes risk bullets and landmines to move from North Korea to South Korea
It was why East Germans flooded to West Germany and not the other way round

Capitalism for all its flaws is by far incomparable to other systems which breeds poverty and misery

Human beings are naturally greedy and Greed is what drives innovation.

If the left have their way, we will be like USSR now full fledged communism

Ibime:
The daily 1-3% declines have now morphed into 5% after liberation day. Dollar has also tanked 10% since January

If you understand America, you will know it's a money market, not a manufacturing market. While chasing low billions in manufacturing "ear and dear", the bleed in capital flight is measured in trillions. What America sells is freedom, rule of law, open markets and Trust. The dumb nativists will never understand this.

Ibime:
In a money market, you make your living in value adding. Sales, Insurance etc while there will always be blue collar jobs for those who are that way inclined - building, plumber, electrician, fishermen etc

Standing in factory assembly line is old news for any rich economy. You don't have to make iPhone, there is more money to be made selling structured finance for an iPhone and data plans. Let the Chinese make those shits. Where do you think the money is, in making an iPhone with input cost of $20, or in services, sales and logistics in the other $980 that makes iPhone final sales price land at $1k?

Just like the money in Cocoa is not in the production of Cocoa by the farmer in Africa which involves much labour for pennies of input cost, but the efforts that go into creating value to land at the $10 Dubai chocolate which is taking over social media now.

How many Americans can you employ in manufacturing today, even at an inflection point when AI and automation have taken over.

Trillions of wealth have been wiped off for some tens of billions of investment, including 401ks, investments etc, disposable income that will make you do that house extension and give work to Bob the builder and Joe the Plumber.

They should hurry up and crash the markets quickly and fully, drop interest rates and reintroduce quantitative easing so those of us waiting on the sidelines can start to deploy

BTW unemployment is at historic lows so the money market is working perfectly in providing jobs, people just need to shift their expectations of what working life looks like now Vs 50 years ago

When you signal to the World you are unreliable, rent-seeking, policy flipflopping and anti open markets, yet the main reason you are rich is because of the Trust (in dollar, rule of law, open markets) that makes the world put their money into your markets, you are hustling backward.

cococandy:
I’m not arguing for communism and that statement about the left turning us to USSR is just plain false. You know that too.

Glad we can agree on the faults of capitalism. I think something can be done about these faults. Nothing left unchecked turns out well. The greed that’s the driving force of capitalism left unchecked will lead to our ruin. We will be a desolate wasteland where even the bots will be killing each other and their makers to amass whatever is left for themselves.

I think there can be a balance. Otherwise it’s just going to be anarchy down the line for the next generation.

The UK has lost a millionaire every 45 minutes since Labour came to power, study claims
The UK has lost a millionaire every 45 minutes since Labour came to power according to new data, as experts said the exodus was being driven by Rachel Reeves’ controversial Budget.

Britain lost a net 10,800 millionaires last year, a 157 per cent increase on 2023, including 78 centi-millionaires (worth at least £100 million) and 12 billionaires.
https://uk.news.yahoo.com/uk-lost-millionaire-every-45-113638110.html

GloriousGbola:
But Is Cuba poor because of communism or because the US has embargoed it?

raumdeuter:
Of course they will tell you the social programs make it worth it
Free healthcare like the Canadian lady who needs an MRI to check if she has brain cancer and her appointment is in 2026


cococandy you are in Healthcare Imagine if your patients have to wait over a year to get an MRI, that is what 30% communism looks like, Now imagine 60 or 90%

Thank God for saving us from the communist agenda of the Democratic party. Thank God Kamala lost

Android17:
Notice how Kash Patel won't even talk about investigating the first attempt?

I'm losing confidence in him as well.

raumdeuter:
Goodluck to the countries that think Trump and America is bad when they have to deal with Chinese Communist Party. If anyone thinks China will be doing the foolish father Xmas of America of the past 40yrs they should ask African countries where Chinese have been exploiting them

In America you at least have laws to hold them to, Good luck holding a Chinese manufacturer to anything

Our Post cold war foreign policies have to be revamped massively. You cannot play a game with someone using a differnt rule

China does not play by our rules, So its unwise to continue with status quo with them

raumdeuter:
The bottom line s you cant compete fairly with someone using a different standard. Its like you running a race with someone using banned steroids

China doesnt play fair, they manipulate their currency, they pay low wages, they dont care about their workers etc, Its either US meet them in using the same tactics or find other ways to counter them through tariffs

How can more regulations, taxing the rich and strong unions bring manufacturing, those 3 are all anti manufacturing. These are all the things absent in China which is why they are the manufacturing hub of the world

raumdeuter:
You are too dumb to understand anything

Only dumb people believed Biden did anything

raumdeuter:
You are too dumb to understand anything

Only dumb people believed Biden did anything

GloriousGbola:
this is a link inside the articel

https://nypost.com/2024/06/05/business/democratic-senator-blasts-5b-program-as-failure-after-only-7-ev-charging-stations-open-in-3-years/



i suspect this is a big oil article

and it is obviously tangential

as i write this, my company has installed 10 charging stations in lagos . we are installing two more this week

public charging station are either ac or dc. dc are the fast charging ones . a fast charger dc is rated from 60kw to 120kw to 300kw . these can charge your vehicle in 30 minutes

installing the charger is only one part of the equation. the other part of the equation is where do you get the power from? and who pays for it?

we met with a guy who wanted to deploy 3 chargers for a bus terminal we did the maths and told him he would need a transformer to power them properly . who then pays for the power? so all those issues have to be addressed since this is public infrastructure . that is the part the article is skimming over

the other part you are missing is this is actually how you grow industries

obama took two chances in his admin - solynara and tesla. solynara failed, but without the loan, tesla would have failed as well and that is actually how governments create industries and jobs - not by tariffs