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feedthenation:
---China exports to US has been reduced from 21.6% to 13.4%, the impact of this tariff is much smaller than Felon 47 first term---It has been able to diversify trade to every corner of the world and today it's the largest trading partner to 160 countries---By the way the China exports to US account for only 2% of China 19 trillions economy. Of course the 104% tariff will be felt---

---How do Felon 47 and his MAGAdiots expect China to make a call and negotiate a trade deal---

budaatum:
I do think it's much better than having to go bankrupt buying healthcare. And I bet that 2026 is an exaggeration. Wait for a non-cancer MRI is less than 6 weeks here in socialist UK if your doctor refers you.

budaatum:
I notice you left China out of your list of communist countries. Glad you did, because its become capitalist since they abandoned Maoism.

If you had included China, I could gave said, "look at China". But you didn't, and took the wind right out of my sails.

https://youtu.m3SUG3rug?si=EgSAlM_0UR-D3DlL

budaatum:
Those millionaires they say we lost are mostly what is called non-doms.

Non-doms only pay UK tax on the money they earn in the UK. They do not have to pay tax to the UK government on money made elsewhere in the world (unless they pay that money into a UK bank account). And smarty, they don't earn or invest in UK, so create no jobs but benefit from our societal structure.

Basically tax dodgers. Good riddance.

basilico:
Trump is milking liberation day fir all it's worth . Over 70 countries have called scheduling for negotiations

Bessent notes at the request of President Trump, all administration officials were to pull back from commentary following the “liberation day” tariff announcement. The objective was to give all nations’ time to absorb the impact while reducing the reverberation noise.

After a few days, President Trump then began to assess the inbound communication from various country leaders and their request for renegotiation. The priority schedule permits the honest trade allies to come first in the que to the office of U.S. Trade Representative Jamison Greer, as approved by President Trump.
The first two countries to get listened to are.
Japan
Korea

Not China , .not the EU.
The agreements reached between Japan and Korea will set the baseline for any further dealsxeith other countries

GloriousGbola:
this is actually why some people are cheering on trump as he scatters the US . because US citizens have always been isolated from the realities american policies cause in other countries

Gadaffi is dead and now his stockpile of arms are in the hands of herdsmen . herdsmen have always been a menace, right from my days in secondary school, but now they are an outright threat. likely some of those arms get to boko haram as well. we are all feeling it one way or another in west afrcica in general and nigeria n particular

more important is this team is a complete gang of cosplayers with no idea what they are doing. the long term result of ousting saddam was isis. who knows what the long term result of destabilizing iran would be?

unfortunately these guys see it all as a movie where the story ends when the credits roll and the 'hero' rides off into the sunset. see also rambo 3 and the brave mujadeen

https://www.ybe.com/watch?v=tDiwhtcVrbw

basilico:
Trump is milking liberation day fir all it's worth . Over 70 countries have called scheduling for negotiations

Bessent notes at the request of President Trump, all administration officials were to pull back from commentary following the “liberation day” tariff announcement. The objective was to give all nations’ time to absorb the impact while reducing the reverberation noise.

After a few days, President Trump then began to assess the inbound communication from various country leaders and their request for renegotiation. The priority schedule permits the honest trade allies to come first in the que to the office of U.S. Trade Representative Jamison Greer, as approved by President Trump.
The first two countries to get listened to are.
Japan
Korea

Not China , .not the EU.
The agreements reached between Japan and Korea will set the baseline for any further dealsxeith other countries

cococandy:
I guess it won’t sound so dramatic when you say it how it actually is. You have to dramatize and embellish for shock value.

feedthenation:
---China is ready for the long-haul on the tariff war---with additional 84%---

https://www.foxbusiness.com/live-news/stock-futures-under-pressure-as-tariffs-take-hold-live-updates

raumdeuter:
Is Trump not doing the opposite? Staying away from other countries business and only caring for Americans interest

When Jamal Kashoghi was killed by the Saudi prince, another American president would have started a righteous holy war against the Saudis to teach them about democracy like Obama did to Libya that you mentioned and destabilized the entire region more than it is currently.

Trump is basically saying it's America first, we mind our business in whatever does not concern American lives. We are no longer world police using tools like USAID

Yet you complain about this Trump but hail the other interventionist US president who insert themselves into internal affair of every country

feedthenation:
---Doubt which 70 countries have called in---the initial tariffs were only extended to 60 countries for a start---but China is certainly not one of them---

bemeruca:
Temu and aliexpress will start selling expensive fake things. China is losing this one.

GloriousGbola:
during ww2 america said not our business until it became their business. that is the way it works. you guys want to relearn the lessons of ww2. you say greed is good. dictators say the same. hitler decided he wanted the resources of his neighbors and he kept ion expanding - because like you say greed is good, and that is really all that matters

americans said it was not their business - until japan bombed pearl harbor. today russia is also expanding in west africa. greed is good. we are big brother nigeria and it is not our business, until we see demonstrators waving Russian flags and realize it actually is our business

charles taylor started his mess in liberia. then he expanded to sierra leone. if big brother nigeria said not our business, who know what the map would look like today ? how many more countries would taylor have destabilized in his mad dash for resources ?


i have a friend who lives in lekki. house with a high fence , dogs the whole works. for months all his neighbors were being robbed, but his house was impregnable. then one night he woke up to the robbers in his bedroom. they told him he better have something for them, because they worked to get into his house. that is what hapens with greed and bullies. it will never be enough. and if you ignore teh bullies long enough, they can grow big enough to take you one


same way american greed meant everyone was looking away and saying not my business until china became a behemoth that could not be pushed around.

America kneecapped Japanese industry in the 1980s with the semi conductor agreement. but china is more powerful and not a client state, so that will not work

neither will trumps tariffs. all that will happen is that americans purchasing power will drop, and americans will have to abandon consumerism for sustainability

America came out of W2 largely unscathed and wiser heads used that opportunity to build american hegemony. today you are cheering as it is all thrown away. would you have emigrated to an america of the low wages trump is chasing? would it have been worth it?

GloriousGbola:
during ww2 america said not our business until it became their business. that is the way it works. you guys want to relearn the lessons of ww2. you say greed is good. dictators say the same. hitler decided he wanted the resources of his neighbors and he kept ion expanding - because like you say greed is good, and that is really all that matters

americans said it was not their business - until japan bombed pearl harbor. today russia is also expanding in west africa. greed is good. we are big brother nigeria and it is not our business, until we see demonstrators waving Russian flags and realize it actually is our business

charles taylor started his mess in liberia. then he expanded to sierra leone. if big brother nigeria said not our business, who know what the map would look like today ? how many more countries would taylor have destabilized in his mad dash for resources ?


i have a friend who lives in lekki. house with a high fence , dogs the whole works. for months all his neighbors were being robbed, but his house was impregnable. then one night he woke up to the robbers in his bedroom. they told him he better have something for them, because they worked to get into his house. that is what hapens with greed and bullies. it will never be enough. and if you ignore teh bullies long enough, they can grow big enough to take you one


same way american greed meant everyone was looking away and saying not my business until china became a behemoth that could not be pushed around.

America kneecapped Japanese industry in the 1980s with the semi conductor agreement. but china is more powerful and not a client state, so that will not work

neither will trumps tariffs. all that will happen is that americans purchasing power will drop, and americans will have to abandon consumerism for sustainability

America came out of W2 largely unscathed and wiser heads used that opportunity to build american hegemony. today you are cheering as it is all thrown away. would you have emigrated to an america of the low wages trump is chasing? would it have been worth it?

feedthenation:
---In what way will China lose---when the devaluation of the yuan will make Chinese products so much cheaper for Non-US customers---other markets will be opened which is excellent news for no tariff countries---i'm totally against the cheap / inferior products from China---

feedthenation:
---In what way will China lose---when the devaluation of the yuan will make Chinese products so much cheaper for Non-US customers---other markets will be opened which is excellent news for no tariff countries---i'm totally against the cheap / inferior products from China---

GloriousGbola:
during ww2 america said not our business until it became their business. that is the way it works. you guys want to relearn the lessons of ww2. you say greed is good. dictators say the same. hitler decided he wanted the resources of his neighbors and he kept ion expanding - because like you say greed is good, and that is really all that matters

americans said it was not their business - until japan bombed pearl harbor. today russia is also expanding in west africa. greed is good. we are big brother nigeria and it is not our business, until we see demonstrators waving Russian flags and realize it actually is our business

charles taylor started his mess in liberia. then he expanded to sierra leone. if big brother nigeria said not our business, who know what the map would look like today ? how many more countries would taylor have destabilized in his mad dash for resources ?


i have a friend who lives in lekki. house with a high fence , dogs the whole works. for months all his neighbors were being robbed, but his house was impregnable. then one night he woke up to the robbers in his bedroom. they told him he better have something for them, because they worked to get into his house. that is what hapens with greed and bullies. it will never be enough. and if you ignore teh bullies long enough, they can grow big enough to take you one


same way american greed meant everyone was looking away and saying not my business until china became a behemoth that could not be pushed around.

America kneecapped Japanese industry in the 1980s with the semi conductor agreement. but china is more powerful and not a client state, so that will not work

neither will trumps tariffs. all that will happen is that americans purchasing power will drop, and americans will have to abandon consumerism for sustainability

America came out of W2 largely unscathed and wiser heads used that opportunity to build american hegemony. today you are cheering as it is all thrown away. would you have emigrated to an america of the low wages trump is chasing? would it have been worth it?

raumdeuter:
America interferes in Libya you complain that they are destabilizing Nigeria

America refuse to interfere in internal politics you still complain

What exactly do you want? Interference or mind your business

basilico:
So China devalues the Yuan. Its products become cheaper to export.
Chinese economy takes to the stratosphere
Problem solved.

That suggestion could you an honorary PhD. Spread it.

bemeruca:
You are still pained! 😂😂

You were the one trying to impress me with computers from 2013 and taped peripherals.

So you finally accept I am in yankee 😂 you don they Tire to envy.

When was the last time you bought a landfill laptop?

Android17:
At no point did I mention Kash Patel and left. A reasonable person would have pressed me further on my vote of no confidence in him, but you're too demented to pretend you are reasonable.

We can all see that you are an osu; an outcast with a very itchy butthole that you allow other osus fvck you. You degenerate sodomite.

raumdeuter:
Automation will lead to loss of jobs, But you cannot have automation screwing you from one side and offshoring from the other side

IjeBos:
That is a conversation that the US has to have.
Do people actually want cheaper good/services or do they think people should be paid a living wage.

budaatum:
Purple lights, lol. My nephew wants lights too, so I've told him he has to pay the electric bill in the house and he agreed. Plan is to learn to build for my super rig in the future sometime, so we'd be selling this build. He convinced me lights are a selling point.

We struggled getting a motherboard. One with a usb-c port we ordered from Ebuyer could not be delivered, and we'd already got the other components, so we've gone with what is available quick. Will definitely take more time to get the components we want for our next build. It might be an AMD. As GloriousGbola said, 13 and 14 gen Intel is crappy.

GloriousGbola:
this is actually why some people are cheering on trump as he scatters the US . because US citizens have always been isolated from the realities american policies cause in other countries

Gadaffi is dead and now his stockpile of arms are in the hands of herdsmen . herdsmen have always been a menace, right from my days in secondary school, but now they are an outright threat. likely some of those arms get to boko haram as well. we are all feeling it one way or another in west afrcica in general and nigeria n particular

more important is this team is a complete gang of cosplayers with no idea what they are doing. the long term result of ousting saddam was isis. who knows what the long term result of destabilizing iran would be?

unfortunately these guys see it all as a movie where the story ends when the credits roll and the 'hero' rides off into the sunset. see also rambo 3 and the brave mujadeen


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDiwhtcVrbw

Omofaye99:
This is what I was trying to help bemeruca see. The uncertainty that would arise from a destabilized Iran is a concern we should all take seriously.

Omofaye99:
I think we both can agree that automation and offshoring threaten American jobs. This is why many view Trump as out of touch, you can’t fight the entire world when you're already at a disadvantage.

cococandy:
Half the time you guys are raving against communism you can’t even differentiate between that and socialism. Just repeating what your party leaders tell you is fact.

Just cause you say Kamala had a communist agenda doesn’t make it so. What it means is that you guys are unable to comprehend for yourselves what those systems actually mean but you believe it’s going to happen because republican leaders told you so.

What actually ends up happening is that you vote to extend your retirement age. Increase lack of access to affordable healthcare. Promote authoritarianism and fascism like is clearly happening now. And of course your chances of going bankrupt from a simple hospital stay skyrockets.

As someone in healthcare I’ll tell you for free that you would be more at risk under unbridled capitalism than any other system. Like you said when that CEO was shot in NY, the insurance companies have to make money and if it be at the cost of our lives or the lives of our loved ones, then so be it. Those were your sentiments.

The reason why we don’t have a healthcare catastrophe on our hands at the moment is because of socialist healthcare programs like Obamacare, Medicare and Medicaid. Remove these systems that democrats have fought to defend for the people and adopt strict capitalist healthcare systems and watch America combust.

You (generic) would be left to die because saving you won’t be profitable. That’s unbridled capitalism for you. Be careful what you wish for.

To reiterate, there’s need for a balanced checked capitalist economy. Not unbridled capitalism where greed is king. If you don’t agree, I have nothing else to say to you on the topic of capitalism versus other economic systems.

basilico:
China tariffs are at 104% today. Apple flew in 5 cargo planes before the tariffs kicked in.
Will be a protracted war. As I've noted elsewhere, Japan and Korea will be the first to hold trade talks with Trump admin.
China cancelled 185 Boeing orders (around $10-12B) in favour of their commercial airline supplier COMAC though most of it was largely Boeing.

Trump wasn't happy about that

GloriousGbola:
short answer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32iCWzpDpKs

short answer

america used to be dicks - now trump is transitioning america into an arsehole that covers the world in shit