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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 8:08pm On Apr 09, 2025
Obrigardo:
The rapist fascist trump is a complete loser. I'll definitely pay to piss on his grave.
Is this what basilico loco calls a strong man?
And the bald head maga cultists come here everyday defending the cock sucker.
---Felon 47 needed to pause the tariff to get the budget deal done so the billionaires and corporations can get the tax cuts---as he had lost the votes to pass it with a very slim majority---

OR

---He’s manipulating the stock market---like the message on his Truth Social this morning before the pausing announcement---

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:08pm On Apr 09, 2025
armyofone:
Chai! Kai !

Wakanda game of throne is this on and off switch dark and light upanddown shocked grin

Hmmmmm
Why are maga cultists not yet ashamed of this rapist is beyond me. After wiping out the retirement pension of maga cultists, he's now playing 12d chess. They are all bunch of losers!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 8:10pm On Apr 09, 2025
feedthenation:
---Felon 47 needed to pause the tariff to get the budget deal done so the billionaires and corporations can get the tax cuts---as he had lost the votes to pass it with a very slim majority---

OR

---He’s manipulating the stock market---like the message on his Truth Social this morning before the pausing announcement---
Nothing good ever comes from the Rapist.
Do you know the fúcker is still running his crypto scam 80 days in? What a criminal!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:37pm On Apr 09, 2025
I didn’t say take the profits away from healthcare. You keep trying to get me to defend a position I didn’t adopt.

I reiterate my position which is unbridled capitalism.

Take for example Two healthcare systems HCA versus Kaiser. HCA practices unbridled capitalism. They do not follow safe staffing ratios. They put critically ill patients in observation units instead of transferring out as needed. They will staff critical care nurses above the recommended safe limits so that your critically ill family member is not receiving the level of monitoring they need for their dire situation. All so they can save on staffing costs.

Kaiser practices safe staffing ratios because the law where they are mandates it. Not necessarily because they are kind angels. The regulations stipulated by the unions demand that if a patient ticks certain markers in the acuity scale, they have to be transferred to a higher level of care or their nurse has to have fewer patients to be able to adequately monitor.



Both of these companies make hundreds of billions of dollars in profit annually but only one is allowed to never feel it’s enough. To keep trying to skimp and save at the expense of human lives.

That’s the unbridled capitalism I’m talking about. Greed is king is a death drum that if we keep beating will eventually swallow us all.

For legal purposes the examples above are all alleged.

raumdeuter:
You need to see how other countries live to appreciate what you have in the US. There is no country I would rather live in than US

You want to know the impact of capitalism on Healthcare? Check the percentages of hospitals owned by private entities. Those private entities the main reasons they are building hospitals is for one major thing Money and profits. Actually private equities own about 10% of US hospitals. What do you think Private Equities are owning hospitals for?

So without the incentive for profits we will mostly be left with govt owned hospitals which only makes up 20% of current hospitals

In say a big metroplex like say Chicago if they have a total of 50 big hospitals(Trauma 1 to trauma 3), that means they will be 10 govt owned and the rest 40 hospitals will be between Faith orgaizations, charities, private ownerships including Private equities

That means these private profit seeking investment in Healthcare will employ more healthcare workers providing jobs, that means more people are covered and taken care of while the private equity makes their profit, everyone benefit

Now a scenario where we go for universal healthcare, private insurance companies leave the scene, that means the profit incentive leaves and most private investor leave the space.

A city like Chicago will go from 50 hospitals to 10 govt plus say 10 charity/faith based. So effectively from 50 to 20 hospitals. How does that not create a much bigger problem than the current system? That is how you start having people waiting for over 1yr to get a brain MRI scan where you can get in most US hospitals same day

This is why Emergency room wait times in US is about 2hrs 30mins while in Canada with Universal Healthcare its 23hours. 23hrs in ER. Then why is it EMERGENCY again?

https://www.cma.ca/latest-stories/insight-why-are-patients-spending-22-hours-emergency-room-waiting-hospital-bed

In 23hrs of waiting you can drive from Vancouver Canada to Tijuana Mexico crossing the entire US while a patient is still waiting to see a doctor in Ontario for an EMERGENCY

As someone in Healthcare you know every minute count for a patient in an emergency, Now waiting almost 1 day

Is this what you want for American healthcare? You will say no, but that is what happens when you take profit away, you take the incentive for private investors, you don't want their GREED in Healthcare, then they will take their GREED to somewhere else


This is just an example in Healthcare sector, we can do that to every sector, when you demonize profit making and call it GREED, they take their money elsewhere, the poor people suffer more

Or Do you think a rich man, his wife or kids in Canada will wait for 20hrs in an Emergency room or rather use his money to find a place he can pay and get service instantly

That is the problem with communism socialism and every variant of it, you say you want to punish the rich, eat the rich at the end of the day, the rich have other means to get by, its the poor who suffer more. Take 80% of Bezos wealth he is still rich, rather its the millions who make their living from him that will suffer

The worst form of capitalism is better than the best of communism
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:43pm On Apr 09, 2025
IjeBos:
Thought this was an Onion headline.
It's not.
What until you read the definition of "antisemitism".
Basically anyone that doesn’t kiss up to Satanyanhu’s arse while he tortures children to death.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:47pm On Apr 09, 2025
basilico:
There were days a single working parent would raise their children, educate them,buy a house and retire in comfort.
How many are in gainful employment, not needing 2 or 3 jobs to pay their bills.
Which period in time are we talking about? How big were their houses? How many cars did the average family drive? What kind of food did they eat in what quantities? Where did they spend their holidays? How often? How many pieces of clothes and pairs of shoes did they own?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:48pm On Apr 09, 2025
cococandy:
Basically anyone that doesn’t kiss up to Satanyanhu’s arse while he tortures children to death.
Or has them shot playing in front of their parents’ house.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:53pm On Apr 09, 2025
The number of people that will die without these socialist healthcare programs is not something anyone should imagine. A third of the country’s population. Mostly older people and of course veterans will die . (Because tricare for vets is a form of socialized medicine even though people don’t like admit it.)

Also the community clinics that are going to close, uncountable. Democrats keep fighting for them and the lives of their loved ones and all they get in return in ingratitude.

Saw many Trump voters on interview demanding Obamacare be scrapped but ask them what healthcare they have, they’ll say it’s the ACA. “Bro you’re under Obamacare. You want your healthcare gone?” Then they start staring at you vacantly because they don’t even know what’s going on. They’ve just be propagandized to so much that they’ll put their limbs on a table and hand you an axe to chop it off if they believe they’re getting back at the dems 🫢

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ObaIgwe1:
Why do you think the person waiting for over 1yr to get a brain MRI scan chose to wait? Or are there no hospitals owned by private entities in Canada that can provide this MRI scan under 24hrs? Or what stops her from travelling abroad for it? Don't you think the problem might just be because she cannot afford the service under these private entities owned hospitals?

Now if we remove social interventions like Medicare, ACA and Medicaid that your party is doing overtime to remove, reduce Government intervention in Health Services and then promote more private entities owned hospitals, with their corporate greed, with no regulations; what percentage of Americans do you think will be able to afford these private entities owned hospitals? Don't you think if you follow this route, the waiting time for MRI Scan in US will not be worse than it is in Canada considering the population. Wrong?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:54pm On Apr 09, 2025
happney65:
Werey don pause am ooo.. grin grin grin

He thinks the rest of the world will be begging him.

Useless bully with his yeye supporters who dont reason with their brains
Now he is boasting that many countries want to make deals with the US. Of course they do. That’s the normal thing to do for rational adults. Jeez.

Next, he will say, he will put 250% on China. As if China cares at this point. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:56pm On Apr 09, 2025
descarado:
He got exactly what he was looking for.
Gloat not.
If you are living in America, you should rather be happy for this.
The next level is amendment of some stupid laws.
Then the manufacturers will come home
No country in this world will be allowed to do what China did. None.
Care to explain what China did?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:57pm On Apr 09, 2025
basilico:
Gaslighting again. The deep state is the entrenched bureaucracy that runs DC. The Federal agencies, the judiciary. I can also throw in the bankers and the Rothchilds to make you feel good
So why aren’t his right hand people not investigating and ratting out all the culprits?
I mean democrats supposedly planned Jan 6 and made y’all do what you did.
They tried to kill Trump too 🙄
And don’t let us forget Epstein island.

What’s with the cold feet?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:58pm On Apr 09, 2025
cococandy:
There’s so much to unpack in this post. Sorry for the long post.

1)so you’re okay with more expensive products as long as they are made in America? Right now, The only way to keep manufacturing jobs here is to force people to accept goods at very expensive price points. According to you guys, the economy was terrible under Biden and people are suffering. Your solution is to make the things they need even more expensive. How’s that for a solution?.

2) Other countries didn’t make buying from America hard. America made buying from itself hard. If American minimum wage is 10x the next trading partner, whose fault is it that the trading partner would be seeking more affordable options? We have this massively inflated currency that we force other countries to trade with. It’s to our benefit. But We can’t turn back and pretend that their currencies being weaker than ours doesn’t have an impact on how much more expensive buying from us is. I’m no economist but isn’t this obvious? Someone with a degree in international economics should correct me if I’m wrong please.

3) Now let’s talk about how I really feel about American manufacturing and jobs here. Because you’re either making assumptions about me now or conveniently forgotten that I’ve in the past spoken out about corporations shipping jobs abroad due to greed and maximizing profits. To which you whipped out your classic defense of greedy corporations and how profit is the ultimate holy grail. We could have manufacturing here if corporations would take a pay cut.

5) it’s rich that you suddenly care about American jobs. I thought no one owed anyone else a job? Wasn’t that your response to the mass layoffs? I digress but it can’t be ignored so I had to point it out.

6) I would love a boost in American manufacturing if done correctly. Putting tariffs first. Causing a crash in the market and hike in prices with no alternatives yet is a silly way to go about it.


7) Do you know there’s a world in which manufacturing happens in America, workers are paid fairly and the products don’t have to cost an arm and a leg? The only trade off would be that the companies don’t get to take in gargantuan profits with each quarter being better than the last. They would make good money still but that won’t satisfy their greed and knowing you, you’d rather support suffering for more expensive products than for billionaires to take a pay cut. So if you’re not in support of a system where we can make this happen, then you just like Trump are not yet serious about bringing manufacturing back to America.
How do you keep arguing with these dunces?

I honestly don't know how you folks keep engaging these obtuse clowns. Anyway more grease to your elbows o my dear. grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:58pm On Apr 09, 2025
happney65:
Werey don pause am ooo.. grin grin grin

He thinks the rest of the world will be begging him.

Useless bully with his yeye supporters who dont reason with their brains
Omg 🫠
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:00pm On Apr 09, 2025
armyofone:
Chai! Kai !

Wakanda game of throne is this on and off switch dark and light upanddown shocked grin

Hmmmmm
I guess in the few days since the tariffs, manufacturing jobs have arrived in the USA.

Sister I’m tired
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 9:00pm On Apr 09, 2025
Maeve7:
Now he is boasting that many countries want to make deals with the US. Of course they do. That’s the normal thing to do for rational adults. Jeez.

Next, he will say, he will put 250% on China. As if China cares at this point. cheesy
A useless Man with useless supporters
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:01pm On Apr 09, 2025
descarado:
He got exactly what he was looking for.
Gloat not.
If you are living in America, you should rather be happy for this.
The next level is amendment of some stupid laws.
Then the manufacturers will come home
No country in this world will be allowed to do what China did. None.
You people are so delusional. Lmao. grin grin
This one forgets that China is a Communist country and will adapt.
Over pampered American babies will not be able to. He didn't get what he was looking for. He is a failed business man and the United States is going to be his 7th bankruptcy. kiss
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:02pm On Apr 09, 2025
feedthenation:
---Felon 47 needed to pause the tariff to get the budget deal done so the billionaires and corporations can get the tax cuts---as he had lost the votes to pass it with a very slim majority---

OR

---He’s manipulating the stock market---like the message on his Truth Social this morning before the pausing announcement---
As I said the average American most especially his MAGA base are going to suffer. Na the rich go dey chop. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:02pm On Apr 09, 2025
Maeve7:
Which period in time are we talking about? How big were their houses? How many cars did the average family drive? What kind of food did they eat in what quantities? Where did they spend their holidays? How often? How many pieces of clothes and pairs of shoes did they own?
Between the 50s and 70s
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:04pm On Apr 09, 2025
cococandy:
I guess in the few days since the tariffs, manufacturing jobs have arrived in the USA.

Sister I’m tired
I just need red states hit the hardest in all of these. I have no sympathies left for anyone who enabled this madness. May everyone of them suffer under this man. His supporters home and abroad. Amen.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 9:05pm On Apr 09, 2025
bemeruca:
Between the 50s and 70s
Did I ask you? But since your fingers are itching, help yourself answer ALL the questions.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 9:06pm On Apr 09, 2025
cococandy:
Basically anyone that doesn’t kiss up to Satanyanhu’s arse while he tortures children to death.
"TorTuREs children to death!"😂😂😂
Did he do that to yours or anyone you are familiar with? 🤷🏼

You guys are so angry at Bibi, but it just makes him stronger. I love watching you cry about it, knowing you're powerless. The terrorists in Gaza will keep getting wiped out, and your fake stories about tortured kids are just a joke.

Nobody cares about your propaganda anymore. October 7 is good reference now. Don't mess with Israel. Keep crying, it's entertaining!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:06pm On Apr 09, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
I just need red states hit the hardest in all of these. I have no sympathies left for anyone who enabled this madness. May everyone of them suffer under this man. His supporters home and abroad. Amen.
If wishes were horses I’d wish for everyone who voted for him to be in their own section of the country and implement the policies he wants

While non trump supporters will be in our own section and live under Kamala policies. Let’s see who cries and who thrives
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 9:12pm On Apr 09, 2025
Maeve7:
Did I ask you? But since your fingers are itching, help yourself answer ALL the questions.
Why are you responding to me?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:16pm On Apr 09, 2025
Holy sh*t
Was in a meeting and Trump gamed the system.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:17pm On Apr 09, 2025
cococandy:
Basically anyone that doesn’t kiss up to Satanyanhu’s arse while he tortures children to death.
Exactly.
I think this may backfire and make people angrier at the state of Israel.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 9:22pm On Apr 09, 2025
.@stevebenen: White House officials tried to bully a major news organization into submission over the "Gulf of America." A Trump-appointed judge ruled against them.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 9:22pm On Apr 09, 2025
All the Trumpers, DId Trump win?
I know it'll take you a while to get your talking points.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 9:25pm On Apr 09, 2025
IjeBos:
Exactly.
I think this may backfire and make people angrier at the state of Israel.
HAHAHA, all the anger at Israel hasn't stopped it from getting stronger! 😂😂 Islamists, leftists, and right wing anti-Semites can cry all they want, who cares?

Online noise means nothing. Reality is what matters, and in reality, Israel is winning. Enjoy watching Israel soar! 😉
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 9:26pm On Apr 09, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
You people are so delusional. Lmao. grin grin
This one forgets that China is a Communist country and will adapt.
Over pampered American babies will not be able to. He didn't get what he was looking for. He is a failed business man and the United States is going to be his 7th bankruptcy. kiss
---The MAGAdiots are waiting for the next directives from Felon 47 before they could respond---as they put their necks on the line for these tariffs---can’t wait to see the new mental gymnastics they come up with---
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 9:31pm On Apr 09, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
I just need red states hit the hardest in all of these. I have no sympathies left for anyone who enabled this madness. May everyone of them suffer under this man. His supporters home and abroad. Amen.
You are in good company. 55% of democrats would justify Trump asassination today.
Stop pretences, just say you want all republicans dead.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 9:32pm On Apr 09, 2025
GloriousGbola:
this is a link inside the articel

https://nypost.com/2024/06/05/business/democratic-senator-blasts-5b-program-as-failure-after-only-7-ev-charging-stations-open-in-3-years/



i suspect this is a big oil article

and it is obviously tangential

as i write this, my company has installed 10 charging stations in lagos . we are installing two more this week

public charging station are either ac or dc. dc are the fast charging ones . a fast charger dc is rated from 60kw to 120kw to 300kw . these can charge your vehicle in 30 minutes

installing the charger is only one part of the equation. the other part of the equation is where do you get the power from? and who pays for it?

we met with a guy who wanted to deploy 3 chargers for a bus terminal we did the maths and told him he would need a transformer to power them properly . who then pays for the power? so all those issues have to be addressed since this is public infrastructure . that is the part the article is skimming over

the other part you are missing is this is actually how you grow industries

obama took two chances in his admin - solynara and tesla. solynara failed, but without the loan, tesla would have failed as well and that is actually how governments create industries and jobs - not by tariffs
Absolutely spot on. The way covenants grow industries is by socialism. The very thing Republicans hate.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 9:34pm On Apr 09, 2025
IjeBos:
How long before MAGA calls this Trump judge a Liberal.
---MAGAdiots will soon call U.S. District Judge Fernando Rodriguez Jr., who was a Felon 47 appointed judge in his 1st term---a DEI and immigrant---

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/trump-appointed-judge-in-texas-halts-deportations-under-alien-enemies-act-following-scotus-ruling/
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