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raumdeuter:
We cannot do much about automation and Technology but the offshoring that we can, why wont a leader try to address that?
If you have pain in your head and your leg at the same time, why is it bad to relieve that of your leg even if you cant solve both?

The entire world is fighting the US b placing unreasonable tariff on US, they claim they are protecting their own local companies, So why cant the US protect its own local companies?

bemeruca:
And I am saying automation if implemented will solve the offshoring problem and there will be more jobs and self-sufficiency in the country instead of relying on China. The key here is implementation and regulations.

Botragelad:
HAHAHA, all the anger at Israel hasn't stopped it from getting stronger! 😂😂 Islamists, leftists, and right wing anti-Semites can cry all they want, who cares?

Online noise means nothing. Reality is what matters, and in reality, Israel is winning. Enjoy watching Israel soar! 😉

AmazonTopaz:
You people are so delusional. Lmao.
This one forgets that China is a Communist country and will adapt.
Over pampered American babies will not be able to. He didn't get what he was looking for. He is a failed business man and the United States is going to be his 7th bankruptcy.

cococandy:
I didn’t say take the profits away from healthcare. You keep trying to get me to defend a position I didn’t adopt.

I reiterate my position which is unbridled capitalism.

Take for example Two healthcare systems HCA versus Kaiser. HCA practices unbridled capitalism. They do not follow safe staffing ratios. They put critically ill patients in observation units instead of transferring out as needed. They will staff critical care nurses above the recommended safe limits so that your critically ill family member is not receiving the level of monitoring they need for their dire situation. All so they can save on staffing costs.

Kaiser practices safe staffing ratios because the law where they are mandates it. Not necessarily because they are kind angels. The regulations stipulated by the unions demand that if a patient ticks certain markers in the acuity scale, they have to be transferred to a higher level of care or their nurse has to have fewer patients to be able to adequately monitor.



Both of these companies make hundreds of billions of dollars in profit annually but only one is allowed to never feel it’s enough. To keep trying to skimp and save at the expense of human lives.

That’s the unbridled capitalism I’m talking about. Greed is king is a death drum that if we keep beating will eventually swallow us all.

For legal purposes the examples above are all alleged.

IjeBos:
All the Trumpers, DId Trump win?
I know it'll take you a while to get your talking points.

Maeve7:
Care to explain what China did?

IjeBos:
Are you an Israeli citizen?

happney65:
JUST IN: US markets had their best day in more than 16 years after President Trump paused most new tariffs. They're still lower than when he announced his strategy last week.
CNN

That shows once again that it was all absolute rubbish. A deranged Man with little or no sense

Omofaye99:
Automation can indeed create some jobs, but it will also displaces many workers, leading to significant job losses. But Trumps method of addressing offshoring through tariffs was counterproductive.

bemeruca:
That's where regulatory policies and implementation comes in.

So they have to look for a balance and bring back manufacturing

Omofaye99:
I'm not against the idea of tackling offshoring, because it's indeed a valid issue that needs addressing. I am only critical of the method Trump employed, which involved imposing tariffs and engaging in trade wars. This approach led to retaliatory measures from other countries, straining international relations and ultimately jeopardizing the very local companies he aimed to protect.

While it's necessary to address specific issues like offshoring, the approach matters. If a leader focus solely on quick fixes like tariffs, it can lead to broader economic pain, much like treating one symptom without considering the overall health of the body.

descarado:
Read carefully from BBC few hours ago.
Read with unbiased mind..............
Uk is even getting worried.
Somebody said China will not feel it as its a communist country. Lol.


A full-scale trade war with China and the US is in prospect after President Donald Trump imposed tariffs of more than 100% on Chinese goods imports.

China has said it will "fight to the end" rather than capitulate to what it sees as US coercion, and will hike its own tariffs on American goods from 34% to 84% in response to the White House's latest move.

What does this escalating trade conflict mean for the world economy?

How much trade do they do?
The trade in goods between the two economic powers added up to around $585bn (£429bn) last year.

Though the US imported far more from China ($440bn) than China imported from America ($145bn).

That left the US running a trade deficit with China - the difference between what it imports and exports - of $295bn in 2024. That's a considerable trade deficit, equivalent to around 1% of the US economy.

But it's less than the $1tn figure that Trump has repeatedly claimed this week.

Trump already imposed significant tariffs on China in his first term as president. Those tariffs were kept in place and added to by his successor Joe Biden.

Together those trade barriers helped to bring the goods the US imported from China down from a 21% share of America's total imports in 2016 to 13% last year.

So the US reliance on China for trade has diminished over the past decade.

Yet analysts point out that some Chinese goods exports to the US have been re-routed through south-east Asian countries.

Live updates on this story

China is not backing down from Trump's tariff war. What next?

Who are the tariff 'PANICANS' derided as 'weak and stupid' by Trump?

For example, the Trump administration imposed 30% tariffs on Chinese imported solar panels in 2018.

But the US Commerce Department presented evidence in 2023, external that Chinese solar panel manufacturers had shifted their assembly operations to states such as Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam and then sent the finished products to the US from those countries, effectively evading the tariffs.

The new "reciprocal" Trump tariffs imposed on those countries will therefore push up the US price of a wide range of goods ultimately originating in China.


What do the US and China import from each other?
In 2024, the biggest category of goods exports from the US to China were soybeans – primarily used to feed China's estimated 440 million pigs.

The US also sent pharmaceuticals and petroleum to China.

Going the other way, from China to the US, were large volumes of electronics, computers and toys. A large amount of batteries, which are vital for electric vehicles, were also exported.

The biggest category of US imports from China is smartphones, accounting for 9% of the total. A large proportion of these smartphones are made in China for Apple, a US-based multinational.

The US tariffs on China have been one of the main contributors to the decline in the market value of Apple in recent weeks, with its share price falling by 20% over the past month.


All these imported items to the US from China were already set to become considerably more expensive for Americans due to the 20% tariff the Trump administration has already imposed on Beijing.

Now the tariff has risen to 104%, the impact could be five times greater.

And US imports into China will also go up in price due to China's retaliatory tariffs, ultimately hurting Chinese consumers in a similar way.

But beyond tariffs, there are other ways for these two nations to attempt to damage each other through trade.


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Watch: China says it will 'fight to the end' in trade war

China has a central role in refining many vital metals for industry, from copper and lithium to rare earths.

Beijing could place obstacles in the way of these metals reaching the US.

This is something it has already done in the case of two materials called germanium and gallium, which are used by the military in thermal imaging and radar.

As for the US, it could attempt to tighten the technological blockade on China started by Joe Biden by making it harder for China to import the kind of advanced microchips – which are vital for applications like artificial intelligence – it still can't yet produce itself.

Donald Trump's trade advisor, Peter Navarro, has suggested this week that the US could apply pressure on other countries, including Cambodia, Mexico and Vietnam, not to trade with China if they want to continue to exporting to the US.

How might this affect other countries?
The US and China together account for such a large share of the global economy, around 43% this year according to the International Monetary Fund.

If they were to engage in an all-out trade war that slowed their growth down, or even pushed them into recession, that would likely harm other countries' economies in the form of slower global growth.

Global investment would also likely suffer.

There are other potential consequences.

China is the world's biggest manufacturing nation and is producing far more than its population consumes domestically.

It is already running an almost $1tn goods surplus – meaning it is exporting more goods to the rest of the world than it imports.

And it is often producing those goods at below the true cost of production due to domestic subsidies and state financial support, like cheap loans, for favoured firms.

Steel is an example of this.

There is a risk that if such products were unable to enter the US, Chinese firms could seek to "dump" them abroad.

While that could be beneficial for some consumers, it could also undercut producers in countries threatening jobs and wages.

The lobby group UK Steel has warned of the danger of excess steel potentially being redirected to the UK market.

The spillover impacts of an all-out China-US trade war would be felt globally, and most economists judge that the impact would be highly negative.

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Botragelad:
You wanna know the truth? Most people here, especially Democrats, have no clue about tariffs. They just talk because they hate Trump. They only care about policies if they like the person in charge. They hate Trump so much they won't even listen to learn. Everything Trump does is bad to them, no matter what.

When you try to explain, they call you names and insult you. Trump isn't perfect, some things he does are good, some are bad. But some people don't even know what tariffs are. Better for them to just be quiet and wait for the results if they don't know what's going on.

raumdeuter:
This is why capitalism encourages competition so another Healthcare system can come and do what HCA is failing to do, win more people to their side and if HCA does not change, they die off

Maeve7:
Trump caved a little too late. He should have never started the nonsense in the first place. But he needed to try this experiment to finance his trillions dollar tax cut for the rich. I give it to him, he is the greatest con man the world has ever seen. He has made all these poor suckers believe he was actually fighting for them.

happney65:
JUST IN: US markets had their best day in more than 16 years after President Trump paused most new tariffs. They're still lower than when he announced his strategy last week.
CNN

That shows once again that it was all absolute rubbish. A deranged Man with little or no sense

basilico:
Do you realize he has pitted the whole world against the Chinese? He still gets 10% tarrifsfron every country as they line up to negotiate for a deal within 90 days
Meanwhile the Chinese order cancellations will start within hours.

cococandy:
Anyway tariffs paused. I guess American jobs stopped being a priority after 5 days.
My head is spinning from the chaos and inconsistency.

descarado:
China will not adapt to anything.
China has tasted capitalism though it politically is a communist country.
It is impossible for China to go back to full time communism.
Whe you have tasted power, you do anything to stay there.
I don't think any of you know Jack about chinese
economy.

As for Trump being a failed business man, you can show us yours even if you are still controlling thousands.
Talk is cheap.

China needed expansion into world economy to soar and that is what they have tasted and enjoying. Communism my foot.

Go and read up chinese economy as of today, and were they stand, we can then have this conversation. I will tell you about chinese economy than American or British economy.
I have been studying Chinese economy for years, both their languages and different cultures.

Wonder why all of you are so pained. If America fail as its projected to if drastic measure is not taking, you all should enjoy it.

Like I said before, empires rise and fall.
America falling won't be the first empire to crumble.

basilico:
Do you realize he has pitted the whole world against the Chinese? He still gets 10% tarrifsfron every country as they line up to negotiate for a deal within 90 days
Meanwhile the Chinese order cancellations will start within hours.

feedthenation:
---Is this your next talking point---@bolded---thought Felon 47 Treasury Secretary Bessent said the US will punish any country which sides with China---after the Spanish PM commented that other countries should look towards China---

basilico:
I want China fake products stopped, their takeover of every business is too much.
Vuvuzelas are south African , the ones you buy are Chinese made

descarado:
Read extract from the BBC article I pasted up there and see that the Brits are already complaining and trying to distance themselves away.

The world will just wake up to see China as who they are.

In uk, we have primak. Their goods are made in Cambodia and some of those smaller countries.

I was debating with somebody that it is the voice of esau but the hand of Jacob. They evade tarrif by going through slither country they can muscle.


China man is a horrible capitalist. They tasted economic freedom and the sky isn't their limit anymore. And when they render help to you as a country, the collateral is your port. Do the math.

ItooWorWor:
Ah! the brilliant pause from Orange man, 90 days its like taking a relaxing mud bath, only to find yourself rolling back in it shortly after.

Meanwhile, it seems his cronies have had their fill of the stock market rollercoaster.

basilico:
I've been writing here about how China game plan is not just lift 600 million from poverty It's to take over as the superpower, a carefully crafted long term game plan
They bought out the Bidens , Hollywood and NBA makes a lot of money from China too. Then you have democrats who hate America, would rather everyone is on a government handouts Hungry people depending on govt are a
reliable voting block

raumdeuter:
American jobs will not come in 5 days, Its a 90 day pause to give room for negotiations before the resume while the country that flouts trade rules the most China still remains under the tariffs

Now the world will notice that America can actually act and the do nothing Democrats are no longer in power