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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 12:00am On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
This is why I will always support death penalty, personally I dont see why this guy or any mass shooter should be alive even for life imprisonment

Quick one adjudicated within 30days
I support death penalty to all the party that allowed this to happen.
From her parents to the mam and his parents or anybody involved.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:03am On Apr 10, 2025
descarado:
I support death penalty to all the party that allowed this to happen.
From her parents to the mam and his parents or anybody involved.
I dont understand the concept of life imprisonment for some of these gory crimes especially for people who took lives, Though we know being in that part of the world, they might reward him with a younger wife like a 6yr old
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ItooWorWor(m): 12:06am On Apr 10, 2025
descarado:
Speechless.
And his pric came alive
Damn!!!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 12:07am On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Their prophet did it.
Just so sad to allow such nonsense to happen in this age, just so sad.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 12:07am On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
About 12yrs ago, Kaiser used to be great in Southern California especially in San Diego, Escondido area. I am talking from a patient POV, not a provider
I think they’re still great to patients.

From a staff perspective they could be better because they pay less than Northern California market. But San Diego is so expensive. The union over there didn’t succeed in getting them market competitive rates compared to NorCal. So their staff typical don’t express the same satisfaction as their NorCal counterparts
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 12:13am On Apr 10, 2025
armyofone:
Just so sad to allow such nonsense to happen in this age, just so sad.
They usually target poor families who sell their daughters off for change
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ItooWorWor(m): 12:14am On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Their prophet did it.
They heard he did it.


Which is unproven.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:20am On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
In Medical circles in the US, HCA generally does not have a good reputation, Especially with their employees, they are very cu throat, They pay their doctors poorly e.g when a regular doctor at other healtcare system should be making say 250 to 350K, HCA might say they pay you 120k and the rest is based on RVUs

In Texas for example they run all the Medical City Hospitals. Many Doctors and Nurses will rather avoid them if you can and go to Baylor Scott white, Texas Health or Methodist

The way HCA is run, you will think maybe they are starting to have a lot of Indian mid to senior managers and putting in practices you will see more in countries outside US
Na Una get first hand experience so I no go argue with una. I believe Medical City is a slightly different model. One of my former colleague (black girl) came here and when she returned to USA she went to a Kindred facility as CEO, she no want stay within HCA for various reasons bordering on what you are saying. But as for UK, HCA is the best for the simple reason that we received 30% more reimbursement from Insurers than all our competitors for most of our hospitals, so we had more headroom to provide better and more cutting edge care.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:32am On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
Ibime another thing you have to consider with healthcare systems is that depending on who’s heading the regional market, the experience of the employee is going to be vastly different. When I lived in Seattle, Kaiser was the devil according to some nurses and patients. I was a new grad then and I worked for a different system that I loved until they got acquired by another big corporation and everything turned on its head.
Even in UK, experience is regional. For example, I had one hospital in Manchester that had a great reimbursement rate from insurers, and allowed us to provide higher levels of care. Just 20 miles down the road we had another one where Insurance rates were not great causing us to squeeze the staffing. Typically in healthcare, Staffing is 30% of your cost and the biggest line you have leverage over. Most other costs such as Supplies (also around 30% but already signed up to multiyear agreements, rent, pro fees etc cannot be impacted quickly).

Between both Hospitals, you could not even beg staff to move from the first Hospital to the 2nd one and turnover/stress levels/job dissatisfaction was more than double in the 2nd one. It all comes down to the bottom line and company culture. Most times the bottom line also defines the company culture. In one of my sites in Birmingham, I had the most pleasant CEO, the kindest and most humane woman you could meet but the site wasn't doing well because the commercial agreements weren't great. Despite her lovely nature, the culture started turning toxic as we had to squeeze staffing. That was finally the reason I left because the bosses were expecting water out of stone from a bad business case, losing 7 figures a month, causing me to squeeze the staffing to stressful levels, plus too much travel demands on me to be going there 4 times a week to turn it round, so I had to find something closer to home before they give me HBP.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 12:38am On Apr 10, 2025
Who can have confidence in anything happening at the white house right now.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:49am On Apr 10, 2025
descarado:
China will not adapt to anything.
China has tasted capitalism though it politically is a communist country.
It is impossible for China to go back to full time communism.
Whe you have tasted power, you do anything to stay there.
I don't think any of you know Jack about chinese
economy.

As for Trump being a failed business man, you can show us yours even if you are still controlling thousands.
Talk is cheap.

China needed expansion into world economy to soar and that is what they have tasted and enjoying. Communism my foot.

Go and read up chinese economy as of today, and were they stand, we can then have this conversation. I will tell you about chinese economy than American or British economy.
I have been studying Chinese economy for years, both their languages and different cultures.

Wonder why all of you are so pained. If America fail as its projected to if drastic measure is not taking, you all should enjoy it.

Like I said before, empires rise and fall.
America falling won't be the first empire to crumble.
He has walked back on the announcement of a tariff pause, the same one you initially said that he has achieved what he aimed to do with it. So the tariff is still in effect.
You see why folks like you cannot be taken seriously you are clowns just like the incompetent ozwor in the White House who is using the Office of the United States Presidency to enrich himself by engaging in Insider trading.

And yes, Trump is a failed businessman, Trump University - Failed
Trump Hairline- Failed
Trump Casino - Failed.
These are not "talk is cheap."

And yes, The United States will be his 7th bankruptcy.

All failed and facts don't care about your feelings he applying wisdom/critical thinking when opining on issues.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:50am On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
If wishes were horses I’d wish for everyone who voted for him to be in their own section of the country and implement the policies he wants

While non trump supporters will be in our own section and live under Kamala policies. Let’s see who cries and who thrives
Honestly. I have thought about this many times.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:52am On Apr 10, 2025
So the tariff 90 day pause was a lie. He posted on truth social about buying the dip before announcing it then reversed course.

Amelika Plesidentttt dey do insider trading.
Why am I not surprised it turns out that when you elect a criminal crimes happen.

What a global embarrassment. When this slowpoke is done I don't think America will have the credibility to ever caution any foreign leader again. The damage will be for decades.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:52am On Apr 10, 2025
whats happening here

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:54am On Apr 10, 2025
ItooWorWor:
Ah! the brilliant pause from Orange man, 90 days cheesy its like taking a relaxing mud bath, only to find yourself rolling back in it shortly after.

Meanwhile, it seems his cronies have had their fill of the stock market rollercoaster.
Insider trading in the Presidency. grin
These people will bankrupt the United States.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:56am On Apr 10, 2025
Someone said he’s punishing the country for rejecting him in 2020. That Tracks grin

AmazonTopaz:
So the tariff 90 day pause was a lie. He posted on truth social about buying the dip before announcing it then reversed course.

Amelika Plesidentttt dey do insider trading.
Why am I not surprised it turns out that when you elect a criminal crimes happen.

What a global embarrassment. When this slowpoke is done I don't think America will have the credibility to ever caution any foreign leader again. The damage will be for decades.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 1:58am On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
Someone said he’s punishing the country for rejecting him in 2020. That Tracks grin
I only feel sorry for the 75 million people who voted for Kamala. The 77 million idiots and over 50 million goats who sat out deserve whatever they get.
If anyone who voted for Kamala can get out they should. It's not going to get better anytime soon.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 2:01am On Apr 10, 2025
Cococandy, Ijebos, Happney65, feedthenation, Buda.

Please take a look at what the State of Rhode Island is trying to do in response to this tariff apparently there is a Royal charter that they have that predates the U.S. Constitution. Wow.
Remember it was one of the thirteen original colonies.

Legally, this might not fly but this is a very interesting angle. I will research more on this.


https://x.com/antoniafarzan/status/1910050083103474156?t=pJ92oW9Zp92fPBJGQP_vIw&s=19
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:32am On Apr 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Are you an Arab?
No, but I am a US and Nigerian citizen.
So, Israel "winning" at the expense of my values or the values of the US is not my concern.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:45am On Apr 10, 2025
We’re not leaving our country for them. That’s what they want. It won’t work. I personally moved for necessity but I still keep my California job and fly back and forth as needed.No fear of the orange man.

If we all leave they win. That’s the real win for them.

No fear my lady 😘
AmazonTopaz:
I only feel sorry for the 75 million people who voted for Kamala. The 77 million idiots and over 50 million goats who sat out deserve whatever they get.
If anyone who voted for Kamala can get out they should. It's not going to get better anytime soon.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 2:48am On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
No, but I am a US and Nigerian citizen.
So, Israel "winning" at the expense of my values or the values of the US is not my concern.
Not your concern but you are concerned about people getting angrier at Israel! 😂
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:58am On Apr 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Not your concern but you are concerned about people getting angrier at Israel! 😂
Your comprehension seems shoddy just like your values.
Maybe find a Israeli thread to express you joy at them "winning" as they genocide an entire population and use Trump's government to stamp out dissent and instill fear in the US immigrant population.
While you are at it, figure out what you "win".
Try trolling somewhere else.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:29am On Apr 10, 2025
Just very very lucky,

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Botragelad: 4:08am On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Your comprehension seems shoddy just like your values.
Maybe find a Israeli thread to express you joy at them "winning" as they genocide an entire population and use Trump's government to stamp out dissent and instill fear in the US immigrant population.
While you are at it, figure out what you "win".
Try trolling somewhere else.
Lol, another Hamas cheerleader who’s totally unaware and loud at the same time. Your mess isn’t my problem. This guy really said, “People will be angrier at Israel” 😂😂

“GeNOcidE”? Nah, wiping out Islamist terrorists isn’t genocide, it's cleaning up the trash. Go ahead, cry harder.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:34am On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Just very very lucky,
Grand larceny by the commander in thief
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:38am On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
Grand larceny by the commander in thief
Lol.
Is it theft id there's noone to arrest you? wink

But, people are on this board spinning in circles defending his policies while he is chilling helping out his fellow oligarchs.
But, I'm still mad I missed out.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 4:41am On Apr 10, 2025
Botragelad:
Lol, another Hamas cheerleader who’s totally unaware and loud at the same time. Your mess isn’t my problem. This guy really said, “People will be angrier at Israel” 😂😂

“GeNOcidE”? Nah, wiping out Islamist terrorists isn’t genocide, it's cleaning up the trash. Go ahead, cry harder.
You sound very aware and not loud.
That was sarcasm in case you missed it.

Enjoy whatever you think you are winning.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 4:42am On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Your comprehension seems shoddy just like your values.
Maybe find a Israeli thread to express you joy at them "winning" as they genocide an entire population and use Trump's government to stamp out dissent and instill fear in the US immigrant population.
While you are at it, figure out what you "win".
Try trolling somewhere else.
Apparently if you’re not celebrating the death of children in Gaza like a soulless ghoul, you’re antisemitic.
But they’re cheering Elon while he’s doing the Hitler salute. Make it make sense.

Ms. Rachel, the beloved children's educator and YouTuber, is under attack for supporting children in Gaza.
The pro-Israel group StopAntisemitism penned a letter to
U.S. Attorney General Pam Bondi urging her to investigate Rachel Griffin Accurso for being "a mouthpiece for Hamas." The organization's accusations include Ms. Rachel citing internationally recognized statistics, referring to legitimate photos of starving Palestinian children and posting disproportionately about children in Gaza as compared to Israeli children.
Ms. Rachel, who recently welcomed her second child, has yet to respond publicly to the accusations. But it's not the first time she's been attacked for decrying the suffering of Palestinian children in Gaza.
Despite StopAntisemitism's claims, Ms. Rachel has said that she cares about all children - "Palestinian children, Israeli children, children in the U.S. - Muslim, Jewish, Christian children — all children, in every country."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 5:36am On Apr 10, 2025
basilico:
Do you realize he has pitted the whole world against the Chinese? He still gets 10% tarrifs from every country as they line up to negotiate for a deal within 90 days
Meanwhile the Chinese order cancellations will start within hours.
Lots of unhappy Chinese I guess especially those outside if China.
Congratulations. You have just proven that alternate universes exist.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 5:37am On Apr 10, 2025
descarado:
Go and read up rules of engagement in international trade.
In other words, you can’t support your argument.
I’m not going to do the reading for you but I’ll continue calling you out on your half-baked claims.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:40am On Apr 10, 2025
descarado:
Read carefully from BBC few hours ago.
Read with unbiased mind..............
Uk is even getting worried.
Somebody said China will not feel it as its a communist country. Lol.


A full-scale trade war with China and the US is in prospect after President Donald Trump imposed tariffs of more than 100% on Chinese goods imports.

China has said it will "fight to the end" rather than capitulate to what it sees as US coercion, and will hike its own tariffs on American goods from 34% to 84% in response to the White House's latest move.

What does this escalating trade conflict mean for the world economy?

How much trade do they do?
The trade in goods between the two economic powers added up to around $585bn (£429bn) last year.

Though the US imported far more from China ($440bn) than China imported from America ($145bn).

That left the US running a trade deficit with China - the difference between what it imports and exports - of $295bn in 2024. That's a considerable trade deficit, equivalent to around 1% of the US economy.

But it's less than the $1tn figure that Trump has repeatedly claimed this week.

Trump already imposed significant tariffs on China in his first term as president. Those tariffs were kept in place and added to by his successor Joe Biden.

Together those trade barriers helped to bring the goods the US imported from China down from a 21% share of America's total imports in 2016 to 13% last year.

So the US reliance on China for trade has diminished over the past decade.

Yet analysts point out that some Chinese goods exports to the US have been re-routed through south-east Asian countries.

Live updates on this story

China is not backing down from Trump's tariff war. What next?

Who are the tariff 'PANICANS' derided as 'weak and stupid' by Trump?

For example, the Trump administration imposed 30% tariffs on Chinese imported solar panels in 2018.

But the US Commerce Department presented evidence in 2023, external that Chinese solar panel manufacturers had shifted their assembly operations to states such as Malaysia, Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam and then sent the finished products to the US from those countries, effectively evading the tariffs.

The new "reciprocal" Trump tariffs imposed on those countries will therefore push up the US price of a wide range of goods ultimately originating in China.


What do the US and China import from each other?
In 2024, the biggest category of goods exports from the US to China were soybeans – primarily used to feed China's estimated 440 million pigs.

The US also sent pharmaceuticals and petroleum to China.

Going the other way, from China to the US, were large volumes of electronics, computers and toys. A large amount of batteries, which are vital for electric vehicles, were also exported.

The biggest category of US imports from China is smartphones, accounting for 9% of the total. A large proportion of these smartphones are made in China for Apple, a US-based multinational.

The US tariffs on China have been one of the main contributors to the decline in the market value of Apple in recent weeks, with its share price falling by 20% over the past month.


All these imported items to the US from China were already set to become considerably more expensive for Americans due to the 20% tariff the Trump administration has already imposed on Beijing.

Now the tariff has risen to 104%, the impact could be five times greater.

And US imports into China will also go up in price due to China's retaliatory tariffs, ultimately hurting Chinese consumers in a similar way.

But beyond tariffs, there are other ways for these two nations to attempt to damage each other through trade.


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Media caption,
Watch: China says it will 'fight to the end' in trade war

China has a central role in refining many vital metals for industry, from copper and lithium to rare earths.

Beijing could place obstacles in the way of these metals reaching the US.

This is something it has already done in the case of two materials called germanium and gallium, which are used by the military in thermal imaging and radar.

As for the US, it could attempt to tighten the technological blockade on China started by Joe Biden by making it harder for China to import the kind of advanced microchips – which are vital for applications like artificial intelligence – it still can't yet produce itself.

Donald Trump's trade advisor, Peter Navarro, has suggested this week that the US could apply pressure on other countries, including Cambodia, Mexico and Vietnam, not to trade with China if they want to continue to exporting to the US.

How might this affect other countries?
The US and China together account for such a large share of the global economy, around 43% this year according to the International Monetary Fund.

If they were to engage in an all-out trade war that slowed their growth down, or even pushed them into recession, that would likely harm other countries' economies in the form of slower global growth.

Global investment would also likely suffer.

There are other potential consequences.

China is the world's biggest manufacturing nation and is producing far more than its population consumes domestically.

It is already running an almost $1tn goods surplus – meaning it is exporting more goods to the rest of the world than it imports.

And it is often producing those goods at below the true cost of production due to domestic subsidies and state financial support, like cheap loans, for favoured firms.

Steel is an example of this.

There is a risk that if such products were unable to enter the US, Chinese firms could seek to "dump" them abroad.

While that could be beneficial for some consumers, it could also undercut producers in countries threatening jobs and wages.

The lobby group UK Steel has warned of the danger of excess steel potentially being redirected to the UK market.

The spillover impacts of an all-out China-US trade war would be felt globally, and most economists judge that the impact would be highly negative.

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Nice article. One point. China will take a massive hit .Americans use 110V while most of the world uses 240V . You'd need a transformer for every gadget , shaving machine, hair dryer, toaster, etc to use it in other countries Millions of gadgets they can't sell.
As for industrial 3-phase industrial scale it's quite expensive to use transformers or variable frequency drives . Probably they'll have to dismantle them and rebuild them afresh
China can't channel their commodities through Vietnam or Sri Lanka etc because the rest are at 10% I presume during negotiations, they will have to strictly agree not to transship Chinese made products to America.
I'm loving this giant Panda beatdown
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 5:42am On Apr 10, 2025
budaatum:
Love your reasoning.

You'd run up your credit card to pay for your consumption, then blame those you bought from and tariff them.
Motherf…..s were littering the earth with cheap low-quality products but somehow it’s only China’s fault that they needed to buy all the junk.
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