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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:57pm On Apr 10, 2025
There's no way Krushner didn't hear all this coming so he can position his $2 billion Saudi fund. No way at all.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:59pm On Apr 10, 2025
GloriousGbola:
solar panels are 12v dc tho. just sayin'
They are? Didn't know that, but basilico who installs them would never touch them if they came from China, I bet, not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:04pm On Apr 10, 2025
LordReed:
And what if it is the wrong person being accused or you don't think that happens?
Why are Adam Lanza, Dylan Roof, James Holmes, Nicholas Cruz still alive? People who were caught in the act and who confessed to the act. Is it because they were wrongly accused?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:04pm On Apr 10, 2025
budaatum:
They are? Didn't know that, but basilico who installs them would never touch them if they came from China, I bet, not.
man is lying through his teeth cheesy cheesy cheesy

he cant say he does not know about jinko solar panels or felicity - at least those ones are not chinko/chinesium

Chinesium
Wiktionary, the free dictionary

(uncountable) (slang, derogatory, sometimes humorous) Low-quality products made in China; the imaginary worthless material used to make such products.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:07pm On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
It's not just Biden, it's every past administration for the past 40yrs who watched as American manufacturing shut down and the people and communities who depend on them left behind

If you notice, it's why Trump won all the rust belt states. The middle states who depend a lot on manufacturing and who got affected the most by the loss of manufacturing jobs after they were deceived for long

These people believed and voted for past presidents who promised to bring these jobs back and didn't do it
And one of those past presidents was Trump.
What did he bring back?

They voted for him because he's a hustler who does what scam artists do. Talk big.
While people like Biden just get stuff done (CHIPS act).
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:07pm On Apr 10, 2025
GloriousGbola:
it is the greed you talk about - and free market

https://www.reddit.com/r/ITManagers/comments/1julc18/i_have_to_let_go_of_my_best_sysadmin_not_because/
greed is good. praise be to the shareholders! and of course elon is leading the way in his pursuit of h1-b indians who will settle for slavery
Greed is in the nature of men and there is nothing we can do as individuals, Its why govt exist to protect the citizens especially those workers

Its like saying a pretty lady will pass and red blooded hetero men will not look, admire and even desire.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 2:08pm On Apr 10, 2025
LordReed:
And what if it is the wrong person being accused or you don't think that happens?
What if it's not the wrong person.
Like that child bride husband,what happens?
Put him in jail with tax payers money?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:10pm On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
Why are Adam Lanza, Dylan Roof, James Holmes, Nicholas Cruz still alive? People who were caught in the act and who confessed to the act. Is it because they were wrongly accused?
What does that change the fact that because the Judicial system is imperfect, generally at a cost to minorities and the poor, that there are mistakes?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:10pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
And one of those past presidents was Trump.
What did he bring back?

They voted for him because he's a hustler who does what scam artists do. Talk big.
While people like Biden just get stuff done (CHIPS act).
Americans evaluated Bidens time vs Trumps time and they chose the time of Trump which was why he won all the swing states including Michigan Pennsylvania in the rust belt
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:11pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
What does that change the fact that because the Judicial system is imperfect, generally at a cost to minorities and the poor, that there are mistakes?
Which of these 200 are mass shooters who were killed unfairly
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:16pm On Apr 10, 2025
descarado:
What if it's not the wrong person.
Like that child bride husband,what happens?
Put him in jail with tax payers money?
"What if"?

The cornerstone of the US Judicial system is the Blackstone Principle, "it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent person suffer".
You've turned it around to "it is better that ten innocent persons suffer than that one guilty person escape."

Benjamin Franklin even went further.
"it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer"
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:20pm On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
Which of these 200 are mass shooters who were killed unfairly
Why don't you try writing a death penalty law which achieves your desired outcome and doesn't capture innocent people.
Take into account mental health laws, etc. etc. etc.

You post as if someone who never thinks holistically about the things you advocate.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:21pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
"What if"?

The cornerstone of the US Judicial system is the Blackstone Principle, "it is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent person suffer".
You've turned it around to "it is better that ten innocent persons suffer than that one guilty person escape."

Benjamin Franklin even went further.
"it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer"
The same people who celebrated Luigi Mangione are against the death penalty.
If the perpetrator caught in the act, I don't mind the death penalty. There is no mistake on that one.
I don't want to house and feed someone like that with my tax
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:29pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
What does that change the fact that because the Judicial system is imperfect, generally at a cost to minorities and the poor, that there are mistakes?
obligatory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stinney

George Junius Stinney Jr. (October 21, 1929 – June 16, 1944) was an African American boy who was wrongfully executed at the age of 14 after being convicted, during an unfair trial, for the murders of two white girls in March 1944 – Betty June Binnicker, age 11, and Mary Emma Thames, age 8 – in his hometown of Alcolu, South Carolina. He was tried, convicted, and sentenced to death on a single day in April 1944 and then executed by electric chair on June 16, 1944.

A re-examination of Stinney's case began in 2004, and several individuals and the Northeastern University School of Law sought a judicial review. Stinney's murder conviction was vacated in 2014, with a South Carolina court ruling that he had not received a fair trial, and was thus wrongfully executed.[3][4] Stinney is the youngest American with an exact birth date confirmed to be both sentenced to death and executed in the 20th century.[5]
or the central park five who trump wanted executed

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/arts/television/when-they-see-us.html

and that is what the us is regressing towards again

it is already happening with all these illegal deportations based on the flimsiest of assumptions. this is how it was in jim crow - how it was before the FBI. and we know how it ends - a police state where it is a crime to mock the dear leader, or speak out against government policy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:34pm On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
Americans evaluated Bidens time vs Trumps time and they chose the time of Trump which was why he won all the swing states including Michigan Pennsylvania in the rust belt
Yes, they did and I think it is clear again from what happened this week alone, their evaluation was wrong.

But, no one disagrees about that evaluation, a point that you keep bringing up that you you think helps your case.
Does it really? No, it doesn't.
The question is the lack of education, lack of critical thinking and hatred for minorities that led them to that evaluation when most metrics say Biden was a better President than Trump esp. on the Economy.
But you have to be educated and/or reason without bias to know those metricas and then to take those into account.

Your argument seems to be, because Trump was elected that means that the things people who elected him believed about him were true or something to that effect.
Very weird analysis.
One of the worries of the framers and part of the reason they created the Electoral college was fear that the populace would elect a demagogue.
That seems to have happened.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:37pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
The same people who celebrated Luigi Mangione are against the death penalty.
If the perpetrator caught in the act, I don't mind the death penalty. There is no mistake on that one.
I don't want to house and feed someone like that with my tax
You don't pay US tax.
You don't live in the US even though you wake up every morning pretending to.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:38pm On Apr 10, 2025
GloriousGbola:
obligatory

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Stinney



or the central park five who trump wanted executed

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/30/arts/television/when-they-see-us.html

and that is what the us is regressing towards again

it is already happening with all these illegal deportations based on the flimsiest of assumptions. this is how it was in jim crow - how it was before the FBI. and we know how it ends - a police state where it is a crime to mock the dear leader, or speak out against government policy
That is exactly what's going on.
And a lot of Republicans seem to be very comfortable with it because to them it has never been about Truth or Justice or the Constitution,
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 2:39pm On Apr 10, 2025
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Read somewhere China want to devalue their currency.
It will get worst when some American companies domiciled in china go back to America.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:42pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
You don't pay US tax.
You don't live in the US even though you wake up every morning pretending to.
Tell yourself that everyday. Pray to your god that I don't live here it will become true for you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 2:42pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
That is exactly what's going on.
And a lot of Republicans seem to be very comfortable with it because to them it has never been about Truth or Justice or the Constitution,
“If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you.”
― Lyndon B. Johnson
put them uppity niggers back in their place. i only hope we dont get all the way back to that time, those glorious 50s when black people were barely seen or heard.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:49pm On Apr 10, 2025
GloriousGbola:
put them uppity niggers back in their place. i only hope we dont get all the way back to that time, those glorious 50s when black people were barely seen or heard.
Bemeruca even argued that the 50's were the best time for the US or he might have even said the World.
Make American Great Again right?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 2:53pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Bemeruca even argued that the 50's were the best time for the US or he might have even said the World.
Make American Great Again right?
Everything about you is about race and victimhood and your friend gloriousgbola is like that but I will say it again.

bemeruca:
In the 1950s we as humans were at our prime. Now use your education and make that statement about the US and blacks.

PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO RENT A HOUSE BUT ILLEGALS LIVE IN 5-STAR HOTELS.

Only stupid people will not realize this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:58pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Tell yourself that everyday. Pray to your god that I don't live here it will become true for you.
Can't imagine waking up everyday and feeling so inadequate I need to lie about living in the US.
You are such a broken person.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:01pm On Apr 10, 2025
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:01pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Everything about you is about race and victimhood and your friend gloriousgbola is like that but I will say it again.


Whenever I read your posts I'm am so thankful for the education I have and the mind I was born with.
You keep rewriting this and seem not to understand the full grasp of what it is saying.
Well you do hate your blackness, so maybe you do.

bemeruca:
In the 1950s we as humans were at our prime. Now use your education and make that statement about the US and blacks.

PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO RENT A HOUSE BUT ILLEGALS LIVE IN 5-STAR HOTELS.

Only stupid people will not realize this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:02pm On Apr 10, 2025
budaatum:
Trump ignites ‘insider trading’ accusations after global tariffs U-turn

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/10/donald-trump-ignites-insider-trading-accusations-after-global-tariffs-u-turn
You can see the spike in calls before his announcement and the market took off.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:04pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
Apparently if you’re not celebrating the death of children in Gaza like a soulless ghoul, you’re antisemitic.
But they’re cheering Elon while he’s doing the Hitler salute. Make it make sense.
Or if you support Palestine in any way.
The Republican party never makes sense in its hypocrisy.

But it's revolting that a foreign country is interfering this much in US Domestic policy esp. trying to change our values.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:05pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Can't imagine waking up everyday and feeling so inadequate I need to lie about living in the US.
You are such a broken person.
Have you prayed today?
Will you come and shout Photoshop when you see something you don't like?

Remain pained buddy, I like it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by GloriousGbola: 3:08pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Bemeruca even argued that the 50's were the best time for the US or he might have even said the World.
Make American Great Again right?
You are not supposed to involve ignorant people in intellectual conversations that go over their heads.

Incidentally that is one of the goals of this administration. Erase all that history so we can pretend it did not happen.

Women did not fully get the right to vote until 1920 over a 100 years after the revolutionary war.

The Civil rights act was 1964,roughly 100 years are the civil war to end slavery

These rights were earned in blood over decades, one step at a time. And because some people dont know their history, they think the rights have always been there. They think Rosa parks is a fairy story. They will say the tuskgee experiments never happened.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:15pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Have you prayed today?
Will you come and shout Photoshop when you see something you don't like?

Remain pained buddy, I like it.
Look, if you choose to lie daily about living in the US for your 419 ends, I'll call you out daily.

"Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:18pm On Apr 10, 2025
GloriousGbola:
You are not supposed to involve ignorant people in intellectual conversations that go over their heads.

Incidentally that is one of the goals of this administration. Erase all that history so we can pretend it did not happen.

Women did not fully get the right to vote until 1920 over a 100 years after the revolutionary war.

The Civil rights act was 1964,roughly 100 years are the civil war to end slavery

These rights were earned in blood over decades, one step at a time. And because some people dont know their history, they think the rights have always been there. They think Rosa parks is a fairy story. They will say the tuskgee experiments never happened.
I think it is even more egregious than that, they want to go back to those times. A times where minorities and women "knew their place".
It's no surprise Bemeruca voiced that, he probably heard it on a Conservative site somewhere.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 3:27pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
You can see the spike in calls before his announcement and the market took off.
Yeah. I see the spike.

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