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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:32pm On Apr 10, 2025
Maeve7:
You couldn’t prove it if your life depended on it.
Why are you responding to me 😒😒
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:33pm On Apr 10, 2025
Maeve7:
You couldn’t prove it if your life depended on it.
A typical working blue collar worker could raise family and retire comfy more easily than today
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:33pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Why are you responding to me 😒😒
Because I can.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:34pm On Apr 10, 2025
Maeve7:
Because I can.
Are you talking to me?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:35pm On Apr 10, 2025
basilico:
A typical working blue collar worker could raise family and retire comfy more easily than today
Because you say so?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:36pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
Are you talking to me?
And to the voices in your head.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:37pm On Apr 10, 2025
Maeve7:
And to the voices in your head.
Answer the question
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:40pm On Apr 10, 2025
bemeruca:
You just don't understand.
I’m sure you’re about to teach me
Despite all the things against the black man then, morally, mentality and value wise they are better than what became of the black man after that time.

Today, people who did not witness slavery and all the horrors of those days are more effected by it than people who took all the hardship from slavery and segregation.
Tell me how a black man today is more affected than black men in the 50s who had to witness public lynchings and hold their peace so that they wouldn’t be next.

Don’t mistake people being more vocal and advocating for themselves as being more affected. What you’re witnessing is a generation of people who are not okay with letting things be the way they used to be. So they speak up more, agitate more and tolerate less. It doesn’t mean they have it worse than those who directly experienced the horrors.

As of 1968, public lynching of black people was still a thing. In other for people to survive then, they had to have put on a facade, keep their heads down and swallow their pride so as not to be the next in the trees. That’s some soul crushing existence if I ever saw one.

What you’re asking is for black men to go back to an existence of being submissive to white men, not to ruffle any feathers and accept whatever is thrown at them because anything else is playing victimhood.

I can’t believe you’re making me defend men on the internet. Hell has frozen over
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:40pm On Apr 10, 2025
Maeve7:
Because you say so?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:42pm On Apr 10, 2025
basilico:
The whites never liked you then, they still don't . Majority if not all
Yet here you guys are cooning for them.
I’m convinced some of you don’t even know what it is tithe arguing for.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:43pm On Apr 10, 2025
[quote author=basilico post=134932305][/quote]You have just proven Coco’s point.

So let’s stick to your source, shall we?
It’s divided 50/50. Obviously, your golden age wasn’t better for half the country. grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:45pm On Apr 10, 2025
Did you miss the point in this post that you shared?
basilico:
Americans are divided on whether U.S. culture and way of life was better in the 195os, with white Christians more likely to say it was , a new survey finds.
Gee I wonder why. Why do you think white Christians thought life was better then?



Why it matters: Despite the segregation and inequality. of yesteryear, nearly half of 5,027 Americans surveyed are nostalgic for the more [b]homogeneous world of the 1950s,/b] highlighting the political division today along racial and political
lines.
So what we said then?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:46pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
Yet here you guys are cooning for them.
I’m convinced some of you don’t even know what it is tithe arguing for.
I've said this over time and time again, you can search my posts here.
Whites don't like us, they think they are better.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by descarado: 7:47pm On Apr 10, 2025
basilico:
In Africa we had the whole sky for water and whole forests for toilets.
And covid did not finish us too

Africa man defied covid.
Still a mystery
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:48pm On Apr 10, 2025
Maeve7:
You have just proven Coco’s point.

So let’s stick to your source, shall we?
It’s divided 50/50. Obviously, your golden age wasn’t better for half the country. grin
I’m convinced they just think they have to argue the opposite of whatever we say. Even when it’s not necessary.

Like can we all agree with 1950s weren’t that great for everyone in general but horrible for black Americans in particular?

If they were talking about 1990s-early 2000s. We could have been having a different conversation.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 7:49pm On Apr 10, 2025
LordReed:
What of those places where murder convicts don't get death sentences, how is that any different?
That is why I am saying the No death sentence law does not make sense to me in certain cases, especially mass murderers like the ones we have been talking about
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:49pm On Apr 10, 2025
basilico:
I've said this over time and time again, you can search my posts here.
Whites don't like us, they think they are better.
I’m seeing that we’re making progress.
Be careful bemeruca will say you’re playing victim
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:50pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
I’m convinced they just think they have to argue the opposite of whatever we say. Even when it’s not necessary.

Like can we all agree with 1950s weren’t that great for everyone in general but horrible for black Americans in particular?

If they were talking about 1990s-early 2000s. We could have been having a different conversation.
True. cheesy
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Omofaye99: 7:52pm On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
It's not just Biden, it's every past administration for the past 40yrs who watched as American manufacturing shut down and the people and communities who depend on them left behind

If you notice, it's why Trump won all the rust belt states. The middle states who depend a lot on manufacturing and who got affected the most by the loss of manufacturing jobs after they were deceived for long

These people believed and voted for past presidents who promised to bring these jobs back and didn't do it
You’re right that the decline of American manufacturing started long before Biden, and no administration has fully solved it.

Many voters in the Rust Belt often support candidates who speak to their concerns, especially when they feel their needs are not being met. This is why Trump gained support in 2016. People hoped he would make a difference, but that didn’t happen. If his present administration continues in its chaotic direction, the next election might eventually lean towards another Democratic candidate promising change, no matter their past performance.

This cycle of hope followed by disappointment will continue to the demerit of the RustBelt voters searching for someone who will truly addresses their needs.


It's a sad cycle.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:54pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
It takes a special level of buffoonery to say people were happier in the 50s. This totally disregards the experience of black people. The only people who were happier in the 50s were white people. If you can’t see that because you choose not to see things “through a lens of race”, it means you’re totally disconnected from your own identity. It’s not a flex. Unless you think only white people are humans. Therefore when assessing happiness only their happiness counts.

If we make American great again to be like the 50s, you will not be part of the prosperous class. You’re going back to fighting for civil rights. I can’t believe we’re having this conversation in 2025. A group of black men who want to go back to the times before they had the right to vote.

I’m nauseated 🤢
Imagine a black man looking at the 50's with nostalgia.
Self hate is a hell of a drug.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:54pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
I’m sure you’re about to teach me


Tell me how a black man today is more affected than black men in the 50s who had to witness public lynchings and hold their peace so that they wouldn’t be next.
I said blacks today think they are more affected than the people who witnessed it. The fact that they want always to go back to what they did not witness is mind bugging. Blacks in those days were being lynched, today's black people wish to the lynching so bad so they are making hoaxes every here and there.

cococandy:
Don’t mistake people being more vocal and advocating for themselves as being more affected. What you’re witnessing is a generation of people who are not okay with letting things be the way they used to be. So they speak up more, agitate more and tolerate less. It doesn’t mean they have it worse than those who directly experienced the horrors.
How is it being vocal by refusing to move on?
A lot has changed. If black Americans have the same mentality and culture they did back in the 50s, they'd be top class in the country.

There is a reason they hate US from Africa. we are most likely to be successful and be more educated
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:55pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
Did you miss the point in this post that you shared?
Gee I wonder why. Why do you think white Christians thought life was better then?





So what we said then?
Generally that's what I've picked from comments , not necessarily from white people. From mostly disqus and substacks.
Older generation not specific to any race. It was easier achieving one's life targets.
One area was job availability. Most people took up jobs they were passionate about be it a teacher, coach, fireman. They chose a career , most stuck with it and were able to raise strong families.
Today careers are all about money for a majority Not passion.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 7:57pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
happiness is all about money?

Any conversation that doesn’t take the very vital component of American history which is race into consideration is null and void.

Because your dollar ain’t taking you nowhere when you can’t even buy a house in the neighborhood you want.

Dull conversations without nuance irk me
Isn't that the problem with MAGA, a lot of conversations have 0 nuance, well they have 0 facts as well.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 7:58pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
I’m seeing that we’re making progress.
Be careful bemeruca will say you’re playing victim
In my post, I already said white men use welfare and abortion to destroy the black community.
When do blacks start to take responsibility for themselves?

Joe Biden, whom you support, was part of it.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:01pm On Apr 10, 2025
cococandy:
I’m sure you’re about to teach me


Tell me how a black man today is more affected than black men in the 50s who had to witness public lynchings and hold their peace so that they wouldn’t be next.

Don’t mistake people being more vocal and advocating for themselves as being more affected. What you’re witnessing is a generation of people who are not okay with letting things be the way they used to be. So they speak up more, agitate more and tolerate less. It doesn’t mean they have it worse than those who directly experienced the horrors.

As of 1968, public lynching of black people was still a thing. In other for people to survive then, they had to have put on a facade, keep their heads down and swallow their pride so as not to be the next in the trees. That’s some soul crushing existence if I ever saw one.

What you’re asking is for black men to go back to an existence of being submissive to white men, not to ruffle any feathers and accept whatever is thrown at them because anything else is playing victimhood.

I can’t believe you’re making me defend men on the internet. Hell has frozen over
Biko. Whatever. smiley
But the truth is you are doing a better job of speaking about the black male experience than than he is.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:02pm On Apr 10, 2025
[quote author=Maeve7 post=134932337]You have just proven Coco’s point.

So let’s stick to your source, shall we?
It’s divided 50/50. Obviously, your golden age wasn’t better for half the country. grin[/quote

Are you happy with your career for a start? Are you learning a new trade just to keep up
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:04pm On Apr 10, 2025
basilico:
I've said this over time and time again, you can search my posts here.
Whites don't like us, they think they are better.
The same whites you spend your life here defending and cooning for?
Mind Blown. 🤯🤯🤯
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordReed(m): 8:07pm On Apr 10, 2025
raumdeuter:
That is why I am saying the No death sentence law does not make sense to me in certain cases, especially mass murderers like the ones we have been talking about
Still 30 days is too fast for that kind of thing.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:13pm On Apr 10, 2025
These are white supremacists talking points. I saw it first hand. When you first land in the west and start going to church. Them racist old white people surround you and start feeding you anti AA propaganda. If you’re not careful you get lost in it and start espousing white supremacy ideals. This propaganda travels to Africa too. That’s why you see Africans who haven’t lived in America talking bad about African American people. But they have no idea that white people have worse communities within them. That’s the effect of propaganda.

The same ills they tell you plague the black community here (which is real let’s be honest) can also be found in white communities. Go to the Appalachias. Go to the country sides. Full of drugged out white people with no education. Meth heads and junkies. The opioid crisis has done them dirty. If they had been black, half of their population would be in prison for opioid offenses. Instead, they receive compassion from the American people. But black people on the other hand receive vitriol and prison for the similar or less offenses.

Even with all the generational wealth their forefathers amassed for them for centuries, they still have to compete with black people who only got civil rights in the 1960s. For people who got a bigger generational start than the rest of the population, white people shouldn’t even have poor drugged out communities the way they do.

BTW how do you move on from active racism? Just smile when someone calls you a n*gger? Is that how?
Because they still exist in their full racism and still practice their racism. Asking black people to move on while being under racist attack is crazy.

People can and should be able to talk about societal ills without folks like you chiming in to say they are refusing to move on.
bemeruca:
I said blacks today think they are more affected than the people who witnessed it. The fact that they want always to go back to what they did not witness is mind bugging. Blacks in those days were being lynched, today's black people wish to the lynching so bad so they are making hoaxes every here and there.



How is it being vocal by refusing to move on?
A lot has changed. If black Americans have the same mentality and culture they did back in the 50s, they'd be top class in the country.

There is a reason they hate US from Africa. we are most likely to be successful and be more educated
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by uglymods: 8:13pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
The same whites you spend your life here defending and cooning for?
Mind Blown. 🤯🤯🤯
ya isa sex ah white gay ye. kikikikikikikikikiki

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:14pm On Apr 10, 2025
IjeBos:
Biko. Whatever. smiley
But the truth is you are doing a better job of speaking about the black male experience than than he is.
Everyone on nairaland knows me as a bitter feminist. He’s ruining my reputation 🤭
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:18pm On Apr 10, 2025
[quote author=basilico post=134932573][/quote]I’m very happy with my career. My overall happiness level is 9 out of 10. It will be 10/10 once the MAGA movement goes down for what it is, another shameful period in American history. It’s just a matter of time.
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