₦airaland Forum

owobokiri:
Like I told you earlier, visionaries build states not some pacifist charlatans. You lack what it takes to pontificate on this issue., it is obviously way above your pay grade..Any FAKE igbos here who think that it is politically right for the igbos to overlook the possibility of being surrounded by enemy states post Nigeria, is an ijiot on steroids. By their arguments you will know them. Once you see some of them arguing vigorously about who should be allowed to be this and that in the east, while not saying much about the oppression the igbos go through, they are FAKE.

Get this though: any part of the eastern or south south or even middle belt minorities that share any sort of cultural affinities, religious beleifs or boundaries with igboland, that wants to join the Biafra movement will be graciously welcomed. The most important issue here is; "are they willing to join without being forced"? If yes, folks like you will have to jump out of the window then because their opinions/commitments to the emerging state, counts more than your sterile rants.
There you have it..

All your talk about how the igbos are hated all over the South South is jejune, because that has never beeen established as a fact by anyone. I dontbagree with the nauseating notion that igbos are an endangeredspecie in the South South. That sounds more like the opinion of an agbadorian dingbat than that of a politically aware igbo man...The fulanis are hated in some parts of the north anyways. Ditto the Hausas. Uet, one month is the goal up there! We dont even know the percentage of people that hates who and who in the South South. You are on your own here! We saw the South South come out massively to vote for Peter Obi, but to you that does not count because the elections were rigged. Imagine that! Where elections not rigged in whatever state you come from too?

The South South are part and parcel of the emerging Biafra Republic! You will soon get used to that as your sterile opinion is that of a disoriented minority. Any scoundrel that doesn't like that should go and get his guns ready.. Because it will be decided after a roforofo. Who are even the socalled South south? A region that has a a large chunk of igbos and igbo soil? A place full of ethnic groups without any serious boundary demarcation between them and their Igbo neighbours? A geographical location created by the same army Generals that committed genocide in igbo land?

You are deluded..

Lifestone:
You acting true to yourself, what stops Zik from allowing a Yoruba Man to fly the flag of NCNC to become a premier in South West? Because Igbos want to dominate others. Well it failed and you are pained , pained because others refused to be dominated by Igbos, you called it tribalism.
Maybe you should explain how Zik became Premier in the South East.

Obaaderemi2:
He already explained. Eyo Ita was pushed out by Zik for alleged anti party acts so that Zik could take over since the party Ncnc was basically an ibo party

Lifestone:
This would have been possible, but blame your fore fathers for being short sighted.

pazienza:
Lagos was made by the Colonials using wealth from all over Nigeria.
In 1906, Sir Egerton amalgamated SW with SS and SE and moved the capital of the old Southern Nigeria (SE and SS) from Calabar to Lagos!

Before this period, Lagos wasn't more developed than other parts of Nigeria.

You not okay, you want to eat your cake and have it?
We will move once Nigeria divides and our commonwealth is no longer cornered by Lagos.
You know how much that enters to Lagos by being the only maritime gateway to Nigeria and the main airway gate ways?
All the major foreign investments meant for the whole country are all poured into Lagos for this same purpose too.
Once the country divides and Lagos stops feeding off the rest of the country, we will abandon it for you Yarribas so that you can turn it to Porto Novo standard.

pazienza:
You must be a clown.
How was Eyo Ita pushed out by Zik?
Eyo Ita chose to be a happy slave under colonial rule rather than make sacrifices to help with the independence push.

It's same way you chose to be receiving peanuts from Tinubu while you support a government that is impoverishing the whole commoners in the country.

Lifestone:
I was seriously thinking you are better. Seems, I'm wasting time debating you. For you to say Yorubas, not even Lagos wasn't ahead of you way before 1914 means you are either a joke, your knowledge of history is not as robust as you portrayed it or you are a deliberate revisionist. All is historical fraud.

Lifestone:
I was seriously thinking you are better. Seems, I'm wasting time debating you. For you to say Yorubas, not even Lagos wasn't ahead of you way before 1914 means you are either a joke, your knowledge of history is not as robust as you portrayed it or you are a deliberate revisionist. All is historical fraud.

gidgiddy:
Blame the current generation who have chosen to remain short sighted over a Nigeria that can never work

Obaaderemi2:
You are the clown here as even your fellow easterners can see and have been pointing out. Did Eyo Ita resign wilfully?

pazienza:
Have you ever seen a selfish betrayer of public cause give up his selfish pecks freely?

Obaaderemi2:
So in essence, he was pushed out. Here you have your answer, Lifestone

pazienza:
Lol! Yes Lagos wasn't ahead as of 1905.
Infact Lagos Colony ( SW) couldn't afford the dredging of the port in Lagos as of 1905, and other capital projects..
But immediately it was joined to Southern protectorate( SS and SE) in 1906, money was provided to dredge Lagos port over Calabar port that was originally planned for,and alot of capital intensive projects that Lagos colony had no funds for, miraculously commenced.
And we all know where the money came from. That's when the robbing of Peter( SE and SS ) to pay Paul started, even before the second amalgamation took place in 1914.

Lifestone:
For saying this, You are obviously not as literate as you portrayed yourself.

pazienza:
Have you ever seen a selfish betrayer of public cause give up his selfish pecks freely?
As you are now, if I ask you to give up your job of defending Tinubu and ApC that have impoverished Nigerians since 2015 and counting and join the noble cause of forcing Tinubu and his likes out of power, will you agree?
The answer is nope.
Even if Naira is turning to tissue paper, even if most Nigerians can nolonger feed on daily basis, even though our GDP has shrunk and our debt profile is on astronomical rise, what's more important to you is the peanuts you get from Tinubu that keeps you relatively okay while the rest of the populace suffer.

Just like Eyo Ita, you will resort to "Igbo domination" screeching too at anyone trying to oust Tinubu.

Nigeria has been on a loop since 1914, same shit, different players.
Pathetic.

pazienza:
Three NCNC central (national) ministers
were the first culprits and were summarily
dismissed from the party. They were
A.C.Nwapa (Igbo), EniNjoku (Igbo) and
Okoi Arikpo(Ogoja).

ONLY DrEndeley (Cameroun) was
supportive of the tactics.Eyo Ita, the Head
of Government Business in Eastern
Nigeria and some of his ministers picked
against the policy and were flabbergasted
when the central ministers were
dismissed by the party. Of course, when
the party asked them to resign, they
equally rebelled against the party and
refused to comply. They became known
as ‘sit-tight ministers’.

Amongst them wereEyoIta (Ibibio),E.I.Oli
(Igbo), S.J.Una (Ogoja), R.I.Uzoma (Igbo),
S.W.Ubani-Ukoma (Igbo) and
S.J.Koripoma (Ijaw). Those who complied
with party directive and resigned were
Dr.M.I.Okpara (Igbo), M.C.Awgu (Igbo)
and S.T.Muna (Bamenda, Cameroun).

Lifestone:
I was seriously thinking you are better. Seems, I'm wasting time debating you. For you to say Yorubas, not even Lagos wasn't ahead of you way before 1914 means you are either a joke, your knowledge of history is not as robust as you portrayed it or you are a deliberate revisionist. All is historical fraud.
NB

Oh lest I forget, the Eastern Ports are there for Igbos to ship through what's stopping them, Onne Port is one of the most modern ports in West Africa.

Obaaderemi2:
You are the clown here as even your fellow easterners can see and have been pointing out. Did Eyo Ita resign wilfully?

Obaaderemi2:
Well, you are getting ahead of yourself. Eyo Ita was elected, wasn't he? He was simply a dog giving a bad name so that Zik could take over. If zik had succeeded in SW as Premier, he wouldn't have turned his attention to the East.
I don't know why you think every Yoruba person support and defend Tinubu. If he comes up with a good policy I support it. If the policy is bad I don't support it.

Nigeria wasn't doing well economically before Tinubu came in. It was only patched up here and there. Now those filters have been removed, we know the true condition of our economy. That's how I see it. But then Tinu is just as corrupt as the Pandora thief you support

Obaaderemi2:
This doesn't prove anything. Many Yorubas did not support Awo too. And there was the Okoli Akinsanya affair in which Awo supported Akinsanya against Okoli

Yourbaslayer:
This is one very unintelligent post, i don't even know why he's even responding to your useless comments

Buccalcavity2:
Your lies were burst in the other thread but you ran here. Zik lost election. You started the propaganda that others were tribalistic. I guess the pattern never changes. U no dey tire?

Ritchiee:
Igbos are really a case to themselves.
A largely tribalistic Igbo people pushed Eyo Ita out for their chief tribalist..Zik to become the premier and there was nothing bad in that but in the SW where Awolowo defeated Zik narrowly,Yorubas were tribalistic even when a large number gave their votes to a chronic tribalist like Zik to be the premier of the Yorubas.
Igbo people cannot change from being backstabbers,betrayers and chronic hypocrites.
Their chronic betrayal tendency is what made the Hausa/fulani and others be wary and stay aloof from them.
lol
Yorubas are just waking up to Igbos' chameleonism.

pazienza:
In this Eastern region where Igbos were the majority, Eyo Ita was the leader of the government and Obong Calabar was the head of the house of chiefs ahead of Igbo noble kings like Eze Aro, Eze Nri and Obi of Onitsha.

Can we see anything resembling the above that you did for Midwest minorities? Was Oba Bini not relegated to second class chief in western house of chiefs?

You will never be half of a people the Igbos are when it comes to fairness, equity, justice and strife to carry everyone along.

Ndiigbo were tried before Willink commission and was found innocent of all the charges Minorities brought against us, because we are a fair people that uphold fairness.
But Yarribas were indicted by Willink commission report of the western region, you were found guilty of marginalising minorities for real and not just mere allegations.

Look at the kind of nepotistic government Tinubu is running at FG level, then imagine what you lots did in the Western region before the Minorities left.

E no go ever better for people like you.

owobokiri:
What's the bitter truth..? You will never get it.. will you?
China is trying to force Taiwan back into the fold after capturing Hong-Kong and Macau. The same China is readying for a confrontation at the south China Sea. China is holding tight to Tibet and minority enclaves near India borders.. All these areas resent mainland China more than the minorities resent igbos

Russia went to war and decimated the insurrectionists at Chechnya. Chechnya was almost 100% infavout of independence from Russia. Putin didnt say "Oh, they dont like us that much, so we should allow foreigners to take over and dictate policies there in Chechnya'.. Russia went to war and cornered Cremea. Same Russia has now lost thousands of men fighting for portions of Ukraine for obvious geopolitical reasons.


The USA is talking up "The Gulf of America". .., wants to occupy Greenland and has basically surrounded her neighbours with pro America foreign policy thrusts. California, Texas them, New Mexico, at a point moat people in those areas would have voted to either be independent or join Mexico, but the federal forces said no. What does that tell you?

Even in the south-east of today, many in Ebonyi are confused as to where they should lay their loyalty! So what should we do with them? Discard them too as we want to discard the Ibibios and Anangs? People we have lived with and married with for years before the coming of the white man.. All these while the fulani are still fervently stuck with their nebulous "Hausa/fulani" fake identity card?

Ethiopia went to battle few months back to force back a break away region into the fold.
South Sudan that has a lot of tribal groups that resent the dominant madingas are at war today to keep their territories safe.

And some of you close minded so called igbos are busy worrying yourselves about inanities. So what if the minorities complained? Are they not human beings? If they don't like the way things are run and want some autonomy, what's wrong with that? Are you going to replace British colonialism with igbo colonialism?

They want some autonomy? Give it to them but have them in the fold, since they are all so small that if they form independent states, they will easily be hyjacked by some outside forces who can use them as a launching pad to influence politics and life in say Biafra. There are many igbo haters there? Yes! But there are also many igbo lovers there. Just as the federal government empowered that hateful bunch amongst them, you should try and empower those who are pro east/Biafra.., then use them to achieve your political goals. It is that simple..

Y'all are small thinkers..

pazienza:
So you want to build a nation where the constituents are there through the force of gun, you are looking up to the Chinese and Russians as example. You want Ndiigbo to become oppressors in the future, even while you hypocritically cry over Igbo oppression in Nigeria.

See, I have always known that IPOB is a cancer to Ndiigbo. You lots don't operate within Igbo principles, MNK even said he wasn't Igbo but Biafran. Your plans is to strip Ndiigbo of the core values that make us Igbo .

You all have terrorist mentality, you wish you have powers to unleash the terrorists in you, one can really see this with the way you lots handled the "sit at home" in the SE. You hate democracy even though you know the Igbo are by nature democratic and will never endorse suppression of ourselves or others.
Imagine, you even call your leader "Suplim Lida" , a term that is alien to the Igbo tenets as we don't recognise the idea of another human being supreme over us or others.

While rational Igbos want a true nation like those of Netherlands, Germany, etc, where the constituents are ethnically homogenous and all willing participants, you cowards in IPOB are looking to impose non democratic regime on Ndiigbo where you get to rule everyone with iron fist without our democratic opinions, you also hope to annex Minorities into your delusional Biafra and treat them like Russia is doing to Chechnya or China is doing to Tibet. But meanwhile, you are powerless and don't have the powers to unleash this terrorist part of you yet, so you go about pretending they (minorities) are your brothers, you pretend you don't know of the resentment they habour for Ndiigbo, all that doesn't matter to you, you think you are wise, you will pretend they are your brothers and accept all sorts of insults from them towards the Igbo, you tend to use Ndiigbo as shield while you lure them into your autocratic Biafra that you already hope to run in an Un-,Igbo way, since you abhor Democratic principles.

But guess what? The joke is on you, the Minorities see you for what you are, and many Igbos have also started seeing you for what you are.

You have failed bro. You will have no Biafra. No such abomination is coming.
What will happen is Igbo republic and it will not be led by bunch of terrorists with a "Suplim Lida" mentality hoping to copy alien non Igbo subjugation principles from China and Russia.

pazienza:
Zik and NCNC approach would have been same whether he won in SW or not.
Zik was obsessed with independence and kicking the Colonials out .
Either way the point is that you can't prove that Eyo Ita sack was tribally motivated so you are resorting to deflections.

Well as of 2015 when Yarribas under APC came to FG, Nigeria had the biggest economy in Africa. The Igbo headed economic team started by OBJ( a true patriot which is why you tribalists hate him) and continued by GEJ ensured that. But Yarribas inherited the economy under APC while Buhari ran the government and as always, you ruined it all.
And when you inherited the politics too in 2023, your full looting spree and lack of accountability were unleashed.
Nigerians can now see how incompetent a bunch you are in terms of management of scarce resources.
You basically ruined Nigeria and you try to save face by claiming that Obi wouldn't have done better.
But Obi isn't in power, you are in power, you have been since 2015, you wanted Igbos out and in the shadows and you achieved it since 2015, and we have seen how you ran Nigeria into abyss while still blaming Igbos, how much pathetic can you lots be?
Show shame and remorse atleast, you can't be that heartless.

Obaaderemi2:
Biggest economy buoyed up by debts and subsidies. Nigeria was borrowing to pay salaries under okonjo iwealla. Not to mention printing of naira insanely. If subsidy wasn't removed, how could Nigeria have coped now that oil prices have fallen below the $75 benchmark used to set the budget?

We would have been in deep shit by now. Or maybe you were satisfied with the wide disparity between official rate and black market rate for dollars? Nigeria's economy had been bad before Tinubu. We weren't producing much for a country of 200m. We were heading towards another Lebanon. Maybe you would have preferred that

We saw the best of Obi in tiny Anambra and how you eboes were cursing him. ABI do you want me to direct you to the thread? I know all these your rants will eventually lead to you stating clearly what your purpose is, which is your anti-yoruba mentality.

pazienza:
These are lies you wicked Yarribas tell yourselves.
Nigeria has even gone on to borrow more than it did under PDP in this evil APC Yarribas led era, yet all the borrowing were not for the masses but for Tinubu and gang to reloot.

Every country borrow, so nothing is wrong with borrowing, but what is the borrowed money used for? You borrowed, cut off the only thing the citizens enjoy which is fuel subsidy, yet you crashed the economy and impoverished everyone while you loot endlessly.
But as always you are obsessed with Igbo and Peter Obi who isn't in power.
Are you for real?
You wrecked a 500 billion GDP economy and your excuse is what? Peter Obi and Ndiigbo?

ajailer:
My own advise to my fellow Yorubas is that when Ibos are shouting, let them be and when they are tired, they will keep quiet. They love chestbeating.

Some years back, I was having a conversation with these two Ibo guys and all they were saying was that Biafra is coming, Nigeria will break up bla bla bla..... I calmed down and allowed them to finish talking and next thing I told them was that if this country should break up, no Ibo will be allowed to stay freely in the SW, that we Yorubas will tell them all to pack up and go back to where they came from, you need to see how these guys went quiet, they were shocked to hear me say that, and that was when I realized that all these gra gra about Biafra na scam, even if you tell to leave, next thing they will hold on to is tribalism. I understand that they want to feel that they matter too in this country, but the way they have been going about it, even from their past leaders is what is causing them issues with others. You can't achieve anything meaningful through negative emotions, by stiring up hatred in the mind of your ppl towards others. A wise person should know that he does not have the monopoly to hatred and violence, others can hate and be violent too.

The other day, we read on the FP about the guy from SE that wants to relocate here to SW, does that show a ppl who want to develop their region? The fools among them here are based in the SW and will be talking about going back to the east en mass to develop their region just as they have helped others to develop theirs, but the reality on ground is that, everyday, they keep moving to the SW en mass in search of a better life. I have come to realize that they say the opposite of what they mean, very unreliable ppl. Now for the guy that we read his story on the FP, give him some years now, when he starts living a better life here in th SW, he will now turn his ungrateful mouth, and start seeing everything bad in the system, when their presence here is putting a lot of pressure on the limited resources.

ajailer:
What is Independent Oduduwa Republic? Do you see Yorubas move to the SE the way u guys rush down here? If you guys want to be taken serious, let us see you guys go home for Christmas in Dec, and not come back to the SW. Until then, stop complaining, ungratefulness is a sin.