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IjeBos:
There was a case something like this, not entirely similar in MA during Trump's first term.
Being curious where the line is, I looked up Massachusetts procedures and found this.

Massachusetts policy is definitely similar to most other state judicial policies.

Because if he’s not causing chaos he’s not happy. Dude thrives on drama

IjeBos:
Leave it Trump to take an issue they had sympathy amongst Americans on and turn it into a weakness.

Trump could have done everything legally.
They could hired 10x more immigration judges to speed up the process.
They could have even went to Congress for more legislation making it easier to deport people.
And there would have been little to impede them or for people to find issue with.
But they chose the authoritarian, break the law with impunity because they are above the law path.

Seems they have fully earned the distrust of the Judiciary and so the Judiciary is now pushing back.

IjeBos:
There was a case something like this, not entirely similar in MA during Trump's first term.
Being curious where the line is, I looked up Massachusetts procedures and found this.

Rubbish There were 6 agents They told the judge to hear his domestic violence first they would wait outside.
She led 2 agents to the chief Judge office , then returned and smuggled him via backdoor.
Noone is above the law.
Kash Patel.

PDPGuy:
Massachusetts policy is definitely similar to most other state judicial policies.

So, I'm not reflexively "whatever a judge does is right" and do believe in obeying the laws.
But, I can see real issues with this, the worst being The Executive branch using administrative warrants in courtrooms thereby putting the imprimatur of the Judicial branch on the arrest. How does a judge know that the warrant is on the up and up?

I agree with the Massachusetts policy. And if she was trying to get them to make the arrest outside the courtroom, but inside the courthouse, I not only don't see anything wrong with what she did, I think she did the right thing.

I am interested in seeing how this plays out.

https://www.nairaland.com/8409472/trump-administration-reverses-termination-visas

The Trump administration is restoring visas for hundreds of foreign students who had their legal status abruptly terminated stoking panic among many who feared immediate deportation, government officials confirmed.

Justice department attorney Elizabeth Kurlan told a federal court that immigration officials are now working on a new system for reviewing and terminating visas for international students.

The announcement follows more than 100 lawsuits filed by students who were abruptly stripped of their legal right to study in US universities.

An estimated 1,800 students and 280 universities have been impacted , according to a tally from Inside Higher Ed., external

Many affected students appeared to have participated in political protests or have had previous criminal charges, such as driving infractions.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio had previously said the administration would terminate status for people whose actions the administration believes run counter to US interests.

The policy has caused widespread fear and confusion across hundreds of US universities, with some students opting to leave the country pre-emptively rather than face possible detention or deportation.

The Justice Department told the court on Friday that records would be restored in the Student and Exchange Visitor Information Systems (SEVIS), which tracks foreign students' compliance with their visas.

time for someone to release a banger

america jaga jaga
everything scatter scatter
trump dey were waka

Has anyone check the price of their regular online stores? Things have quadrupled since the tariffs swung into effect. I keep getting banned for sharing the screenshots. I think the bots are working overtime

Indiana house passes bill to jail homeless people. Just like it says in project 2025.

Mind you, you can lose your home due to chronic illness. If that happens to you, Indiana Republicans think you belong in jail.

Also the same party consistently against affordable healthcare. Won’t vote for affordable healthcare. Won’t vote against corporate greed that allows Americans to be extorted for everything including healthcare costs.

If you can’t pay and end up homeless, too bad. Off you go to jail.

GloriousGbola:
https://www.nairaland.com/8409472/trump-administration-reverses-termination-visas


time for someone to release a banger

america jaga jaga
everything scatter scatter
trump dey were waka

That will ensure they spend all their useful time getting relevant knowledge not to be used by antisemitic and American hating liberals .
Good move , they have been warned.
Many go to America and after 15 years they have nothing to show except for road trips to nowhere.
I've got relatives there on study visa , they will oncetrate on studies now first .

IjeBos:
So, I'm not reflexively "whatever a judge does is right" and do believe in obeying the laws.
But, I can see real issues with this, the worst being The Executive branch using administrative warrants in courtrooms thereby putting the imprimatur of the Judicial branch on the arrest. How does a judge know that the warrant is on the up and up?

I agree with the Massachusetts policy. And if she was trying to get them to make the arrest outside the courtroom, but inside the courthouse, I not only don't see anything wrong with what she did, I think she did the right thing.

I am interested in seeing how this plays out.

On or about April 17, 2025, an authorized immigration official found

probable cause to believe Flores-Ruiz was removable from the United States and issued a warrant
for his arrest. The warrant provided, “YOU ARE COMMANDED to arrest and take into custody
for removal proceedings under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the above-named alien
[Flores-Ruiz identified on warrant].” Upon his arrest, Flores-Ruiz would be given a Notice of
Intent/Decision to Reinstate Prior Order. He would then have an opportunity to contest the
determination by making a written or oral statement to an immigration officer.
9. The Milwaukee ICE ERO Office was aware that on April 18, 2025, Flores-Ruiz
was scheduled to attend a hearing in his criminal case. The hearing was set to take place in
Courtroom 615, in front of Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge HANNAH C. DUGAN. Based
on the above information, on April 18, 2025, members of the Milwaukee ICE ERO Task Force
traveled to the Milwaukee County Courthouse, with Flores-Ruiz’s arrest warrant in hand, for the
purpose of executing the warrant.
10. I am aware that law enforcement routinely executes warrants and makes arrests in
the public areas of buildings such as the Milwaukee County Courthouse. The reasons for this
include not only the fact that law enforcement knows the location at which the wanted individual
should be located but also the fact that the wanted individual would have entered through a security
checkpoint and thus unarmed, minimizing the risk of injury to law enforcement, the public, and
the wanted individual. As such, members of the Milwaukee ICE ERO Task Force developed a plan
to arrest Flores-Ruiz in a public area outside of Courtroom 615 following his scheduled criminal
court appearance before Judge

They were not arresting him in the courtroom. Public area.
Stop your lies.

Susan Rice lashes out after being removed from the Defence Advisory Council whose job is to advice the Sec if Defence on matters security.

Susan Rice: “Well, if you’re a white male Christian cisgender macho MAGA man, you can be as dumb as a rock and be deemed qualified to serve as Secretary of Defense. That’s apparently what we’ve learned from this episode.

But let’s also be clear, there’s a serious point here. DEI has been used as a slur to suggest that anybody who might be a woman, might be a person of color, might be a religious minority, might have a disability, might be a religious minority, might be a veteran of Native descent, anybody who has benefited in any way, shape, or form from the notion that we all should be treated equally and that we should be viewed on the basis of our merits and not discounted because we happen to be a woman or happen to be a person of color. Anybody who fits the mold of somebody who is not a white Christian cisgender male, is by definition in this administration deemed inferior. That is the vast majority of the people in this country.”

As a black woman she did the rounds on major TV networks lying that the Benghazi consulate attack that killed the ambassador and later 2 former marines was spontaneous and caused by some obsure video that had 20 views in YouTube. at the time she was just the Ambassador to the UN to lie about a matter that was not on her docket.


Other members of the Defense Advisory Council shown the door by Hegseth were all deep state swamp creatures who served under Obama ,Biden ,Clinton and Bush.
Gen Austin had also fired everyone in 2021 setting the precedent.

The dress protocol for men attending the Pope's funeral was Black suit and long tie. The Orange idiot who loves to be the center of attraction for the wrong reasons wore a Blue suit.
This was how he broke protocol when walking with the Late Queen Elizabeth and instead walked in front of her.

What a proverbial fool.

cococandy:
Indiana house passes bill to jail homeless people. Just like it says in project 2025.

Mind you, you can lose your home due to chronic illness. If that happens to you, Indiana Republicans think you belong in jail.

Also the same party consistently against affordable healthcare. Won’t vote for affordable healthcare. Won’t vote against corporate greed that allows Americans to be extorted for everything including healthcare costs.

If you can’t pay and end up homeless, too bad. Off you go to jail.

These people are demons.

raumdeuter:
No one is forcing anyone to adopt Dollar as UK reserve currency you can use Yen. Americans don't give a hoot what you decide to do. You actually do it because it's to your advantage

UK can tell the US to remove all their military bases from their country and run their defence solo to see where you end. We knew how much the UK PM begged last time for the US to help them against the 3rd Reich

You can choose to not share intelligence data and not receive as well.

American people will only vote for those who put America's interest first just like UK will vote only those who put UK interest first

That's why you have your govt and run your own election. Otherwise you can just become America's 51st state

Americans want Trump, we voted him twice not for you or to do UK wishes

If you are not satisfied with your country, you can hold your leaders accountable, vote better leaders or just migrate elsewhere

All these whining like toddlers from across the pond even way more than people who voted and live with Trump policies is peak TDS even worse than STD

Typical MAGA. Seeks isolationism and America first, to keep wealth the country has built over decades by having the worlds reserve currency, but says at the same time, that America doesn't give a hoot about it.

How can we have a conversation when this is your starting point?

Do you understand what will happen to your own livelihood if the UK were to dump the over $700bn it holds in US Debt? Of course you don't. You just dey type nonsense post after post, dey shout all over the place.

America voted Trump, America voted Trump twice......like this is supposed to be something noble. No sir, it's not. From the view of most of the rest of the world, everyone is laughing at you sir.

basilico:

On or about April 17, 2025, an authorized immigration official found

probable cause to believe Flores-Ruiz was removable from the United States and issued a warrant
for his arrest. The warrant provided, “YOU ARE COMMANDED to arrest and take into custody
for removal proceedings under the Immigration and Nationality Act, the above-named alien
[Flores-Ruiz identified on warrant].” Upon his arrest, Flores-Ruiz would be given a Notice of
Intent/Decision to Reinstate Prior Order. He would then have an opportunity to contest the
determination by making a written or oral statement to an immigration officer.
9. The Milwaukee ICE ERO Office was aware that on April 18, 2025, Flores-Ruiz
was scheduled to attend a hearing in his criminal case. The hearing was set to take place in
Courtroom 615, in front of Milwaukee County Circuit Court Judge HANNAH C. DUGAN. Based
on the above information, on April 18, 2025, members of the Milwaukee ICE ERO Task Force
traveled to the Milwaukee County Courthouse, with Flores-Ruiz’s arrest warrant in hand, for the
purpose of executing the warrant.
10. I am aware that law enforcement routinely executes warrants and makes arrests in
the public areas of buildings such as the Milwaukee County Courthouse. The reasons for this
include not only the fact that law enforcement knows the location at which the wanted individual
should be located but also the fact that the wanted individual would have entered through a security
checkpoint and thus unarmed, minimizing the risk of injury to law enforcement, the public, and
the wanted individual. As such, members of the Milwaukee ICE ERO Task Force developed a plan
to arrest Flores-Ruiz in a public area outside of Courtroom 615 following his scheduled criminal
court appearance before Judge

They were not arresting him in the courtroom. Public area.
Stop your lies.

1.)You probably haven't been to a US courthouse.<sarcasm> You aren't getting in the courthouse without going through tight security. These aren't free flowing places with multiple entrances/exists.

2.) The criminal complaint seems to be very contradictory. They didn't want to arrest him in the courtroom but spoke to the courtroom deputy. I don't think ICE should have any business doing that unless they have a judicial warrant.

14. The other members of the arrest team were already present in the sixth floor public hallway when Deportation Officer A and CBP Officer A arrived. Before Deportation Officer A and CBP Officer A arrived outside of Courtroom 615, FBI agents A and B had advised the courtroom deputy for Courtroom 615 that law enforcement was there to arrest Flores-Ruiz. FBI Agent A displayed his credentials to the courtroom deputy and informed him that they were thereto assist ICE in arresting Flores-Ruiz. They agreed that the arrest would take place after Flores Ruiz’s court appearance. The agents then left the courtroom and took positions at different locations in the public hallway

There is no need to involve the deputy of the courtroom if they wanted to make this arrest as if the deputy was helping them to facilitate the arrest.

3.)But they still say that the individual was seen in a public place in the courthouse and in fact there was an agent on the elevator with him. Why didn't the agents make the arrest when he got off the elevator or even prior?

E. Ruiz makes it out of the courthouse and is arrested after a foot chase.
33. After leaving the Chief Judge’s vestibule and returning to the public hallway, DEA Agent A reported that Flores-Ruiz and his attorney were in the public hallway. DEA Agent B also observed Flores-Ruiz and his attorney in the hallway near Courtroom 615 and noted that FloresRuiz was looking around the hallway. From different vantage points, both agents observed FloresRuiz and his counsel walk briskly towards the elevator bank on the south end of the sixth floor. I am familiar with the layout of the sixth floor of the courthouse and know that the south elevators are not the closest elevators to Courtroom 615, and therefore it appears that Flores-Ruiz and his counsel elected not to use the closest elevator bank to Courtroom 615. DEA Agent A followed Flores-Ruiz and his attorney towards the south elevator bank. At approximately 8:50 a.m., DEA Agent A alerted other members of the arrest team that DEA Agent A was on the elevator with Flores-Ruiz. While on the elevator, Flores-Ruiz and his attorney spoke to each other in Spanish, which DEA Agent A did not understand. They exited the elevator on one of the bottom floors of the courthouse and used the Ninth Street public entrance/exit to leave the building.

nateevs:
Typical MAGA. Seeks isolationism and America first, to keep wealth the country has built over decades by having the worlds reserve currency, but says at the same time, that America doesn't give a hoot about it.

How can we have a conversation when this is your starting point?

Do you understand what will happen to your own livelihood if the UK were to dump the over $700bn it holds in US Debt? Of course you don't. You just dey type nonsense post after post, dey shout all over the place.

America voted Trump, America voted Trump twice......like this is supposed to be something noble. No sir, it's not. From the view of most of the rest of the world, everyone is laughing at you sir.

When Britain vote, they should vote Britain LAST. Did anyone force you to make USD the reserve currency? Was Yen or Naira not in existence when you chose to use Dollar. Is anyone begging you to keep the 700bn you hold? Or doing anyone a favor?

America is tired of carrying your leeching as5 so time to carry yourself instead of crying about the choice America made for its future

The rest of the world is laughing yet you are crying and wailing everyday, The worst US state Mississippi have a higher GDP than most top EU countries No wonder you are wailing and crying to be carried. Is it jealousy or what?

Implement policies that will promote growth and prosperity instead of pushing leftists and socialists who goal is a race to the bottom

Why do you think an American want your opinion on how his country is governed or how his tax dollars is spent?. Take that conversation to Downing street and implement it to bring up the GDP and standard of living on your island and stop being a busy body

Starmer and Badenoch dey there, No American cares about them but you TDS Trump choo choo choo

Americans will entertain your opinion when UK entertains Zimbabweans opinion on who they vote into power

AmazonTopaz:
These people are demons.

They’ve used unrelenting propaganda to convince these folks that anything to help them is communism. “We don’t want to end up like communist China” So they consistently vote against their own interests.

Guess what’s going to happen to anyone who becomes homeless in Indiana? They’ll get on a one way bus to California of course 🙄. Because they know they can get some form of assistance or at the very least they won’t freeze to death in the winter. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve admitted a patient and when I ask them if there’s any family member I can call to come pick them up at time of discharge and they’ll say their family is out of state. They all end up in California when they’re down on their luck.

raumdeuter:
When Britain vote, they should vote Britain LAST. Did anyone force you to make USD the reserve currency? Was Yen or Naira not in existence when you chose to use Dollar. Is anyone begging you to keep the 700bn you hold? Or doing anyone a favor?

America is tired of carrying your leeching as5 so time to carry yourself instead of crying about the choice America made for its future

The rest of the world is laughing yet you are crying and wailing everyday, The worst US state Mississippi have a higher GDP than most top EU countries No wonder you are wailing and crying to be carried. Is it jealousy or what?

Implement policies that will promote growth and prosperity instead of pushing leftists and socialists who goal is a race to the bottom

Why do you think an American want your opinion on how his country is governed or how his tax dollars is spent?. Take that conversation to Downing street and implement it to bring up the GDP and standard of living on your island and stop being a busy body

Starmer and Badenoch dey there, No American cares about them but you TDS Trump choo choo choo

Americans will entertain your opinion when UK entertains Zimbabweans opinion on who they vote into power

Kikikikikiki nateevs isa aah securiti ina tha uks. He isa donkey ye.

raumdeuter:
When Britain vote, they should vote Britain LAST. Did anyone force you to make USD the reserve currency? Was Yen or Naira not in existence when you chose to use Dollar. Is anyone begging you to keep the 700bn you hold? Or doing anyone a favor?

America is tired of carrying your leeching as5 so time to carry yourself instead of crying about the choice America made for its future

The rest of the world is laughing yet you are crying and wailing everyday, The worst US state Mississippi have a higher GDP than most top EU countries No wonder you are wailing and crying to be carried. Is it jealousy or what?

Implement policies that will promote growth and prosperity instead of pushing leftists and socialists who goal is a race to the bottom

Why do you think an American want your opinion on how his country is governed or how his tax dollars is spent?. Take that conversation to Downing street and implement it to bring up the GDP and standard of living on your island and stop being a busy body

Starmer and Badenoch dey there, No American cares about them but you TDS Trump choo choo choo

Americans will entertain your opinion when UK entertains Zimbabweans opinion on who they vote into power

Tackle the facts. I have no time for megedefegede. Sebi the UK is inconsequential to the average American? Oya answer question.

As part of the isolationism you seek, do you or do you not want the UK to dump all the US debt it holds on the open market.

nateevs:
Tackle the facts. I have no time for megedefegede. Sebi the UK is inconsequential to the average American? Oya answer question.

As part of the isolationism you seek, do you or do you not want the UK to dump all the US debt it holds on the open market.

Kikikikikiki ya donkey. He isa told ya fix ya camel cuntri ye

nateevs:
Tackle the facts. I have no time for megedefegede. Sebi the UK is inconsequential to the average American? Oya answer question.

As part of the isolationism you seek, do you or do you not want the UK to dump all the US debt it holds on the open market.

Let UK do whatever is good for its economy. Like Americans are doing. Dump it tomorrow of it doesn't favor you and start using Yen or Rubles

So if it doesn't favor you in UK, your govt will say we are doing it for US? That is incompetent governance

raumdeuter:
Let UK do whatever is good for its economy. Like Americans are doing. Dump it tomorrow of it doesn't favor you and start using Yen or Rubles

So if it doesn't favor you in UK, your govt will say we are doing it for US? That is incompetent governance

Then this is conclusion that you don't know what you are taking about.

IjeBos:
1.)You probably haven't been to a US courthouse.<sarcasm> You aren't getting in the courthouse without going through tight security. These aren't free flowing places with multiple entrances/exists.

2.) The criminal complaint seems to be very contradictory. They didn't want to arrest him in the courtroom but spoke to the courtroom deputy. I don't think ICE should have any business doing that unless they have a judicial warrant.


There is no need to involve the deputy of the courtroom if they wanted to make this arrest as if the deputy was helping them to facilitate the arrest.

3.)But they still say that the individual was seen in a public place in the courthouse and in fact there was an agent on the elevator with him. Why didn't the agents make the arrest when he got off the elevator or even prior?

They could have arrested him. Before he got to court, they wanted to do zo in an orderly manner.
CNN is not with you on this, .....

CNN’s crime and justice correspondent Katelyn Polantz acknowledged that the government has a legitimate case.

“It’s unusual, but it’s not unprecedented,” she said, recalling a similar case from 2019 where a Massachusetts judge was charged for helping an illegal immigrant escape ICE agents. Polantz made it clear that federal prosecutors were serious this time: “The attorney general wants to make an example of this. And boy, are they.”
CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig stripped away any partisan fog. “Looking at the complaint, let’s strip the politics out of it. This is a crime,” Honig declared. He laid it out simply: “This judge—let's—let's strip the Trump of it all out. Let's strip the immigration of it all out. Let's say law enforcement shows up at a building with an arrest warrant. They’re looking for person A. Person B then says, ‘Hey, there’s a secret escape door out back,’ and ushers them out. That is textbook obstruction.”

nateevs:
Tackle the facts. I have no time for megedefegede. Sebi the UK is inconsequential to the average American? Oya answer question.

As part of the isolationism you seek, do you or do you not want the UK to dump all the US debt it holds on the open market.

They dump the debt in the market st a lower price tfsn they paid for. What's the new best holder do with it?

nateevs:
Then this is conclusion that you don't know what you are taking about.

Is the UK running its economic policies based on doing anyone a favor and not prioritizing it's needs?
Is UK running it decisions based on what I or any American want or what favors the british voters
If they are then they are incompetent and need to be replaced

Trump is doing what favors America, other countries should elect leaders who will prioritize them too

nateevs:
Then this is conclusion that you don't know what you are taking about.

Kikikikikikiki
Ya conclus ya ah donkey

raumdeuter:
Is the UK running its economic policies based on doing anyone a favor and not prioritizing it's needs?

If they are then they are incompetent and need to be replaced

Trump is doing what favors America, other countries should elect leaders who will prioritize them too

That's the problem. Because you couldn't answer that question, it means you ABSOLUTELY do not know that Trump is doing what favours America.

If you did, you would understand why America's problem is inherently a British person's problem, and vice versa....... You would also understand why neither of those countries' citizens should be voting with their eyes closed.

What is worse than a citizen that votes against their own interests is one that doesn't even know what powers said interest. And this is what you are displaying.

basilico:
They dump the debt in the market st a lower price tfsn they paid for. What's the new best holder do with it?

What are you talking about?

nateevs:
That's the problem. Because you couldn't answer that question, it means you ABSOLUTELY do not know that Trump is doing what favours America.

If you did, you would understand why America's problem is inherently a British person's problem, and vice versa....... You would also understand why neither of those countries' citizens should be voting with their eyes closed.

What is worse that a citizen that votes against their own interests is one that doesn't even know what powers said interest. And this is what you are displaying.

Everything Trump is doing is to the favor of Americans which is why Americans voted for him twice. Americans chose their path and Britain should do the same too.

Americans are barely invested in British elections or whoever you chose, You went Conservative, you went Labor, which American lost sleep over your choice or anything?

Britain is too inconsequential to determine what America should do, the same way Zimbabwe is inconsequential to how Britain votes

Stop crying more than the bereaved, The Americans who voted Trump and living under him are not even crying mucus like you have been doing

raumdeuter:
Everything Trump is doing is to the favor of Americans which is why Americans voted for him twice. Americans chose their path and Britain should do the same too.

Americans are barely invested in British elections or whoever you chose, You went Conservative, you went Labor, which American lost sleep over your choice or anything?

Britain is too inconsequential to determine what America should do, the same way Zimbabwe is inconsequential to how Britain votes

Stop crying more than the bereaved, The Americans who voted Trump and living under him are not even crying mucus like you have been doing

You are just an uninformed voter Dayo.

nateevs:
You are just an uninformed voter Dayo.

Lol. Pele Adepase informed voter, who doesn't live in America but is more informed than 78m Americans who live in America and voted for Trump to lead them

The delusion and smugness of liberals is a global phenomenon