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Its quite funny to think that Donald Trump is my biological brother because we are both descendants of Adam and Eve.

Logic.

As i grew older, i started asking myself logical questions.

The Bible said God created only Adam and Eve. After that, he created no other human being , except the ones that the couple created.

Logically, this cannot be true.

How many races do we have in the world today? Over 6 billion humans on earth, and we are all from Adam and Eve? Are you kidding me?

When Cain was driven into the wilderness for killing his brother Abel, God put a mark on him that anyone who sees him will not kill him. And that 7 lives will be taken for anyone who does.

Now the question is: who will kill Cain that won't know him as his brother (since all humans then came from Adam and Eve)? Secondly, are there more than 7 people on the earth then?

This is just me scratching the surface.

Whats your take on this?
Are we all truly and originally from Adam and Eve?

That's a very deep and important question — and honestly, you're not alone. Many thinkers, theologians, historians, and scientists have wrestled with exactly the same points you're raising.

Let me break it down from a few angles:

1. The Biblical Account:

According to the Bible (Genesis), Adam and Eve were the first human beings.

They had children: Cain, Abel, Seth, and "other sons and daughters" (Genesis 5:4).

The Bible is not very detailed about early human population expansion. It focuses mainly on key figures rather than listing every human.

Some theologians suggest that Cain married one of his sisters or nieces (not considered incestuous back then because the "genetic pool" was supposedly purer).


But still, you raise a good point: when Cain is worried about "anyone" killing him, it suggests a larger population already exists — beyond just immediate family.
This leads to the idea that there could have been other humans either:

Created separately by God (not mentioned in Genesis), OR

Evolved naturally over time (theistic evolution — some religious people believe God oversaw evolution).


2. The Science Viewpoint:

Genetics shows that all humans could trace back to a very small population (some call this "Mitochondrial Eve" and "Y-chromosomal Adam", but they were not the only humans alive at their time — just the ones whose descendants survived today.

Homo sapiens have been around for about 200,000 years, with different races and genetic traits evolving based on geography, environment, and isolation.


In other words:
Science suggests we all share a common ancestry — but not necessarily in the way Genesis describes (a literal Adam and Eve only, 6,000 years ago).


3. The Logical/Philosophical View:

If you take Genesis symbolically, Adam and Eve can represent the first conscious humans — the ones given morality, reason, and accountability by God.

Cain's fear then could make sense: he’s afraid of other early humans, not necessarily siblings only.

4. My Take:

I personally think the core message of Genesis is about human nature: our tendency to choose between good and evil, our relationships, our need for God — rather than a strict biology textbook.

Whether Adam and Eve were literal or symbolic, the idea that all humanity is interconnected (even Trump being your "brother" in that sense!) is powerful.

But logically and scientifically, the idea that only two people led to billions without any other source is extremely difficult to accept without adding other explanations (e.g., other early humans, evolution).

One theory that I heard from a very religious dude is that there's an incest switch under God's desk. And he can use it to make incest safe or unsafe. So after he sent Adam and Eve out the garden, he flipped off the switch thereby making incest safe for the time being, allowing Adam and Eve and their generations to practice incest without inbreeding consequences. When the population grew substantial God then turned on the the switch and made incest unsafe once more.

Another theory I heard was that God created other humans after sending Adam and Eve out of the garden. But then if this is so, the concept of "All are born sinners" no longer applies because some people weren't descended from Adam and Eve therefore do not have the curse of original sin, which means that they don't need anybody to die for them.

Manhood85:
That's a very deep and important question — and honestly, you're not alone. Many thinkers, theologians, historians, and scientists have wrestled with exactly the same points you're raising.

Let me break it down from a few angles:

1. The Biblical Account:

According to the Bible (Genesis), Adam and Eve were the first human beings.

They had children: Cain, Abel, Seth, and "other sons and daughters" (Genesis 5:4).

The Bible is not very detailed about early human population expansion. It focuses mainly on key figures rather than listing every human.

Some theologians suggest that Cain married one of his sisters or nieces (not considered incestuous back then because the "genetic pool" was supposedly purer).


But still, you raise a good point: when Cain is worried about "anyone" killing him, it suggests a larger population already exists — beyond just immediate family.
This leads to the idea that there could have been other humans either:

Created separately by God (not mentioned in Genesis), OR

Evolved naturally over time (theistic evolution — some religious people believe God oversaw evolution).


2. The Science Viewpoint:

Genetics shows that all humans could trace back to a very small population (some call this "Mitochondrial Eve" and "Y-chromosomal Adam", but they were not the only humans alive at their time — just the ones whose descendants survived today.

Homo sapiens have been around for about 200,000 years, with different races and genetic traits evolving based on geography, environment, and isolation.


In other words:
Science suggests we all share a common ancestry — but not necessarily in the way Genesis describes (a literal Adam and Eve only, 6,000 years ago).


3. The Logical/Philosophical View:

If you take Genesis symbolically, Adam and Eve can represent the first conscious humans — the ones given morality, reason, and accountability by God.

Cain's fear then could make sense: he’s afraid of other early humans, not necessarily siblings only.

4. My Take:

I personally think the core message of Genesis is about human nature: our tendency to choose between good and evil, our relationships, our need for God — rather than a strict biology textbook.

Whether Adam and Eve were literal or symbolic, the idea that all humanity is interconnected (even Trump being your "brother" in that sense!) is powerful.

But logically and scientifically, the idea that only two people led to billions without any other source is extremely difficult to accept without adding other explanations (e.g., other early humans, evolution).

Thank you very much.

A logical mind is an open mind

Everyday247:
One theory that I heard from a very religious dude is that there's an incest switch under God's desk. And he can use it to make incest safe or unsafe. So after he sent Adam and Eve out the garden, he flipped off the switch thereby making incest safe for the time being, allowing Adam and Eve and their generations to practice incest without inbreeding consequences. When the population grew substantial God then turned on the the switch and made incest unsafe once more.

Another theory I heard was that God created other humans after sending Adam and Eve out of the garden. But then if this is so, the concept of "All are born sinners" no longer applies because some people weren't descended from Adam and Eve therefore do not have the curse of original sin, which means that they don't need anybody to die for them.

Lol. Switch bawo

Sounds like something from a Hollywood movie



The one i heard was that White men were once Black men and them there was evolution and bla bla bla...
Sounds ridiculous really

Uchesis:
_{Lol. Switch bawo
Sounds like something from a Hollywood movie
The one i heard was that White men were once Black men and them there was evolution and bla bla bla...
Sounds ridiculous really}

Any more info on this?

Everyday247:


Any more info on this?

Unfortunately I don't have much info on this.

Only thing i remember was the write-up saying that in the beginning all humans were brown in colour, then due to exposure to certain climatic conditions some set of people started becoming light skinned like an albino initially before becoming fully Caucasian. Changes in eyes colour, hair etc followed
It was more like a mutation



It was a funny read

Everyday247:
One theory that I heard from a very religious dude is that there's an incest switch under God's desk. And he can use it to make incest safe or unsafe. So after he sent Adam and Eve out the garden, he flipped off the switch thereby making incest safe for the time being, allowing Adam and Eve and their generations to practice incest without inbreeding consequences. When the population grew substantial God then turned on the the switch and made incest unsafe once more.

Another theory I heard was that God created other humans after sending Adam and Eve out of the garden. But then if this is so, the concept of "All are born sinners" no longer applies because some people weren't descended from Adam and Eve therefore do not have the curse of original sin, which means that they don't need anybody to die for them.

Or or... instead of coming up with convoluted ways to resolve what is evidently not possible and contradictory to what we've observed about how the world works and actual evidence, following Occam's razor we call it out for what it is. A myth, nothing more, no need for mental gymnastics to resolve convoluted impracticalities.

Uchesis:
Unfortunately I don't have much info on this.

Only thing i remember was the write-up saying that in the beginning all humans were brown in colour, then due to exposure to certain climatic conditions some set of people started becoming light skinned like an albino initially before becoming fully Caucasian. Changes in eyes colour, hair etc followed
It was more like a mutation



It was a funny read

Hmmm 🤔

Lucifyre:
_{Or or... instead of coming up with convoluted ways to resolve what is evidently not possible and contradictory to what we've observed about how the world works and actual evidence, following Occam's razor we call it out for what it is. A myth, nothing more, no need for metal gymnastics to resolve convoluted impracticalities.}

That's short sided.
Explanations like these helps people think.
Dogma results when you accept or dismiss a hypothesis without proper scrutiny.

Uchesis:
Its quite funny to think that Donald Trump is my biological brother because we are both descendants of Adam and Eve.

Logic.

As i grew older, i started asking myself logical questions.

The Bible said God created only Adam and Eve. After that, he created no other human being , except the ones that the couple created.

Logically, this cannot be true.

How many races do we have in the world today? Over 6 billion humans on earth, and we are all from Adam and Eve? Are you kidding me?

When Cain was driven into the wilderness for killing his brother Abel, God put a mark on him that anyone who sees him will not kill him. And that 7 lives will be taken for anyone who does.

Now the question is: who will kill Cain that won't know him as his brother (since all humans then came from Adam and Eve)? Secondly, are there more than 7 people on the earth then?

This is just me scratching the surface.

Whats your take on this?
Are we all truly and originally from Adam and Eve?

Notice how your statement is 'so so so said', not that it's verified or verifiable. Anyways you'd have to demonstrate an Adam and Eve actually existed in the first place. If not it's no different from Adapa, Pandora, Enkidu, Manu, Ask or Embla. Just more popular. The very fact that if we were inbred there wouldn't be enough genetic variety to avoid massive birth defects and extinction is enough to put it down as a myth like the others i mentioned.

Everyday247:
That's short sided.
Explanations like these helps people think.
Dogma results when you accept or dismiss a hypothesis without proper scrutiny.

I disagree but you're not wholly wrong. Asking questions like he's doing is what helps people think. Convoluted explanations serves no purpose than reinforcing the cognitive dissonance that leads to outright acceptance of said impractical dogmas.

Lucifyre:
I disagree but you're not wholly wrong. Asking questions like he's doing is what helps people think. Convoluted explanations serves no purpose than reinforcing the cognitive dissonance that leads to outright acceptance of said impractical dogmas.

personally, I don't think it reinforces dogmas cuz giving them a theory allows them to scrutinize the theory and determine if what they believe makes sense or not.

Manhood85:
That's a very deep and important question — and honestly, you're not alone. Many thinkers, theologians, historians, and scientists have wrestled with exactly the same points you're raising.

Let me break it down from a few angles:

1. The Biblical Account:

According to the Bible (Genesis), Adam and Eve were the first human beings.

They had children: Cain, Abel, Seth, and "other sons and daughters" (Genesis 5:4).

The Bible is not very detailed about early human population expansion. It focuses mainly on key figures rather than listing every human.

Some theologians suggest that Cain married one of his sisters or nieces (not considered incestuous back then because the "genetic pool" was supposedly purer).


But still, you raise a good point: when Cain is worried about "anyone" killing him, it suggests a larger population already exists — beyond just immediate family.
This leads to the idea that there could have been other humans either:

Created separately by God (not mentioned in Genesis), OR

Evolved naturally over time (theistic evolution — some religious people believe God oversaw evolution).


2. The Science Viewpoint:

Genetics shows that all humans could trace back to a very small population (some call this "Mitochondrial Eve" and "Y-chromosomal Adam", but they were not the only humans alive at their time — just the ones whose descendants survived today.

Homo sapiens have been around for about 200,000 years, with different races and genetic traits evolving based on geography, environment, and isolation.


In other words:
Science suggests we all share a common ancestry — but not necessarily in the way Genesis describes (a literal Adam and Eve only, 6,000 years ago).


3. The Logical/Philosophical View:

If you take Genesis symbolically, Adam and Eve can represent the first conscious humans — the ones given morality, reason, and accountability by God.

Cain's fear then could make sense: he’s afraid of other early humans, not necessarily siblings only.

4. My Take:

I personally think the core message of Genesis is about human nature: our tendency to choose between good and evil, our relationships, our need for God — rather than a strict biology textbook.

Whether Adam and Eve were literal or symbolic, the idea that all humanity is interconnected (even Trump being your "brother" in that sense!) is powerful.

But logically and scientifically, the idea that only two people led to billions without any other source is extremely difficult to accept without adding other explanations (e.g., other early humans, evolution).

your post is logical and an eye opener.kudos

Where was your logic when you saw siblings who do not resemble each other in anyway yet you confirmed and concluded that they were from the same parents?

Seems all the God forsaken people have come out today.

Nobody is forcing you to believe the bible. Leave your life as you like.

Uchesis:
Its quite funny to think that Donald Trump is my biological brother because we are both descendants of Adam and Eve.

Logic.

As i grew older, i started asking myself logical questions.

The Bible said God created only Adam and Eve. After that, he created no other human being , except the ones that the couple created.

Logically, this cannot be true.

How many races do we have in the world today? Over 6 billion humans on earth, and we are all from Adam and Eve? Are you kidding me?

When Cain was driven into the wilderness for killing his brother Abel, God put a mark on him that anyone who sees him will not kill him. And that 7 lives will be taken for anyone who does.

Now the question is: who will kill Cain that won't know him as his brother (since all humans then came from Adam and Eve)? Secondly, are there more than 7 people on the earth then?

This is just me scratching the surface.

Whats your take on this?
Are we all truly and originally from Adam and Eve?

God created only Adam and Eve. Others came to be through Consanguineous relationship and further intimate contact with nephilims. This justifies the theory that all humans are born as sinners

Everyday247:
personally, I don't think it reinforces dogmas cuz giving them a theory allows them to scrutinize the theory and determine if what they believe makes sense or not.

You underestimate people's motivation to eliminate dissonance due to its discomfort simply to restore cognitive balance.

Lucifyre:
You underestimate people's motivation to eliminate dissonance due to its discomfort simply to restore cognitive balance.

It seems like you don't understand how dogma works.
A dogma kept vague and mysterious, will seem incomprehensible and unmeasurable to a human mind and therefore be made divine.

Where as, if a dogma attempts to explain it's ideology in details, it will make it comprehensible and measurable and easy to verify using conventional means.

E.g if you asked most Abrahamics the age of the earth most wouldn't know. Whereas, those who give a date, wether young earth or old earth, will have to explain how dey arrived at the answer, and this can be measured and scrutinized.

The same also goes for the OP's question. Many have simply never asked this question leading to mass dogma amount faithfuls.

Everyday247:
It seems like you don't understand how dogma works.
A dogma kept vague and mysterious, will seem incomprehensible and unmeasurable to a human mind and therefore be made divine.

Where as, if a dogma attempts to explain it's ideology in details, it will make it comprehensible and measurable and easy to verify using conventional means.

E.g if you asked most Abrahamics the age of the earth most wouldn't know. Whereas, those who give a date, wether young earth or old earth, will have to explain how dey arrived at the answer, and this can be measured and scrutinized.

The same also goes for the OP's question. Many have simply never asked this question leading to mass dogma amount faithfuls.

And it seems you don't understand how dissonance works why do you think apologetics exists in the first place. I'd suggest you read up on cognitive dissonace especially from a religious perspective. This thread should give you a fine sample, it just breeds more semantics and mental gymnastics. That's my pov though, no point dancing around facts.

Juliearth:
God created only Adam and Eve. Others came to be through Consanguineous relationship and further intimate contact with nephilims. This justifies the theory that all humans are born as sinners

Simple common sense yet.. some people lack it

Everyday247:
It seems like you don't understand how dogma works.
A dogma kept vague and mysterious, will seem incomprehensible and unmeasurable to a human mind and therefore be made divine.

Where as, if a dogma attempts to explain it's ideology in details, it will make it comprehensible and measurable and easy to verify using conventional means.

E.g if you asked most Abrahamics the age of the earth most wouldn't know. Whereas, those who give a date, wether young earth or old earth, will have to explain how dey arrived at the answer, and this can be measured and scrutinized.

The same also goes for the OP's question. Many have simply never asked this question leading to mass dogma amount faithfuls.

This is just a childish thing. If not for certificates and daddy's mates, every child just guesses by whatever criteria how old they think that their Dad must be. I remember one saying his father was 105yrs

Whereas common sense dictates that you cannot determine the age of those older than you. Plus good training determines that it is evil, rude and offensive to measure your elders

NO.
MALE AND FEMALE GOD CREATED HUMANS FROM HIS INNER FACTORY IN HEAVEN.
ADAM AND EVE HE CREATED IN THE OPEN .

NO.
MALE AND FEMALE GOD CREATED HUMANS FROM HIS INNER FACTORY IN HEAVEN.
ADAM AND EVE HE CREATED IN THE OPEN .

ODUDUIWA AND THE EGYPTIAN HORUS WERE HUMANS CREATED BEFORE JESUS.

Uchesis:
Logically, this cannot be true.

God's works doesn't go along with logics that human brain could comprehend.
God works in a way that surpasses our understanding so you can't compare His works with that of man who only works on what he can see.
First start from creating living things from dust, how logical is that from human's standpoint?

First of all. Who wrote the story of Adam and Eve?

The way the creation happened and all the details. Someone was present to witness and give account. Who was that person?

Or someone made that up as a tool for control. Coz in religion, when u do somtin bad, the next threat u'll hear na Hell and its fury fire. Haba

Natbrowny:
First of all. Who wrote the story of Adam and Eve?
The way the creation happened and all the details. Someone was present to witness and give account. Who was that person?
Or someone made that up as a tool for control. Coz in religion, when u do somtin bad, the next threat u'll hear na Hell and its fury fire. Haba

Only two persons were present during creation both of them aren't humans but spirit beings so they told Moses who penned everything down for us today!

MaxIntheHouse2:
God's works doesn't go along with logics that human brain could comprehend.
God works in a way that surpasses our understanding so you can't compare His works with that of man who only works on what he can see.
First start from creating living things from dust, how logical is that from human's standpoint?

I was thinking you would answer the question asked

Dtruthspeaker:
Where was your logic when you saw siblings who do not resemble each other in anyway yet you confirmed and concluded that they were from the same parents?

Seems all the God forsaken people have come out today.

Nobody is forcing you to believe the bible. Leave your life as you like.

Let me simplify the question for you..


Are all humans in the world today descendants of the only two humans created by God according to the Bible?

Or was there another creation elsewhere on earth that the holy book didn't tell us?

Or did some humans fall from the sky or flew in from mars, venus, etc

Natbrowny:
First of all. Who wrote the story of Adam and Eve?

The way the creation happened and all the details. Someone was present to witness and give account. Who was that person?

Or someone made that up as a tool for control. Coz in religion, when u do somtin bad, the next threat u'll hear na Hell and its fury fire. Haba

You see this question eh....it has more than 1000 answers.

Some people will answer this question as if they were present during the time..


The truth is that the contradictions in the Bible are too much for a book that is supposed to be divine and holy.

In the book of revelations i can call out numerous contradictions as against what was said in other previous books of the Bible.

Uchesis:
I was thinking you would answer the question asked.

You asked no question all what you want to do is discredit God's word so let it be known to you and other atheists or unbelievers like you that supernaturals don't work with logics!

MaxIntheHouse2:
Only two persons were present during creation both of them aren't humans but spirit beings so they told Moses who penned everything down for us today!

The distance between Adam and Moses far small. So the spirits wait make dem born moses to tell am wetin sup

Issssokay oo