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For those who care to know, while the bible has history in it, its not meant for history.

There are those like the OP who search the scripture with wrong objective like looking for contradictions.

The bible is about Jesus and the eternal live that he provides. Fallible men wrote the bible and as such their inadequacies will be seen. But the truth of the scriptures stand out for those who are interested in the truth.

If you are reading as a story book or for contradictions, you waste your valuable time. You can use that time for something more useful.

No amounts of insults will change the truth.

John 5:39-40
King James Version
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Lucifyre:
Where is the proof any of them wrote anything 😁

Keep searching and you will find! Matthew 7:7-8

Dogalmighty17:
You'd need to know that none of the gospels were actually written by the apostles they were named after. And the earliest of them was written 70 years after the death of Jesus. It is hard remembering in detail incidents that happened decades ago. Even more so when the author didn't witness it but is writing based on narratives that were passed down.

The Bible is filled with such contradictions.

If I ask U to produce evidence for your bogus claim now, wahala go start.
U will begin to write long essay devoid of any evidence.
Na the issue I'm facing with one of U here called Lucyfre.

Dogalmighty17:
➜You'd need to know that none of the gospels were actually written by the apostles they were named after. And the earliest of them was written 70 years after the death of Jesus. It is hard remembering in detail incidents that happened decades ago. Even more so when the author didn't witness it but is writing based on narratives that were passed down.
➜The Bible is filled with such contradictions.

That supposition(in bold) is likely invalid given that Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, less than 40 years after the death of Jesus Christ—31-33AD—, and the people either killed or exiled from the country around that same time. Scholars instead state that the time of the writing and the actual writers are unknown to them.

2. Most collections of books written by human authors in human languages are bound to contain contradictory ideas. This is almost a given since not all humans think alike or the same.

Antichristian2:
Was it same Judas that threw the 💰 on the ground and went to hang himself picked the money again to buy the land?

The authorities bought the field with Judas' money. It was blood money and couldn't put the money in the treasury.
They used the money to buy the land where Judas hanged himself.

Death by suicide hanging is abominable in Jewish custom, it was going to be difficult to sell the land to someone.
The practical thing was to buy it and use it as a graveyard for strangers and foreigners.

SIRTee15:
The authorities bought the field with Judas' money. It was blood money and couldn't put the money in the treasury.
They used the money to buy the land where Judas hanged himself.

Which verse of Matthew or Acts mentions the authorities?

(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Acts 1:18 Judas or the authorities?

Death by suicide hanging is abominable in Jewish custom, it was going to be difficult to sell the land to someone.
The practical thing was to buy it and use it as a graveyard for strangers and foreigners.

But i read somewhere that the landed area is now a church now!

MaxIntheHouse2:
Keep searching and you will find! Matthew 7:7-8

The usual empty claims 😁

Lucifyre:
The usual empty claims 😁

OK thanks!

SIRTee15:
If I ask U to produce evidence for your bogus claim now, wahala go start.
U will begin to write long essay devoid of any evidence.
Na the issue I'm facing with one of U here called Lucyfre.

😅 Says the person defending a claim with a claim and no evidence. Park abeg.

olaolaking:
✓ Because the Christians are the only group that use the Bible as reference. They also insist that I must believe and trust the Bible. They have to explain why I should trust the Bible in this case

The book isn't referenced by them only, however, I do agree that they -- unrelated to the book itself --- make the most unnecessary noises about it.

Antichristian2:
Which verse of Matthew or Acts mentions the authorities?

(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Acts 1:18 Judas or the authorities?



But i read somewhere that the landed area is now a church now!

Mathew 27.
5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.” 7 So they decided to use the money to buy the potter’s field as a burial place for foreigners. 8 That is why it has been called the Field of Blood to this day.

I'm referring to ancient Jewish custom not modern ones.

olaolaking:
I hope you are not a poor student? I asked 4 questions based on the possible scenarios of the main question.

I am not your student bound to answer your exam questions but a free member of the public.

And in exercise of my right, I elected to answer the only important question.

And the implications of my answer disposes off the need for answering the remainder for it now falls on your ability of processing information received

SIRTee15:

Mathew 27.
5 So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself.

6 The chief priests picked up the coins and said, “It is against the law to put this into the treasury, since it is blood money.” 7 So they decided to use the money to buy the potter’s field as a burial place for foreigners. 8 That is why it has been called the Field of Blood to this day.

I'm referring to ancient Jewish custom not modern ones.

From the verses you quoted, Judas already went to hang himself before the chief priests went to buy the field!

Something is still not adding up!

You claimed as written in Matthew that the chief priests bought the field with the money Judas threw on the ground!

In Acts of Luke which I quoted the field was bought by Judas himself not by proxy and he died therein.

(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Acts 1:18

Antichristian2:
From the verses you quoted, Judas already went to hang himself before the chief priests went to buy the field!

Something is still not adding up!

You claimed as written in Matthew that the chief priests bought the field with the money Judas threw on the ground!

In Acts of Luke which I quoted the field was bought by Judas himself not by proxy and he died therein.

(With the payment he received for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. Acts 1:18

Matthew was one of the twelve following Jesus up and down but Luke gathered his informations from other believers:

I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them to you in logical order, most excellent The·ophʹi·lus. Luke 1:3

The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach. Act 1:1

So Luke's account was a third party account unlike Matthew, Mark and John who lived and worked together with Jesus in the ministry that's why his own records differ from that of Matthew!

MaxIntheHouse2:
Matthew was one of the twelve following Jesus up and down but Luke gathered his informations from other believers:

I resolved also, because I have traced all things from the start with accuracy, to write them to you in logical order, most excellent The·ophʹi·lus. Luke 1:3

The first account, O The·ophʹi·lus, I composed about all the things Jesus started to do and to teach. Act 1:1

So Luke's account was a third party account unlike Matthew, Mark and John who lived and worked together with Jesus in the ministry that's why his own records differ from that of Matthew!

So one is correct and the other is wrong?

Antichristian2:
So one is correct and the other is wrong?

If that's how you want to put it at least we know Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus for money which he never enjoyed.
That's the main point!

Maximus692:
If that's how you want to put it at least we know Judas Iscariot betrayed Jesus for money which he never enjoyed.
That's the main point!

Yeah, but what happened to the money and how Judas died is contradictory in your scripture!

Antichristian2:
Yeah, but what happened to the money and how Judas died is contradictory in your scripture!

The money belongs to Judas Iscariot and it was used to buy the land where Judas Iscariot died!

Maximus692:
The money belongs to Judas Iscariot and it was used to buy the land where Judas Iscariot died!

Who bought it, Judas or the chief priests?

Antichristian2:
Who bought it, Judas or the chief priests?

Who cares?
What really matters is Judas Iscariot who betrayed his friend died in the course and the money he got from betraying an innocent man was used to buy his burial place.
Ọmọ this totally differs from what your people fabricated as the story of Muhammad where you have strong and weak Hadith o!

Maximus692:
Who cares?
What really matters is Judas Iscariot who betrayed his friend died in the course and the money he got from betraying an innocent man was used to buy his burial place.
Ọmọ this totally differs from what your people fabricated as the story of Muhammad where you have strong and weak Hadith o!

Of course people should care about lies. A book called scriptures shouldn't be this lacking in integrity!

Antichristian2:
Of course people should care about lies. A book called scriptures shouldn't be this lacking in integrity!

Lacking in integrity should be the one your people called strong and weak due to outright lies found in it not reports that's compiled from different people!

In your Hadiths there are questionable records that even a kid will laugh at for instance Muhammad commanding the sun and moon to enter his pockets but that won't disturb your conscience rather it's the reports of two followers of the same man one who really was with him and the other who gathered reports that is lacking in integrity to you!

Maximus692:
Lacking in integrity should be the one your people called strong and weak due to outright lies found in it not reports that's compiled from different people!

In your Hadiths there are questionable records that even a kid will laugh at for instance Muhammad commanding the sun and moon to enter his pockets but that won't disturb your conscience rather it's the reports of two followers of the same man one who really was with him and the other who gathered reports that is lacking in integrity to you!

Baba don change tone to Islamic texts! You never explain how Luke lied finish since Matthew is correct!

And it is also a lie that the Prophet commanded the sun and moon to enter his pocket! I wonder were you dey see all this Luke-like lies!

So since Luke lied in this case, there should be many more lies in that book!

Same Book Paul claimed is God-breathed o in 2 Timothy 3:16.

All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness!

God-breathed contradictions and lies!

olaolaking:
Matthew 27:5: Judas throws the silver into the temple and hangs himself.

Acts 1:18: Judas buys a field and falls headlong, his body bursting open.

These 2 are referring to how Judas Iscriout ended.

But what is responsible for the differences? Which one is correct? Are both correct? How can you defend this as a Christian?

well someone investigated and probably found out that Judas didn't buy the field but those whom he returned the money to, who may have bought it in his name and claimed he bought it and died on it.

Funny guys!

safarifarms:
For those who care to know, while the bible has history in it, its not meant for history.

There are those like the OP who search the scripture with wrong objective like looking for contradictions.

The bible is about Jesus and the eternal live that he provides. Fallible men wrote the bible and as such their inadequacies will be seen. But the truth of the scriptures stand out for those who are interested in the truth.

If you are reading as a story book or for contradictions, you waste your valuable time. You can use that time for something more useful.

No amounts of insults will change the truth.

John 5:39-40
King James Version
39 Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.

40 And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

Where is the truth here Sir? If you claim the writer of the Bible were liable to make mistakes and they did, can I completely rely on their reports? Isn't it God that inspired them to write what they wrote?

SIRTee15:
The authorities bought the field with Judas' money. It was blood money and couldn't put the money in the treasury.
They used the money to buy the land where Judas hanged himself.

Death by suicide hanging is abominable in Jewish custom, it was going to be difficult to sell the land to someone.
The practical thing was to buy it and use it as a graveyard for strangers and foreigners.

The description indicates that Judas left immediately to hang himself. Are you suggesting that he waited probably for days or weeks before he hung himself?

Kobojunkie:
That supposition(in bold) is likely invalid given that Jerusalem was destroyed in 70 AD, less than 40 years after the death of Jesus Christ—31-33AD—, and the people either killed or exiled from the country around that same time. Scholars instead state that the time of the writing and the actual writers are unknown to them.

2. Most collections of books written by human authors in human languages are bound to contain contradictory ideas. This is almost a given since not all humans think alike or the same.

Which means not all the reports are accurate. = Don't rely completely on the Bible account as some writers wrote what they thought

Kobojunkie:
The book isn't referenced by them only, however, I do agree that they -- unrelated to the book itself --- make the most unnecessary noises about it.

Mention other groups that based their beliefs on the bible

Dtruthspeaker:
I am not your student bound to answer your exam questions but a free member of the public.

And in exercise of my right, I elected to answer the only important question.

And the implications of my answer disposes off the need for answering the remainder for it now falls on your ability of processing information received

Thank you for your contribution

Maximus692:
Who cares?
What really matters is Judas Iscariot who betrayed his friend died in the course and the money he got from betraying an innocent man was used to buy his burial place.
Ọmọ this totally differs from what your people fabricated as the story of Muhammad where you have strong and weak Hadith o!

The accuracy of the report matters especially as there were contradictions