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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 12:45pm On May 03, 2025
budaatum:
Are most companies absorbing tariffs like GM or passing it on to consumers?

And if companies are passing it on, isn't it a tax on consumers?
GM is one of those who have shared their strategy with us. Other companies have not.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
Yea Raum said it’s a joke. We’re too sensitive for seeing how tasteless it is. I’m a catholic by birth so obviously I recognize right away how disrespectful it is.

He thinks if people act so sensitive they deserve to be mocked for it. But more of the religious folks are on their side of the political divide so who exactly do they think they’re mocking by doing this? It can’t be Democrats obviously.

It’s like a humiliation ritual he’s putting his catholic followers through.


Not just Obama but Imagine any democrat doing this and the “war on Christianity” propaganda messaging republicans would’ve been doing by now. They’re such tireless hypocrites.

happney65:
How far where una dey? All those who claimed the dems are antichrist and that was why they voted trump where una dey?

Lets just imagine an Obama doing this? Aha,all Hell would have been Let lose.

Ohh sorry, they will say Trump is joking

Awon alaaiyebaje
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:10pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
GM is one of those who have shared their strategy with us. Other companies have not.
The below is not to debunk your claim. I present it as an anecdote.

Microsoft has announced a global price increase for its Xbox Series X console, citing rising production costs and economic pressures. In the UK, the 1TB Xbox Series X now retails at £499.99, up £20 from its previous price. The more premium 2TB Galaxy Black edition has seen a £40 increase, bringing its price to £589.99.

Xbox Series X and S Price Now UK and US
The Xbox Series S has also experienced a price hike, with the 512GB model now priced at £299.99, a £50 increase. These adjustments are part of a broader global trend, with similar increases observed in Europe, the US, and Australia. In the US, for instance, the Series X has risen by $100 to $599.99. https://www.nationalworld.com/culture/gaming/xbox-series-x-price-increase-cost-5110411
Lets keep eyes out so we can update. It would be nice to see companies debunk Smith and be benevolent for once, though I wouldn't believe they are if I were employed by them.

I'll reask about the tax if stars align more.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:11pm On May 03, 2025
cococandy:
Yea Raum said it’s a joke. We’re too sensitive for seeing how tasteless it is. I’m a catholic by birth so obviously I recognize right away how disrespectful it is.

He thinks if people act so sensitive they deserve to be mocked for it. But more of the religious folks are on their side of the political divide so who exactly do they think they’re mocking by doing this? It can’t be Democrats obviously.

It’s like a humiliation ritual he’s putting his catholic followers through.


Imagine a democrat doing this and the “war on Christianity” propaganda messaging republicans would’ve been doing by now. They’re such tireless hypocrites.
Its a joke and it's not because raumdeuter said so.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:12pm On May 03, 2025
happney65:
How far where una dey? All those who claimed the dems are antichrist and that was why they voted trump where una dey?

Lets just imagine an Obama doing this? Aha,all Hell would have been Let lose.

Ohh sorry, they will say Trump is joking

Awon alaaiyebaje
This is utterly insulting.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:18pm On May 03, 2025
budaatum:
The below is not to debunk your claim. I present it as an anecdote.



Lets keep eyes out so we can update. It would be nice to see companies debunk Smith and be benevolent for once, though I wouldn't believe they are if I were employed by them.

I'll reask about the tax if stars align more.
Me now thinks Trump should dropall the tariffs and allow duty free imports
If a company finds it cheaper to manufacture abroad , it should be encouraged so that the citizens can buy the same quality at cheaper prices than if it's made in USA.
That means those companies make more profits which increases the IRS revenue. Win win. More revenue and cheaper high quality products.
Wisdom will kill me
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:19pm On May 03, 2025
budaatum:
The below is not to debunk your claim. I present it as an anecdote.



Lets keep eyes out so we can update. It would be nice to see companies debunk Smith and be benevolent for once, though I wouldn't believe they are if I were employed by them.

I'll reask about the tax if stars align more.
Don't mind the trolls. I am willing to bet that at the end of day, over 95% of companies will pass that tariff on for the simple reason that there is no clear, long-term policy in the actual numbers...... Why should most companies publicly announce an absorption of tariff policy, when the tariff could change tomorrow?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 1:21pm On May 03, 2025
basilico:
Me now thinks Trump should dropnall the tariffs and Allie duty free imports
If a company finds it cheaper to manufacture abroad , it should be encouraged so that the citizens can buy the same quality at cheaper prices than if it's made in USA.
That means those companies make more profits which increases the IRS revenue. Win win. More revenue and cheaper high quality products.
Wisdom will kill me
What am I reading? Is this the Cococandy belief already in play? Why are you making sense?

What do you know?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:23pm On May 03, 2025
cococandy:
Yea Raum said it’s a joke. We’re too sensitive for seeing how tasteless it is. I’m a catholic by birth so obviously I recognize right away how disrespectful it is.

He thinks if people act so sensitive they deserve to be mocked for it. But more of the religious folks are on their side of the political divide so who exactly do they think they’re mocking by doing this? It can’t be Democrats obviously.

It’s like a humiliation ritual he’s putting his catholic followers through.


Not just Obama but Imagine any democrat doing this and the “war on Christianity” propaganda messaging republicans would’ve been doing by now. They’re such tireless hypocrites.
If you think its not a joke, then what do you think it is?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:24pm On May 03, 2025
cococandy:
Yea Raum said it’s a joke. We’re too sensitive for seeing how tasteless it is. I’m a catholic by birth so obviously I recognize right away how disrespectful it is.

He thinks if people act so sensitive they deserve to be mocked for it. But more of the religious folks are on their side of the political divide so who exactly do they think they’re mocking by doing this? It can’t be Democrats obviously.

It’s like a humiliation ritual he’s putting his catholic followers through.

Imagine a democrat doing this and the “war on Christianity” propaganda messaging republicans would’ve been doing by now. They’re such tireless hypocrites.
He already said he was the messiah, so I'm waiting for claims he is God. And if Catholics or anyone don't like it they can dislike it with their vote.

Hubris Comes From Ancient Greece

In classical Greek tragedy, hubris was often a fatal shortcoming that brought about the fall of the tragic hero. Typically, overconfidence led the hero to attempt to overstep the boundaries of human limitations and assume a godlike status, and the gods inevitably humbled the offender with a sharp reminder of their mortality. English picked up both the concept of hubris and the term for that particular brand of cockiness from the ancient Greeks, who considered hubris a dangerous character flaw capable of provoking the wrath of the gods.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:25pm On May 03, 2025
nateevs:
What am I reading? Is this the Cococandy belief already in play? Why are you making sense?

What do you know?
As I said. If people are complaining of cheap prices, allow every company to manufacture abroad.
So that products become cheap. Buying cheaply is very good . Very good. Trump should hire big big post panamax cargo ships to help companies move their plants to China.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:27pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
If you think its not a joke, then what do you think it is?
Cococandy is okay with this.

You don't see them complaining about anything that mocks christians
They are crying because orange man bad 😂

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:28pm On May 03, 2025
cococandy:
Yea Raum said it’s a joke. We’re too sensitive for seeing how tasteless it is. I’m a catholic by birth so obviously I recognize right away how disrespectful it is.

He thinks if people act so sensitive they deserve to be mocked for it. But more of the religious folks are on their side of the political divide so who exactly do they think they’re mocking by doing this? It can’t be Democrats obviously.

It’s like a humiliation ritual he’s putting his catholic followers through.


Not just Obama but Imagine any democrat doing this and the “war on Christianity” propaganda messaging republicans would’ve been doing by now. They’re such tireless hypocrites.
It fits a war crime.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:29pm On May 03, 2025
basilico:
Me now thinks Trump should dropall the tariffs and allow duty free imports
If a company finds it cheaper to manufacture abroad , it should be encouraged so that the citizens can buy the same quality at cheaper prices than if it's made in USA.
That means those companies make more profits which increases the IRS revenue. Win win. More revenue and cheaper high quality products.
Wisdom will kill me
Now you think? Are tariffs no good no more?

Post a conspiracy claiming Apple hides its money in Ireland so the IRS can't get at it, please.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:29pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
He does not have basic understanding of anything

How is VDM EFCC and GTB related to American constitution

BTW see the shock on Van Jones face

You're the reason Republicans want to get rid of classical education. So people can reason like you.
You sound unsurprisingly like you've never thought about law or justice or read about it.

You live in the US, get the benefits of US law while not understanding why someone in Nigeria should deserve the same benefits of the Law.
And while you get the benefits of things like due process you support those who try to trash it so that the US can look like Nigeria, where someone with money can bribe the police to lock up you and your family with the flimsiest of reasons.
And you can trash it because there are people like Dems and the Courts, which you trash, who fight to ensure those backstops in the US constitution are still there.

I and most people compare the legal systems in other countries because it's a real world case study in what happens when countries don't have the same protections afforded in their constitutions the US has.
It's a sad thing that your thought is so shallow you don't understand why someone would compare the US legal system and that of Nigeria. I'm not sure why you want to be thought of as uneducated. But you're leaving that as an indelible belief.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 1:31pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
The better than expected job reports that came out today, who should we credit for that?

or companies like GM absorbing the tariffs

I have no doubt that the credit of the latest better job report goes to Trump; while many lost their jobs, many more have to fill the vacancies created by by Trump's fight against undocumented/illegal migrants.

Now that I have answered your question, would you be kind to tell me without deviating to another topic, who should we hold responsible for the current Market and Economy going south? Trump or Biden?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:33pm On May 03, 2025
IjeBos:
You're the reason Republicans want to get rid of classical education. So people can reason like you.
You sound unsurprisingly like you've never thought about law or justice or read about it.

You live in the US, get the benefits of US law while not understanding why someone in Nigeria should deserve the same benefits of the Law.
And while you get the benefits of things like due process you support those who try to trash it so that the US can look like Nigeria, where someone with money can bribe the police to lock up you and your family with the flimsiest of reasons.
And you can trash it because there are people like Dems and the Courts, which you trash, who fight to ensure those backstops in the US constitution are still there.

I and most people compare the legal systems in other countries because it's a real world case study in what happens when countries don't have the same protections afforded in their constitutions the US has.
It's a sad thing that your thought is so shallow you don't understand why someone would compare the US legal system and that of Nigeria. I'm not sure why you want to be thought of as uneducated. But you're leaving that as an indelible belief.
The first thing people learn in school is that every country determines their own law according to their beliefs

When will this your anger about VDM operating under Nigerian laws spread to the Hamas you support who behead dissidents

Someone who is a Hamas supporter like you whining about VDM being arrested in Nigeria. If VDM were to be in Gaza which you like, would he even be arrested?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:33pm On May 03, 2025
nateevs:
What am I reading? Is this the Cococandy belief already in play? Why are you making sense?

What do you know?
The cococandy belief 🤣🤣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:36pm On May 03, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
I have no doubt that the credit of the latest better job report goes to Trump; while many lost their jobs, many more have to fill the vacancies created by by Trump's fight against undocumented/illegal migrants.

Now that I have answered your question, would you be kind to tell me without deviating to another topic, who should we hold responsible for the current Market and Economy going south? Trump or Biden?
While that is your own opinion, People like Obama and Biden folks claimed credit for the good times under Trump. If other presidents can claim credit for the good times under Trump, why cant Trump push the bad times to them too

BTW I never saw you complain when Obama said "That was my economy" to Trumps first term?

The market under any and every leader is their responsibility even though many of them like Obama Biden and Trump will want credit for the good times and blame others for the bad times

Which market is going south? I know you like to see green and call it red but the chart below is not heading south unless you changed the geographical cardinal points

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:45pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
If you think its not a joke, then what do you think it is?
Pls don’t get confused. I don’t not think it’s a joke.

I think it’s a stupid tasteless joke. I don’t find such crassness funny. If you’re laughing, carry on. I don’t have control over what you do with your sense of humor.

You’re free to find it funny. I’m free to think it’s stupid and won’t be validating the stupidity by kikiing about it.

America land of the free!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:49pm On May 03, 2025
cococandy:
Pls don’t get confused. I don’t not think it’s a joke.

I think it’s a stupid tasteless joke. I don’t find such crassness funny. If you’re laughing, carry on. I don’t have control over what you do with your sense of humor.

You’re free to find it funny. I’m free to think it’s stupid and won’t be validating the stupidity by kikiing about it.

America land of the free!
Its your opinion. Some people cannot take jokes and it's a sickness.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 1:50pm On May 03, 2025
cococandy:
Pls don’t get confused. I don’t not think it’s a joke.

I think it’s a stupid tasteless joke. I don’t find such crassness funny. If you’re laughing, carry on. I don’t have control over what you do with your sense of humor.

You’re free to find it funny. I’m free to think it’s stupid and won’t be validating the stupidity by kikiing about it.

America land of the free!
You think its a stupid tasteless JOKE which implies you still acknowledged it as a JOKE

I will borrow some quotes from you "I don’t have control over what you do with your sense of humor, You’re free to find it UN-funny. I’m free to think it’s hilarious ." I think its completely hilarious and rolling on the floor laughing but you think its not. That is how every human action is viewed, some positively some negatively.

God Bless America the land of the free, where we are free to choose what is funny and what isn't
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:52pm On May 03, 2025
Cococandy this kind of joke is okay with you because if you are so passionate about Trump making such jokes we would have seen you do your usual, cry about this

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:57pm On May 03, 2025
nateevs:
Don't mind the trolls. I am willing to bet that at the end of day, over 95% of companies will pass that tariff on for the simple reason that there is no clear, long-term policy in the actual numbers...... Why should most companies publicly announce an absorption of tariff policy, when the tariff could change tomorrow?
Unlike GM that has been gouging, most companies likely will pass on tariffs, but I'll wait for evidence.

GM cannot pass on the tariffs to consumers because automakers are having to discount their models and throw incentives at the market to sell their vehicles so that they can keep their production lines going. After the massive price hikes during the pandemic, there is no more room left to hike prices. Consumers have had it.

But profit margins in the auto industry have been huge following those massive price hikes, and the companies can eat those tariffs, show up with lower profits, and still be fine.

The stated dual purpose of tariffs is to first change the math for manufacturing in the US, and second, to increase tax revenues. Tariffs were the original tax revenues in the US, predating income taxes.

https://wolfstreet.com/2025/05/02/tariffs-start-washing-into-the-government-checking-account/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ObaIgwe1: 1:57pm On May 03, 2025
bemeruca:
Cococandy is okay with this.

You don't see them complaining about anything that mocks christians
They are crying because orange man bad 😂
Did she tell you she is okay with it.

Ordinary people including comedians can do anything and call it a joke and those who find the joke sensitive will simply overlook it. Also it is not every joke from comedians we find funny. But the problem is if someone or people who should know better carry out the same mockery in the name of joke or humor, then a serious concern will be raised. I'm sure you saw the outrage that also followed “The Last Supper” part of the theatrical opening ceremony at the 2024 Paris Olympics. Anybody or any comedian can act or dress like the pope, but this is not expected of a serious organization or The POTUS. Like happney65 wrote, 'imagine an Obama doing that'.

Christians are largely tolerant and will not kill or cause violent because someone makes mockery of Christ or the religion, that doesn't make it right to mock the religion. Trump should humor me by dressing like an imam holding the Quran during the coming Eid in solidarity with Muslims.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 1:59pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
You think its a stupid tasteless JOKE which implies you still acknowledged it as a JOKE

I will borrow some quotes from you "I don’t have control over what you do with your sense of humor, You’re free to find it UN-funny. I’m free to think it’s hilarious ." I think its completely hilarious and rolling on the floor laughing but you think its not. That is how every human action is viewed, some positively some negatively.

God Bless America the land of the free, where we are free to choose what is funny and what isn't
Funny when extended to choosing if one is a boy or a girl, don't you think?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:02pm On May 03, 2025
budaatum:
Funny when extended to choosing if one is a boy or a girl, don't you think?
As an adult you are free to choose whatever you want to be, The society is just not obliged to agree with you.

Lebron James can claim tomorrow that he is Jill Biden. He has the full right, but the right stops when he wants the society to address him and give him the rights of a first lady like moving into the whitehouse with her husband
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 2:05pm On May 03, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Did she tell you she is okay with it.
He’s fishing for useless back and forth.
Ordinary people including comedians can do anything and call it a joke and those who find the joke sensitive will simply overlook it. Also it is not every joke from comedians we find funny. But the problem is if someone or people who should know better carry out the same mockery in the name of joke or humor, then a serious concern will be raised. I'm sure you saw the outrage that also followed “The Last Supper” part of the theatrical opening ceremony at the 2024 Paris Olympics. Anybody or any comedian can act or dress like the pope, but this is not expected of a serious organization or The POTUS. Like happney65 wrote, 'imagine an Obama doing that'.
We’re in a dearth of common sense if something like this has to be explained. The president of the United States has no standards to be held to is the summary of their stupid defenses of his asinine behavior. But then why is that surprising? This is at the bottom of the egregious things he’s ever done. Comparatively this is nothing for him.


Christians are largely tolerant and will not kill or cause violent because someone makes mockery of Christ or the religion, that doesn't make it right to mock the religion. Trump should humor me by dressing like an imam holding the Quran during the comin Eid for solidarity with Muslims.
Funny thing is they’re usually the first to use this line of argument about how Christian’s are so tolerant. Now this is suddenly okay. Anywhere belle face hypocrites
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:07pm On May 03, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Did she tell you she is okay with it.

Ordinary people including comedians can do anything and call it a joke and those who find the joke sensitive will simply overlook it. Also it is not every joke from comedians we find funny. But the problem is if someone or people who should know better carry out the same mockery in the name of joke or humor, then a serious concern will be raised. I'm sure you saw the outrage that also followed “The Last Supper” part of the theatrical opening ceremony at the 2024 Paris Olympics. Anybody or any comedian can act or dress like the pope, but this is not expected of a serious organization or The POTUS. Like happney65 wrote, 'imagine an Obama doing that'.

Christians are largely tolerant and will not kill or cause violent because someone makes mockery of Christ or the religion, that doesn't make it right to mock the religion. Trump should humor me by dressing like an imam holding the Quran during the coming Eid in solidarity with Muslims.
If he does dress like Imam the same you and cococandy will cry and say he is an Islamophobe blah blah blah.

When she starts crying about others mocking Christianity then she should be taken serious. You don't see us posting lgbt mocking Christianity. If we can tolerate that, then we can tolerate trump making fun as he is allowed. If she can tolerate them, she should tolerate trump too else her concerns are moot.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 2:08pm On May 03, 2025
ObaIgwe1:
Did she tell you she is okay with it.

Ordinary people including comedians can do anything and call it a joke and those who find the joke sensitive will simply overlook it. Also it is not every joke from comedians we find funny. But the problem is if someone or people who should know better carry out the same mockery in the name of joke or humor, then a serious concern will be raised. I'm sure you saw the outrage that also followed “The Last Supper” part of the theatrical opening ceremony at the 2024 Paris Olympics. Anybody or any comedian can act or dress like the pope, but this is not expected of a serious organization or The POTUS. Like happney65 wrote, 'imagine an Obama doing that'.

Christians are largely tolerant and will not kill or cause violent because someone makes mockery of Christ or the religion, that doesn't make it right to mock the religion. Trump should humor me by dressing like an imam holding the Quran during the coming Eid in solidarity with Muslims.
This is complete baloney. When someone makes a joke and you don't like it, what do you do? It doesnt make you superior to those who found it funny

Why is Obama Trump of Biden better than any comedian? Trump was a person before becoming POTUS and its that personality about him that endears himself to people, If you want to get offended, then go for it

Why should he do like Obama? Is Obama the standard for every human in life? Did Obama not crack jokes during his time? Or Trump is only to crack the type of jokes Obama does? Trump does things his own way and people appreciate him because he is original and not being fake or acting a script
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 2:15pm On May 03, 2025
raumdeuter:
As an adult you are free to choose whatever you want to be, The society is just not obliged to agree with you.

Lebron James can claim tomorrow that he is Jill Biden. He has the full right, but the right stops when he wants the society to address him and give him the rights of a first lady like moving into the whitehouse with her husband.
I must agree impersonation should not be allowed, except, things get complicated in the land of the free and the home of the brave and in UK it would seem. And that's why I'm glad UK Supreme finally defined woman as an adult female for those who are confused.

Man can cut off his diq and grow boobs and be she her all he wants, but man prison and hospital please, and not in female sports.
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