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Sand2022:
This doesn't mean he enjoys the show, but this is part of what he allows in this side of heaven. This is one issue that should be left for personal decision.

God is not pleased with people killing people yet his worshipers should be pleased to fight and kill one another!

Maximus692:
God is not pleased with people killing people yet his worshipers should be pleased to fight and kill one another!

No, not again. Don't escape those scriptures I gave. Read those scriptures and try again.

MaxInDHouse:
NO!
They are not worshipers of the same God!

This is where you got everything wrong!

As a worshiper of Jehovah you must keep your senses to know who is on the side of Jehovah not just following the crowd.
Jehovah has never been in support of two opposing sides so it's you who needs to pay rapt attention to know who is doing Jehovah's will.

During the time Joshua led the Israelites to conquer Jericho the inhabitants of that city could have been neutral if they knew Jehovah's will but since only Rahab used her brain to figure out who is having Jehovah's backing she supported God's will.

Now go back to those events and think deeply about each pair of opposing sides, meditate on what each side is fighting for, i'm sure you will know which side Jehovah is before the conquest.

That's exactly what you are missing today.

All the religions on this planet are in one side while the only true religion is on the other side so which one is the only true religion?

If you're not interested in knowing that then i'm sorry for you!

Wrong answer. Respond to those scriptures and prove scrioturally that they were not worshioing jehovah and try again.

Sand2022:
No, not again. Don't escape those scriptures I gave. Read those scriptures and try again.

Typical slitherin' move 😁, don't be surprised he has more up his sleeves 🐍.

Gabrielshow24:
Typical slitherin' move 😁, don't be surprised he has more up his sleeves 🐍.

I am ready for him.

Sand2022:
No, not again. Don't escape those scriptures I gave. Read those scriptures and try again.

Sand2022:
Wrong answer. Respond to those scriptures and prove scrioturally that they were not worshioing jehovah and try again.

You read but got lost due to mischief you concentrated on letters not minding what the spirit of God in doing:

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 2Corinthians 3:6

War is a sign of disunity and God is not for confusion but peace! 1Corinthans 14:33

So whatever makes war erupt it means a party is not doing God's will both can't be doing God's will yet fighting against themselves that is impossible read what Jesus said and think about it:

“Every kingdom divided against itself comes to ruin, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand." Matthew 12:25

Both sides can't be fighting for God and at the same time killing themselves nah.

Haba! Are you saying Satan succeeded in turning God's own camp against themselves?
Abeg what will the angels be doing at that particular time?

Sand2022:
I am ready for him.

And i've been fully prepared for this very moment that's why i keep telling you not to tag me again in your thread because you refused to face me directly.

So if truly you want this then start a new thread for just the two of us preferred title:

"Are Jehovah's Witnesses Right Claiming Only One Group Belongs To Christ?"

You already know my stand that there can't be two groups claiming Christians yet contradicting themselves in teachings so if you are sure of yourself come out plainly just you and i let others give their likes and shares for whoever is hitting the point!

Gabrielshow24:
Typical slitherin' move 😁, don't be surprised he has more up his sleeves 🐍.

Today Radical Islamists are killing people (Christians) and some groups who calls themselves Christians are also fighting back to kill these Muslims.
Please since both sides claim they are for God are they all worshipers of the same God?

MaxInDHouse:
Today Radical Islamists are killing people (Christians) and some groups who calls themselves Christians are also fighting back to kill these Muslims.
Please since both sides claim they are for God are they all worshipers of the same God?

On the surface both claim to worship the same God but when conceptual identities of both sect's God are taken into view, we conclude they are not worshipping the same God!

This straw man is also irrelevant 🤨 as it doesn't address sand2022's question of the various instances of internal strife/differences within God's people, specifically christians.

As an addendum I will like to cite the war Israel fought with Benjamin 😁. Kindly provide an answer and stop making professor Snape proud with all this lie concoctions which you have so perfected🧐 and glorified all in the name to sell your gb scripts.

Gabrielshow24:
On the surface both claim to worship the same God but when conceptual identities of both sect's God are taken into view, we conclude they are not worshipping the same God!

So whatever makes two sides opposing each other for sacred reasons both can't be worshiping the same God!

Gabrielshow24:
As an addendum I will like to cite the war Israel fought with Benjamin 😁. Kindly provide an answer.

What did the Benjaminites do that led to the fight? Judges 19:25
Answer to the above question settle the case Sir!

MaxInDHouse:
So whatever makes war erupt it means a party is not doing God's will both can't be doing God's will yet fighting against themselves that is impossible read what Jesus said and think about it:

You failed to take into consideration that when two sides are at war both always claim they are right🤨.

Even in this heavenly War, Satan will justify his reasons for starting it🤨, he might even say there is nothing like 'true freedom'. He might also say it's all an illusion etc.

In the same vein, your gb🤔 justified it as "wisdom" to keep the identities of child molesters private and suffer 'measurable' loss in the form of compensation/fine!

Now the question should be, who exactly is doing God's will?🤔 Thus, it's not by perspective but by who has God's backing! Both will claim or use divine will to fit their narratives 🤧 but it doesn't necessarily correlate to God's support!

Kindly provide an answer as to why the Israelites fought against David🤔 yet they were all serving the same God🤤. If you stick to this 'absolutism', you make your jelly bean god look like an hypocrite 🤔 'cause he encouraged peace on earth then led his angels into battle🤨. Can you see where I am going with this?

MaxInDHouse:
So whatever makes two sides opposing each other for sacred reasons both can't be worshiping the same God!

All these are subject to knowing and recognizing the identity of God.

The term "God" is just a construct🤨 and people have different views and perspectives of what "God" should be like🤔.

Even if you manage to overcome the hurdle and come into agreement over the identity of God, there are still other minor issues to resolve which often lead to doctrinal differences🧐.

Thus, your hypocrisy won't let you see that you commit the very same act🤔, you are at "war" 👀 with other christian sects; to put it plainly, you oppose a lot of orthodox beliefs 🤨 yet you claim to serve the same God🤔. This won't be a problem as you can also assert that your "God" is different from the orthodox "God" 🤤 but this also lands you in trouble by exposing the numerous errors, mistakes and misconceptions in your very Gb🤕.

Gabrielshow24:
You failed to take into consideration that when two sides are at war both always claim they are right.

Of course but does that makes both sides right when killing themselves for the same God?

Gabrielshow24:
All these are subject to knowing and recognizing the identity of God.

So how can you know or recognize which side has God's backing since both sides claim they are fighting for God?

Remember today you are claiming that you belong to Christ when Muslims are claiming they belong to Allah which from both sides means God to you people!

MaxInDHouse:
So whatever makes two sides opposing each other for sacred reasons both can't be worshiping the same God!



What did the Benjaminites do that led to the fight? Judges 19:25
Answer to the above question settle the case Sir!

🤨Do you think you have struck a gold mine? 🤣. The purpose of the question is to highlight that professed believers can go to war. This seems rather too simple as the Benjamites committed something exceptionally gross🤔 but what about other instances where the thing in 'dispute' is so minor that it's not clear who is right and who is wrong? 🤨

MaxInDHouse:
So how can you know or recognize which side has God's backing since both sides claim they are fighting for God?

Remember today you are claiming that you belong to Christ when Muslims are claiming they belong to Allah which from both sides means God to you people!

All in a shy bid not to limit the boundary to only people of the book 🤨, still it's your landmine😁.

Wheresoever you set the boundary, you will always run into similar problems. The "identity" of God being paramount followed by other numerous discourse to settle conclusively.

Gabrielshow24:
🤨Do you think you have struck a gold mine? 🤣. The purpose of the question is to highlight that professed believers can go to war. This seems rather too simple as the Benjamites committed something exceptionally gross🤔 but what about other instances where the thing in 'dispute' is so minor that it's not clear who is right and who is wrong? 🤨

If the Benjaminites kicked against what God commanded through Moses and that makes them wrong then any side that kicks against what God's only begotten son commanded is surely on the wrong!

Jesus told his disciples:

‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ Mark 12:31

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you" Luke 6:27

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another.  By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Finally he told them:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

From what God's only begotten Son said above anyone carrying weapons against his neighbour is on whose side, God's or Satan's?

MaxInDHouse:
Of course but does that makes both sides right when killing themselves for the same God?

From an absolute point of view both sides can't be right🤔 but from a superposed view one should outright outweigh the other morally! —this accounts for different scenarios.

Coming to this conclusion requires rigorous analysis of the crisis—Humanly speaking. By the way, you haven't answered the questions posed to you🤨. is this fear I sense from the great elder? 🥲 I will like to see you wiggle your way out of this one. If you want to be absolute then GOD becomes a law breaker🥲 because He sanctioned and went to war🤧...Several times!!! Perhaps you have gotten the fact that war can be used as a form of judgement 😁

MaxInDHouse:
If the Benjaminites kicked against what God commanded through Moses and that makes them wrong then any side that kicks against what God's only begotten son commanded is surely on the wrong!

Jesus told his disciples:

‘You must love your neighbor as yourself.’ Mark 12:31

“But I say to you who are listening: Continue to love your enemies, to do good to those hating you" Luke 6:27

"I am giving you a new commandment, that you love one another; just as I have loved you, you also love one another.  By this all will know that you are my disciples—if you have love among yourselves.” John 13:34-35

Finally he told them:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52

From what God's only begotten Son said above anyone carrying weapons against his neighbour is on whose side, God's or Satan's?

Fantastic sentiments 🤔 but even the Son went to war🤕. How's that for an advise? 🤨

Gabrielshow24:
From an absolute point of view both sides can't be right.

Don't you think this is the reason why Jesus said:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword." Matthew 26:52

So you tell me? Did Jesus kick against his own words? 🤨 Does that not make him an hypocrite? 🤔 I suppose he didn't turn the other cheek to Satan🤔! What a Son.


Let all men be liars and God be True 👀!

MaxInDHouse:
Don't you think this is the reason why Jesus said:

“Return your sword to its place, for all those who take up the sword will perish by the sword." Matthew 26:52

Maybe you don't know the definition of absolute 🤨, it's all binding👀—God included!

Gabrielshow24:
Fantastic sentiments 🤔 but even the Son went to war🤕. How's that for an advise? 🤨

Flesh or Spirit?

This is what God's word says:


For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. ‭Ephesians 6:12 NIV‬


So is the war to be handled by God's only begotten Son who ordered his own disciples to hold their peace {Exodus 14:14} or by those who supposed to take orders from God's Son? Matthew 17:5

Gabrielshow24:
Maybe you don't know the definition of absolute 🤨, it's all binding👀—God included!

OK you believe God shouldn't act on your behalf when His orders to you are to hold your peace?

MaxInDHouse:
Flesh or Spirit?

This is what God's word says:


For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms. ‭Ephesians 6:12 NIV‬


So is the war to be handled by God's only begotten Son who ordered his own disciples to hold their peace {Exodus 14:14} or by those who supposed to take orders from God's Son? Matthew 17:5

In conclusion, you accept God fights. What a satisfaction,🤤 We have a Warring God!

Hope you can reason out the slippery slope this leads to🥲, also you are currently "fighting"👀. There goes your peace 😁!

Gabrielshow24:
So you tell me? Did Jesus kick against his own words? 🤨 Does that not make him an hypocrite? 🤔 I suppose he didn't turn the other cheek to Satan🤔! What a Son.
Let all men be liars and God be True 👀!

Jesus is the king who gave orders to his subjects so when he said we should not take up swords he is ready to fight in our behalf! Exodus 14:14

MaxInDHouse:
Jesus is the king who gave orders to his subjects so when he said we should not take up swords he is ready to fight in our behalf! Exodus 14:14

like I quoted earlier, God is not an hypocrite! He won't order you not to fight on earth and the next moment in Heaven he goes to war with 'who should not be named' and bundles him out of heaven🤨.

Thus, for it to be good for God then it's permissible for man🤨 else God will be an hypocrite. Definitely not my God👀, it will be your jelly bean god!

Gabrielshow24:
In conclusion, you accept God fights. What a satisfaction,🤤 We have a Warring God!

So when law enforcement agents catches two adults fighting publicly which is against the order from the government the same government has no right to act in behalf of someone who obeyed their order by reporting instead of putting laws into his own hands? Job 5:13

As long as the 'hypocrisy' argument exists you have no case🧐 'cause then it will require you to make special pleading which negates the absolute nature of your sentiments 🙃.

MaxInDHouse:
So when law enforcement agents catches two adults fighting publicly which is against the order from the government the same government has no right to act in behalf of someone who obeyed their order by reporting instead of putting laws into his own hands? Job 5:13

This is horrible🧐 what sort of analogy is this 🤨, it doesn't address the subject matter at all! The aim of the "law" is to determine who is right! Simple as that!
Thus it's not the two adults that declare who is right but the law that determines who is right! They can only present their case🤨.

Which still result to a similar concept but parties dispute for who is right whether the verdict is given by God immediately or not, it's that ultimately determines who is right. It doesn't mean we can't logically seek for an optimal judgement but it can't be compared to God's! Capisce

Gabrielshow24:
like I quoted earlier, God is not an hypocrite! He won't order you not to fight on earth and the next moment in Heaven he goes to war with 'who should not be named' and bundles him out of heaven🤨.
Thus, for it to be good for God then it's permissible for man🤨 else God will be an hypocrite. Definitely not my God👀, it will be your jelly bean god!

Please when God ordered the Israelites not to fight:


The Lord will fight for you; you need only to be still.” ‭Exodus 14:14 NIV‬


Was God an hypocrite for fighting against their enemies?


He jammed the wheels of their chariots so that they had difficulty driving. And the Egyptians said, “Let’s get away from the Israelites! The Lord is fighting for them against Egypt.”
‭Exodus 14:25 NIV‬