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Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:38am On May 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
This is horrible🧐 what sort of analogy is this 🤨, it doesn't address the subject matter at all! The aim of the "law" is to determine who is right! Simple as that!
Thus it's not the two adults that declare who is right but the law that determines who is right! They can only present their case🤨.
You don't get it.

When two adults are fighting publicly both should be arrested for constituting nuisance in the community but what if a complainant reported to the authorities which of the two do you think is orderly?

Is it the two fighting to justify their course or the one who reported? smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 9:39am On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Please when God ordered the Israelites not to fight:


The Lord will fight for you; you need only to be still.” ‭Exodus 14:14 NIV‬


Was God an hypocrite for fighting against their enemies?

He kept taking wheels off their chariots so that they were driving them with difficulty, and the Egyptians were saying: “Let us flee from any contact with Israel, because Jehovah is fighting for them against the Egyptians. Exodus 14:25 smiley
Yet they went to war with most of their enemies 🤨! Are you sure you are an elder?

Will God come down and fight your battles,🤔 like you said earlier, in a different thread, "God will use physical processes 🙃 hence no miracle👀"! —paraphrased a little bit 🤧.

Now I say to you, "Heaven helps those who help themselves" ©️ 2025 Gabrielshow😁.

Thus God can help you when you are not fighting and he can also help you when you are fighting 👀. What then is the fuss all about?
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:42am On May 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
Yet they went to war with most of their enemies!
Please answer the question.

Was God an hypocrite for issuing such an order only to turn back against it the same day? smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24:
MaxInDHouse:
You don't get it.

When two adults are fighting publicly both should be arrested for constituting nuisance in the community but what if a complainant reported to the authorities which of the two do you think is orderly?

Is it the two fighting to justify their course or the one who reported? smiley
The complainant report doesn't "internally" affect their dispute, it only brings the face of the Law which then addresses it in all its forms! — Internally, externally, spiritually😁 if need be. By the way, the Law am referring to here is God👀.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 9:44am On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Please answer the question.

Was God an hypocrite for issuing such an order only to turn back against it the same day? smiley
Uno Reverso 🤣🤣🤣—When you can't answer the question, rephrase it then ask your opponent 😂😂😂.
Nothing wey Adamu no go see for gate. Kindly tell us why your own god decided to circumvent his own words in character? 🤨 Is that not the definition of an hypocrite 😂?

You've now added Hypocrisy to the growing list of ailments plaguing your jelly bean 🤕 god. From incompetence to foolishness, and now Hypocrisy 🤔—perhaps I should pen a book titled 'The Maladies of Jehovah's Witnesses' God,' with a cheeky subtitle: 'Not to be Confused with the Real Jehovah' 👀.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:45am On May 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
The complainant reporting doesn't "internally" affect their dispute, it only brings the face of the Law which then addresses it in all its forms! — Internally, externally, spiritually😁 if need be. By the way, the Law am referring to here is God👀.
What exactly did Jesus (God's only begotten Son) say when it comes to the case of our enemies? Luke 6:27 smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 9:48am On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
What exactly did Jesus (God's only begotten Son) say when it comes to the case of our enemies? Luke 6:27 smiley
I am quite used to all these your elusions 😂, it's not new! All can see the myriad of questions you purposely evaded, all in a bid to keep this narrative.

The character of Jesus will flaw your absolutism/absolute approach because the Person that gave you the Law, Word, in the first place went to War in Heaven. How's that for the Prince of Peace 😁?
Once again, Let all men be liars and God be True!
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op):
Gabrielshow24:
Uno Reverso 🤣🤣🤣—When you can't answer the question, rephrase it then ask your opponent 😂😂😂.
Nothing wey Adamu no go see for gate. Kindly tell us why your own god decided to circumvent his own words in character? 🤨
But you said my God is an hypocrite for issuing an order to His worshipers but later turned against His own orders?

Well i know you have nothing tangible to say.

God's orders comes out of the mouth of His representative so at that time Moses who was God's representative was God's mouthpiece before the Israelites and the order that moment is to hold their peace.
Today God's only mouthpiece is Christ Jesus {Hebrews 1:1-2} so whoever turned against the order given by Christ Jesus is not a worshiper of the true God who said:


“This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” ‭Matthew 17:5 NIV‬ smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 9:55am On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
But you said my God is an hypocrite for issuing an order to His worshipers but later turned against His own orders?

Well i know you have nothing tangible to say.

God's orders comes out of the mouth of His representative so at that time Moses who was God's representative was God's mouthpiece before the Israelites and the order that moment is to hold their peace.
Today God's only mouthpiece is Christ Jesus {Hebrews 1:1-2} so whoever turned against the order given by Christ Jesus is not a worship of the true God who said:


“This is my Son, whom I love; with him I am well pleased. Listen to him!” ‭Matthew 17:5 NIV‬ smiley
This is a rather sheepish misrepresentation of scripture. Sure, the Israelites held their peace—mostly after waging wars! 🤔 God granted them peace, but it seems they had to earn it through battle! 😂😂😂.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 9:58am On May 08, 2025
My core questions remain unanswered 😒, and yet your list of unresolved queries continues to grow 🤔. At this rate, it might one day outnumber the dictionary itself! 😁
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:16am On May 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
This is a rather sheepish misrepresentation of scripture. Sure, the Israelites held their peace—mostly after waging wars! 🤔 God granted them peace, but it seems they had to earn it through battle! 😂😂😂.
The truth is believing (trusting) the authority!

The law says we should allow them to set matters straight by reporting instead of taking laws into our own hands so if anyone fights publicly such a person is kicking against the order from the government it would be taken as rebellion since you know there is a sitting government.
The same applies to God's Kingdom where God's Son rules among his own disciples so if others aren't obedient to his orders they will be punished but then it will be more severe for anyone who knew what God's Son said yet kicked against it because that means you don't believe (trust) his judgement as you feel it'll take too long before he act.
Thanks for your time! smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 10:43am On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The truth is believing (trusting) the authority!

The law says we should allow them to set matters straight by reporting instead of taking laws into our own hands so if anyone fights publicly such a person is kicking against the order from the government it would be taken as rebellion since you know there is a sitting government.
The same applies to God's Kingdom where God's Son rules among his own disciples so if others aren't obedient to his orders they will be punished but then it will be more severe for anyone who knew what God's Son said yet kicked against it because that means you don't believe (trust) his judgement as you feel it'll take too long before he act.
Thanks for your time! smiley
😂 What a rhetorical feat! Phew! 🤧 You must have exhausted all your brain cells to come up with that, yet it still falls short of addressing the fundamental questions.

Your analogy permits the law to establish order, the self-same law also validates self-defense🤔. This is definitely not looking good for you👀, you just rendered your absolute statements null and void and reinstated permissibility. All is permissible but we choose to follow a certain "directive". Which makes it subjective 😂😂😂

If you like disarm those six fighters 👀 😂 it's your choice but you will do so well to lay down your life😁!

So if it's subjective all along why then have you fashioned it into an objective tool🤕? Also the subject matter isn't about trust👀, which appeals to sentiments 🙃 and it's rather pathetic👀.

I am more concerned about the coherence of your posits 🥲. So far, so good, they fail miserably. In all you established two things:
1. Your jelly bean god is an hypocrite 😂
2. Your posits are more subjective 😂, it's also not bad if you defend your life but it's more pleasing if you lay it down —not to Jehovah of Chicago 👀 by the way.

Also, you haven't negated circumstances that led believers to war within themselves. Hence, you have only shown your jagged convoluted decision tree🤔—which by the way just traverses from topic to topic without proving anything, infact you ended being incoherent in all your premises. 🥲
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:48am On May 08, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂 What a rhetorical feat! Phew! 🤧 You must have exhausted all your brain cells to come up with that, yet it still falls short of addressing the fundamental questions.

Your analogy permits the law to establish order, the self-same law also validates self-defense🤔. This is definitely not looking good for you👀, you just rendered your absolute statements null and void and reinstated permissibility. All is permissible but we choose to follow a certain "directive". Which makes it subjective 😂😂😂

If you like disarm those six fighters 👀 😂 it's your choice but you will do so well to lay down your life😁!

So if it's subjective all along why then have you fashioned it into an objective tool🤕? Also the subject matter isn't about trust👀, which appeals to sentiments 🙃 and it's rather pathetic👀.

I am more concerned about the coherence of your posits 🥲. So far, so good, they fail miserably. In all you established two things:
1. Your jelly bean god is an hypocrite 😂
2. Your posits are more subjective 😂, it's also not bad if you defend your life but it's more pleasing if you lay it down —not to Jehovah of Chicago 👀 by the way.

Also, you haven't negated circumstances that led believers to war within themselves. Hence, you have only shown your jagged convoluted decision tree🤔—which by the way just traverses from topic to topic without proving anything, infact you ended being incoherent in all your premises. 🥲
Mr Gabriel thanks for your time Sir! smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 10:53am On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Mr Gabriel thanks for your time Sir! smiley
The pleasure is all mine😁🤤
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Sand2022: 2:53pm On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
You read but got lost due to mischief you concentrated on letters not minding what the spirit of God in doing:

Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. 2Corinthians 3:6

War is a sign of disunity and God is not for confusion but peace! 1Corinthans 14:33

So whatever makes war erupt it means a party is not doing God's will both can't be doing God's will yet fighting against themselves that is impossible read what Jesus said and think about it:

“Every kingdom divided against itself comes to ruin, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand." Matthew 12:25

Both sides can't be fighting for God and at the same time killing themselves nah.

Haba! Are you saying Satan succeeded in turning God's own camp against themselves?
Abeg what will the angels be doing at that particular time?smiley
Wrong answer. Your last chance.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Sand2022: 2:56pm On May 08, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
And i've been fully prepared for this very moment that's why i keep telling you not to tag me again in your thread because you refused to face me directly.

So if truly you want this then start a new thread for just the two of us preferred title:

"Are Jehovah's Witnesses Right Claiming Only One Group Belongs To Christ?"

You already know my stand that there can't be two groups claiming Christians yet contradicting themselves in teachings so if you are sure of yourself come out plainly just you and i let others give their likes and shares for whoever is hitting the point! smiley
Another wrong answer. Last chance.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op):
Sand2022:
Wrong answer. Your last chance.
Sand2022:
Another wrong answer. Last chance.
Who cares what you think?
Ọmọ there can never be enemies dividing God's camp so it's either you are for or against God in or out! wink
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 2:02pm On May 09, 2025
How possible is it for a sane person to be practicing a false religion when he is aware that the religion is false? smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 5:44pm On May 10, 2025
Learn to type without using abusive speeches to avoid being banned! undecided
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Gabrielshow24: 7:17pm On May 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Learn to type without using abusive speeches to avoid being banned! undecided
😂😂😂The bot is your saving grace🤧.Still, it's easier for apes to evolve than for you to say the Truth 👀. If the bot like make it ban me👀,it won't change that fact 😁!
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:13pm On May 10, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
😂😂😂The bot is your saving grace🤧.Still, it's easier for apes to evolve than for you to say the Truth 👀. If the bot like make it ban me👀,it won't change that fact 😁!
It's OK.
If you and i don't share same beliefs let's respect each other move on! smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by GuruFex: 9:07pm On May 10, 2025
All forms of organised religion in our modern world serve a few purposes, of which the major are CONTROL and the reprogramming of the human mind to not realise his innate power.

All souls inhabiting a physical body(humans) are all trapped in the lowest of all dimensions - there are multitude of dimensions aside this physical plane.

The true liberation of a soul can never be attained by any organised religion - they are created, organised, and heavily marketed to serve different purposes, some of them I already mentioned earlier.

To understand what life and the nature of this material world is all about, you must unlearn all you ever know and open up your mind far beyond the limitations of religion.

Peace and Love.
GuruFex.
https://gurufex.com/
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 9:13pm On May 10, 2025
GuruFex:
All forms of organised religion in our modern world serve a few purposes, of which the major are CONTROL and the reprogramming of the human mind to not realise his innate power.

All souls inhabiting a physical body (humans) are all trapped in the lowest of all dimensions - there are multitude of dimensions aside this physical plane.

The true liberation of a soul can never be attained by any organised religion - they are created, organised, and heavily marketed to serve different purposes, some of them I already mentioned earlier.

To understand what life and the nature of this material world is all about, you must unlearn all you ever know and open up your mind far beyond the limitations of religion.

Peace and Love.
GuruFex.
https://gurufex.com/
Souls are creatures!
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by GuruFex: 9:58pm On May 10, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Souls are creatures!
No! The soul is energy. It is a divine spark. It is your true essence. It a part of you that is pure, unlike your physical body. The soul is the pure little angle(metaphorically) that got trapped in a physical body in this materialistic plane of existence.

Unsurprisingly to me, many religious folks do not understand what the soul, which is their real self, is. This lack of spiritual knowledge is not accidental, but deliberate. This ignorance is what organised religion and its masterminds are meant to perpetuate for Control.

Peace and Love.
GuruFex.
https://gurufex.com/
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 10:16pm On May 10, 2025
GuruFex:
No! The soul is energy. It is a divine spark. It is your true essence. It a part of you that is pure, unlike your physical body. The soul is the pure little angle(metaphorically) that got trapped in a physical body in this materialistic plane of existence. Unsurprisingly to me, many religious folks do not understand what the soul, which is their real self, is. This lack of spiritual knowledge is not accidental, but deliberate. This ignorance is what organised religion and its masterminds are meant to perpetuate for Control.
Peace and Love.
GuruFex.
https://gurufex.com/
Ọmọ soul simply means creature with a unique name or having a owner who knows it's unique features to differentiate from others of its kind.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Sand2022: 11:38am On May 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Who cares what you think?
Ọmọ there can never be enemies dividing God's camp so it's either you are for or against God in or out! wink
I care about what the bible says.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by orisa37: 11:53am On May 11, 2025
THEY'RE THE REAL BOKOHARAMS OF THE UNIVERSE.

AND THE ISIS OF AMERICA.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 1:12pm On May 11, 2025
Sand2022:
I care about what the bible says.
Bible says:

“You must not murder." Exodus 20:13

Killing only comes to mind when God declares the judgement but against our fellow worshipers Jehovah's Witnesses has never done that because it's MURDER from the standpoint of our God.
So if your own people are fighting and killing their fellow worshipers know that they are not worshipers of our God! smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by Sand2022: 6:48pm On May 11, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Bible says:

“You must not murder." Exodus 20:13

Killing only comes to mind when God declares the judgement but against our fellow worshipers Jehovah's Witnesses has never done that because it's MURDER from the standpoint of our God.
So if your own people are fighting and killing their fellow worshipers know that they are not worshipers of our God! smiley
That commandment was there even when David army fought with Absalom. And when Jepthar fought with his brothers.
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by MaxInDHouse(op): 8:09pm On May 11, 2025
Sand2022:
That commandment was there even when David army fought with Absalom. And when Jepthar fought with his brothers.
Absalom is no longer a worshiper of God by the time he decided to kill Jehovah's anointed King so God's servants serving the same Jehovah never raise weapons against themselves it has always been an enemy of God's will who has been won over by Satan that will lift a weapon against God's organization! smiley
Re: JW 030 Can Sane Humans Remain In A Religion Knowing Its False? by achorladey: 9:43pm On May 11, 2025
Sand2022:
That commandment was there even when David army fought with Absalom. And when Jepthar fought with his brothers.
Looooool, it was there when David was busy killing Uriah grin cheesy cheesy
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