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If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Jamestaiwo(op): 1:12am On May 09, 2025
If Jesus is God, why did He say 'pray our father?


Have you ever wondered, "If Jesus is truly God, why did He say we should pray, 'Our Father'?" 🤔

In this video, we explore the deeper meaning behind Jesus' words in the Lord's Prayer and how they reveal His role, relationship with the Father, and what it means for us as believers today.

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Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 1:55am On May 09, 2025
Debating something that's long settled. Debate it by yourself.
Jesus is God but not the Father. Simple
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Ruke1991: 2:04am On May 09, 2025
Why do your wife ask you for money when she is not your child but an adult and partner not servant in your marriage relationship? It's all about submitting to your office as head of the family, it doesn't mean she can't bypass you to spend her money. but she shows her loyalty and commitment to you by letting you decide for the family how financial resources are spent, she lets you have the lead in everything just because you are head of family. That's what we call submission. As a stubborn human being that most of you are that refuses to honor or submit to another human just because you have small money or can speak small English, you cannot understand the concept of trinity. Except you have an ideal godly family or an ideal Christian church where submission and rmutual respect exists between the head and other partners, you can never understand trinity
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by RepoMan007: 2:43am On May 09, 2025
Why did the bible call Jesus God's only begotten son?
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:30am On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
Debating something that's long settled. Debate it by yourself.
Jesus is God but not the Father. Simple
Where most people don't notice is the past tense used in the Bible:


John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ‭NIV‬


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. KJV


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. NWT


None said "the word is God" rather they all said the word WAS God.

WHY?

Because Jesus is the prophet who came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} and Moses WAS a God! Exodus 7:1
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34am On May 09, 2025
RepoMan007:
Why did the bible call Jesus God's only begotten son?
Because Jesus is the only creature that God created alone {Proverbs 8:22} while all other creatures were made when Jesus was with God in the beginning! Proverbs 8:30 compare to Colossians 1:15
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Thankgod89: 8:41am On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Where most people don't notice is the past tense used in the Bible:


John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ‭NIV‬


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. KJV


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. NWT


None said "the word is God" rather they all said the word WAS God.

WHY?

Because Jesus is the prophet who came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} and Moses WAS a God! Exodus 7:1
MaxInDHouse, greetings to you.

Calling Jesus a prophet is reductive and insufficient. While He displayed prophetic traits, such a label does not capture the fullness of His identity.

The verse you cited—Deuteronomy 18:18—doesn't directly refer to Jesus in the way some assume:

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth...”

This passage initially referred to a line of prophets like Moses. But Moses wasn’t “God over Israel”—he acted as God’s representative, particularly in confrontation with Pharaoh( was made “like God” to Pharaoh, ). So if Moses wasn't divine, how much more distinct is Jesus, who didn't merely speak for God but spoke as God?

Jesus didn’t just act like a prophet—He transcended that role entirely.

Prophets were servants in God’s house (Hebrews 3:5).
Jesus is the Son over the house (Hebrews 3:6).

Prophets spoke on behalf of God.
Jesus spoke as God (John 1:1, 14; John 14:9).

Prophets pointed forward to the coming salvation.
Jesus is the fulfillment of what they foretold (Luke 24:27; Revelation 19:10).


So if Jesus (The WORD) was God and not God as you claim —over whom is He God, and for how long?
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:12am On May 09, 2025
Thankgod89:
MaxInDHouse, greetings to you.

Calling Jesus a prophet is reductive and insufficient. While He displayed prophetic traits, such a label does not capture the fullness of His identity.
Peter called Jesus a prophet. Act 3:20, 22, 26
So it's what is written in the Bible that i'm saying! Deuteronomy 18:18


Thankgod89:
So if Jesus (The WORD) was God and not God as you claim —over whom is He God, and for how long?
A God is someone who had authority.

So Moses and Jesus were given authority for a period of time that's the same thing that qualified to be called Gods. Psalms 82:1, 6
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Thankgod89: 9:48am On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Peter called Jesus a prophet. Act 3:20, 22, 26
So it's what is written in the Bible that i'm saying! Deuteronomy 18:18



A God is someone who had authority.

So Moses and Jesus were given authority for a period of time that's the same thing that qualified to be called Gods. Psalms 82:1, 6
Peter quotes Deuteronomy 18:18 (via verse 22), calling Jesus "that prophet" Moses spoke of. But he is not limiting Jesus to being a mere prophet. Instead, he is showing that Jesus is:

The fulfillment of what Moses prophesied,

The one Israel was commanded to listen to,

And the one whom rejecting would bring judgment (v. 23).

Then in verse 26:

Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Here, Peter no longer uses the word “prophet” but speaks of Jesus as God’s Son and the risen one who brings blessing and salvation—not just prophecy.

Most people called Him what they could comprehend—a prophet, teacher, healer. But Jesus’ true identity was revealed by the Father, testified by the Spirit, and unfolded in His resurrection and ascension.

Don't forget Peter spoke to the people of Israel in a way they could understand, using language and references familiar to them. However, it's important to remember that Peter already had a divine revelation of who Jesus truly is. As recorded in Matthew 16:13–17, when Jesus asked, “Who do you say that I am?”, Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus affirmed this by saying that it was not human insight, but the Father in heaven who revealed this truth to Peter.


The statement "A God is someone who had authority" does not fully capture the biblical understanding of God's nature.

God is not simply defined by possessing authority; rather, He is the ultimate source of all authority (John 1:3). In Scripture, God is portrayed as the Creator, the Sovereign, and the Supreme Being, whose authority is intrinsic, unlimited, and not something He merely "has."

Furthermore, your comparison of Moses to Christ, in relation to authority, is not accurate. While Moses was a faithful servant of God, Jesus, as the Son of God, is the full revelation of God Himself—far surpassing Moses in authority and nature.
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:33am On May 09, 2025
Thankgod89:
Peter quotes Deuteronomy 18:18 (via verse 22), calling Jesus "that prophet" Moses spoke of. But he is not limiting Jesus to being a mere prophet. Instead, he is showing that Jesus is:

The fulfillment of what Moses prophesied,

The one Israel was commanded to listen to,

And the one whom rejecting would bring judgment (v. 23).

Then in verse 26:

Acts 3:26 - Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Here, Peter no longer uses the word “prophet” but speaks of Jesus as God’s Son and the risen one who brings blessing and salvation—not just prophecy.

Most people called Him what they could comprehend—a prophet, teacher, healer. But Jesus’ true identity was revealed by the Father, testified by the Spirit, and unfolded in His resurrection and ascension.

Don't forget Peter spoke to the people of Israel in a way they could understand, using language and references familiar to them. However, it's important to remember that Peter already had a divine revelation of who Jesus truly is. As recorded in Matthew 16:13–17, when Jesus asked, “Who do you say that I am?”, Peter answered, “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Jesus affirmed this by saying that it was not human insight, but the Father in heaven who revealed this truth to Peter.


The statement "A God is someone who had authority" does not fully capture the biblical understanding of God's nature.

God is not simply defined by possessing authority; rather, He is the ultimate source of all authority (John 1:3). In Scripture, God is portrayed as the Creator, the Sovereign, and the Supreme Being, whose authority is intrinsic, unlimited, and not something He merely "has."

Furthermore, your comparison of Moses to Christ, in relation to authority, is not accurate. While Moses was a faithful servant of God, Jesus, as the Son of God, is the full revelation of God Himself—far surpassing Moses in authority and nature.
If you feel Peter an apostle of Christ Jesus is wrong who am i?
Abeg there's no need arguing that's what the scriptures say!
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Thankgod89: 10:43am On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
If you feel Peter an apostle of Christ Jesus is wrong who am i?
Abeg there's no need arguing that's what the scriptures say!
Laughing.....no wahala baba.

But just know that I don’t believe Peter was wrong at all—he spoke by revelation and with authority as an apostle of Christ. In fact, I’m aligning with what he understood by revelation from the Father in Matthew 16:16—that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

When Peter referred to Jesus as the “Prophet like unto Moses” in Acts 3, he wasn’t reducing Him to just a prophet. He was connecting the dots for Israel, using what they knew to reveal who Jesus truly is—the promised Messiah and far more than a prophet.

So, I'm not arguing with Peter; I'm reading all he said in full context. Scripture doesn’t contradict itself, it builds a complete picture when rightly divided.
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:56am On May 09, 2025
Thankgod89:
Laughing.....no wahala baba.

But just know that I don’t believe Peter was wrong at all—he spoke by revelation and with authority as an apostle of Christ. In fact, I’m aligning with what he understood by revelation from the Father in Matthew 16:16—that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of the living God.

When Peter referred to Jesus as the “Prophet like unto Moses” in Acts 3, he wasn’t reducing Him to just a prophet. He was connecting the dots for Israel, using what they knew to reveal who Jesus truly is—the promised Messiah and far more than a prophet.

So, I'm not arguing with Peter; I'm reading all he said in full context. Scripture doesn’t contradict itself, it builds a complete picture when rightly divided.
It's OK no need arguing if you agree that Peter called Jesus the promised PROPHET who will come in the manner of Moses! smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:01am On May 09, 2025
If we are to stick to what the scriptures say Jesus is a prophet of God.
The difference is simple: his life didn't start from Adamic descendants because he lived in heaven before God transformed his life from the spirit realms into the womb of Mary as an embryo.
So unlike all other prophets whose life journey started here Jesus has been with God in the spirit realms before becoming a human here on earth.

But as a prophet he also served as one of God's messengers and like Moses who happens to be both prophet and God Jesus played both roles too.
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 11:03am On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Where most people don't notice is the past tense used in the Bible:


John 1:1

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. ‭NIV‬


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. KJV


In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god. NWT


None said "the word is God" rather they all said the word WAS God.

WHY?

Because Jesus is the prophet who came in the manner of Moses {Deuteronomy 18:18} and Moses WAS a God! Exodus 7:1
And what most people don't notice is the present tense used by Jesus HIMSELF: "Before Abraham I AM"
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:06am On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
And what most people don't notice is the present tense used by Jesus HIMSELF: "Before Abraham I AM"
Yes! Before Abraham Jesus existed.
That's what he meant!
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 11:49am On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Yes! Before Abraham Jesus existed.
That's what he meant!
Suddenly you no longer pay attention to tense used. HE SAID "I AM" NOT "I WAS"!!! Same "I am" God told Moses was His name. Same great "I Am"!
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:14pm On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
Suddenly you no longer pay attention to tense used. HE SAID "I AM" NOT "I WAS"!!! Same "I am" God told Moses was His name. Same great "I Am"!
Naaaaaaaaah, the translator used that in other translations it's rendered differently.
For instance:

“Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” John 8:58
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 2:49pm On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah, the translator used that in other translations it's rendered differently.
For instance:

“Most truly I say to you, before Abraham came into existence, I have been.” John 8:58
Naaaaaaaaah, you cleverly stopped at verse 58. Continue on to 59: "At this, they picked up stones to stone him..." - because claim to the divine name "I AM" (Exodus 3:14) was considered blasphemous under Jewish law, which prescribed stoning as a punishment for blasphemy.
They were right there and heard directly from Jesus while your translators came centuries later. Who are we to believe?

Besides, you said Jesus was like Moses. Was Moses also around before Abraham?😆
Also, they severally tried to stone Jesus for claiming divinity. Did anybody ever tried to stone Moses for claiming to be God?
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:16pm On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
Naaaaaaaaah, you cleverly stopped at verse 58. Continue on to 59: "At this, they picked up stones to stone him..." - because claim to the divine name "I AM" (Exodus 3:14) was considered blasphemous under Jewish law, which prescribed stoning as a punishment for blasphemy.
They were right there and heard directly from Jesus while your translators came centuries later. Who are we to believe?

Besides, you said Jesus was like Moses. Was Moses also around before Abraham?😆
Also, they severally tried to stone Jesus for claiming divinity. Did anybody ever tried to stone Moses for claiming to be God?
The Jews wanted to kill him for claiming he is from heaven nowhere did Jesus called himself God, all himself and his disciples were saying is SON OF GOD!
Matthew 16:16
But if you have anywhere that Jesus or his disciples called him God let me have that verse! smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 6:58pm On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
The Jews wanted to kill him for claiming he is from heaven nowhere did Jesus called himself God, all himself and his disciples were saying is SON OF GOD!
Matthew 16:16
But if you have anywhere that Jesus or his disciples called him God let me have that verse! smiley
You must feel really ridiculous writing this. "For claiming he's from heaven"!😆 Where in Jewish law does it say people are to be stoned to death for claiming they're from heaven? Why wasn't John the Baptist stoned to death? Many, many "messiahs" came. Why weren't they stoned to death?

You are here, thousands of years later, relying on SOME words He said (that have gone through countless translations and transliterations), yet you know better than people who heard countless of words from him, heard Him directly, and saw His facial expressions and movements while speaking. Wehdone
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:04pm On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
You must feel really ridiculous writing this. "For claiming he's from heaven"!😆 Where in Jewish law does it say people are to be stoned to death for claiming they're from heaven? Why wasn't John the Baptist stoned to death? Many, many "messiahs" came. Why weren't they stoned to death?

You are here, thousands of years later, relying on SOME words He said (that have gone through countless translations and transliterations), and you know better than people who heard countless of words from him, heard Him directly, and saw His facial expressions and movements while speaking. Wehdone
Nobody ever claimed to have existed before Abraham the grandfather of Jacob who is their forefather nah! smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Reekv: 7:13pm On May 09, 2025
My dear, Bible na story book for kids grin
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:16pm On May 09, 2025
Reekv:
My dear, Bible na story book for kids grin
Hmmmmmmm, OK! smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 7:17pm On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Nobody ever claimed to have existed before Abraham the grandfather of Jacob who is their forefather nah! smiley
So it's no more because of coming from heaven, it is now because of Abraham!😅
But they themselves said why they wanted to stone him to death in John 10 - "because you, being a man, make yourself God."
You still haven't answered the question: was Moses also around before Abraham?😆
In the whole history of the Jews who else claimed to be around before their forefathers, or claimed oneness with God?
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:20pm On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
So it's no more because of coming from heaven, it is now because of Abraham!😅
But they themselves said why they wanted to stone him to death in John 10 - "because you, being a man, make yourself God."
You still haven't answered the question: was Moses also around before Abraham?😆
In the whole history of the Jews who else claimed to be around before their forefathers, or claimed oneness with God?
They thought only God could say he has existed before Abraham nah.
But angels have existed even before Adam.
So whoever comes from heaven must be one of those living there either God or angel and in this case Jesus didn't claim he was an angel rather God's Son which makes him divine so to speak. smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 7:30pm On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
They thought only God could say he has existed before Abraham nah.
But angels have existed even before Adam.
So whoever comes from heaven must be one of those living there either God or angel and in this case Jesus didn't claim he was an angel rather God's Son which makes him divine so to speak. smiley
Thank you! You finally admit it - "which makes him divine"! So, clearly, he was not like Moses or anybody else. Nobody else was God's son or divine. Well done and God bless
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:34pm On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
Thank you! You finally admit it - "which makes him divine"! So, clearly, he was not like Moses or anybody else. Nobody else was God's son or divine. Well done and God bless
Ọmọ Jesus wasn't divine o it's those evil Jews who accused him falsely that are using different means to get him killed.

According to him his disciples have the same FATHER and GOD with him while he is their BROTHER. John 20:17

God never refer to anyone as "brother" o! smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 8:04pm On May 09, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ Jesus wasn't divine o it's those evil Jews who accused him falsely that are using different means to get him killed.

According to him his disciples have the same FATHER and GOD with him while he is their BROTHER. John 20:17

God never refer to anyone as "brother" o! smiley
You just said He was divine a second ago. Here are your own words: "God's Son which makes him divine".
Same scenario when you said why they stoned him, two seconds later you changed to Abraham!
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 9:45pm On May 09, 2025
QuinQ:
You just said He was divine a second ago. Here are your own words: "God's Son which makes him divine".
Same scenario when you said why they stoned him, two seconds later you changed to Abraham!
That's the ACCUSATION! smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Truthseeker10: 9:17am On May 10, 2025
QuinQ:
Debating something that's long settled. Debate it by yourself.
Jesus is God but not the Father. Simple
Do you agree with the diagram below?

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Truthseeker10: 9:18am On May 10, 2025
Ruke1991:
Why do your wife ask you for money when she is not your child but an adult and partner not servant in your marriage relationship? It's all about submitting to your office as head of the family, it doesn't mean she can't bypass you to spend her money. but she shows her loyalty and commitment to you by letting you decide for the family how financial resources are spent, she lets you have the lead in everything just because you are head of family. That's what we call submission. As a stubborn human being that most of you are that refuses to honor or submit to another human just because you have small money or can speak small English, you cannot understand the concept of trinity. Except you have an ideal godly family or an ideal Christian church where submission and rmutual respect exists between the head and other partners, you can never understand trinity
So the father is greater than Jesus?
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Truthseeker10: 9:21am On May 10, 2025
Thankgod89:
MaxInDHouse, greetings to you.

Calling Jesus a prophet is reductive and insufficient. While He displayed prophetic traits, such a label does not capture the fullness of His identity.

The verse you cited—Deuteronomy 18:18—doesn't directly refer to Jesus in the way some assume:

“I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth...”

This passage initially referred to a line of prophets like Moses. But Moses wasn’t “God over Israel”—he acted as God’s representative, particularly in confrontation with Pharaoh( was made “like God” to Pharaoh, ). So if Moses wasn't divine, how much more distinct is Jesus, who didn't merely speak for God but spoke as God?

Jesus didn’t just act like a prophet—He transcended that role entirely.

Prophets were servants in God’s house (Hebrews 3:5).
Jesus is the Son over the house (Hebrews 3:6).

Prophets spoke on behalf of God.
Jesus spoke as God (John 1:1, 14; John 14:9).

Prophets pointed forward to the coming salvation.
Jesus is the fulfillment of what they foretold (Luke 24:27; Revelation 19:10).


So if Jesus (The WORD) was God and not God as you claim —over whom is He God, and for how long?
If the Word was God Almighty, is he no longer God almighty?
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