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QuinQ:
You are the teacher. Have you forgotten?

MaxInDHouse:
Guy i know you have been taught several dogmas in your religion but now is the time to face reality as found in the Bible.

*Jesus is a servant of God according to the Bible because he was SENT by God. Act 3:26

*Jesus is the only begotten Son of God according to the Bible because he is the only creature God created alone. Proverbs 8:22-30, Colossians 1:15-16

*Jesus was God according to the Bible because he was given the privilege to act as God just like Moses was also given the same privilege. Exodus 7:1

So you need to unlearn and relearn to have the accurate knowledge of God's word that's not based on dogmas!

MaxInDHouse:
Naaaaaaaaah, if you agree that i am the teacher here you wouldn't be arguing after i've shown you from the scriptures in what different capacities Jesus served the Almighty God.

QuinQ:
He's SON, not servant!

QuinQ:
He is God same way your son has your nature but not you. He is divine but not the Father

QuinQ:
OK, I'll teach. So sit respectfully and learn:
Adding "almighty" to God does not change God

Emusan:
It's good as you acknowledge that it's the doctrine of an organization and not BIBLICAL DOCTRINE.



So, who is imposing "Jesus is God" on you?



And that's how millions believe that Jesus is God Almighty based on their own understanding of the scripture.

You can't even teach anything base on your own UNDERSTANDING, you only believe what your gods in Warwick made you to believe.

Stop that lie.

delkuf:
so this guy has finally agreed that Jesus is angel Micheal is the doctrine of there organization after years he has arguing about. For those he has misled he has admitted it. It is not a biblical doctrine but a doctrine of jw

MaxInDHouse:
It's not to be PREACHED rather to be TAUGHT to those who are willing to know the identity of our Master, Lord and King who has helped in organizing a global family of peace loving worshipers. Daniel 12:1-3

So i never preached it to anyone and i will never ever denied it if anyone ask me if it's the truth.

MaxInDHouse:
The God of Abraham and of Isaac and of Jacob, the God of our forefathers, has glorified his Servant, Jesus, whom you handed over and disowned before Pilate, even though he had decided to release him. Act 3:13

You are the one cherry picking because i never argued that Jesus is not God's Son but you are the one claiming he is not God's servant whereas it's boldly written in God's word!

QuinQ:
😅This is beyond cherry-picking, this is more like ridiculously looking for needle in haystack. David, Moses, etc constantly called themselves servants and are constantly called servants by others. No one ever addressed Jesus as servant. Instead He was confessed as Son of God and He said that was 100% correct!
Now, Ezekiel was also constantly called "Son of man". Someone like you will cherrypick that as proof he was same as Christ!

MaxInDHouse:
You've not answered the question:

Did Jesus lied when he said John is Elijah?

YES or NO?

Janosky:
Oga, why nau?
Pls use the screenshot evidence of the holy Scriptures (Acts 3:13. Acts 3:26. Acts 4:27 . Acts 4:30) to amend your viewpoints.
Jesus Christ admitted himself is a Servant, Matthew 12:15-18, he quoted from the prophet Isaiah.

delkuf:
so this guy has finally agreed that Jesus is angel Micheal is the doctrine of there organization after years he has arguing about.

For those he has misled he has admitted it. It is not a biblical doctrine but a doctrine of jw.

Trinitarians knew that Jesus Christ is archangel Michael many many centuries ago as far back as Martin Luther era of Protestant Reformation.
Baptist Clergyman Charles Spurgeon a firm believer in Jesus Christ archangel Michael doctrine said "study the word of God & put your faith in it" , including the teaching of Jesus is archangel Michael.


Oga, go and learn.
The evidence full ground well well.
Screenshots

delkuf:
so this guy has finally agreed that Jesus is angel Micheal is the doctrine of there organization after years he has arguing about.

For those he has misled he has admitted it. It is not a biblical doctrine but a doctrine of jw

Emusan:
But you can't provide screenshot evidence to support your claim that God and Angels have the same NATURE

Emusan:
That is it!
It's a doctrine that has no Biblical support.

Janosky:
God is a title of the Supreme Spirit Being who created the world.

Man & all angels (Jesus Christ & Satan) have God's nature because God created them all, Ephesians 3:14-15.

Pls Oga, allow your brain to function,I dey beg you.

QuinQ:
You keep reposting the same low IQ ramble. Do you think it's so impressive or what?

You’ve been taught that the Bible CANNOT be cherrypicked because you can isolate any quote from the Bible that'd be quite deceptive when viewed in isolation. If you also add possible errors from translation and manipulation it becomes clear why you can't cherrypick.
David and the prophets constantly refered to themselves as servants.
On the other hand, PAUL (not Christ or any other disciples) is TRANSLATED as referring to Jesus as servant once.
You ignore all the mountain of pronouncements by all and sundry including Jesus Himself that he was no servant but SON, and instead cling to that! Christ even gave a parable in Matthew 21:33–46, making clear He's SON, not servant!

Janosky:
Your opinion rejected by Martin Luther, Charles Spurgeon & other Trinitarians.

Emusan:
The challenge is to provide screenshot evidence that God and Angels have the same NATURE.

Why are you afraid of that?

QuinQ:
So educate us, is SON same as SERVANT?
Also see this below about Moses

Janosky:
Does Emusan have his Father's nature?

Angels have their Father's nature in heaven.

Oga, allow your brain to function.

QuinQ:
He is God same way your son has your nature but not you. He is divine but not the Father

Janosky:
A divine being is a god or godlike.
That is the actual meaning.
Jesus is a god !
Screenshot evidence.

Emusan:
Yes! I have and that makes me and my father to be human.



No! You're lying.

The Nature of God makes Him different from others.

One aspect of God's nature is "UNCREATED"

Are angels UNCREATED?



Reason why you can't provide just single screenshot as evidence since

Emusan:
I love this.

So is the Father divine or not?

MaxInDHouse:
Sorry, i hate arguing aimlessly when the scriptures has spoken! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

Emusan:
The person who is trying to equate Moses with Jesus already claimed that Jesus is the ONLY BEGOTTEN SON OF GOD which means Jesus is the ONLY ONE directly created by God Himself.

Then ask yourself how can Jesus whom Jehovah Himself created directly can have equal or be like Moses?

Then you'll know where the confusion is coming from.

MaxInDHouse:
Please can you quote where highlighted is found written in the Bible?
Thanks in advance!

QuinQ:
You believe Jesus existed before Adam (just like he told the Jews) and therefore came from heaven, and believing that, here's what you wrote:

"So whoever comes from heaven must be one of those living there either God or angel and in this case Jesus didn't claim he was an angel rather God's Son which makes him divine so to speak."

QuinQ:
But you believe Jesus said he was one with God, and that once you've seen him you've seen God. Who else has said anything close to that in Jewish history, and how far is that from saying he's same as God?

Gabrielshow24:
The 'sheepish narrative' they have cannot clearly define the concept "God" hence they have a problem with Jesus being God🤕. Which makes them conflate identity with nature🤔.

The narrative JW have is that Christ is an angel, noticeably Michael 🤔; now they run into problems very quickly! Without even using scriptures just basic logic they have problems reconciling the preeminence of Christ over the rest(angels). A certain elder from them decided to create the first set theory 👀(Primus conventus) which states that these 'archangels' were the first set of angels to interact with God👀, which also runs into another problem because it assumes that Angels were not made at the same time or they were made in batches😀—A lovely fallacious reconciliation with the scripture, ' all things were made by Jesus' yet this theory falls flat🤕, very flat, Indeed! Upon deeper analysis.

Also, the law of non-contradiction 😂 doesn't favor their narratives 🤧. The character of Jesus on earth conflicts greatly with the warlike dispositions of Michael 👀— which will warrant men to call Jesus an hypocrite for encouraging peace🤔 while he didn't 'turn the left cheek' in heaven👀.

This also squashes their absolute statement of "No true christian will take up arms". In all, it reduces their conclusion to a mere false Equivocation! You could also say, 'Why didn't they say Jesus is a winnowers fan because he was written coming with one?'😁 As a subtle reply to their 'coming with the voice of an Archangel' rhetoric🤧 and to finish it off, you can totally squash their allusions by using the extreme of their argument —seeing it is centred on 'Jesus being an angel'—to conclude that God, himself, is a messenger of himself😂 which they can never have a rebuttal for. Any response from them will be met with simple questions and they will be forced to either evade or avoid these questions, totally!

All in all without typing too much because of this despot of a bot😂. You get the gist.

Your opinion is unscriptural.
Oga, REMOVE Revelation 19:13-16 ,Matthew 25;31 &
1 Thessalonians 4:16 from your Bible nau.


When your fellow Trinitarians have written extensively on Joshua 5:13-14 that Jesus Christ is the angel Commanding the Army of Yahweh his Father.

Was Jesus making peace when he overturned the tables of traders in his Father's temple?

Your fellow Trinitarians in the screenshot don't buy into your narrative.
The same ghost deity taught them Jesus is archangel Michael.