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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:37pm On May 12, 2025
nateevs:
These things Trump says excite you because you lack sound knowledge of how the world works.

You see, the US understood before MAGATS that subsidising world health allows it to in turn attract the best brains in the world to the country under the H1B visa program. If US did not do this, there will be no world-class research in the US.

The research that Trump thinks the US "owns" is created by the inventiveness mostly of foreignerss and recipients of the H1B program.

Imagine you guys leading the US into future. You guys are clowns surely taking the US on a rapid decline with no help from outside. You have no idea of anything at all.
Why is your country not interested in leading the world and taking up the bulk of drug prices for the rest of the world
You have the equivalent of the H1B program in the UK, why is it not translating into world class research for you?
Are you okay with just being the yes men to America so that you can continue to leech on US tax payers?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 5:37pm On May 12, 2025
nateevs:
Sharap! You think you are talking to MAGATs. The US lost manufacturing jobs to China because of the institution and perpetuation of capitalism to the last letter, the desire and embracement of cheap consumer goods, and the fundamental desire for the dollar to become the world's reserve currency.

It is nobody else's fault. It is all your fault.
And funny enough this is something he supports.
That’s why I stopped arguing with him about it. Unbridled capitalism led to decline of US manufacturing.

How can you say you love greed because it fuels the economy & somehow blame the fact that wealthy manufacturers are moving labor abroad to get cheap labor on the opposing political party? No they’re leaving because how dare we tell them to treat their workers like humans? They will outsource labor to aliens in space if it means cheaper costs. And he will be right there cheering on the good old greed.

Labor can be performed in America. You just have pay the workers American wages which will eat into the manufacturers’ profits.
We don’t have universal healthcare. So the employer would have to provide healthcare.
They’d have to be given leave and sick time as needed.
What about maternity leave? We can’t have that because we didn’t force anyone to have babies (insert side eye)
What about safety regulations?

All of these are things he’s against because it “stifles manufacturing”. Yet in the same breath he wants manufacturing to be brought back to the US. How does one reconcile that thought process?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:37pm On May 12, 2025
zendi:
All thanks to past left wing and globalist American leaders who held her down while other countries raped her in trade and trusted her. What Trump is doing now should have been started by Bill Clinton
What's happening now is exactly what Ross Perot campaigned on. ....

"You’re going to hear a giant sucking sound as jobs move to Mexico."
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:38pm On May 12, 2025
LordAdam16:
Welcome home Edan!

-Lord
The left will probably get mad at why an American was released just the way they would not applaud an American released from Russia at the last state of the Union speech
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 5:41pm On May 12, 2025
cococandy:
And funny enough this is something he supports.
That’s why I stopped arguing with him about it. Unbridled capitalism led to decline of US manufacturing.

How can you say you love greed because it fuels the economy & somehow blame the fact that wealthy manufacturers are moving labor abroad to get cheap labor on the opposing political party? No they’re leaving because how dare we tell them to treat their workers like humans? They will outsource labor to aliens in space if it means cheaper costs. And he will be right there cheering on the good old greed.

Labor can be performed in America. You just have pay the workers American wages which will eat into the manufacturers’ profits.
We don’t have universal healthcare. So the employer would have to provide healthcare.
They’d have to be given leave and sick time as needed.
What about maternity leave? We can’t have that because we didn’t force anyone to have babies (insert side eye)
What about safety regulations?

All of these are things he’s against because it “stifles manufacturing”. Yet in the same breath he wants manufacturing to be brought back to the US. How does one reconcile that thought process?
A business man has only profit as his end goal, and he is not mandated to care about the country just his own pocket

Its the work of leaders who should do what benefit the people and we have had leaders for the past 40yrs who looked away while the manufacturing base got eroded

You are suddenly okay with manufacturing practices of China and kick when trump wants to bring these manufacturing to US?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by LordAdam16: 5:43pm On May 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
The left will probably get mad at why an American was released just the way they would not applaud an American released from Russia at the last state of the Union speech
I'll settle for a federal judge not ordering the administration return Edan to Hamas.

-Lord
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:57pm On May 12, 2025
Antifa guidelines on how to destroy infrastructure.

.....The article containing a detailed guide also includes a disclaimer advising against printing the directions. It states, “We’ve chosen not to make this text available as a PDF because we believe that if an arson guide is distributed in printed form, some people will inevitably keep it in their homes or in movement spaces, which the police would be happy to find during a repressive operation. In addition, a printed guide collects forensic traces from anyone who has interacted with it, so if the police recover a copy, they can, with some work, determine who has read it.”

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 6:27pm On May 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
A business man has only profit as his end goal, and he is not mandated to care about the country just his own pocket

Its the work of leaders who should do what benefit the people and we have had leaders for the past 40yrs who looked away while the manufacturing base got eroded

You are suddenly okay with manufacturing practices of China and kick when trump wants to bring these manufacturing to US?
Capitalists are greedy They want to maximize profits .
The best system is socialism. It has failed because it has never been practiced in it's pure form. Livable wages, free health care, govt housing , cheap groceries and food , govt oversight of price gouging etc
That's the dream of liberal democrats today. They have stated that here previously if you backtrack on those who deem themselves as social democrats.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:33pm On May 12, 2025
basilico:
Capitalists are greedy They want to maximize profits .
The best system is socialism. It has failed because it has never been practiced in it's pure form. Livable wages, free health care, govt housing , cheap groceries and food , govt oversight of price gouging etc
That's the dream of liberal democrats today. They have stated that here previously if you backtrack on those who deem themselves as social democrats.
Socialism is idealistic and not in like with human nature

Human beings are naturally greedy. Capitalism is the best form of govt an results all over the world have shown that countries that adopt capitalism are more successful more than those with socialism

All these free this free that, Someone has to pay for it, Its all great until you run out of someone's money to spend
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 6:34pm On May 12, 2025
basilico:
Capitalists are greedy They want to maximize profits .
The best system is socialism. It has failed because it has never been practiced in it's pure form. Livable wages, free health care, govt housing , cheap groceries and food , govt oversight of price gouging etc
That's the dream of liberal democrats today. They have stated that here previously if you backtrack on those who deem themselves as social democrats.
This meme is a representative

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m):
raumdeuter:
A business man has only profit as his end goal, and he is not mandated to care about the country just his own pocket

Its the work of leaders who should do what benefit the people and we have had leaders for the past 40yrs who looked away while the manufacturing base got eroded

You are suddenly okay with manufacturing practices of China and kick when trump wants to bring these manufacturing to US?
It is a lie. Trump does not want to bring manufacturing to the US. If he did, he wouldn't put a 145% tarriff on Chinese exports to the US but sign an EO for exemption on electronic goods from same Country.

If he did have the intent to re-establish manufacturing in the US, he would start with internal industrial policies that encourage and entice manufacturers to move manufacturing to the US.

Name one single industrial policy you know about that has been enacted in this craze?


In a twisted world of lack of understanding of economic matters, what you don't know is that industrialisation policies are underpinned by huge government investments. Basically, throwing money at it....... which is basically Socialism........

But I see you arguing against socialism in another post.

This is why you guys are all clowns. You do not understand what you voted for, you don't understand what Trump is doing now and what he intends to do. You don't know how things works......at all!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 6:53pm On May 12, 2025
zendi:
Trump is not taking the plane home when leaving office. The gift belongs to the State and is legit.
You leftoids be consoled about this MAGA Government, will you?
Trump says he is going to donate the plane to his Library after he leaves office, where he will continue to use it.
If ur going to be a corruption apologist, at least take some time to learn the facts first, so you aren't sounding even more ignorant.

First hand reason why Nigeria struggles.
Too many people comfortable with outright corruption.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter:
nateevs:
It is a lie. Trump does not want to bring manufacturing to the US. If he did, he wouldn't put a 145% tarriff on Chinese exports to the US but sign an EO for exemption on electronic goods from same Country.

If he did have the intent to re-establish manufacturing in the US, he would start with internal industrial policies that encourage and entice manufacturers to move manufacturing to the US.

Name one single industrial policy you know about that has been enacted in this craze?


In a twisted world of lack of understanding of economic matters, what you don't know is that industrialisation policies are unpinned by huge government investments. Basically, throwing money at it....... which is basically Socialism........

But I see you arguing against socialism in another post.

This is why you guys are all clowns. You do not understand what you voted for, you don't understand what Trump is doing now and what he intends to do. You don't know how things works......at all!
All these are just gibberish and makes no sense at all

The major way to bring back manufacturing is to reward those who manufacture in America. And provide a way for their products to be competitively priced with the foreign products

End buyers will buy what is cheaper, Chinese goods for example will be cheaper, what internal industrial policy will US create that will compete with 75cents per hour paid in China? What will compete with 8yr olds assembling iPhone in China, what internal policy will make US ignore safety concerns like they do in China to stay competitive?

The only way to help local manufacturers is to ensure that Chinese goods and American goods are similarly priced

By placing those tariff on the imported goods you make American manufactured goods competitive which is why the United Auto leader hailed the move

Its why your PM came to grovel at the feet of the same Trump who you claimed doesn't know what he is doing. Does Mr Starmer know you are trash talking the man he came to kiss his behind?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by TemporaryHansel(m): 7:24pm On May 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
All these are just gibberish and makes no sense at all

The major way to bring back manufacturing is to reward those who manufacture in America. And provide a way for their products to be similarly priced with the foreign products

End buyers will buy what is cheaper, Chinese goods for example will be cheaper, what internal industrial policy will US create that will compete with 75cents per hour paid in China? What will compete with 8yr olds assembling iPhone in China, what internal policy will make US ignore safety concerns like they do in China to stay competitive?

The only way to help local manufacturers is to ensure that Chinese goods and American goods are similarly priced

By placing those tariff on the imported goods you make American manufactured goods competitive which is why the United Auto leader hailed the move

Its why your PM came to grovel at the feet of the same Trump who you claimed doesn't know what he is doing. Does Mr Starmer know you are trash talking the man he came to kiss his behind?
Why is nateevs crying more than the bereaved. Doesn't the UK has a plethora of problems he should be focusing on right now?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:38pm On May 12, 2025
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nateevs:
It is a lie. Trump does not want to bring manufacturing to the US. If he did, he wouldn't put a 145% tarriff on Chinese exports to the US but sign an EO for exemption on electronic goods from same Country.

If he did have the intent to re-establish manufacturing in the US, he would start with internal industrial policies that encourage and entice manufacturers to move manufacturing to the US.

Name one single industrial policy you know about that has been enacted in this craze?


In a twisted world of lack of understanding of economic matters, what you don't know is that industrialisation policies are unpinned by huge government investments. Basically, throwing money at it....... which is basically Socialism........

But I see you arguing against socialism in another post.

This is why you guys are all clowns. You do not understand what you voted for, you don't understand what Trump is doing now and what he intends to do. You don't know how things works......at all!
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 7:55pm On May 12, 2025
nateevs:
It is a lie. Trump does not want to bring manufacturing to the US. If he did, he wouldn't put a 145% tarriff on Chinese exports to the US but sign an EO for exemption on electronic goods from same Country.

If he did have the intent to re-establish manufacturing in the US, he would start with internal industrial policies that encourage and entice manufacturers to move manufacturing to the US.

Name one single industrial policy you know about that has been enacted in this craze?


In a twisted world of lack of understanding of economic matters, what you don't know is that industrialisation policies are unpinned by huge government investments. Basically, throwing money at it....... which is basically Socialism........

But I see you arguing against socialism in another post.

This is why you guys are all clowns. You do not understand what you voted for, you don't understand what Trump is doing now and what he intends to do. You don't know how things works......at all!
By having a 145% tariff Chinese products become expensive and local goods stand a better chance if competing on price .
Your suggestion would be that 0% will promote local manufacturing.Right.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:13pm On May 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
A business man has only profit as his end goal, and he is not mandated to care about the country just his own pocket

Its the work of leaders who should do what benefit the people and we have had leaders for the past 40yrs who looked away while the manufacturing base got eroded

You are suddenly okay with manufacturing practices of China and kick when trump wants to bring these manufacturing to US?
She is so confused.
They regulate companies out of the country. Trump wants to remove those regulations and tackle the exodus of manufacturing jobs leaving the country. These confused leftist will come here and shout orange man bad. You want to go outside and manufacture because slave labor? Okay, tariff kee you there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:15pm On May 12, 2025
basilico:
Antifa guidelines on how to destroy infrastructure.

.....The article containing a detailed guide also includes a disclaimer advising against printing the directions. It states, “We’ve chosen not to make this text available as a PDF because we believe that if an arson guide is distributed in printed form, some people will inevitably keep it in their homes or in movement spaces, which the police would be happy to find during a repressive operation. In addition, a printed guide collects forensic traces from anyone who has interacted with it, so if the police recover a copy, they can, with some work, determine who has read it.”
These are Ibime guys oh.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by happney65: 8:18pm On May 12, 2025
Art of the Deal! grin

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:20pm On May 12, 2025
benalvino3:
These are Ibime guys oh.
You mean like these your guys

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:20pm On May 12, 2025
TemporaryHansel:
Why is nateevs crying more than the bereaved. Doesn't the UK has a plethora of problems he should be focusing on right now?
Schrizofrenia is the reason
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:25pm On May 12, 2025
Ibime:
You mean like these your guys
People who took over city blocks and police station for weeks, burn government buildings, tried to burn court buildings is compared to January riot.

I bet they gave you a tour in the summer of love.

Your response to what antifa is plotting is whataboutism.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 8:28pm On May 12, 2025
IjeBos:
Because as a Christian, I've actually read and studied the Bible.
And as a Black American, I've actually read and studied History.

You aren't a Black American, and honestly, despite all the time you've spent talking about Christianity on this site you don't seem to be much of one either.
If you are a Christian why are you sleeping with men?

You read love your neighbors and you thought you have read the Bible. Lol okay.

What do you mean by as a Black American? What has that got to do with anything?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 8:30pm On May 12, 2025
basilico:
My understanding of the presidential jet is that Boeing was paid in 2018 to deliver 2 jets ,deliveet for 2024 but will do it on 2027 .
Is he not spiting Boeing ,by giving them the 6th generation fighter jet order but can't deliver a 747 . They are not designing a new aiframe like for the F-47, they have all the details to the diameter of every bolt,nut and bearing.
---Felon 47 signed the contract for the presidential jet with Boeing in 2018---but why is he adamant to receive the 747-8 gift from Qatar, a country that supports Hamas group---

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/02/27/trump-boeing-reach-handshake-agreement-to-cap-air-force-one-program-at-39b/
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:34pm On May 12, 2025
raumdeuter:
Life probably irritate you

You know what to do? Or do you want me to spell it out?

Use your block button
Nah, I'll just continue trashing your ridiculous arguments as I am now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:37pm On May 12, 2025
Ibime:
You mean like these your guys
Those were antifa troublemakers taking advantage of mob psychology.
Joe Biden thugs.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 8:39pm On May 12, 2025
basilico:
Those were antifa troublemakers taking advantage of non psychology.
Blocked
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:39pm On May 12, 2025
benalvino3:
Schrizofrenia could be an issue with liberals and when you couple that with TDS it is constant crying on social media. Just look at them. From IjeBos to natee
benalvino3:
Schrizofrenia is the reason
Schizophrenia .
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by feedthenation(m): 8:43pm On May 12, 2025
IjeBos:
This post is emblematic of MAGA
1.) Their view of things is limited by their education and their own mental capacities and so they have inability to think larger about the interconnectedness of the world and its effect to the US's health and economics. Ex. How does cutting off funding to Top Research Universities/Institutions help/hurt the US in a decade.
2.) They claim they are Christian but seem to not really understand the message Christ preached.

This post is a culmination of both.
---MAGAdiots and their sympathisers checklist---they won't provide a straight answer---

- don't answer
- deflect and blame Biden, Obama, Democrats
- talk over, shout, lie and be rude
- insult and randomly cry witch hunt, or DEI or Wokeism
- flood the space with 'whataboutism'
- run away scared
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 8:44pm On May 12, 2025
benalvino3:
If you are a Christian why are you sleeping with men?

You read love your neighbors and you thought you have read the Bible. Lol okay.

What do you mean by as a Black American? What has that got to do with anything?
This guy says he's a Christian and his first line in his post is him lying.
Lying just to lie at that. Lol

Just cuz you call yourself something doesn't make you that thing.
Christ is a heart condition and your heart is not full of Christ.

You are everything wrong with Christianity today.
Oga, the truth is not in you.

1 John 2:3-4
3 We know that we have come to know him if we keep his commands. 4 Whoever says, “I know him,” but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in that person.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 8:47pm On May 12, 2025
feedthenation:
---Felon 47 signed the contract for the presidential jet with Boeing in 2018---but why is he adamant to receive the 747-8 gift from Qatar, a country that supports Hamas group---

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/02/27/trump-boeing-reach-handshake-agreement-to-cap-air-force-one-program-at-39b/
Boeing will deliver jet in 2035. Boeing subcontractor will take a few months 2 years to retrofit the donated 747 .


https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/05/12/the-scandal-buried-in-the-air-force-one-story-n3802692

You are a very ignorant person I must add.
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