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Look at the ww2 wra military hardware these clowns are parading when other countries have b2 Stealth bombers and f35 fighter jets.

naptu2:
All mouth.

They are already battling Boko Haram while you are sitting down and making mouth. If it's easy, why don't you go and show them how to do it?

Show them how to do it while they chop the money? I hope you are normal. If they pass the security budget funds to me, i will show them.
Monkey no go de work while Baboon de chop. Common sense

SmartyPants:
I doubt even the opponents would notice or care.

I know what to do

[quote author=Chucks13 post=135353773]Good for you.


Your moniker already defines

Yeah. I'm proud of my lineage, and that's a common nomenclature in my place of origin.

qtx:
Show them how to do it while they chop the money? I hope you are normal. If they pass the security budget funds to me, i will show them.
Monkey no go de work while Baboon de chop. Common sense

Lame excuses. The troops, the officers and men fighting there that you are insulting do not have security budget, yet they are doing the job. Since you are better than them, go and show them how to do it, rather than making noise online.


Noise, noise, noise because it's easy to make noise online. Excuses don't get the job done, since you are better and you know it all, go and show them how it's done. Every child is the best commamder or warrior in his head.

All mouth, no action or knowledge.

[quote author=Pharaoh4rin post=135361928][/quote]So you are Pharaoh descedant or what are you saying exactly? Because I'm talking about your moniker "Pharaoh" and you are talking about your lineage pls how does this tallies?

naptu2:
Lame excuses. The troops, the officers and men fighting there that you are insulting do not have security budget, yet they are doing the job. Since you are better than them, go and show them how to do it, rather than making noise online.


Noise, noise, noise because it's easy to make noise online. Excuses don't get the job done, since you are better and you know it all, go and show them how it's done. Every child is the best commamder or warrior in his head.

All mouth, no action or knowledge.

Part of the reason I mentioned Common Sense in my last response is that you speak out of sentiments and emotions, so your sense of reasoning is beclouded, unfortunately. Let me ask you, don't the so-called troops, the officers and men fighting, as you put it, dont earn salaries? They are doing their jobs for the pay they earn. Do I also earn the pay with them? So if they don't do the job well, why should I not talk when its part of my tax money that is being used to pay them? Let tri.be and re.ligion continue to control your thinking and keep suffering; I don't fall for that. I am too educated and exposed to be manipulated through those means bro. Sorry.

Chucks13:
So you are Pharaoh descedant or what are you saying exactly? Because I'm talking about your moniker "Pharaoh" and you are talking about your lineage pls how does this tallies?

I understand you. I kinda tryna letcha know that it's not just moniker. It's real name, and I usually identify my origin by it.

Your earlier quote does not warrant the narrative but I chose to connect them.

Pharaoh4rin:
I understand you. I kinda tryna letcha know that it's not just moniker. It's real name, and I usually identify my origin by it.

Your earlier quote does not warrant the narrative but I chose to connect them.

Oh ok I didn't know their is a family name called "Pharaoh4rin" I'm just seen that for the first time.

Thanks.

Qtx thinks that I am going to read his post. I am only interested in the views of experts who know what they are doing.

Chucks13:
Oh ok I didn't know their is a family name called "Pharaoh4rin" I'm just seen that for the first time.

Thanks.

Gotcha.

Foreign Pharaoh for real

EpicDude123:
No be this Air force day display wey dem dey always fall off from parachute land ontop tree so?

Nigerian Army paratroopers also do that

DeathParade:
Thanks for the answers friends. Can you please tell me where I can read about Nigerian insurgency online to learn about it? I have just opened wikipedia, but I dont know if it is considered a reliable source for this conflict. Wiki has known to have biases... thanks in advance.


India does design and make its own fighter jets, starting right from raw material stage. Only in jet engine technology we are behind. But that doesn't mean we don't design and develop fighter jets independently.

India co produces it's fighter jets. Name one India fighter jet that wasn't in collaboration with Russia or USA?

agentarcher:
India co produces it's fighter jets. Name one India fighter jet that wasn't in collaboration with Russia or USA?

Indian fighter jets of Indian design that weren't made in collaboration with USA or Russia:-
Retired: HAL Marut (First jet fighter designed in Asia to actually enter military service, ahead of China or Japan or Korea)
In service: LCA Tejas Mk1, Mk1A
In prototype stage: HAL Tejas Mk2, HAL AMCA
In design stage: HAL TEDBF

Cool

DeathParade:
Indian fighter jets of Indian design that weren't made in collaboration with USA or Russia:-
Retired: HAL Marut (First jet fighter designed in Asia to actually enter military service, ahead of China or Japan or Korea)
In service: LCA Tejas Mk1, Mk1A
In prototype stage: HAL Tejas Mk2, HAL AMCA
In design stage: HAL TEDBF

LCA Tejas Mk1 and mk1a are both designed by the India government in collaboration with GE Aerospace's who designs and manufacture the F404-GE-IN20 engines for the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

The jet they discontinued and the ones in prototype are all in collaboration with a company from USA and Russia. Same goes for the India hypesonic missile which is mostly Russia tech in an India body.

GE Aerospace's is in USA. The engine, avionics, missile guidance system, are not designed or manufactured in India. Only the body and system language is. No country buys India fighter jet because they know the direct source. They design the boby of their jets and test the aerodynamics. But all core component is imported.

agentarcher:
LCA Tejas Mk1 and mk1a are both designed by the India government in collaboration with GE Aerospace's who designs and manufacture the F404-GE-IN20 engines for the Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL).

The jet they discontinued and the ones in prototype are all in collaboration with a company from USA and Russia. Same goes for the India hypesonic missile which is mostly Russia tech in an India body.

GE Aerospace's is in USA. The engine, avionics, missile guidance system, are not designed or manufactured in India. Only the body and system language is. No country buys India fighter jet because they know the direct source. They design the boby of their jets and test the aerodynamics. But all core component is imported.

Your claims are as asnine as claiming that USA never landed on the moon. India designed EVERYTHING of the Tejas Mk1A fighter jet other than TWO THINGS: ENGINE AND EJECTION SEAT.

Look at the old photo below, that is the Mk1 version. See its almost mostly Indian. By officially state figures, 70% (by part count) of the Tejas Mk1 is Indian designed, developed and manufactured. That number is set to go up to 90% for Tejas Mk2. Everything from sensors, actuators, avionics, sensor fusion, weapons, fly by wire, composite structures, radome, landing gear, tires, brake discs, bubnle canopy, life support systems, etc EVERYTHING is all being developed in India FROM SCRATCH.

For the remaining 30% parts that are imported, see first photo is have posted and read below how most of those imported parts now have Indian analogues in design or testing and will shortly be replacing the imported parts

There are two Israeli flags in the photo I posted. One is for the radar, one is for the SDR. In the later Mk1A production models, instead of the Israeli radar, an Indian Gallium Arsenide AESA Radar named UTTAM AESA RADAR is to be used. That thing was developed completely in India. See photos below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttam_AESA_Radar
The SDR is Israeli because Indian Air Force selected it for the entire air fleet. The SDR used by Indian navy is completely Indian designed and developed, so its not like we don't have the technology. Also the the Israeli SDR is manufactured in India by Indian company Astra Microwave Tech Ltd.

British flags are for ejection seat, IFR probe and radome. The new Indian radome and IFR probes have finished testing and will replace the British made counter parts. The Indian designed replacement of the British ejection seat is a recently started project and will take a few years to achieve satisfactory reliability.

French flag is for MFD. But now an Indian company BEL makes the MFD displays, so that is also history.

That leaves the American flag for the engine and the a Russian flag for the guns. The engine we can't make on our own yet. I wrote that in my first comment itself. This is the biggest technological challenge India is currently facing. And the Russian flag is for the guns, we are making that particular gun in India under license and don't want to reinvent the wheel because it's not something that we can't make or repair on our own (its not very high tech). Its low priority, so we'llkeep the Russian gun.



Indian missile and radar technologies have already crossed the critical threshold where we are making almost everything in India.

Its the same for hypersonic tech. India has DRDO HSTDV and ISRO ATV. Two separate scramjet engine programs that are completely Indian. The Russians claim they'll give us Hypersonic tech via BrahMos 2, but no deal for it has ever been signed. And Russians don't do charity. They make us pay through our nose for every single piece of tech they sell us. So your claims are bogus. Kindly read up more on the topic. You're woefully under/mis-informed.

And if you wish to claim that any particular part of what I claim to be Indian is not Indian, then please mention the exact part you are talking about and I will give you PROOF of it being Indian. This is my subject of expertise, so please go ahead and ask. Just ask one by one, don't make all those broad sweeping statements like the ones you made in your previous comment. Be specific. Like what exact thing in what exact jet is not Indian. And I'll give you accurate answer with proof. Or you can ask about a particular technology. Like radars, or missiles or focal planar arrays for use in IIR sensors, etc for example. When you are being specific, I can provide proof. So please be specific. Which tech do you think India doesn't have.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfdquRC1QTw?si=VdsopsSyWGFBlMP3

This is a video of the scientists and engineers that worked. This is just one video of a large series of videos. Just to give you an idea of exactly how, who and where the technology for Tejas was developed. Honestly, I think you are severely underestimating Indian technological prowess. India holds the world record for longest distance quantum entanglement communication over commercial optical fiber cables at around 380 km. India holds the world record for the deepest operation of a sea crawler for deep sea mining ops (Google NIOT Varaha). India is a rising technological juggernaut that countries like USA tried to sabotage many times. Yet India is developing tech that is being denied to it. Yet here you are, thinking that all Indian tech is just a hand me down from Russia or USA. If it was this simple, Nigeria would also have the same level of technological achievements that India has. There are no free lunches in this world.

DeathParade:
Your claims are as asnine as claiming that USA never landed on the moon. India designed EVERYTHING of the Tejas Mk1A fighter jet other than TWO THINGS: ENGINE AND EJECTION SEAT.

Look at the old photo below, that is the Mk1 version. See its almost mostly Indian. By officially state figures, 70% (by part count) of the Tejas Mk1 is Indian designed, developed and manufactured. That number is set to go up to 90% for Tejas Mk2. Everything from sensors, actuators, avionics, sensor fusion, weapons, fly by wire, composite structures, radome, landing gear, tires, brake discs, bubnle canopy, life support systems, etc EVERYTHING is all being developed in India FROM SCRATCH.

For the remaining 30% parts that are imported, see first photo is have posted and read below how most of those imported parts now have Indian analogues in design or testing and will shortly be replacing the imported parts

There are two Israeli flags in the photo I posted. One is for the radar, one is for the SDR. In the later Mk1A production models, instead of the Israeli radar, an Indian Gallium Arsenide AESA Radar named UTTAM AESA RADAR is to be used. That thing was developed completely in India. See photos below. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uttam_AESA_Radar
The SDR is Israeli because Indian Air Force selected it for the entire air fleet. The SDR used by Indian navy is completely Indian designed and developed, so its not like we don't have the technology. Also the the Israeli SDR is manufactured in India by Indian company Astra Microwave Tech Ltd.

British flags are for ejection seat, IFR probe and radome. The new Indian radome and IFR probes have finished testing and will replace the British made counter parts. The Indian designed replacement of the British ejection seat is a recently started project and will take a few years to achieve satisfactory reliability.

French flag is for MFD. But now an Indian company BEL makes the MFD displays, so that is also history.

That leaves the American flag for the engine and the a Russian flag for the guns. The engine we can't make on our own yet. I wrote that in my first comment itself. This is the biggest technological challenge India is currently facing. And the Russian flag is for the guns, we are making that particular gun in India under license and don't want to reinvent the wheel because it's not something that we can't make or repair on our own (its not very high tech). Its low priority, so we'llkeep the Russian gun.



Indian missile and radar technologies have already crossed the critical threshold where we are making almost everything in India.

Its the same for hypersonic tech. India has DRDO HSTDV and ISRO ATV. Two separate scramjet engine programs that are completely Indian. The Russians claim they'll give us Hypersonic tech via BrahMos 2, but no deal for it has ever been signed. And Russians don't do charity. They make us pay through our nose for every single piece of tech they sell us. So your claims are bogus. Kindly read up more on the topic. You're woefully under/mis-informed.

And if you wish to claim that any particular part of what I claim to be Indian is not Indian, then please mention the exact part you are talking about and I will give you PROOF of it being Indian. This is my subject of expertise, so please go ahead and ask. Just ask one by one, don't make all those broad sweeping statements like the ones you made in your previous comment. Be specific. Like what exact thing in what exact jet is not Indian. And I'll give you accurate answer with proof. Or you can ask about a particular technology. Like radars, or missiles or focal planar arrays for use in IIR sensors, etc for example. When you are being specific, I can provide proof. So please be specific. Which tech do you think India doesn't have.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfdquRC1QTw?si=VdsopsSyWGFBlMP3

This is a video of the scientists and engineers that worked. This is just one video of a large series of videos. Just to give you an idea of exactly how, who and where the technology for Tejas was developed. Honestly, I think you are severely underestimating Indian technological prowess. India holds the world record for longest distance quantum entanglement communication over commercial optical fiber cables at around 380 km. India holds the world record for the deepest operation of a sea crawler for deep sea mining ops (Google NIOT Varaha). India is a rising technological juggernaut that countries like USA tried to sabotage many times. Yet India is developing tech that is being denied to it. Yet here you are, thinking that all Indian tech is just a hand me down from Russia or USA. If it was this simple, Nigeria would also have the same level of technological achievements that India has. There are no free lunches in this world.

Lol, 🤣 using Wikipedia as a source of information shows you don't even know what you are saying. It's a well known fact in the aviation community India has never produced a jet fighter independently. The primary core of very fighter is the engine. Then then avionics. Non is produced in India. From your logic, if I buy a car engine and electrical system from bmw to produce a vehicle. I independently produced that vehicle. I have been following fighter jet forums since 2012. Even the Indians in the forum never once claimed to produce a jet independently. Russia, China and USA all produce their jets independently. In the early 2000s China produced in collaboration with Russia. India is yet to produce any independent jet. Accept the facts as it is. India has no independently made fighter jet.

agentarcher:
Lol, 🤣 using Wikipedia as a source of information shows you don't even know what you are saying. It's a well known fact in the aviation community India has never produced a jet fighter independently. The primary core of very fighter is the engine. Then then avionics. Non is produced in India. From your logic, if I buy a car engine and electrical system from bmw to produce a vehicle. I independently produced that vehicle. I have been following fighter jet forums since 2012. Even the Indians in the forum never once claimed to produce a jet independently. Russia, China and USA all produce their jets independently. In the early 2000s China produced in collaboration with Russia. India is yet to produce any independent jet. Accept the facts as it is. India has no independently made fighter jet.

I posted literal photo and video evidence of an Indian designed and made fighter jet radar. The radar is the most significant avionics equipment on a fighter jet.

And your reply was "India doesn't make avionics ree, I heard on forum ree"

I explained how literally every piece of equipment on the Indian Tejas Mk1A is going to be Indian designed and developed with the sole exception of the engine. And you still consider it to be a foreign fighter jet. Mind you, Turkey, South Korea, Sweden and until recently even China was in the same category. Or worse.

This is flat earther level of delusions. Sure man, whatever rocks your boat.