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Re: Why Were Michael And Satan Disputing Over The Body Of Moses (jude 9)? by Kobojunkie: 6:04pm On May 15, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
➜then kindly explain to us who demons are? 🤨
➜ Also, you greatly downplayed the acts of freed fallen-angels in Revelation 🤦🏾‍♂️!—
➜ You will do so well to perform comparative analysis to see their similarities🤔
➜ I will like to know your perspective whether or not the fallen-angels do bring forth the "same curses" 🤔 given the sample of biblical evidence that attests to this
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For the umpteenth time in this, the books you pretend you adhere to DO NOT draw a connection between demons and fallen angels. undecided

2. What do I care about your notions regarding these fallen angels when my insistence is that there is no connection made in any of the books between fallen angels and demons? undecided

3. Read what the books in fact state. undecided

4. There is no suggestion in any of the books that fallen angels bring curses. They are themselves the cursed ones, so what power would they have to curse others with? The one who cursed mankind— all the books attest to this — is YHWH, and He alone decided the curses upon even His own people — as documented in Deuteronomy 28 - 30, Leviticus 26-27 & Matthew 25 — when they would be deployed against those judged by Him. undecided
Re: Why Were Michael And Satan Disputing Over The Body Of Moses (jude 9)? by Gabrielshow24: 6:26pm On May 15, 2025
Kobojunkie:
For the umpteenth time in this, the books you pretend you adhere to DO NOT draw a connection between demons and fallen angels. undecided

2. What do I care about your notions regarding these fallen angels when my insistence is that there is no connection made in any of the books between fallen angels and demons? undecided

3. Read what the books in fact state. undecided

4. There is no suggestion in any of the books that fallen angels bring curses. They are themselves the cursed ones, so what power would they have to curse others with? The one who cursed mankind— all the books attest to this — is YHWH, and He alone decided the curses upon even His own people — as documented in Deuteronomy 28 - 30, Leviticus 26-27 & Matthew 25 — when they would be deployed against those judged by Him. undecided
You are clearly mistaken, In revelation the fallen angels brought forth maleficent effects upon the population of the world!

Also, not to prolong this discussion any further. I have stated earlier that the biblical narrative is that demons are fallen angels who rebelled against God! It was man's directive that led him to give a befitting term for "fallen-angels" seeing that in the scripture no distinction is made, name wise👀, between God's Angels and Devil's Angels! Although, context gives the reader hints on what type of angel is being read about! Thus, once again it's a biblical fact that demons are fallen-angels!

Your sheepish definition falls short in various forms!
Re: Why Were Michael And Satan Disputing Over The Body Of Moses (jude 9)? by Kobojunkie: 6:32pm On May 15, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
You are clearly mistaken, In revelation the fallen angels brought forth maleficent effects upon the population of the world!..
Where in Revelations do you get this idea of yours from? undecided
Re: Why Were Michael And Satan Disputing Over The Body Of Moses (jude 9)? by Kobojunkie: 6:37pm On May 15, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
➜...Also, not to prolong this discussion any further. I have stated earlier that the biblical narrative is that demons are fallen angels who rebelled against God!
➜ It was man's directive that led him to give a befitting term for "fallen-angels" seeing that in the scripture no distinction is made, name wise👀, between God's Angels and Devil's Angels!
➜ Although, context gives the reader hints on what type of angel is being read about! Thus, once again it's a biblical fact that demons are fallen-angels!
➜ Your sheepish definition falls short in various forms!
1. Nothing biblical about this assertion of yours. undecided

2. Clear distinctions exist in Israelite Scripture between Demons and those whom you regard as fallen angels. That you reject these distinctions DOES NOT mean they do not exist. undecided

3. Again, this statement in bold, along with many of the others, is of religious origin and has nothing of Scripture. undecided

4. I gave you no definition since I instead called on you to, in fact, read the book, not go around regurgitating religion tales you have been fed by equally ignorant individuals whom you deem your gods. undecided
Re: Why Were Michael And Satan Disputing Over The Body Of Moses (jude 9)? by Gabrielshow24: 7:22pm On May 15, 2025
Kobojunkie:
1. Nothing biblical about this assertion of yours. undecided

2. Clear distinctions exist in Israelite Scripture between Demons and those whom you regard as fallen angels. That you reject these distinctions DOES NOT mean they do not exist. undecided

3. Again, this statement in bold, along with many of the others, is of religious origin and has nothing of Scripture. undecided

4. I gave you no definition since I instead called on you to, in fact, read the book, not go around regurgitating religion tales you have been fed by equally ignorant individuals whom you deem your gods. undecided
Your bone of contention is totally irrelevant 🤨. It doesn't change or affect the subject matter! You just came to derail my previous discussions.

Irrespective of the distinction, the onus is on Max to exemplify how these beings clone the flesh of dead men! Whether they are fallen angels or demons—I care less at this point as both are derivatives of Satan!

FYI, I do not follow men, I follow God! Your slight jab is greatly misplaced 🤨.
Re: Why Were Michael And Satan Disputing Over The Body Of Moses (jude 9)? by Kobojunkie: 7:28pm On May 15, 2025
Gabrielshow24:
➜Your bone of contention is totally irrelevant 🤨. It doesn't change or affect the subject matter! You just came to derail my previous discussions. ....
➜Whether they are fallen angels or demons—I care less at this point as both are derivatives of Satan! FYI, I do not follow men, I follow God! Your slight jab is greatly misplaced 🤨.
Again, the fact here is that there is no direct or indirect biblical—Israelite Scripture—link — link between Angels/fallen angels and demons. Religious claims that fallen angels are demons are ideas manufactured in religious circles, where these disconnected ideas are considered tradition. undecided

2. Again, children of the Devil, aka devil's angels or fallen angels, ARE NOT demons. This is the standpoint of Israelite Scripture.🤔
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