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| Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 2:51pm On May 16, 2025 |
Yup! The evidence and of this and so many more exists. When one is ready to go beyond the denial stage, this young man will help with a dose of the redpill using biblical sources and evidence. There are others... Enjoy. Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXXNdhbwz9Y?si=n54Vz7j57Wk-FuSv |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 3:02pm On May 16, 2025*. Modified: 6:46am On May 18, 2025 |
Here is a summary: Introduction to the Rapture Discussion - The conversation begins with a reference to the rapture, suggesting that it may have already occurred, challenging the common belief that it is a future event. - The host expresses curiosity about the guest's perspective on biblical history, particularly regarding the rapture, indicating a desire to explore unconventional views on the topic. - The guest, Mr. Kunle Adere, shares his belief that the rapture has already taken place, and they discuss various reasons and biblical references to support this claim. Biblical References to the Rapture - The guest references Revelation 1:7, stating that it indicates those who pierced Jesus will see him upon his return, raising questions about the timing and nature of this event. - The discussion includes a passage from 2 Thessalonians that warns of a rebellion and the revelation of the Antichrist before the day of the Lord, suggesting that the rapture cannot happen until these events unfold. - The guest proposes that the resurrection of the dead could align with the return of those who pierced Jesus, suggesting they may have witnessed his return during a past event. The Epistle of Apollos and Historical Context - The guest introduces the Epistle of Apollos, a non-canonical text that discusses the rapture and provides a narrative of how it may have occurred, suggesting that the rapture was witnessed by some historical figures. - The text describes Apollos's vision of the rapture during a time of siege in Jerusalem, indicating that those who were taken up were not seen again, as they had been resurrected. - The conversation touches on how this perspective may challenge traditional views held by many Christians regarding the timeline of biblical events and the nature of resurrection. Discussion of Rapture Reasons - The guest lists 15 reasons to support the claim that the rapture has already occurred, starting with the assertion that Jesus's return was witnessed by those who pierced him. - Another point mentioned is that some standing with Jesus would not taste death before seeing his return, referencing Matthew 16:28. - The conversation continues with the idea that the generation witnessing these events may not be defined by the typical 40-year span, suggesting flexibility in interpreting 'generation' in biblical terms. Cultural and Historical Parallels - The discussion shifts to cultural practices, noting similarities between ancient Hebrew customs and those of various African cultures, such as circumcision and marriage traditions. - The guest argues that these cultural connections provide evidence of a historical link between African people and the biblical Israelites, emphasizing the importance of recognizing these ties. - The guest also mentions the significance of language, noting similarities between Hebrew and various African languages, particularly Yoruba, as further proof of this connection. Controversial Perspectives on Geography and Identity - The guest asserts that the current state of Israel does not represent the biblical Israel, claiming that the true descendants of the Israelites are found in sub-Saharan Africa. - He argues that historical and geographical evidence supports the idea that the original land of the Israelites encompasses parts of modern-day Africa rather than the Middle East. - This perspective challenges mainstream beliefs about Jewish identity and the historical narrative surrounding the Israelites, prompting further discussion about the implications of these beliefs. Deception and Control in Historical Narratives - The guest discusses the notion of deception in historical narratives, suggesting that there is a concerted effort to obscure the true history of the Israelites and their connection to Africa. - He posits that the motivations behind this deception include control over cultural narratives and resources, as well as maintaining power dynamics in modern society. - This leads to a broader discussion about the implications of these beliefs for contemporary African identity and the understanding of biblical history. Conclusion and Open Questions - The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of the complexity of the topics discussed, emphasizing the importance of open-mindedness and critical thinking when exploring historical and biblical narratives. - The guest encourages listeners to question traditional beliefs and engage with diverse perspectives on biblical history and identity. - This dialogue highlights the ongoing relevance of these discussions in shaping contemporary understandings of faith, identity, and history. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 3:03pm On May 16, 2025 |
Its a long butt ride right into the rabbit hole. At the end of the video, I am not sure what a lot of you would think. We can talk about it here. ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by Dtruthspeaker: 6:36pm On May 16, 2025 |
chieveboy:You want people to talk of something which they know that if Just Is is done, they would not be qualified? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by Kobojunkie: 6:48pm On May 16, 2025 |
chieveboy:All he spewed was nothing but more religious gobbledegook, the same as the over 46,000 other Christian denominations do, including the ones that manufactured the idea of a rapture. ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by Kobojunkie: 6:48pm On May 16, 2025 |
chieveboy:Nonsense! ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MrPresident1: 7:39pm On May 16, 2025 |
chieveboy:The goons have already started attacking you. Once you ask questions, you must be put down ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 9:15pm On May 16, 2025*. Modified: 9:10am On May 17, 2025 |
MrPresident1:Yea lol, I am waiting for someone to use valid points to counter the guy |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 6:53am On May 17, 2025 |
Dtruthspeaker:No. A lot of people have not understood what is translated in the bible for them. The young man in the video did a hard and good job of doing so using biblical references. Many in other paths like Eckankar know what really went on and what the prophecies really mean including the being who gave John those prophecies which I wrote on by the way. By and large, this is the time of revelation where things hidden in plain sight would come to the surface for a lot of us. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 6:54am On May 17, 2025 |
Kobojunkie:I am not sure of you watched the video. I still am not sure if you understood if you did. This is is pure history if I should summarize |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 7:20am On May 17, 2025 |
Kobojunkie:Here is an archeological find that goes along with what this young man is saying https://www.tiktok.com/video/7504300786537565445/ |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MrPresident1: 8:18am On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:The guy is on the right track. He already knows the fake Israel, he knows we are living in a matrix of lies, he knows that all this concoction is from masterminded from the highest level, from the mind of an evil genius, he is very much on the right track. The enforcers will avoid your thread like a plague, or try to derail with unintelligent mumbojumbo |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 9:09am On May 17, 2025 |
MrPresident1:Yea. is we may find shocking is the possibility that where the God of the bible was leading the Isrealites is actually West Africa and prominently Nigeria. The term "Ile Ife" is 'dangerously' beginning to have some basis... Add that to the fact that King Solomon's wife the queen of Sheba purportedly lived and died in Nigeria having been visited by him. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MrPresident1: 9:14am On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:There is a movie 'A tribe called Judah' putting it right in our faces that Nigeria is where Judah is - the people. See what is written: Zephaniah 3:10 From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia my suppliants, even the daughter of my dispersed, shall bring mine offering. From beyond the rivers of Ethiopia, the LORD'S people will come |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 9:19am On May 17, 2025 |
MrPresident1:wow, I saw the ad for the movie but never thought to sit down with it. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MrPresident1: 9:35am On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:Try and see it, you will see the depiction of the major tribes as the children of the castaway woman Judah |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 10:56am On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:What is RAPTURE? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 11:19am On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:While not adhering to the biblical definition. and understanding, I will cut through with advance information that it is an event which had happened several times in History on this planet (and others) where the beings who are in charge of the spiritual development of mankind and who "made man in their image" levitate a few folks to a mother spaceship in orbit ala Elijah and the so-called "chariot of fire" for reasons known. Coming to the biblical one described by John and others, it was a grand event among diverse others which at the time was to come not long after the departure of Jesus if you are to take Jesus's words which the young man in the video above uses seriously. Major keypoint on what "rapture" is in this case: Levitation. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 11:30am On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:Is the word RAPTURE written in the Bible? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 12:19pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:We seem to be heading into elementaries here, and you sound like this "Bible" is one original work of literature as in an author sitting down to write a book yo be called such. There are several versions of "Bible" and I know they use different words for stuff, which version of "Bible" are you talking of? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:24pm On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:Any version! |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 12:30pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Thessalonians 4:17 (Tongue-in-cheek) |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 1:19pm On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:The word "RAPTURE" is my question Sir! |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 2:01pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:What is your point lol? You want to say the Bible never mentioned it hence any allusion baseless right ? ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:20pm On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:Thanks for the highlighted Sir! ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 2:31pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Lol who will help tell you that the Bible was not written in English language and that: "The phrase "caught up" is translated from the Greek word "harpazō", meaning to seize or snatch away. When the Bible was translated into Latin (the Vulgate), "harpazō" became "rapiemur", from which we get the English word "rapture."? Do you now see why I said you are leading us to elementaries? How do you even read a book translated from several other languages and now hold everyone down that it must be word for word? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:34pm On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:You have answered me Sir: No version of the Bible used that word! ![]() |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 2:38pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:So what does that mean or imply? Or who said the bible used that term? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:41pm On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:Do you believe only in the Bible? |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 2:43pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:Just answer the question first, you need do that so you come face to face with your aimlessness around the question on where the word "rapture" was used. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by MaxInDHouse(m): 2:49pm On May 17, 2025 |
chieveboy:Well i only believe in the Bible whenever i see anyone talking about reality i try as much as possible to figure out the source of knowledge so in your post i noticed you mention "BIBLE" and at the same time "RAPTURE" and i have always known that no version of the Bible used the term but i may be wrong that's why i tried to be certain that i'm right. |
| Re: Rapture Might Have Already Taken Place by chieveboy(op): 3:12pm On May 17, 2025 |
MaxInDHouse:And this is why I asked when it was mentioned on this thread that the term existed in the bible. I see how you perceive the "Bible" and you presented it like some authority on reality. Why don't we study it to become doctors, biologists, physicists, astrologists, Pilots etc? after all, Aren't those disciplines a study of reality? |
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