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Kobojunkie:
According to the Israelites, He is. So, what does that have to do with this Rapture talk?

Do you agree with the isrealites?

chieveboy:
In which land?
Statistics shows that (relatively) atheist or non-religious populations (countries) are more peaceful and harmonious than the religious ones. More so, religion and their books are single-handedly behind most atrocities on earth.

Ọmọ religion has never ever been the cause of any atrocities anywhere rather it's POLITICS but Satan blinded most people making you think religion is the cause whereas FALSE religion is just one of the tool in the hands of politicians!

chieveboy:
Before the Bible came and after it did, there had been conflict. I am not even sure how you reasoned yourself into thinking peace exists in and would be ushered via a random book which basically is a compilation of personal letters, biography and history where the original characters never intended it to be used as it is being done, neither they being aware their letters would one day be referred to as a Bible and held in the regard that you folks do.

Conflicts in this world has always been due to POLITICS so God's word came to shed light on this.

chieveboy:
You sound like God asked that a book called "Bible" be written and should become "his word".

God's word (Bible) has gathered people throughout the world today and what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 is undergoing fulfillment today among true adherents of God's word (Bible)

Truthseeker10:
➜Do you agree with the isrealites?

What does this have to do with the current topic, which is Rapture? Does one need to be an Israelite to comment on this or anything that has to do with them?

Kobojunkie:
What does this have to do with the current topic, which is Rapture? Does one need to be an Israelite to comment on this or anything that has to do with them?

Do you agree with the isrealites that their God is your creator? Yes or no?

Truthseeker10:
➜Do you agree with the isrealites that their God is your creator? Yes or no?

I believe in Santa Claus. But, again, what does that have to do with this topic we are on?

Kobojunkie:
I believe in Santa Claus. But, again, what does that have to do with this topic we are on?

Is Santa Claus your creator?
Do you mean that you don't know your creator even with all your knowledge and understanding?

Truthseeker10:
➜Is Santa Claus your creator? Do you mean that you don't know your creator even with all your knowledge and understanding?

Does Santa Claus have to be my creator before I can believe in him? Yikes!

But again, what does the knowledge and understanding of the identity of my creator have to do with this Rapture topic of the Christians?

chieveboy:
Also "not being qualified" is a corner the deceiver have pushed a lot of people so as to generate fear.

Advanced information tells you that the ultimate God cannot regret making man and cannot be angry.

The earth is designed to experience calamities and troubles like the apocalypse, but remains the best school for Souls to learn the qualities of divine love and move in to his rightfully place as a manifested Son of God.

So even if the earth is turned upside down, it will always house Souls who dare to incarnate on earth.
Eternity means perpetuity.

The mere fact that no one has seen nor identified Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed etc since they died proves all these you say are just your wishes.

Kobojunkie:
Does Santa Claus have to be my creator before I can believe in him? Yikes!

But again, what does the knowledge and understanding of the identity of my creator have to do with this Rapture topic of the Christians?

Kobojunkie are you claiming that you don't agree with the isrealites that their God is not your creator?

Truthseeker10:
... are you claiming that you don't agree with the isrealites that their God is not your creator?

Again, what does the knowledge and understanding of the identity of my creator have to do with this Rapture topic of the Christians?

Kobojunkie:
Again, what does the knowledge and understanding of the identity of my creator have to do with this Rapture topic of the Christians?

Kobojunkie are you claiming that you don't agree with the isrealites that their God is not your creator?

Truthseeker10:
...are you claiming that you don't agree with the isrealites that their God is not your creator?

Sigh! I see.... let's continue in 6 months then.

Kobojunkie:
Sigh! I see.... let's continue in 6 months then.

😂😂Kobojunkie you agree that the God of the bible exists as the God of the isrealites but you don't agree that he created you?

Dtruthspeaker:
The mere fact that no one has seen nor identified Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed etc since they died proves all these you say are just your wishes.

I am not sure you have your information intact on these characters sir.

We learn everyday...

chieveboy:
I am not sure you have your information intact on these characters sir.

We learn everyday...

Are you about to tell us that you have seen Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed living on the earth after they died?

Note Google still records they are dead and have not returned

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ religion has never ever been the cause of any atrocities anywhere rather it's POLITICS but Satan blinded most people making you think religion is the cause whereas FALSE religion is just one of the tool in the hands of politicians!


Conflicts in this world has always been due to POLITICS so God's word came to shed light on this.

God's word (Bible) has gathered people throughout the world today and what is written in the Bible book of Isaiah 2:2-4 and Micah 4:1-3 is undergoing fulfillment today among true adherents of God's word (Bible)

I see your innocence in reasoning, but truth builds on itself, hence learning never stops.

That said, the following gathers people:

Weed, music, politics, religion, sex, fear, charity, cultism, Love, Education, etc. What is the big deal in "gathering people"?

Dtruthspeaker:
Are you about to tell us that you have seen Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed living on the earth after they died?

Note Google still records they are dead and have not returned

Your point on me not having seen these characters hence not having existed is like you saying since I have not my father's father, then he did not exist. How elementary could that reasoning be?

It gets more alarming when you include people like Napoleon and Hitler in the list who existed in the era of cameras. It does things to our sense of 'nawa o'.

chieveboy:

I see your innocence in reasoning, but truth builds on itself, hence learning never stops.
That said, the following gathers people: Weed, music, politics, religion, sex, fear, charity, cultism, Love, Education, etc. What is the big deal in "gathering people"?

I love the highlighted!

I must say "thank you" and "thank you" again and again for this question!

Now pick one out of all these that has helped all it's adherents to divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Ọmọ the true adherents of God's word (Bible) has used this wonderful book to achieve what you are reading today!

ánimal

What have I been preaching since I joined this forum?

Gabrielshow24:
🤕and so Nigeria is conclusively Judah? 🤦🏾‍♂️What kind of deductive reasoning did you employ that warranted such a distorted conclusion? 🤧
God have mercy, nothing wey Adamu no go see for gate🤔!

MaxInDHouse:
I love the highlighted!

I must say "thank you" and "thank you" again and again for this question!

Now pick one out of all these that has helped all it's adherents to divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing, buying, selling and using weapons and vow never to raise weapons against anyone again. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Survival, Charity

Ọmọ the true adherents of God's word (Bible) has used this wonderful book to achieve what you are reading today!

In which country do you find those?

chieveboy:
Survival, Charity
In which country do you find those?

In which country did Isaiah and Micah say they will be?
Ọmọ Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere today and they will never ever raise weapon in support of anyone whereas those you thought are united in
Weed, music, sex, fear, charity, cultism, Love, Education will easily carry weapons against their members at the order of someone whose family is safe and start killing themselves. Revelations 6:3-4

MaxInDHouse:
In which country did Isaiah and Micah say they will be?

I do not know.

Ọmọ Jehovah's Witnesses are everywhere today and they will never ever raise weapon in support of anyone whereas those you thought are united in
Weed, music, sex, fear, charity, cultism, Love, Education will easily carry weapons against their members at the order of someone whose family is safe and start killing themselves. Revelations 6:3-4

You thrive in a lot of ignorance sir. If you were to be pegged against a bushman, only God knows how much you will hoodwink them.

Below are a list of very peaceful groups who do without the Bible are not Jehovah Witnesses:

1. Bhutan (Nation)
Philosophy: Guided by Gross National Happiness rather than GDP.

Peaceful Traits: Minimal involvement in international conflicts, strong environmental ethics, and a Buddhist emphasis on compassion.

Violence/Crime: Very low crime and violence rates.

2. Iceland (Nation)
Global Peace Index: Ranked #1 most peaceful country by the Global Peace Index for over a decade.

Traits: No standing army, extremely low crime, strong rule of law, high levels of trust and gender equality.

3. Amish (Ethno-Religious Group in the U.S. and Canada)
Traits: Nonviolent, reject modern weapons and politics, follow strict pacifist Christian teachings.

Conflict: Avoid even self-defense; focus on forgiveness and community harmony.

4. Tibetan Buddhists (Ethnic/Religious Group)
Philosophy: Deeply rooted in nonviolence and compassion under Buddhist teachings.

Traits: Historically a theocratic society focused on spiritual rather than military pursuits.

5. Hadza People (Indigenous Tribe in Tanzania)
Traits: One of the last remaining hunter-gatherer societies; known for egalitarian social structures and lack of hierarchical conflict.

Violence: Intra-group violence is very rare.

6. Costa Rica (Nation)
Traits: No military since 1948; focuses on education, healthcare, and environmental preservation.

Policy: Invests heavily in peaceful development and diplomacy.

7. Scandinavians (e.g., Norwegians, Swedes)
Traits: Countries like Norway and Sweden have high trust societies, low crime rates, and strong social support systems.

Foreign Policy: Generally pursue peace, humanitarian aid, and diplomacy.

Source: AI.

chieveboy:
I do not know.
You thrive in a lot of ignorance sir. If you were to be pegged against a bushman, only God knows how much you will hoodwink them.
Below are a list of very peaceful groups who do without the Bible are not Jehovah Witnesses:
1. Bhutan (Nation)
Philosophy: Guided by Gross National Happiness rather than GDP.
Peaceful Traits: Minimal involvement in international conflicts, strong environmental ethics, and a Buddhist emphasis on compassion.
Violence/Crime: Very low crime and violence rates.
2. Iceland (Nation)
Global Peace Index: Ranked #1 most peaceful country by the Global Peace Index for over a decade.
Traits: No standing army, extremely low crime, strong rule of law, high levels of trust and gender equality.
3. Amish (Ethno-Religious Group in the U.S. and Canada)
Traits: Nonviolent, reject modern weapons and politics, follow strict pacifist Christian teachings.
Conflict: Avoid even self-defense; focus on forgiveness and community harmony.
4. Tibetan Buddhists (Ethnic/Religious Group)
Philosophy: Deeply rooted in nonviolence and compassion under Buddhist teachings.
Traits: Historically a theocratic society focused on spiritual rather than military pursuits.
5. Hadza People (Indigenous Tribe in Tanzania)
Traits: One of the last remaining hunter-gatherer societies; known for egalitarian social structures and lack of hierarchical conflict.
Violence: Intra-group violence is very rare.
6. Costa Rica (Nation)
Traits: No military since 1948; focuses on education, healthcare, and environmental preservation.
Policy: Invests heavily in peaceful development and diplomacy.
7. Scandinavians (e.g., Norwegians, Swedes)
Traits: Countries like Norway and Sweden have high trust societies, low crime rates, and strong social support systems.
Foreign Policy: Generally pursue peace, humanitarian aid, and diplomacy.
Source: AI.

Chai! See human wisdom o!

My guy there is a big difference between someone who claims something and the one WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING it.

Which of those you mentioned could be found in all the countries of the world helping people everywhere to embrace peace?

Ọmọ each person is peaceful on his or her own when isolated but in reality the neighbor who visits you often to discuss how both of you can cohabit peacefully is the one ACTING IN LINE with what he claims not those claiming they are peaceful yet they can't impact others with what makes them peaceful.

You are here claiming you are spiritual and eagerly anticipating to chat with your people does that mean nobody else is spiritual?

Of course not. You are only WORKING TOWARDS achieving something which is ONENESS in thought.

Ọmọ that's what makes JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the only peaceful organization not just claiming something when you are not WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING IT GLOBALLY.

MrPresident1:
ánimal

What have I been preaching since I joined this forum?

🤣🤣🤣I have always known you to make logical leaps that astonish the mind! Such Leaps are as clueless as the mind that brought about them😅! Even monkeys can't make such leaps🤔, you are really one of a kind😁!

MaxInDHouse:
Chai! See human wisdom o!

My guy there is a big difference between someone who claims something and the one WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING it.

Which of those you mentioned could be found in all the countries of the world helping people everywhere to embrace peace?

Ọmọ each person is peaceful on his or her own when isolated but in reality the neighbor who visits you often to discuss how both of you can cohabit peacefully is the one ACTING IN LINE with what he claims not those claiming they are peaceful yet they can't impact others with what makes them peaceful.

You are here claiming you are spiritual and eagerly anticipating to chat with your people does that mean nobody else is spiritual?

Of course not. You are only WORKING TOWARDS achieving something which is ONENESS in thought.

Ọmọ that's what makes JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES the only peaceful organization not just claiming something when you are not WORKING TOWARDS ACHIEVING IT GLOBALLY.

On one hand people have achieved peace without JW. Their model can be studied and applied to places of conflict. If they are evangelical like JW, they would roam the earth doing what you do.

JWs effort is proven to not be effective in that it had not helped any known group, nation nor itself. As an organization, conflicts and controversies had risen.

Here is JW's story:

A man gathered some people telling them tales of how while he was in Wakanda, he could jump over a mile. The people were awestruck at this. One man however was not hoodwinked, he told the man to pretend he was in Wakanda and jump for them to see.

chieveboy:
On one hand people have achieved peace without JW. Their model can be studied and applied to places of conflict. If they are evangelical like JW, they would roam the earth doing what you do. JWs effort is proven to not be effective in that it had not helped any known group, nation nor itself. As an organization, conflicts and controversies had risen.
Here is JW's story:
A man gathered some people telling them tales of how while he was in Wakanda, he could jump over a mile. The people were awestruck at this. One man however was not hoodwinked, he told the man to pretend he was in Wakanda and jump for them to see.

You're not getting it my friend!

Jehovah's Witnesses have gathered people from all races just as Isaiah and Micah prophesied! Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1


They have used the Bible to teach them what God wants for mankind! Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2

And the result of this teaching is people from different countries throughout the earth (including people from the world's most racist nations) have learned to put hurtful things behind them and divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

This means if everyone on this planet is a JW there won't be anyone picking up weapons in support of a motion which all those people you claim are peaceful will do in support of someone they chose as leader!

chieveboy:
Your point on me not having seen these characters hence not having existed is like you saying since I have not my father's father, then he did not exist. How elementary could that reasoning be?

It gets more alarming when you include people like Napoleon and Hitler in the list who existed in the era of cameras. It does things to our sense of 'nawa o'.

See, how you prove you are Liar and a person who loves Lies and Deceits

Every reasonable person can see that my point was to see whether you could tell us the Truth and give us conclusive proof of persons everyone whom we all know that they had Truly died eg Napoleon, Hitler, Hammurabi, Mohammed.

I will now add Abacha, Adisa, Atagha, Junior Pope etc (at least we now have cameras today) whether you have seen any of them living on the earth after they died.

So it is fraudulent of you to change the question into whether I asked if your grandfather existed, because you already know that you are speaking lies on this reincarnation sheet

GOD IS THE TIMING.

MaxInDHouse:
You're not getting it my friend!

Jehovah's Witnesses have gathered people from all races just as Isaiah and Micah prophesied! Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1


They have used the Bible to teach them what God wants for mankind! Isaiah 2:3; Micah 4:2

And the result of this teaching is people from different countries throughout the earth (including people from the world's most racist nations) have learned to put hurtful things behind them and divert their resources into production of food and information materials, stop producing buying selling and using of weapons and vow never to raise weapons against their fellowman. Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

Which people or nation adopted JW principles on tribal, ethnic, national or any level and achieved peace? Give a name please.

This means if everyone on this planet is a JW there won't be anyone picking up weapons

You are not getting it. It is not working for JW itself, how do you expect it would work for the world?

You keep mentioning "picking weapons" as if those are where conflicts arises from. You clearly do not know the cause of conflicts. For you to deal with a problem, you must know and avoid its cause.

Imagine all peoples not taking medication for mental illnesses and other diseases which helps sanity and well-being, where are you getting peace?

I have given you list of nations, tribes and groups who do without JW's principles and have achieved the end result of what JW has apparently failed at, lets assume JW is a tribe, has it achieved peace within itself as a group like the others I gave you?

WE MUST CONTEND WITH CLIMATE CHANGE.

chieveboy:
Which people or nation adopted JW principles on tribal, ethnic, national or any level and achieved peace? Give a name please.

This is why i asked you from the onset:

Do you believe the Bible?

According to that book faith in God is not a possession of any nation or tribe {2Thessalonians 3:2} this means there is never going to be a nation where all the people there will agree together on faith but individuals from different nations will come out {Isaiah 2:2; Micah 4:1} and join the global family of faith irrespective of their backgrounds they will break free from sentiment and nationalism {John 8:32} to form a global family of peace! Isaiah 2:4; Micah 4:3

chieveboy:
You are not getting it. It is not working for JW itself, how do you expect it would work for the world?

Can you mention a case where members of Jehovah's Witnesses join in any conflict?

chieveboy:
You keep mentioning "picking weapons" as if those are where conflicts arises from. You clearly do not know the cause of conflicts. For you to deal with a problem, you must know and avoid its cause.

Humans will always have a reason to get annoyed or offended but what i'm telling you is that when a person is offended JWs will use what Jesus taught us to calm the person instead of taking sides, that's where all others failed woefully because they will take sides in support of their own.

chieveboy:
Imagine all peoples not taking medication for mental illnesses and other diseases which helps sanity and well-being, where are you getting peace?

How is taking medication related to picking up weapons in support of war?

chieveboy:
I have given you list of nations, tribes and groups who do without JW's principles and have achieved the end result of what JW has apparently failed at, lets assume JW is a tribe, has it achieved peace within itself as a group like the others I gave you?

JW is a global family of peace where the members have emerged from countries around the world and there has never been a case where JWs lose our sanity to support any race or tribe in conflicts.

All those people you mentioned will still pick up weapons against people in other lands so their so called "peace" is useless if it only works within a location! John 4:23-24