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Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ:
Maximus692:
Jesus already told us you people will call us a cult:

“A student is not above his teacher, nor a slave above his master. It is enough for the student to become as his teacher, and the slave as his master. If people have called the master of the house Be·elʹze·bub, how much more those of his household? Matthew 10:24-25

Your type in the first century called Jesus a cultist because his disciples must follow him like his slaves {Luke 17:10} who have no option! Luke 9:23

So you're just fulfilling what Jesus said about his modern day true disciples the JWs! smiley
But it is not "you people" calling JW a cult. It is people who know them inside-out and current JW"s. See below

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Maximus692(m): 7:41pm On May 22, 2025
QuinQ:
But it is not "you people" calling JW a cult. It is people who know them inside-out and current JW"s. See below
Why do you like deceiving yourself? smiley

If someone is currently a JW and at the same time claiming JW is a cult what do you think about such a person? cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Gabrielshow24: 7:49pm On May 22, 2025
QuinQ:
But it is not "you people" calling JW a cult. It is people who know them inside-out and current JW"s. See below
😂I still dey wonder how the Jews of Jesus' time called him a cultist—By the way, " No such record !" In terms of morality, He had an impeccable character and wanted us to be wise as serpents 😁and not brain-dead👀😂😂😂. Also, Such diversions are useless and achieve nothing because all can see through them! They do not address the cult like nature of the organization 😔.

Somebody say... Zombies🧟!
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 8:03pm On May 22, 2025
Maximus692:
Why do you like deceiving yourself? smiley

If someone is currently a JW and at the same time claiming JW is a cult what do you think about such a person? cheesy
I think such a person is like this person below:
"We have made friendships and attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave"
"We cannot bear the loss, disappointment, and sorrow our leaving will cause ourselves and our loved ones"


Gabrielshow24:
😂I still dey wonder how the Jews of Jesus' time called him a cultist—By the way, " No such record !" In terms of morality, He had an impeccable character and wanted us to be wise as serpents 😁and not brain-dead👀😂😂😂. Also, Such diversions are useless and achieve nothing because all can see through them! They do not address the cult like nature of the organization 😔.

Somebody say... Zombies🧟!
No mind them

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Maximus692(m): 9:28pm On May 22, 2025
QuinQ:
"We have made friendships and attachments that will be forever forbidden if we leave"
"We cannot bear the loss, disappointment, and sorrow our leaving will cause ourselves and our loved ones"
Evidence they are not thinking right i am ready to trash anybody or group of persons so far they are truly a cult so this person is deceiving himself!wink
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 10:33pm On May 22, 2025
Maximus692:
Evidence they are not thinking right i am ready to trash anybody or group of persons so far they are truly a cult so this person is deceiving himself!wink
Well, this person below was in it for 55 years.
I don't think you know better than him.
He called it a CULT.

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Maximus692(m): 5:53am On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
Well, this person below was in it for 55 years. I don't think you know better than him. He called it a CULT.
So Pharisees knows better than Jesus shey? cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 6:06am On May 23, 2025
Maximus692:
So Pharisees knows better than Jesus shey? cheesy
Jesus is God. Pharisees were men
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Maximus692(m): 6:21am On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
Jesus is God. Pharisees were men
NO!
Jesus always meditate on God's word all his life {Psalms 1:1-3} unlike Pharisees (your type) who meditates on politics as your most active section here that's what makes him wiser. Psalms 119:99
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 6:33am On May 23, 2025
Maximus692:
NO!
Jesus always meditate on God's word all his life {Psalms 1:1-3} unlike Pharisees (your type) who meditates on politics as your most active section here that's what makes him wiser. Psalms 119:99
Instead of dropping all these numbers (John 32:2'5), why not (Amos 26:11-14) follow the advice (Proverbs 42:34-37) in your quote below (Jude 3:7-9)

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:43am On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
Instead of dropping all these numbers (John 32:2'5), why not (Amos 26:11-14) follow the advice (Proverbs 42:34-37) in your quote below (Jude 3:7-9)
Jesus can't be God because God doesn't pray (solicit) for help!
That's what training the mind to THINK means! cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 6:46am On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Training the mind to THINK! cheesy
Exactly. Not memorize numbers then run to elder or governing board when it comes time to think!
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:47am On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
Exactly. Not memorize numbers then run to elder or governing board when it comes time to think!
cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 6:50am On May 23, 2025
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 6:52am On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
smiley wink cheesy grin angry sad shocked cool huh tongue lipsrsealed undecided kiss cry
MaxInDHouse:
Jesus can't be God because God doesn't pray (solicit) for help!
That's what training the mind to THINK means! cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Emusan(m): 8:40am On May 23, 2025
Maximus692:
So in what group are those interested in the word of your God so that we can see how well they are doing?
They are in Christ Group called Christian.

See how well Jehovah's Witnesses are doing throughout the globe! wink
Only this?

I can provide times two of these about people's negative comments about Jehovah Witness on this same forum.

I know whenever you see those comments you always turn a blind eyes or called it fake.

Not only that from your own mouth you have made a statement about how other JWs are suspicious about another.

Just look at this two screenshots about Catholic. I guess do you believe the people who made these remarks?

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:10pm On May 23, 2025
Emusan:
They are in Christ Group called Christian. Only this?
I can provide times two of these about people's negative comments about Jehovah Witness on this same forum.
I know whenever you see those comments you always turn a blind eyes or called it fake. Not only that from your own mouth you have made a statement about how other JWs are suspicious about another. Just look at this two screenshots about Catholic. I guess do you believe the people who made these remarks?
Christians who don't have any standard that is unique to be proud of. smiley
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 12:42pm On May 23, 2025
[quote author=MaxInDHouse post=135473462][/quote]How do you know God doesn't pray?
Asking questions like this is how original thinking starts, not by mindlessly writing verse numbers or robotically following JW governing board.
Once you ask the question, you then realize you don't really know and that you really don't understand much.
True wisdom starts with these quotes below

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 12:44pm On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
How do you know God doesn't pray?
Do you know the meaning of prayer? cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 12:47pm On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Do you know the meaning of prayer? cheesy
Do you know the meaning of God? cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:13pm On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
Do you know the meaning of God? cheesy
GOD means SUPREME BEING so it's illogical saying the one who is SUPREME pray (solicit) to anyone for help! undecided
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by QuinQ: 3:26pm On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
GOD means SUPREME BEING so it's illogical saying the one who is SUPREME pray (solicit) to anyone for help! undecided
Aahh, but you don't know the full nature of God, you're actually incapable of grasping the full nature of God. How do you know He can't pray to Himself - even some mere humans pray to their "higher self" (which is still themselves)
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 3:34pm On May 23, 2025
QuinQ:
Aahh, but you don't know the full nature of God, you're actually incapable of grasping the full nature of God. How do you know He can't pray to Himself - even some mere humans pray to their "higher self" (which is still themself)
See the highlighted.
Guy this is not politics where lying makes you special among your type o! cheesy
Go and educate yourself! wink

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m):
Instead of learning from childhood with JWs he chose to start deceiving himself out of arrogance.

God can pray to himself! cheesy

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Emusan(m): 4:17pm On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Christians who don't have any standard that is unique to be proud of. smiley
The standard people are proud of is That os Christ.

See how he went silent with that evidence cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 4:41pm On May 23, 2025
Emusan:
The standard people are proud of is That os Christ.
Fighting and killing fellow worshipers due to worldly politics shey?

You try! cheesy
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Emusan(m): 4:53pm On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
Fighting and killing fellow worshipers due to worldly politics shey?

You try! cheesy
Lol...but the same screenshot you've been frolicking with is the same I posted.

Why changing mouth grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by MaxInDHouse(m): 5:41pm On May 23, 2025
Emusan:
Lol...but the same screenshot you've been frolicking with is the same I posted.
Why changing mouth grin cheesy grin cheesy grin
NO it's not the same standard you said:

Emusan:
The standard people are proud of is That os Christ.
Christ taught his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone {Matthew 5:43-48} and to be prepared to lay down their lives for their fellow believers! John 13:34-35

So if a religion approves fighting and killing among adherents then they don't have the same standard as of Christians! smiley

Re: If Jesus Is God, Why Did He Say 'pray Our Father'? by Emusan(m): 5:57pm On May 23, 2025
MaxInDHouse:
NO it's not the same standard you said:



Christ taught his disciples never to raise weapons against anyone {Matthew 5:43-48} and to be prepared to lay down their lives for their fellow believers! John 13:34-35

So if a religion approves fighting and killing among adherents then they don't have the same standard as of Christians! smiley
Always changing mouth when he got caught grin cheesy grin

I understand your pain grin cheesy grin
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