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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:56pm On May 29, 2025
IjeBos:
There isn't any real policy cohesion in the GOP because their goal isn't policy but to win elections using soundbites and political gimmicks.
So they go from day to day saying things that are then contradicted by the bills they pass.
And their supporters get whiplash trying to defend the opposite of what they defended yesterday.
Never a tangible policy.
They always need a scapegoat. Every time it’s someone. The blacks. The immigrants. The Chinese. The LGBTQ .

Discerning minds could see it from a mile away
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 7:57pm On May 29, 2025
cococandy:
Ah Jesu grin
grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 7:58pm On May 29, 2025
Maeve7:
grin
I want to think I can never surprised anymore yet they still manage to surprise me
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 8:11pm On May 29, 2025
cococandy:
I want to think I can never surprised anymore yet they still manage to surprise me
I assume the worst but hope for the best and they shatter my hopes mercilessly grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
Budaatum, basilico, Raumdeuter, ono, Zendi. This video encapsulates why we prefer living in Western countries. In our culture, we lack a concept of maintenance, which is exactly why farms are struggling in South Africa.

You tend to blame the white man for sabotage. We leave our country to study abroad, and more often than not, we hesitate to return because we know that the knowledge we have gained will not be utilized to improve our country due to corruption and other selfish factors.

When I say we are not yet ready to govern ourselves or fully prepared for independence, this is precisely my perspective. You cannot add to or take away from this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn_ok0gnL-8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3mYmRaGOw
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Konkoja: 8:44pm On May 29, 2025
https://youtube.com/shorts/MdyCJZbYZ5o?si=KIZso1_0VGnKW4it

You can't be working for or supporting the Liar in Chief and not be a liar yourself.
Caroline, see your life 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 9:01pm On May 29, 2025
cococandy:
Ah Jesu grin
Let me join you laugh grin grin grin
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 9:08pm On May 29, 2025
armyofone:
Let me join you laugh grin grin grin
He said they will consult him for cost saving measures grin

Would’ve made more sense to build the cost savings into the bill so that it won’t become another political brouhaha in the near future but what do I know?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:33pm On May 29, 2025
benalvino3:
God revealed the truth to them;
Did you not say its a fairy tale? If that's true, no God revealed anything and we are talking about a story in a book, likely written by ancient men who by nature were anti-feminists. And if that's the case, one must consider the years of programming some have done with the book.

I put it to you that in order to enslave people you must have more knowledge (power) than them for starts, and you must deprive those you enslave of that knowledge least they acquire it and rebel against you.

https://oaklandliteracycoalition.org/literacy-by-any-means-necessary-the-history-of-anti-literacy-laws-in-the-u-s/

https://www.britannica.com/event/Bantu-Education-Act

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/almajiri-a-legacy-gone-bad-in-nigerias-north/183887

benalvino3:
It’s like saying not to have sex without protection, but FAFO. Now that you have HIV
If Adam had died when he ate the fruit of knowledge I would agree with the above, but in the case of Adam it was more like saying not to have sex without protection or you will turn into stone, since Adam did not die as he was told he would if he ate the fruit of the tree he was told not to eat.

The God in that narrative lied, but I guess you can't admit that least you burn in hell.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 9:45pm On May 29, 2025
benalvino3:
That's the part you don't understand. Adam and Eve had eternal life,
Pull the other one, why don't you. Adam was 130 years old when he was kicked out of the Garden, which showed he was only willing to obey his master for that long, or rather, had to because it took that long for Eve to have had enough of slaving.

Point is, Adam never asked for any eternal life, and I don't think eternal life is even worth it if it meant eternal naked ignorant slavery. Arguing otherwise is like claiming Nigeria would have been better off it it had remained colonised today, or the blacks in America and South Africa would have been better of if they had remained slaves and apartheided respectively.

Some may indeed like the little they have as slaves, but some of us would trade die for our freedom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV-fKSbe92U


https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/19304942_screenshot20211030173535_jpeg7b7036d3fc64c74d6a91f769e7622369
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
budaatum:
Did you not say its a fairy tale? If that's true, no God revealed anything and we are talking about a story in a book, likely written by ancient men who by nature were anti-feminists. And if that's the case, one must consider the years of programming some have done with the book.

I put it to you that in order to enslave people you must have more knowledge (power) than them for starts, and you must deprive those you enslave of that knowledge least they acquire it and rebel against you.

https://oaklandliteracycoalition.org/literacy-by-any-means-necessary-the-history-of-anti-literacy-laws-in-the-u-s/

https://www.britannica.com/event/Bantu-Education-Act

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/almajiri-a-legacy-gone-bad-in-nigerias-north/183887
You don’t need to possess superior knowledge in order to enslave people. The slaves sold at Badagry to white men for umbrellas and bottles were not necessarily less intelligent than their captors.
Are you suggesting that women are not intelligent? They saw a book that subjugated them, written by men, and they decided to follow it. There are various religions besides Christianity, and somehow, all of them seem to be anti-women. Even in the animal kingdom, there appears to be a bias against female animals. Perhaps that is how Nature operates: men provide, lead, and protect, while women follow and nurture.

budaatum:
If Adam had died when he ate the fruit of knowledge I would agree with the above, but in the case of Adam it was more like saying not to have sex without protection or you will turn into stone, since Adam did not die as he was told he would if he ate the fruit of the tree he was told not to eat.

The God in that narrative lied, but I guess you can't admit that least you burn in hell.
So why didn't you agree? Adam died, didn’t he? You might argue that he didn’t die instantly, but is that really the point? If I shoot you and you die a day or two later, does that mean guns don’t kill?
Besides, God was also talking about spiritual death, not just physical death. So in a profound sense, it happened right then and there. And I'd argue the consequence was immediate. It was satan that was the liar there.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 10:07pm On May 29, 2025
Konkoja:
https://youtube.com/shorts/MdyCJZbYZ5o?si=KIZso1_0VGnKW4it

You can't be working for or supporting the Liar in Chief and not be a liar yourself.
Caroline, see your life 🫣🫣🫣🫣🫣
The thing that bothers me the most is that she lies and knowingly lies in such ridiculous ways everyday while wearing that huge cross around her neck.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
budaatum:
Pull the other one, why don't you. Adam was 130 years old when he was kicked out of the Garden, which showed he was only willing to obey his master for that long, or rather, had to because it took that long for Eve to have had enough of slaving.

Point is, Adam never asked for any eternal life, and I don't think eternal life is even worth it if it meant eternal naked ignorant slavery. Arguing otherwise is like claiming Nigeria would have been better off it it had remained colonised today, or the blacks in America and South Africa would have been better of if they had remained slaves and apartheided respectively.

Some may indeed like the little they have as slaves, but some of us would trade die for our freedom.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QV-fKSbe92U


https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/19304942_screenshot20211030173535_jpeg7b7036d3fc64c74d6a91f769e7622369
Adam was given dominion over everything in the garden. He had control over everything, so who is he a slave to? The master who ensured he did not sweat to have all he wanted?

He had a choice to have it all or to build his own with sweat and blood, even if it meant dying trying. He chose the latter.

Nigeria might have been better off had it remained colonized. I am not joking when I say this. Out of nearly 70 black nations worldwide, none are truly developed.

What are the odds that not a single black nation has developed after gaining independence over 50 years ago? Were these nations even developed before colonization?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 10:34pm On May 29, 2025
IjeBos:
The thing that bothers me the most is that she lies and knowingly lies in such ridiculous ways everyday while wearing that huge cross around her neck.
She’s everything wrong with their party in human form. Such a vile being
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:28pm On May 29, 2025
cococandy:
She’s everything wrong with their party in human form. Such a vile being
She embodies it.
The lying. The fake in your face Christianity.
I just wonder why people don't see that.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 11:30pm On May 29, 2025
benalvino3:
Nigeria might have been better off had it remained colonized. I am not joking when I say this. Out of nearly 70 black nations worldwide, none are truly developed.
Benalvino and Bemeruca in a nutshell.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
IjeBos:
Benalvino and Bemeruca in a nutshell.
what do when someone tells you they consider themselves inferior? You take their word for it
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:53pm On May 29, 2025
IjeBos:
Benalvino and Bemeruca in a nutshell.
Out of nearly 70 predominantly Black nations, can you name one that is developed or not a 3rd world country? Most of these countries gained their independence 50 to 60 years ago. Now, if we compare that to Singapore, what differences stand out? What prevents us from achieving similar progress? We have more resources.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 11:57pm On May 29, 2025
cococandy:
what do so when someone tells you they consider themselves inferior? You take their word for it
Why aren’t you doing care support work in Nigeria instead of the U.S.? You don’t live in Nigeria, yet you want us to believe that you believe in Nigeria. If that’s true, why did you leave for a better life here in the US?

Aren't you supposed to block me? Hopefully, this triggers you to block me.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:13am On May 30, 2025
benalvino3:
Out of nearly 70 predominantly Black nations, can you name one that is developed or not a 3rd world country? Most of these countries gained their independence 50 to 60 years ago. Now, if we compare that to Singapore, what differences stand out? What prevents us from achieving similar progress? We have more resources.
You might want to open up a history book or ask chatpgt to explain to you what was happening in Nigeria prior to 1960. In a way with gravitas of course.

My fault you should understand it as your mind is still colonized and hasn't gotten it's independence yet.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:14am On May 30, 2025
cococandy:
what do so when someone tells you they consider themselves inferior? You take their word for it
I hear it over and over and still can't believe it.
It's so tragic.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:13am On May 30, 2025
I bet Raumdeuter and Bemeruca are ecstatic with this appointment.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 3:18am On May 30, 2025
IjeBos:
You might want to open up a history book or ask chatpgt to explain to you what was happening in Nigeria prior to 1960. In a way with gravitas of course.

My fault you should understand it as your mind is still colonized and hasn't gotten it's independence yet.
Nothing was happening in Nigeria; they are not building railways, roads, power stations, or water boards. All of these structures were constructed under the administration of the Colonial authorities. The nation's wealth is being looted by so-called politicians who show no regard for the future.

All that they built for us, we are unable to sustain. To this day, we still haven't gotten gutters right. There are no established plans or standards for constructing infrastructure.

When I growing up in Port Harcourt, we had running water. There was no need for boreholes. Today, the government cannot provide something as basic as running water anywhere in the country. Many people would be surprised at how often streets are dug up, causing months of inconvenience as pipes are buried, only for the job to be abandoned halfway through, leaving no running taps.

This was built for use by the Colonial Authority, but a Country that cannot maintain Infrastructure is a failed state.
The first modern water supply scheme was established in 1915 in Lagos, Maybe they built one in Port Harcourt before Lagos, but that is by the by. Today, there is no Government board bringing water to any kitchen or bathroom in any home in both Lagos and Port Harcourt.

What are the chances that 65 Black countries remain underdeveloped after over 50 years of independence? The same railways constructed in England during the era were being built in Nigeria are still functional today, whereas ours are not.

According to you, we were constructing ports, power plants, hospitals, schools, and railways before colonization. So I am still asking you, when are you moving to any black Nation? Why are you not living in Nigeria?

The water authorities established in Lagos, Port Harcourt, and elsewhere could not be properly maintained; they are all dead. This is a nation where the President himself would not utilize any of the health facilities for medical check-ups
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:51am On May 30, 2025
budaatum:
Did you not say its a fairy tale? If that's true, no God revealed anything and we are talking about a story in a book, likely written by ancient men who by nature were anti-feminists. And if that's the case, one must consider the years of programming some have done with the book.

I put it to you that in order to enslave people you must have more knowledge (power) than them for starts, and you must deprive those you enslave of that knowledge least they acquire it and rebel against you.

https://oaklandliteracycoalition.org/literacy-by-any-means-necessary-the-history-of-anti-literacy-laws-in-the-u-s/

https://www.britannica.com/event/Bantu-Education-Act

https://www.aa.com.tr/en/world/almajiri-a-legacy-gone-bad-in-nigerias-north/183887


If Adam had died when he ate the fruit of knowledge I would agree with the above, but in the case of Adam it was more like saying not to have sex without protection or you will turn into stone, since Adam did not die as he was told he would if he ate the fruit of the tree he was told not to eat.

The God in that narrative lied, but I guess you can't admit that least you burn in hell.
Jesus spoke in parables so we can extend the interpretation of various bible stories Bible also has lots of symbolism .
God had told Adam to "Go ye forth, be fruitful. Multiply and fill the whole world".
Where does the tree of knowledge and sex come in , if they was to fill the world.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:05am On May 30, 2025
benalvino3:
Adam was given dominion over everything in the garden.
The dominion Adam had over the garden was no where close to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground” that was given to the image of God who was also paid a whole lot more than Adam was paid, including the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.

benalvino3:
Nigeria might have been better off had it remained colonized. I am not joking when I say this.
The fact that you are not joking is what makes this sad. If you read what you wrote carefully and stretched a bit, you would hear yourself say you would rather be a slave than a free man so long as you are fed. This is the ignorant mentally amongst most blacks. They refuse to pluck the fruits of tree of knowledge and emancipate themselves because they are programmed to think knowledge will kill them.

It's however not only a black people thing. Britain was enslaved to Rome for like 1500 years until an Eve gave King Henry knowledge to eat which opened his eyes so he could see to tell Rome to go do one. We Nigerians will do the same when we too finally eat fruits of knowledge and our Eyes open and we see. And thankfully, it wouldn't take us 1500 years because time moves faster now.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:10am On May 30, 2025
basilico:
God had told Adam to "Go ye forth, be fruitful. Multiply and fill the whole world".
Show me where God told Adam to "Go ye forth, be fruitful. Multiply and fill the whole world".
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
benalvino3:
Budaatum, basilico, Raumdeuter, ono, Zendi. This video encapsulates why we prefer living in Western countries. In our culture, we lack a concept of maintenance, which is exactly why farms are struggling in South Africa.

You tend to blame the white man for sabotage. We leave our country to study abroad, and more often than not, we hesitate to return because we know that the knowledge we have gained will not be utilized to improve our country due to corruption and other selfish factors.

When I say we are not yet ready to govern ourselves or fully prepared for independence, this is precisely my perspective. You cannot add to or take away from this.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn_ok0gnL-8


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wf3mYmRaGOw
Our excuse is that when we go study abroad the white man offers better pay than back home, resulting in brain drain
On the other issue of colonialism, I look at Taiwan and Korea, They were also colonized but are highly developed today. A black dominated country , Trinidad and Tobago performs better than other black nations.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by budaatum: 4:21am On May 30, 2025
benalvino3:
You don’t need to possess superior knowledge in order to enslave people.
Yes you do need to possess superior knowledge in order to enslave people. Ignorant people don't make ships to travel hundreds of miles with guns they made to go enslave anyone. And if the people you want to enslave have superior or at least equal knowledge, it will show in their ability to resist being enslaved.

benalvino3:
So why didn't you agree? Adam died, didn’t he? You might argue that he didn’t die instantly, but is that really the point? If I shoot you and you die a day or two later, does that mean guns don’t kill?
If you shoot me and I die 10 years later, it could still be said that you killed me with your gun, but if you say I will die if you shoot me and I live another 10 years after you shot me, most might conclude you are either a lousy shooter or your gun is fake.

Regardless, Adam was very very fruitful after he was supposed to die but instead gained independence, for not only did he bear Seth and Cain and Abel and a few others, his descendants are said to have populated the earth. If that's death, kill me now please.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 4:36am On May 30, 2025
budaatum:
Yes you do need to possess superior knowledge in order to enslave people. Ignorant people don't make ships to travel hundreds of miles with guns they made to go enslave anyone. And if the people you want to enslave have superior or at least equal knowledge, it will show in their ability to resist being enslaved.


If you shoot me and I die 10 years later, it could still be said that you killed me with your gun, but if you say I will die if you shoot me and I live another 10 years after you shot me, most might conclude you are either a lousy shooter or your gun is fake.

Regardless, Adam was very very fruitful after he was supposed to die but instead gained independence, for not only did he bear Seth and Cain and Abel and a few others, his descendants are said to have populated the earth. If that's death, kill me now please.
Typical budaatum. How was he supposed to multiply and fill the earth.He was surrounded by animals and we want to assume they were having sex and multiplying in numbers before his very own eyes, he wasn't stupid to know that they would both multiply in the same way as those animals.. I'm ruling out that Adam and Eve didn't know about sex.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 4:58am On May 30, 2025
budaatum:
The dominion Adam had over the garden was no where close to “Be fruitful and increase in number; fill the earth and subdue it. Rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky and over every living creature that moves on the ground” that was given to the image of God who was also paid a whole lot more than Adam was paid, including the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. This is talking about Adam and Eve. There is nothing to argue here. You are caught up in a paradox now.

budaatum:
The fact that you are not joking is what makes this sad. If you read what you wrote carefully and stretched a bit, you would hear yourself say you would rather be a slave than a free man so long as you are fed. This is the ignorant mentally amongst most blacks. They refuse to pluck the fruits of tree of knowledge and emancipate themselves because they are programmed to think knowledge will kill them.

It's however not only a black people thing. Britain was enslaved to Rome for like 1500 years until an Eve gave King Henry knowledge to eat which opened his eyes so he could see to tell Rome to go do one. We Nigerians will do the same when we too finally eat fruits of knowledge and our Eyes open and we see. And thankfully, it wouldn't take us 1500 years because time moves faster now.
Even as they were draining the country at that time, they were also building infrastructure that actually worked. While I can’t predict what might have happened if they had remained, I can reflect on what has transpired since they left.

The last time I traveled to Bayelsa, 60% of the road was unusable. This is the cast for the majority of the country. We are still struggling with the roads on major highways connecting cities.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 5:12am On May 30, 2025
basilico:
Our excuse is that when we go study abroad the white man offers better pay than back home, resulting in brain drain
On the other issue of colonialism, I look at Taiwan and Korea, They were also colonized but are highly developed today. A black dominated country , Trinidad and Tobago performs better than other black nations.
Yes, but Blacks are the second-largest race after East Indians. It's a mixed country.
8% are a mixture of European and Asian descent
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by armyofone(m): 5:24am On May 30, 2025
cococandy:
He said they will consult him for cost saving measures grin

Would’ve made more sense to build the cost savings into the bill so that it won’t become another political brouhaha in the near future but what do I know?
Let them continue to play and fill their pockets while the people who are buying into the whole fakery are excited of mediocrity and bare minimum and the "nothing there to see job" they claim to be doing grin
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