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SeeAllen:
Tinubu is using Abure to destroy LP.

Before you said he was using Apapa,now you said he's using Abure,I'm sure next you will say he's using Obi himself,yeye person.

Obi primary interest is to become the present, so saying he brought fame to one party is irrelevant.

Secondly, how will I be confident in a man that can't work towards the benefit of a party? He was in PDP...he left to join APGA and we all knew the popular statement he made when he joined. He went back to PDP....he couldn't handle the pressure in the party the gave him the platform to govern Anambra for 8yrs.

Last minute he joined LP, we all knew the story. Now LP is in crisis, a person that wants to be a president of the federal Republic of Nigeria can't even solidify a party we all believed will be the new opposition.

Now people are putting blame on APC, planting people in LP. Simple question if OBI is president won't he have APC candidates in his Senate or when he was the governor of Anambra where there no opposition in his assembly?

Obi is not fit to be president, even Tinubu with all his alleged wealth and experience is finding it difficult.

The major problem of Nigeria to me is not Party, it's just people....

bentenny:
Abure where is the exposure you wanted to make about Obi or should we wait for another month for it?

This is yet another proof that Abure is working very hard for Tinubu!

Let's even assume without conceding that Abure was the 'authentic' chairman of labour party,as an opposition party,how many times has he or his spokesperson made authoritative statements against the mismanagement and ineptitude of this current administration's handling of security and economy?

The answer is none!

The only time they make statements is in response to the man that brought them fame!

Who knew LP before the 2023 election?
Before the 2023 election,attaining 30k votes would have been an achievement for LP!

In all these,I blame the role that INEC as an umpire have played in this unnecessary squabble at LP!

Why would it take INEC,a supposed electoral umpire,more than a month to review a simple supreme court document if they are not complicit?


This is why the clamour of all Nigerians should be to intensify electoral reforms esp the removal of the authority of the president to select and appoint INEC officials!

Obi primary interest is to become the present, so saying he brought fame to one party is irrelevant.

Secondly, how will I be confident in a man that can't work towards the benefit of a party? He was in PDP...he left to join APGA and we all knew the popular statement he made when he joined. He went back to PDP....he couldn't handle the pressure in the party the gave him the platform to govern Anambra for 8yrs.

Last minute he joined LP, we all knew the story. Now LP is in crisis, a person that wants to be a president of the federal Republic of Nigeria can't even solidify a party we all believed will be the new opposition.

Now people are putting blame on APC, planting people in LP. Simple question if OBI is president won't he have APC candidates in his Senate or when he was the governor of Anambra where there no opposition in his assembly?

Obi is not fit to be president, even Tinubu with all his alleged wealth and experience is finding it difficult.

The major problem of Nigeria to me is not Party, it's just people....

Those who eyes and can see
Who has ears and that hear
Knew who is lying and where the LP problems originated from.
TINUBU name is so sweat and not tongue twist to call.
Until one once tell himself the truth, that status quo will remain.

shonepa:
Obi primary interest is to become the present, so saying he brought fame to one party is irrelevant.

Secondly, how will I be confident in a man that can't work towards the benefit of a party? He was in PDP...he left to join APGA and we all knew the popular statement he made when he joined. He went back to PDP....he couldn't handle the pressure in the party the gave him the platform to govern Anambra for 8yrs.

Last minute he joined LP, we all knew the story. Now LP is in crisis, a person that wants to be a president of the federal Republic of Nigeria can't even solidify a party we all believed will be the new opposition.

Now people are putting blame on APC, planting people in LP. Simple question if OBI is president won't he have APC candidates in his Senate or when he was the governor of Anambra where there no opposition in his assembly?

Obi is not fit to be president, even Tinubu with all his alleged wealth and experience is finding it difficult.

The major problem of Nigeria to me is not Party, it's just people....

All I keep reading from ignorant folks like you is the way and manner you keep approbating and reprobating at the same time!
Nothing new....same old stale and regurgitating lines as if you recited them before pouring them on nairaland in form of copy and paste!

Firstly,it's president not 'present'!
You said Obi bringing fame to LP is irrelevant....but it is very much relevant and a timely reminder to the likes of Abure and his gang of thieves that nobody would have known of LP without Obi and that's the undeniable truth!

Secondly,there is no constitution that bars Obi from moving from one party to another in search of a vehicle to be elected!
Changing parties doesn't dim the competence and character of a qualified leader!
If Obi had an option of being an independent candidate,he would have taken that route instead of looking for parties that are nothing but bargaining platforms with little or no principle!
Saying you don't trust him is purely your opinion which I find inconsequential!

Your third point is laughable and a pathetic case of forgetfulness!
Obi was governor of Anambra state under a party that wasn't even as strong as PDP and we all know how he singlehandedly handled a house of assembly made up of a 100% PDP members!

Lastly,you claim Obi isn't fit to be president without a single proof!
The problem with you and your likes is that your definition and by extension,reasoning of governance is badly skewed!
So I don't blame you!
So the question should be.....what are the requirements to be fit to be a president in your opinion?

Tinubu isn't finding anything difficult because what he is currently doing now is what he had promised that he will do!
He said Buhari did 'well' and he will continue from where Buhari stopped!
So why would you expect anything better from such personality?

I agree with you that Nigerians are the problem!
If nigerian citizens can stand together as one and demand accountability from our leaders,things would have been better!
However,we have allowed ethnic bigotry and religious sycophancy to derail us!

obembet:
O-d-e what is this as to do with Yoruba

By their fruit we shall know them.

You just don't need to tell anybody that you are one.


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Copy and paste? From where exactly?

Your first point about Obi's fame, how is it helping Labour Party today? Even Kenneth Okonkwo said Peter Obi is not fit to be the president.

Secondly no constitution bars decamping, and many complain about how major players are decamping to APC. The reason they all have is the party is crumbling. A party is all about interest not a one man job and if OBI allegedly claims he can fix Nigeria in 2 years why has he not fixed his current party?

Thirdly, definitely it's was a sleep, he definitely was with APGA in Anambra, but still he fled the party after making major promises.

Lastly, my likes? This way you divide the nation just to make an opinion is just a low blow...

Further more he said recently that he did not owe anybody in Anambra when he left, he under informed Rufai by saying he paid civil servants and contractors, why he's he not talking about his domestic and external debts?

At this point, vote for Obi, but ain't trust that man to cast my vote for him. We all have right to vote. I served In Anambra during his tenure, I witness his govt first hand, not hearsay.

bentenny:
All I keep reading from ignorant folks like you is the way and manner you keep approbating and reprobating at the same time!
Nothing new....same old stale and regurgitating lines as if you recited them before pouring them on nairaland in form of copy and paste!

Firstly,it's president not 'present'!
You said Obi bringing fame to LP is irrelevant....but it is very much relevant and a timely reminder to the likes of Abure and his gang of thieves that nobody would have known of LP without Obi and that's the undeniable truth!

Secondly,there is no constitution that bars Obi from moving from one party to another in search of a vehicle to be elected!
Changing parties doesn't dim the competence and character of a qualified leader!
If Obi had an option of being an independent candidate,he would have taken that route instead of looking for parties that are nothing but bargaining platforms with little or no principle!
Saying you don't trust him is purely your opinion which I find inconsequential!

Your third point is laughable and a pathetic case of forgetfulness!
Obi was governor of Anambra state under a party that wasn't even as strong as PDP and we all know how he singlehandedly handled a house of assembly made up of a 100% PDP members!

Lastly,you claim Obi isn't fit to be president without a single proof!
The problem with you and your likes is that your definition and by extension,reasoning of governance is badly skewed!
So I don't blame you!
So the question should be.....what are the requirements to be fit to be a president in your opinion?

Tinubu isn't finding anything difficult because what he is currently doing now is what he had promised that he will do!
He said Buhari did 'well' and he will continue from where Buhari stopped!
So why would you expect anything better from such personality?

I agree with you that Nigerians are the problem!
If nigerian citizens can stand together as one and demand accountability from our leaders,things would have been better!
However,we have allowed ethnic bigotry and religious sycophancy to derail us!

jmoore:
Always kissing the lies.



331,163 votes from Edo makes them headquarters of Obidient? How many votes did Obi get from Imo state, Anambra, Lagos?


Simple statistics, you no know..

Question has been asked. Will Obi stay or run from the party as usual?

Max24:
Question has been asked. Will Obi stay or run from the party as usual?

Will Tinubu defeat terrorism, poverty etc in Nigeria?

That should be your primary concern.

jmoore:
Will Tinubu defeat terrorism, poverty etc in Nigeria?

That should be your primary concern.

Which Govt has fougth terrorism like Tinubu? Both Jonathan and Buhari never achieved what Tinubu has achieved in their first 2 years. Meanwhile, someone always hide at home every Monday in Anambra. Someone who could not control disagreement in his party wants to handle national insecurity and some people see him as Messiah. Funny lot.

SeeAllen:
Tinubu is using Abure to destroy LP.

So you are saying that Tinubu is using Abure? He is not using Apapa again?

shonepa:
Copy and paste? From where exactly?

Your first point about Obi's fame, how is it helping Labour Party today? Even Kenneth Okonkwo said Peter Obi is not fit to be the president.

That was in response to Abure not you!
If Obi leaves,LP goes back to default state
Obi's fame to LP is a reminder to Abure that LP needs Obi more than Obi needs LP!
Kenneth Okonkwo just like every nigerian is entitled to his opinion about the fitness of Obi which could be subjective but not factual!
So is that your reason for also concluding that Obi is unfit due to a personal opinion of Kenneth?
You still haven't listed your parameters for a personality to be fit to be a president!

shonepa:
Secondly no constitution bars decamping, and many complain about how major players are decamping to APC. The reason they all have is the party is crumbling. A party is all about interest not a one man job and if OBI allegedly claims he can fix Nigeria in 2 years why has he not fixed his current party?

Atleast you agree there is no constitution hindering anyone from moving to a party of their choice!
We all know the reason why major players are moving to APC and it has absolutely nothing to do with ideological similarities but the fear of being rigged out!

Very good question!
Most if not all political parties in Nigeria lack proper ideologies and are mostly used as vehicles or platforms to negotiate for monetary gains by small minded party members esp in LP!

If some of those at LP formenting unnecessary crisis had a forward thinking mindset,the plan by Obi and Otti to have an all inclusive national convention which will usher in competent hands from ward to national level to pilot the affairs of the party,would have been overwhelmingly welcome!

However,these small minded jokers led by an obviously financially motivated Abure and by extension a supposed umpire INEC have ensured the crisis will still linger ad infinitum!

At this stage,there is nothing more Obi would have done as the party structure isn't what you take by force but through a law abiding process which is one of the reasons why you are questioning his leadership fitness!

However,I would prefer a law abiding leader like Obi to a law breaking tyrant like Wike!
We must advocate that our leaders remain law abiding even when the wheels of justice seems to be grinding slowly!

shonepa:
Thirdly, definitely it's was a sleep, he definitely was with APGA in Anambra, but still he fled the party after making major promises.

Allegations that haven't been substantiated!
He had his reasons for leaving Apga probably due to the fact that the party had no national appeal and were satisfied with playing local politics!
Today,it's obvious Obi has been vindicated as APGA is only comfortable playing local politics in Anambra state!

shonepa:
Lastly, my likes? This way you divide the nation just to make an opinion is just a low blow...

Yes your likes!
Your stale narratives!
Nothing personal!

shonepa:
Further more he said recently that he did not owe anybody in Anambra when he left, he under informed Rufai by saying he paid civil servants and contractors, why he's he not talking about his domestic and external debts?

In that same interview,Obi challenged anyone to prove he was owing and Rufai also confirmed that till date,nobody has brought forward any documentation to prove Obi was owing!
We should learn to separate allegations or low-key propaganda from facts!

shonepa:
At this point, vote for Obi, but ain't trust that man to cast my vote for him. We all have right to vote. I served In Anambra during his tenure, I witness his govt first hand, not hearsay.

You are entitled to your opinions and by extension your choice!
Interestingly,Most corp members who also served there during his time as governor had good things to say about Obi esp in the area of security, education and health!

So what's Obi's plan? LP in crisis, PDP same. Coalitions dead on arrival. This is not 2023 he's going to see a party that will welcome em.

That's the reality......going to TV stations won't hand em the ticket.

bentenny:
That was in response to Abure not you!
If Obi leaves,LP goes back to default state
Obi's fame to LP is a reminder to Abure that LP needs Obi more than Obi needs LP!
Kenneth Okonkwo just like every nigerian is entitled to his opinion about the fitness of Obi which could be subjective but not factual!
So is that your reason for also concluding that Obi is unfit due to a personal opinion of Kenneth?
You still haven't listed your parameters for a personality to be fit to be a president!


Atleast you agree there is no constitution hindering anyone from moving to a party of their choice!
We all know the reason why major players are moving to APC and it has absolutely nothing to do with ideological similarities but the fear of being rigged out!

Very good question!
Most if not all political parties in Nigeria lack proper ideologies and are mostly used as vehicles or platforms to negotiate for monetary gains by small minded party members esp in LP!

If some of those at LP formenting unnecessary crisis had a forward thinking mindset,the plan by Obi and Otti to have an all inclusive national convention which will usher in competent hands from ward to national level to pilot the affairs of the party,would have been overwhelmingly welcome!

However,these small minded jokers led by an obviously financially motivated Abure and by extension a supposed umpire INEC have ensured the crisis will still linger ad infinitum!

At this stage,there is nothing more Obi would have done as the party structure isn't what you take by force but through a law abiding process which is one of the reasons why you are questioning his leadership fitness!

However,I would prefer a law abiding leader like Obi to a law breaking tyrant like Wike!
We must advocate that our leaders remain law abiding even when the wheels of justice seems to be grinding slowly!


Allegations that haven't been substantiated!
He had his reasons for leaving Apga probably due to the fact that the party had no national appeal and were satisfied with playing local politics!
Today,it's obvious Obi has been vindicated as APGA is only comfortable playing local politics in Anambra state!


Yes your likes!
Your stale narratives!
Nothing personal!


In that same interview,Obi challenged anyone to prove he was owing and Rufai also confirmed that till date,nobody has brought forward any documentation to prove Obi was owing!
We should learn to separate allegations or low-key propaganda from facts!


You are entitled to your opinions and by extension your choice!
Interestingly,Most corp members who also served there during his time as governor had good things to say about Obi esp in the area of security, education and health!

shonepa:
So what's Obi's plan? LP in crisis, PDP same. Coalitions dead on arrival. This is not 2023 he's going to see a party that will welcome em.

That's the reality......going to TV stations won't hand em the ticket.

Leave that to him!
Let's leave political issues for politicians!
What should be paramount and a source of worry to citizens should be about how to reform INEC!
If INEC reforms esp improving on their independence do not happen immediately,we will still be struck with the same issue we faced in 2023!

SeeAllen:
Tinubu is using Abure to destroy LP.

Shut up your mouth, when lamidi Apapa was calling out Abure for embezzlement, you this useful idiots were saying Tinubu is using him as a Yoruba man. You all supported Abure. Abure was living a low life before but all of a sudden he became so rich. I know his beautiful house he built in Benin and he was named after the street. Exotic cars are inside the compound. My cousin live close to his house,so don't argue with me on that. He made so much money from foolish obidients who were donating up and down. Obi lack leadership skill. Abure that you people supported before and now that he criticize your Messiah, he is now sponsored by Tinubu. When will you people accept your flawns.

jmoore:
Always kissing the lies.



331,163 votes from Edo makes them headquarters of Obidient? How many votes did Obi get from Imo state, Anambra, Lagos?


Simple statistics, you no know..

Why are you dening the fact that you obidients tag and endorsed Edo state as the headquarters of obidients movement. It's a know fact. I understand your shifting goal post cos you know in 2027, it can't happen again. Our brothers and sisters in Edo south who are from the capital city, who ever they endorsed, always influence voting pattern but with the current governor who is Batified and Edo north under the leadership of senator Oshiomohole. Things won't remain the same. Our deputy governor is popular in his Edo south and the state in general. South south is already Batified. You can keep decieving yourself but by God's grace in 2027, reality will down on you people.

Mr Wike said you people should go and d?e

Have not been in the country for a while now, electoral reform? Open ur eyes....elected lawmakers know this, but we took focused on Presidential elections. Let's start from local govt....there is hiarachy if it's not balanced, then there is no way forward.

We all want the best for the country, but majority dont do the work, religion don make ppl dey find miracle, no one can perfect our economy in 8yrs. The damage is much.

bentenny:
Leave that to him!
Let's leave political issues for politicians!
What should be paramount and a source of worry to citizens should be about how to reform INEC!
If INEC reforms esp improving on their independence do not happen immediately,we will still be struck with the same issue we faced in 2023!

shonepa:
Have not been in the country for a while now, electoral reform? Open ur eyes....elected lawmakers know this, but we took focused on Presidential elections. Let's start from local govt....there is hiarachy if it's not balanced, then there is no way forward.

We all want the best for the country, but majority dont do the work, religion don make ppl dey find miracle, no one can perfect our economy in 8yrs. The damage is much.

My eyes are wide open and our electoral system is arguably one of our biggest problems because thats a platform through which leaders from president to LGA chairmen are elected!

The problem with most of us including emergency activists is that we are too engrossed in amplifying the very ills in our society or how politicians are seemingly too powerful for us to take out forgetting that if we all demand in one voice,the implementation of the electoral reforms,the national assembly will be compelled to do so even if it might lead to their political death sentence!
Implementation of the electoral laws will open doors to better leaders that will alter the fortunes of our failing system!
Imagine an electoral system that puts the power of a national assembly member on the palm of the citizens or electorates?

The country you currently reside decided to do what was right many years ago by demanding for electoral reforms that ensured competent leaders were elected in that country....that's why things are so organized that you decided to stay or even work there!

We have spoken so much about our problems,it's time to proceed with the solutions and electoral reforms are the first steps to tackling the ills in our society!

Good point on paper no doubt. Our rulers don't even treat us pet, their pets are the ones dey empower with chicken change (millions) while dey keep the billions to dem selves.

They don't treat their citizens like humans....they treat us like they are doing us a favor Everytime. Why would dey care to implement an electoral reform?

That's why we need to come together and do the needful for us to be represented properly.

But we all know citizens are hungry, they rather go for a short term pay to fight/vote for a corrupt ruler. Our political party system is rotten. They infiltrate and destroy any competition.

Nigeria will work.....but the year......On God

bentenny:
My eyes are wide open and our electoral system is arguably one of our biggest problems because thats a platform through which leaders from president to LGA chairmen are elected!

The problem with most of us including emergency activists is that we are too engrossed in amplifying the very ills in our society or how politicians are seemingly too powerful for us to take out forgetting that if we all demand in one voice,the implementation of the electoral reforms,the national assembly will be compelled to do so even if it might lead to their political death sentence!
Implementation of the electoral laws will open doors to better leaders that will alter the fortunes of our failing system!
Imagine an electoral system that puts the power of a national assembly member on the palm of the citizens or electorates?

The country you currently reside decided to do what was right many years ago by demanding for electoral reforms that ensured competent leaders were elected in that country....that's why things are so organized that you decided to stay or even work there!

We have spoken so much about our problems,it's time to proceed with the solutions and electoral reforms are the first steps to tackling the ills in our society!