₦airaland Forum

omenka:
People like Mr Macaroni still consider themselves too woke to see the handwriting on the wall abd act accordingly. We saw through their gimmicks right from the onset.

jaxxy:
when have u ever held tinubu or southwest leaders like eleyi dapo accountable?

Look at what's happening in the country and yet many of u can't tell tinubu the truth.

casualobserver:
There you go gaslighting again. You are the ones who have always had a tribal agenda from the beginning. Some of us have always known but the rest are finally wising up to you and are calling you out!

Your biggest error was backing a man with such a woeful track record, a man you all despised when he was governor with 99% votes. Eventually the outsiders that supported your movement start to see that the 99% can’t all be stuuuupppeeeed. So why are they supporting this man……..because of his tribe! Their agenda was never about competence but tribe!

I said it that his need to be in the news will be his undoing because the non Ibos who didn’t have enough time to really get to know the man before the elections will now have ample time to see through him.

I have said it several times in this forum. We are not against an Ibo president but back someone of substance: Soludo, Umahi, Chidoka, you said no. We warned that backing Obi will set you back 30yrs, you said no. Now he can’t win in 2027 he won’t even get the 6m votes he got in 2023 and in 2039, the SS have stolen a March on you.

If you continue with this mindset, you may not see an Ibo president in your lifetime!

WizardOfNG:
100% correct. The other sad but important truth, which must be mentioned, is that most Nigerians are mentally lazy and do not like to read or embrace research unless forced to do so.

That was what was responsible, especially in the youth class, for the belief Obi was somehow a 'fresh messiah" different to the "ruinous old boys" of Tinubu, Atiku, Kwankwaso etal.

Whereas Obi has been in public administration and politics from even the days of Abacha.

The truth, for those who can even do 30 minutes of research online, would have shown, in 2020 to 2023, that Obi is in fact worse than most of the "ruinous old boys" because records verify the fact he is undoubtledly the worst Governor of Anambra post 1999 and is one of the worst Nigerian political leader in general with no history of leading anything or anyone to success.

Now the truth is out there. Obi is exposed and naked. The 'woke' Yoruba Obidient of 2023 who have now left the Obideint camp after the election are considerable in number meaning Obi can forget Lagos in 2027.

Ditto North central and SS. Obi is finished and not even a remove threat to PBAT, in my opinion, per 2027.

Believeintruth:
Heyyy hold on there and stop telling lies. Fajuyi was already marked for death by the northern soldiers, it was never about him offering to die beside Ironsi. According to Danjuma Fajuyi was a marked man because he supported Ademoyega and Ifeajuna in the Jan 66 coup and offered logistical advice. Victor Banjo was executed alongside his igbo fellow conspirators like Ifeajuna, Agbam and Alale, Soyinka's views were criticised not his personality. So these lies of yours no dey sell again.

richie240:
Nwokem, u are still beating about the bush biko.
Somebody ask u wetin u chop, u say d sky is blue. Abeg how d 2 take rhyme?

Go back to my post and answer d question I asked you then we can continue with the 'dialogue'.

Daalu!

nairalanda1:
Still in denial.

The truth is, you just want to chop money. That's why you can't and will never understand me.

Also, better learn to look for the ticks on your body, instead of bothering about other people's ticks.

And don't get angry when people point out the ticks on your body.

richie240:
Is this thesis the answer to my question??
I been think say u go school nau!

godhelo737:
Make una leave obidients and Peter obi alone naa

Believeintruth:
Heyyy hold on there and stop telling lies. Fajuyi was already marked for death by the northern soldiers, it was never about him offering to die beside Ironsi. According to Danjuma Fajuyi was a marked man because he supported Ademoyega and Ifeajuna in the Jan 66 coup and offered logistical advice. Victor Banjo was executed alongside his igbo fellow conspirators like Ifeajuna, Agbam and Alale, Soyinka's views were criticised not his personality. So these lies of yours no dey sell again.

jaxxy:
U cannot use apc and pdp scenarios to generalise every opposition or u will cancel out everybody. u have to learn from the mistakes in judgement and apply that to critically access others going forward based on right markers not blanket generalisation which doesn't help anyone.


Also supporters are different from members or leaders. Don't judge a party's principle on its supporters base cos anybody can support u. judge the leadership.

DMerciful:
Obidients this, Obidients that....for goodness sake 200 persons were killed in Benue yet Obidients is your problem

Christistruth02:
It was you who didn't understand Peter Obi from the Start !

Just admit it!

Difrent:
Then which other scenario have we witnessed that will be used and example? Npn UPN ? I didn't live through them so I cant say, was saying what I know.
Do you think it's a lie or exaggeration when El rufai first and later Peter Obi said the problems in opposition parties was caused by APC? Infact, APC learnt that kind of politics from Obj..... While he held sway, he was funding small small parties that will on the eve of election "collapse" their structure into PDP.... Seems you don't know the kind calculations, permutations and combinations that takes place during elections.

In Nigeria o, forget it, all opposition are just looking for a way to get to power and do their own looting.
Even PO may not be aware this is the intention of his backers (which I don't believe, hes a part of the old guard) and we will end up with the Buhari situation where even though nobody called him a thief but those around him were bleeding the nation and he couldn't do anything about it, even his girlfriend Sadia claimed she fed school kids while they were at home and nothing happened...... Forex arbitrage made some overnight millionaires..... All in all, change in government is just an avenue for a new set of thieves to replace the old ones

richie240:
Hehehehehe....u are yet to answer the question, Nwokem.
Deflecting won't help ur casted cause!

jaxxy:
The deflecting started from u. I'm only repeating my initial question I asked u that u refused to answer ajala.

SIRTee15:
Show me where Danjuma said Fajuyi was marked for death.
Danjuma that said even Ironsi wasn't meant to be killed but the original plan was to arrest him and take him to Lagos.

Ironsi that wanted to leave for Lagos that same evening but Fajuyi begged him to stay overnight in Ibadan. The same reason Fajuyi insisted he should be arrested with him. He kept asking them, 'why arrest him in ibadan?'

Honestey:
So, it's Soyinka's view that was caricatured with CORN in his hand and Tinubu's cap on all over the media?

richie240:
I'm happy you DIDNT disagree with the truth that more Yorubas voted obi than iggbos voted Tinubu- (d same Yorubas that u now see as moles in obidiency/LP)

Na d koko be that!
Dassol!

jaxxy:
U are narrating history like it determines the future? So if someone's father was a criminal it means his children will automatically be criminals?

or If someone's family background were poor his future generations will automatically be poor?

That may be a possibility but it may also be different.. it has happened many times.

The future isn't determined by ur past but ur current actions and choices. This is simple logic..

if u want to defend ur master tinubu that ok cos its ur right but don't call it the truth or facts.

Difrent:
May.
I agree
But that's not a guarantee.

See my brother, Politics is different from the way you people have made it a petty thing....and that's why you are getting it wrong. We just dey share ideas, but you think you have to blackmail me because you don't like the president
And shut me down because I have a different opinion from you?
So I say to you, support whoever or whatever you want but please abeg don't you ever try to force your opinions on me or anybody, it's a free world and we are in a democracy where theres freedom of choice and association

naptu2:
Dr Ope Banwo led the Naija Lives Matter structure within the Obidients Movement. He developed an app for the movement. However he has had a few clashes with Obidients.

His first clash occured when he was asked to pay some money to join a Peter Obi Support Group and to collapse his Naija Lives Matter structure into the support group. He refused. That was in 2022.

His second clash occurred after the elections when he tweeted that the elections were over and he was going to reconcile with his friends that he argued with during the campaigns (he reconciled with Segalink). He said that everybody should move on since elections were over. Obidients attacked him for this message.

This present clash occurred because he has been away for Twitter for a while and he came back to see that Obidients were attacking Akin Olaoye (Akin Tollgate) and accusing him of being a mole. He condemned the attacks, but he was also attacked by Obidients.


Dr. Ope Banwo @opebanwo

https://x.com/opebanwo/status/1932138611228438973?t=OQ9N0p5v3S5vg9BXGGj4Kw&s=19[/quote]Instead of addressing the strong concerns of the Yorubas and others who constitute that group of Obi supporters, the tribal irredendists and paid online troll farms among them relentlessly chose to deflect and ignore the genuine concerns of tribal bigotry and cyberbullying raise by these men against them, which shows that many Obi supporters NEVER had one drop of democratic ideals in them. It was these same groups of rabid Obi supporters (largely from the tribe east of river Niger) who shamefully went on (from 2023 right into 2024) openly calling on NL and other major Internet platforms for a military coup to be staged against President Tinubu by well-known NL monikers still operating here with some of them still getting rewarded with their thread posts being pushed to the NL frontpage when they should have been penalized with lengthy NL bans by the Mods for violating NL rules due to anti-democratic activities here.

It's good that Ope Banwo (a trained U.S. Attorney) and others have woken up to reality. These are some of the many Yoruba folks who [based off of the FACT that even when Chief Jeremiah Obafemi Awolowo, GCFR, SAN was active politically from the early 1950s, Yorubas didn't largely vote in one direction for him because of personal principles and individual needs] made Peter to win Lagos State by just 3,000 votes while Tinubu came second on his home turf [despite laying the foundations for the emergence of iconic Lagos infrastructural projects such as the Lekki Deep Sea Port in Ibeju-Lekki, Lekki Free Trade Zone, LFTZ, the relocation of Dangote Petrochemical Refinery to Lagos State, the establishment of several key Lagos State Agencies, etc], Obi wouldn't have won Lagos if the LARGELY Yoruba Xtian subset of voters hadn't voted for him because of the so-called Muslim-Muslim talk and more.

The highly IRRESPONSIBLE cyberbullying by these Peter Obi supporters of Mercy Johnson and her Edo-born husband because of their links to the APC, Joke Silva-Jacob, Pastor Paul Adefarasin, Prof Wole Soyinka, Femi Kuti, and many more using massive disinformation and tribalistic posts that many discerning folks like me noticed on NL in the 2023 Presidential election cycle coming from the Ibo elements on multiple NL threads aided by paid ipob online troll farms (spread around Europe, North America, Nigeria, South Africa, etc, using well-known monikers) that the "BBC Global Disinformation Team" investigative video of 2022 had EXPOSED for deliberately spreading massive disinformation and toxic hate speech with tools given to them such as free laptops, free mobile phones, and free Internet data, including free salaries to destabilize Nigeria and trigger interethnic wars with FAKE news on Facebook, X, YouTube, and other social platforms.

People must learn to respect one another due to the vast regional cultural differences and sensitivities in a multiethnic society such as Nigeria. The consequences will be dire for ignoring these cultural sensitivities because the different subgroups of Yorubas historically have a culture of NOT turning the other cheek, or forgive and don't forget wrongs done to them. This is why Ogun the Yoruba deity of "War and Iron" was and still is venerated. Prof. Wole Soyinka emphasized on this fact in a Netflix documentary "Bigger Than Africa" showing the documented exploits of many Yorubas who revolted and led the liberation struggles in Latin America during the enslavement of Africans in Brazil, Cuba, etc. Ask the Ibadan folks (who are famous for their republican ideals and warrior mentality being historically warrior descendants) for instance who will be laughing with you but take revenge at the right time of their choosing if you are obstinate in not making amends to your overbearing and disrespectful ways.

jaxxy:
Offcourse nobody should force anything on anyone but we can condemn what's wrong like aoc condemned Jonathan and his wife.

we can promote who we believe it better like u promoted buhari even tho he was a failure and fruad. Lol

Guyman02:
Attending the burial of elders and paying last respects to the dead in Igbo land is a tradition, it doesn't matter whatever you think about their son Nnamdi Kanu

Ekpeitut:
It has become clear that the APC’s latest tactic is to use random, unverified social media accounts to falsely label the Obidient movement as hateful. These posts are then amplified by their media allies in a desperate attempt to discredit Peter Obi and distract from the real issues Nigerians are facing.

We must not fall for this cheap manipulation.

The Obidient movement stands for accountability, progress, and peaceful democratic engagement. We do not speak through anonymous trolls, nor do we engage in hate. Every political movement has bad actors—but it is intellectually dishonest and cowardly to use fringe comments to smear an entire group or its leader.

Stay focused. Stay peaceful. And don’t let propaganda define our voice.

#Obidient #PeterObi #RejectPropaganda #NigeriansDeserveBetter