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Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by dalass(f): 8:25am On Jun 18, 2025
owobokiri:
Obviously, all the so called nuclear non proliferation talks between the West and Iran were nothing but smokescreens to buy time in order to make sure that Iran has no nuclear stockpiles before the west attacked. It was the same charade they organised in Iraq. Iran has herself to blame anyways. Ayatollah had all the time in the world to get himself the ultimate bomb. Iran has already been ostracised, was encircled militarily by hostile forces, with serious economic sanctions. The only option to stave off any sort of attacks was to have some nukes. If Iran had nuclear bombs, Isreal would never have attacked..

Under Obama, the west promised Iran all sorts of billions to drop their nuke ambitions during different diplomatic engagements. They used the slimy Qataris to lure in the Iranians. The Iranians agreed. When you look at that agreement, you can't help but wonder why the West seemed desperate to grovel at the feet of the Iranians with billions. But the reason is very clear now; the west were not sure of how far the Iranians have gone and needed time to make sure there was not nukes before bombing Tehran to oblivion..

These events also prove that democracy in the West is highly dramatised.. It is "contracted".. If all these Western leaders will continue to pursue the same plan laid down more than a decade ago by their predecessors, irrespective of their much vaunted ideological differences along party and national lines, it means that there are more entrenched sophisticated powers that determine who rules different western capitals and when such rulers should leave office. I mean, it was Obama that started the delay tactics with Iran in the name of "negotiations". But it is Trump, an avowed anti Obama Republican that is carrying out the final bombings..

From the rush to leave Afghanistan, to the orchestrated Gaza invasion of Isreal (which the Mossad is laughably claiming to not be aware of the plannings), to Syria and Hezbollah, Iran was always the main target..
I don't blame them. Iran has historically demonstrated that they have unstable leaders whom only want to bomb any neighboring country they hate into oblivion.

From Bible days, Iran was Persia, they took Israel as slaves and destroyed whatever was left, so recently, they were saying Israel had no right to exist and boasted that as soon as they had the means, they will annihilate Israel.

If na you, you go wait for an everlasting enemy to destroy your nation againhuh Israel is fighting for its survival abegn undecided
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Willie2015: 8:25am On Jun 18, 2025
owobokiri:
Obviously, all the so called nuclear non proliferation talks between the West and Iran were nothing but smokescreens to buy time in order to make sure that Iran has no nuclear stockpiles before the west attacked. It was the same charade they organised in Iraq. Iran has herself to blame anyways. Ayatollah had all the time in the world to get himself the ultimate bomb.
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Too much epistle..
Let Iran embrace peace..
U cant be funding Hezbollah ...Houthis and Hamas...
And expect peace in your backyard..
Qatar, Oman, UAE, Kuwait. Egypt Saudi are all peaceful Arab countries...
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by phorget(m): 8:30am On Jun 18, 2025
Mirasteel:
Why can't it be possible? their were Jews in Israel before the creation, before those Jews from Europe came pleading for Palestinians to house them, we all know what happened afterwards.

The Jews were living with Muslims and Christians peacefully before those European Jews came after world war.
There was Philistine(Palestine) and there were Isreal, but some people will always tell you that the Palestinians accommodated the Israelis as if there were no land of Isreal. The Israelis came back to possess their land after the war and they rebuilt their burnt land. Ofcourse when the Israelis were away due to the holocaust the Palestinians would had encroached their lands which they had to relinquish when the Israelis returned.

How can you claim a total extermination a whole nation without any soul survival? I really want someone to prove me wrong on this one.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Emperordynasty: 8:40am On Jun 18, 2025
All I know is that Almighty God in Heaven Will continue to Bless the Nation of Isreal
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by IyfeNamikaze(m): 9:02am On Jun 18, 2025
Bullet4thiefnub:
See NAZI kwa , yes you know a lot about dirty work , your fathers invented dirty work and practiced it in Africans first and then the Jews , strangely Hitler counted the afghans and the Persians as pure aryans
This is false! Hitler didn't count the modern Persian as pure Aryans.
Hitler and other German Nazis made it clear that the modern Iranians were not considered to be pure Aryans. Speaking on Iranians, Hitler would later falsely assert: “Nations which did not rid themselves of Jews, perished. One of the most famous examples of this was the downfall of a people who were once so proud – the Persians [the old European name for Iranians].”

More crudely, Hitler would tell the German army command in 1939: “We will continue to stir up unrest in the Far East and in Arabia. We must think as Masters and see in these peoples at best lacquered half-apes, who want to feel the whip.”

Rosenberg wrote: “Once, the Persian king gave order to cut into the rock face of Behistun [in Iran] the following words: ‘I, Darius the Great King, King of Kings, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage’ Today the Persian muleteer [a person who drives a mule] pulls ahead soullessly by this wall: he represents thousands – culture and personality are born together with race and also die with it.”

In other words, ancient Iranians were superior “Aryans” while Iranians of today, like the “Persian muleteer” who was passing by, had lost that ancient glory by diluting their stock. As Motadel explains: “Most National Socialist ideologues agreed with the idea that ‘Aryans’ – in their attempt to cultivate the Orient – perished as a result of infiltration (Überfremdung) by ‘Semitic races’.”
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by VonSmallhausen: 9:15am On Jun 18, 2025
Who genuinely believes that this campaign will bring lasting peace in the Middle East??
This is how the removal of Sadam and Assad has only succeeded in making the region less stable. Lets wait and see what this new set of adventures will bring.

I am just glad I am not living there.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by IyfeNamikaze(m): 9:16am On Jun 18, 2025
owobokiri:
Obviously, all the so called nuclear non proliferation talks between the West and Iran were nothing but smokescreens to buy time in order to make sure that Iran has no nuclear stockpiles before the west attacked. It was the same charade they organised in Iraq. Iran has herself to blame anyways. Ayatollah had all the time in the world to get himself the ultimate bomb. Iran has already been ostracised, was encircled militarily by hostile forces, with serious economic sanctions. The only option to stave off any sort of attacks was to have some nukes. If Iran had nuclear bombs, Isreal would never have attacked..

Under Obama, the west promised Iran all sorts of billions to drop their nuke ambitions during different diplomatic engagements. They used the slimy Qataris to lure in the Iranians. The Iranians agreed. When you look at that agreement, you can't help but wonder why the West seemed desperate to grovel at the feet of the Iranians with billions. But the reason is very clear now; the west were not sure of how far the Iranians have gone and needed time to make sure there was not nukes before bombing Tehran to oblivion..

These events also prove that democracy in the West is highly dramatised.. It is "contracted".. If all these Western leaders will continue to pursue the same plan laid down more than a decade ago by their predecessors, irrespective of their much vaunted ideological differences along party and national lines, it means that there are more entrenched sophisticated powers that determine who rules different western capitals and when such rulers should leave office. I mean, it was Obama that started the delay tactics with Iran in the name of "negotiations". But it is Trump, an avowed anti Obama Republican that is carrying out the final bombings..

From the rush to leave Afghanistan, to the orchestrated Gaza invasion of Isreal (which the Mossad is laughably claiming to not be aware of the plannings), to Syria and Hezbollah, Iran was always the main target..
This is serious cope Lmao 🤣.
Do you know the major reason why the world doesn't trust Iran with nuclear armament? It's because they have been openly supporting Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthi, all terrorist organisation. And they have been openly chanting death to Israel, death to America. No one in their right senses would allow a government that have been openly chanting for their deaths to get anywhere close to a nuke, especially when these people have terrorist allies.

Furthermore, it's really funny you're blaming mossad for orchestrating the October 7 Hamas attack and trying to absolve Hamas, PIJ and their sponsors, Iran, of any blame. Victim blaming, that's all you people do — why did she wear those sexy dress? Does she not know that she would be sexually assaulted if she wore that?
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Agbegbaorogboye: 9:24am On Jun 18, 2025
Jonathan:
SEE NAZI TERRORISTS SUPPORTING TERRORISTS.
In terms of ratio, it's Israel that's taking the biggest lost and blows in this fight.

If this fight continues for a month, I'm very sure Israel won't be much different from Gaza.
How very sure are you grin grin

Between He-ran and Israel who is looking like Gaza presently
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by LoveJustice: 10:07am On Jun 18, 2025
Mirasteel:
The current jews aren't real Jews, they are all converts not the real people of israel and don't compare those holy people with the current zionist Jews, stop it.

Netanyahu also is from Europe and a revert, his ancestors are from Poland.
Waooh. So they were all exterminated during the Holocaust, without remnants. Please educate us. I want to know more.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by LoveJustice: 10:11am On Jun 18, 2025
Guestmale:
Who carried out DNA test on them that confirmed they aren't real Israel.
Maybe they were all killed during the Holocaust that there is no bloodline left.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by samuelson06(m): 10:59am On Jun 18, 2025
owobokiri:
Obviously, all the so called nuclear non proliferation talks between the West and Iran were nothing but smokescreens to buy time in order to make sure that Iran has no nuclear stockpiles before the west attacked. It was the same charade they organised in Iraq. Iran has herself to blame anyways. Ayatollah had all the time in the world to get himself the ultimate bomb. Iran has already been ostracised, was encircled militarily by hostile forces, with serious economic sanctions. The only option to stave off any sort of attacks was to have some nukes. If Iran had nuclear bombs, Isreal would never have attacked..

Under Obama, the west promised Iran all sorts of billions to drop their nuke ambitions during different diplomatic engagements. They used the slimy Qataris to lure in the Iranians. The Iranians agreed. When you look at that agreement, you can't help but wonder why the West seemed desperate to grovel at the feet of the Iranians with billions. But the reason is very clear now; the west were not sure of how far the Iranians have gone and needed time to make sure there was not nukes before bombing Tehran to oblivion..

These events also prove that democracy in the West is highly dramatised.. It is "contracted".. If all these Western leaders will continue to pursue the same plan laid down more than a decade ago by their predecessors, irrespective of their much vaunted ideological differences along party and national lines, it means that there are more entrenched sophisticated powers that determine who rules different western capitals and when such rulers should leave office. I mean, it was Obama that started the delay tactics with Iran in the name of "negotiations". But it is Trump, an avowed anti Obama Republican that is carrying out the final bombings..

From the rush to leave Afghanistan, to the orchestrated Gaza invasion of Isreal (which the Mossad is laughably claiming to not be aware of the plannings), to Syria and Hezbollah, Iran was always the main target..
When you're through with your analysis, tell Iran to stop supporting terrorism. Do you know that they have a hand in destabilizing this country through Boko Haram, ISWAP, herdsmen, etc.? Israel or the US should please go ahead and do everything humanly possible to strip Iran and other countries supporting terrorism. We are backing them with prayers.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by jonadaft: 11:03am On Jun 18, 2025
Agbegbaorogboye:
How very sure are you grin grin

Between He-ran and Israel who is looking like Gaza presently
Lol
Their dogs will always have one propaganda to spread
Show us the picture of the whole Israel and Tehran side by side today grin grin
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by mikeapollo: 11:21am On Jun 18, 2025
Mirasteel:
The current jews aren't real Jews, they are all converts not the real people of israel and don't compare those holy people with the current zionist Jews, stop it.

Netanyahu also is from Europe and a revert, his ancestors are from Poland.
That is all you know! Forcing people to ''convert'' them even when they do not want to be converted!
So where on earth are the real people of Israel? Where are the real Jews? Tell me which other country you have Hebrew speaking Jews on the earth!
Are you are who created them and put DNA in their body!
You sit behind a PC or an android phone and type rubbish about the heritage of a people who are old enough to be your great grand parents!
The land of Israel (Judea, Samaria, Jerusalem, etc) belongs to the Jews, long before Kings like David, Hezekiah, Solomon, etc. ruled. How can all that history be forgotten and then people only make reference to 1948? Monsense
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by RillJ(m): 11:25am On Jun 18, 2025
zinaunreal:
Israel is the terrorist here. No dey cap opata
Just like any one or group that kills the gun-trotting (sophisticated riffles) marauding Fulani 'herdsmen is/are termed terrorist(s) in Nigeria. Case of Sunday Jackson in Adamawa State is a good reference.

https://gazettengr.com/ozekhome-slams-supreme-court-for-affirming-death-sentence-on-adamawa-christian-farmer-who-defended-himself-against-killer-herdsman/

Meanwhile, group of terrorists can 'repent' at anytime and be absolved into the Nigeria Military because they are innocent.

Hamas, Hezbollah etc that terrorized countries in the middle East and beyond were just propagating Islam.

On the strength of the above, Israel may be termed the terrorist for attacking a terrorist government.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Agadinaagwuofe: 12:06pm On Jun 18, 2025
owobokiri:
Obviously, all the so called nuclear non proliferation talks between the West and Iran were nothing but smokescreens to buy time in order to make sure that Iran has no nuclear stockpiles before the west attacked. It was the same charade they organised in Iraq. Iran has herself to blame anyways. Ayatollah had all the time in the world to get himself the ultimate bomb. Iran has already been ostracised, was encircled militarily by hostile forces, with serious economic sanctions. The only option to stave off any sort of attacks was to have some nukes. If Iran had nuclear bombs, Isreal would never have attacked..

Under Obama, the west promised Iran all sorts of billions to drop their nuke ambitions during different diplomatic engagements. They used the slimy Qataris to lure in the Iranians. The Iranians agreed. When you look at that agreement, you can't help but wonder why the West seemed desperate to grovel at the feet of the Iranians with billions. But the reason is very clear now; the west were not sure of how far the Iranians have gone and needed time to make sure there was not nukes before bombing Tehran to oblivion..

These events also prove that democracy in the West is highly dramatised.. It is "contracted".. If all these Western leaders will continue to pursue the same plan laid down more than a decade ago by their predecessors, irrespective of their much vaunted ideological differences along party and national lines, it means that there are more entrenched sophisticated powers that determine who rules different western capitals and when such rulers should leave office. I mean, it was Obama that started the delay tactics with Iran in the name of "negotiations". But it is Trump, an avowed anti Obama Republican that is carrying out the final bombings..

From the rush to leave Afghanistan, to the orchestrated Gaza invasion of Isreal (which the Mossad is laughably claiming to not be aware of the plannings), to Syria and Hezbollah, Iran was always the main target..
What you failed to realize is that there would never be a time the Israelis will allow Iran to develop nuclear bomb, despite the sanctions if Ayatollah had gone ahead to enrich nuclear programme let alone develop bomb, the US and Israel would have attacked Iran earlier than now. The countries especially Israel had been monitoring the nuclear developmental stages and even made a presentation at UN few years ago that Iranian are already "crossing the red line". So the premise of your assertion is wrong that if they had developed earlier on that it would have stave off Israel, the truth is they would never had been a time the Israeli with the US would allow Iran to have a nuclear bomb.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by owobokiri(m): 12:27pm On Jun 18, 2025
Agadinaagwuofe:
What you failed to realize is that there would never be a time the Israelis will allow Iran to develop nuclear bomb, despite the sanctions if Ayatollah had gone ahead to enrich nuclear programme let alone develop bomb, the US and Israel would have attacked Iran earlier than now. The countries especially Israel had been monitoring the nuclear developmental stages and even made a presentation at UN few years ago that Iranian are already "crossing the red line". So the premise of your assertion is wrong that if they had developed earlier on that it would have stave off Israel, the truth is they would never had been a time the Israeli with the US would allow Iran to have a nuclear bomb.
That was because the Iranians made so much noise about their rocket and weapons capabilities. If they kept quiet and operated under the rather till they had nukes, most probably they would have succeeded without notice.

Libya was on the verge of having nukes and the west had no single iota of information about that untill Gaddafi himself made the revelation. Even china's first nuke test rook the west by surprise.

All the threats towards America and Isreal were responsible for the west and Isreal to fixate their intelligence apparatus on Tehran, thereby finding many stuffs that led to the situation we are in today
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Gerrard59(m): 1:20pm On Jun 18, 2025
phorget:
Why haven't they(the west) bombed Saudi Arabia or is Saudi Arabia a Nuclear state?
You people would always make it look like the west will just wake up one morning and start bombing any sovereign nation. Iran is simply not fit to own a Nuclear weapon cos they will be so quick to use it with just a little provocation.
Where is the WMD they said Iraq had? See the results of removing Gaddafi. How is Syria doing today?

I wish people understood that these Middle Eastern countries aren't entirely to be blamed. They just want to survive.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by FORWARDEVERLY: 3:07pm On Jun 18, 2025
This is why men should be leaders ..
I remember when that F O O L Angela merkel was leading...
Kudos to Israel
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Agadinaagwuofe: 4:22pm On Jun 18, 2025
owobokiri:
That was because the Iranians made so much noise about their rocket and weapons capabilities. If they kept quiet and operated under the rather till they had nukes, most probably they would have succeeded without notice.

Libya was on the verge of having nukes and the west had no single iota of information about that untill Gaddafi himself made the revelation. Even china's first nuke test rook the west by surprise.

All the threats towards America and Isreal were responsible for the west and Isreal to fixate their intelligence apparatus on Tehran, thereby finding many stuffs that led to the situation we are in today
I understand your point but building the facility and making the bomb will take a process, how they will be able to hide it till finishing is what may be difficult.. I remember the case of Cuba when Russians was building nuclear plant secretly, somehow Americans had to find out even though it's late.. I still believe such might still happen if Iran go that route.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by phorget(m): 4:39pm On Jun 18, 2025
Gerrard59:
Where is the WMD they said Iraq had? See the results of removing Gaddafi. How is Syria doing today?

I wish people understood that these Middle Eastern countries aren't entirely to be blamed. They just want to survive.
Hopefully the west will attack Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Indonesia, Malaysia and all other Asian countries soon.

You claim the west derives joy in attacking Asian countries without provocation but I'll tell you that the west will always act on intel, they may present a flimsy escuses but there are more to whatever you think you know.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by frog12: 5:44pm On Jun 18, 2025
i tell you, TRUMP was working with ISRAEL from the beginning. you should never trust him at all shocked shocked shocked shocked
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by JobAndVacancies: 6:06pm On Jun 18, 2025
Bullet4thiefnub:
See NAZI kwa , yes you know a lot about dirty work , your fathers invented dirty work and practiced it in Africans first and then the Jews , strangely Hitler counted the afghans and the Persians as pure aryans
imagine Germany also putting mouth in this issue when it forgot it's Adolf Hitler's Nazi slaughtered thousands of Jews grin
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by owobokiri(m): 6:37pm On Jun 18, 2025
Agadinaagwuofe:
I understand your point but building the facility and making the bomb will take a process, how they will be able to hide it till finishing is what may be difficult.. I remember the case of Cuba when Russians was building nuclear plant secretly, somehow Americans had to find out even though it's late.. I still believe such might still happen if Iran go that route.
The USSR was not building a nuclear device in Cuba then.
They simply deployed their submarines armed with nuclear bombs in order to ward off the American attempt to invade Cuba and remove Castro.

Though Castro and other leftist regimes in South America at that time wanted some kind of smoke from the USSR directed against the USA, Moscow perfectly understood the greater implications of a nuclear confrontation between two dominant global powers and rightly barked down.

You would expect the Americans to do so in Ukraine today, but they are piling on with support for the Ukrainians at the risk of instigating an unpredictable Russia to reach for all sorts dangerous options..
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Thomasankara(m): 7:15pm On Jun 18, 2025
[/color]chai🙄🙄🙄God forbid, na boko haram go just dey rule Nigeria with the threat of obtaining nuke, NA will be on its knee[color=#770077]
palsenator:
It is simple, a nuclear war head in the hand of Iran can find it way into the black market and to the hand of terrorists. You and I are not safe.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Gerrard59(m): 2:25am On Jun 19, 2025
phorget:
Hopefully the west will attack Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Indonesia, Malaysia and all other Asian countries soon.

You claim the west derives joy in attacking Asian countries without provocation but I'll tell you that the west will always act on intel, they may present a flimsy escuses but there are more to whatever you think you know.
Those countries are puppets in the grand scheme of things. Everyone should know this by now. It is Saudi Arabia that supports the Wahhabism ideology amongst Muslims in the West. That has been curtailed or reduced, but it (Saudi) now exports the same ideology to sub-Saharan African countries.

I made a post here months ago alluding that one of the reasons Qatar (the first and only ME country) could get a visa waiver status to the US is a thank you gift for revealing the secrets and inner-dealings of Hamas and Hezbollah.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Mirasteel: 8:02am On Jun 19, 2025
mikeapollo:
That is all you know! Forcing people to ''convert'' them even when they do not want to be converted!
So where on earth are the real people of Israel? Where are the real Jews? Tell me which other country you have Hebrew speaking Jews on the earth!
Are you are who created them and put DNA in their body!
You sit behind a PC or an android phone and type rubbish about the heritage of a people who are old enough to be your great grand parents!
The land of Israel (Judea, Samaria, Jerusalem, etc) belongs to the Jews, long before Kings like David, Hezekiah, Solomon, etc. ruled. How can all that history be forgotten and then people only make reference to 1948? Monsense
They are not real Jews and can never be real Jews, that land doesn't belong to them and it will never belong to them. Judaism is not zionism they are separate, real Jews aren't zionist.
Re: Israel Is Doing The Dirty Work For All Of Us - German Chancellor by Bullet4thiefnub: 2:42am On Jun 20, 2025
IyfeNamikaze:
This is false! Hitler didn't count the modern Persian as pure Aryans.
Hitler and other German Nazis made it clear that the modern Iranians were not considered to be pure Aryans. Speaking on Iranians, Hitler would later falsely assert: “Nations which did not rid themselves of Jews, perished. One of the most famous examples of this was the downfall of a people who were once so proud – the Persians [the old European name for Iranians].”

More crudely, Hitler would tell the German army command in 1939: “We will continue to stir up unrest in the Far East and in Arabia. We must think as Masters and see in these peoples at best lacquered half-apes, who want to feel the whip.”

Rosenberg wrote: “Once, the Persian king gave order to cut into the rock face of Behistun [in Iran] the following words: ‘I, Darius the Great King, King of Kings, an Aryan, having Aryan lineage’ Today the Persian muleteer [a person who drives a mule] pulls ahead soullessly by this wall: he represents thousands – culture and personality are born together with race and also die with it.”

In other words, ancient Iranians were superior “Aryans” while Iranians of today, like the “Persian muleteer” who was passing by, had lost that ancient glory by diluting their stock. As Motadel explains: “Most National Socialist ideologues agreed with the idea that ‘Aryans’ – in their attempt to cultivate the Orient – perished as a result of infiltration (Überfremdung) by ‘Semitic races’.”
You are mostly right , my Information was incomplete, it is far more complicated, I came across tons of literature on both side and I concluded that my earlier comment is not correct
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