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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
LordAdam16:
Everyone on the forum knows I'm pro-choice and I'm not a fan of the kooks who want to ban contraceptives.
Most Americans, and indeed most humans, are in the middle.
Contraceptives, okay. Third trimester abortion, not okay.

I'm also in favor of clean energy and don't mind universal healthcare.
Agree
I am in agreement, however, with a heck of a lot more of Trump populism axioms than Dem neoliberalism dogmas.

-Lord
And….lost me

You can’t be for all of the above and be for Trump. It’s ironic. Paradoxically. Mutually exclusive. Parallel. Insert other synonyms.

That’s exactly what I mean by getting so close to point and doing a hard swerve only two feet from getting it. Trump’s party CONSISTENTLY votes against those things you say you’re for. What are we doing here Adam?


About 3rd trimester abortions, no one is “FOR” it. 3rd trimester is 7th, 8th and 9th month. No pregnant woman is carrying a child that long and then changes their mind in the 7th month to opt for an abortion. If it ever happens it’s always for dire reasons and always a sorrowful event for the mom-to-be.

Those are talking points designed to muddy the waters. Republicans went from stirring up sentiments about 3rd trimester abortions and when it was working as well they’d hoped, they amped it up to talking about post-birth abortions. As in literal murder? Come on now 🤣

That’s not the party to be for.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 12:40pm On Jun 18, 2025
nateevs:
You cannot successfully argue out this case with Ibime. Ibime is an Evangelical Christian who will side with Israel, no matter what.
I'm an Evangelical Christian but you attend Redeemed abi Winners after we thought you are a Muslim named Lateef for years grin grin grin

I am not a believer Sir, don't believe any fairytale bible. My rule of thumb is which of the two groups will kill me for who I am and which country behaves like a mad dog and that's not Israel
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f):
I think more Jewish people need to be vocal of their displeasure with Netanyahu. It helps.
Unfortunately humans haven’t evolved enough to differentiate between disliking the antics of a govt versus generalizing the whole population.

IjeBos:
Your right, it infuriates me that any leader of another country can come into the US, lie to Americans, drag us into a war (Iraq war) where we lost so many young lives and which cost us trillions. And after doing that, is comfortable repeating it by spinning the same type of lives so America can again be caught up in another war (Iran). He truly thinks Americans are mumus. And I don't blame him because we are acting like it.

But the problem for Israel is that the more people see and understand what is happening, the more viscerally people will dislike Israel. Not Jewish people but the state. You just can't unsee the massive death and destruction.
And the further danger is that since Israel is a Jewish state, people will in turn focus that anger on Jews.
I'm not sure Israel is seeing the long term effects of all of this.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Maeve7: 12:59pm On Jun 18, 2025
Are we great yet? Trump the greatest job president ever. He created jobs and, don’t forget, peace around the globe.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 1:43pm On Jun 18, 2025
Why is this site banning Bluesky links?
Posted a couple of posts with Bluesky links which were summarily deleted my account banned.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:27pm On Jun 18, 2025
A Republican US Senator who is currently pushing his country into war doesn't even seem to know the population of the country he wants to fight.

And it's not just a gotcha question, it has real world consequences for both waging the war and it's after effects.

And it's Fox News' ex chief propagandist calling it out. And also calling out his old network that he used to propagandize on being a propaganda tool.
Crazy timeline we are in.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSTqFuA1FeM
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 2:37pm On Jun 18, 2025
And as to Tucker Carlson, I can't imagine how a guy who went to Prep school, wears boat shows and short vamp penny loafers and laughs like a dweeb is the Republican every man and hero to the working man.

The MAGA movement is so ridiculous.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 4:53pm On Jun 18, 2025
Supreme court uphold Tennessee ban on gender affirming care for trans minors
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 5:29pm On Jun 18, 2025
What is going on in the US.

This is now 40 characters or more.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 5:40pm On Jun 18, 2025
raumdeuter:
Supreme court uphold Tennessee ban on gender affirming care for trans minors
There should be a penalty imposed on these judges. A judge makes a decision knowing very well the ruling will be overturned by a higher court. The judge is basically sabotaging the government.
With more than 190 injunctions so far. something should be done about judges paralysing the government either from partisanship ,pure malevolence or as a result of blackmail.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico:
nateevs:
To be fair, it's not the only reason.

The Iranians communicated to the Pentagon during Trump's first term in office, a range of retaliatory options they will consider in the event of B2 bomber deployment. Trump got this briefing.

AirBases in the region, Aircraft carriers, Oil Refineries, Strait of Hormuz, Israel's Nuclear facilities (wherever they are) are all fair game......for Hypersonic missiles. None of these assets have Iron Dome. Those that have Iron Dome sef are begging relentlessly for help.

Trump needs to calculate the political costs and fallout when the numbers start to stack up in dead Soldiers and Sailors, Oil prices going through the roof, wide-spread radioactive contamination over the middle east, including over Israel, Jordan and Saudi Arabia......


All for what? Iran that is not even a threat to America.
You must be aware Iran was mining the strait during Reagan time. He bombed an oil rig then later sank every navy ship docked and any that attacked American ships. One US ship accidentally downed an Iranian airliner in another incident.
A year earlier Reagan had bombed Gaddafis tent supposedly killing his adopted daughter.
Long and short,bullies are all talk. If America acts against Khamenei he knows Trump will hit him hard .
Iran had enriched uranium to 83.7% as of 2023 at Fordow underground .What other purpose can that be used for?

Israel says they were developing a nuclear detonator. All you need after that is the enriched uranium (;which they have) and a delivery mechanism (their ballistics missile development.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by kentebemoney: 6:43pm On Jun 18, 2025
cococandy:
I want to believe this too but I don’t. I’m 100% certain nothing will satisfy Netanyahu until Palestinians are wiped off the surface of the earth. That’s also genocidal intent. And to them, Isreal is also a terrorist.

We seemed to agree on no new wars. I saw that as something reds and blues agreed on. UNTIL blood thirsty Netanyahu preemptively strikes Iran. What did he think was going to happen when he bombed them first? If he knew how dangerous they were, what exactly was he hoping to achieve by bombing them if not war? A war he fully expects U.S to jump into and start losing funds and lives over? Like we exist to pay taxes for his wars and raise our young men to go and die for his political ambition.
Israel war in Gaza, is exactly how not to commit genocide.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 7:47pm On Jun 18, 2025
basilico:
You must be aware Iran was mining the strait during Reagan time. He bombed an oil rig then later sank every navy ship docked and any that attacked American ships. One US ship accidentally downed an Iranian airliner in another incident.
A year earlier Reagan had bombed Gaddafis tent supposedly killing his adopted daughter.
Long and short,bullies are all talk. If America acts against Khamenei he knows Trump will hit him hard .
Iran had enriched uranium to 83.7% as of 2023 at Fordow underground .What other purpose can that be used for?

Israel says they were developing a nuclear detonator. All you need after that is the enriched uranium (;which they have) and a delivery mechanism (their ballistics missile development.
As a sovereign nation, Iran has a right over its decision to enrich whatever it wants to. You have no right to tell them what they can and cannot do.

Who's monitoring Israel's Nuclear capacity?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 8:01pm On Jun 18, 2025
IjeBos:
What is going on in the US.

This is now 40 characters or more.
That’s exactly what was bound to happen.
If ICE can round up anyone without identifying themselves properly. No face shown. In unmarked cars, then anyone can be ICE.
Am I supposed to willingly go with a group of men in unidentified clothing and vehicles?

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3:
nateevs:
As a sovereign nation, Iran has a right over its decision to enrich whatever it wants to. You have no right to tell them what they can and cannot do.

Who's monitoring Israel's Nuclear capacity?
Yeah, Israel and the US have the right of preemptive self-defense

South Africa has nukes... No one cares because they are not maniacs
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:30pm On Jun 18, 2025
Ibime:
which country behaves like a mad dog and that's not Israel
This made me so sad. I just felt if I could tear the walls of this internet, and show you inn person footage from Gaza showing a girl not up to two years carrying about 20 ltrs of gallon on both hands looking for water and in the background boys are looking on, disheveled and tired. I felt my tongue bitter.

I need us as Christians to tackle why are are drawn to the Nation of Israel that has obviously obviously obviously killed innocent women and babies, kids. Why can't we accept the fact that this Nation of Israel is literally different from God's dream of Israel according to the bible?

Why have we not objectively come around that thought? Why?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Obrigardo: 9:38pm On Jun 18, 2025
IjeBos:
And as to Tucker Carlson, I can't imagine how a guy who went to Prep school, wears boat shows and short vamp penny loafers and laughs like a dweeb is the Republican every man and hero to the working man.[font=Lucida Sans Unicode][/font]

The MAGA movement is so ridiculous.
I can't agree more. I'm just so sad for humanity right now much because of these evil people. The only thing we can do is take check of our stocks and be vigilant coz things can go haywire at any time. Evil, Incompetence, Mediocrity and Willful ignorance is just running rampant and maga cultic fellows keep cheering it on. It's so disheartening.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 9:43pm On Jun 18, 2025
Obrigardo:
This made me so sad. I just felt if I could tear the walls of this internet, and show you inn person footage from Gaza showing a girl not up to two years carrying about 20 ltrs of gallon on both hands looking for water and in the background boys are looking on, disheveled and tired. I felt my tongue bitter.

I need us as Christians to tackle why are are drawn to the Nation of Israel that has obviously obviously obviously killed innocent women and babies, kids. Why can't we accept the fact that this Nation of Israel is literally different from God's dream of Israel according to the bible?

Why have we not objectively come around that thought? Why?
Look at the human killed by Iranian proxies all over the world and tell why its specifically Israel you are angry about,
You are not angry about the atrocities committed by Houtis in Yemen and middle east, you are not bothered about the atrocities of Iran sponsored Hezbollah, Not worried about the atrocities of Hamas(Till today Hamas has not released the hostages nor stopped sending rockets into Israel).
Even in African you are not worried about the Iranian sponsored terror in our continent, Not black skinned folks in Darfur being wiped out by Arab backed militias, Not the Black folks in Congo, Not even people in Nigeria like in Benue. Many of these terror groups sponsored by Iran do not bother you

Its the ones in Israel where Hamas is using as human shield that bothers you. Sit back and genuinely ask yourself why the one in israel bothers you more than anywhere else in the world. You will reveal something very dark about yourself and your interest
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 9:59pm On Jun 18, 2025
basilico:
IDF is really surgical. They place targets and methodically eliminate them.
How they manage to get these locations is a case study of effective intelligence.
Your shadow could be a Mossad agent.
This is what Iran is going through
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m): 10:24pm On Jun 18, 2025
benalvino3:
Yeah, Israel and the US have the right of preemptive self-defense

South Africa has nukes... No one cares because they are not maniacs
South Africa don't have nukes. It was dismantled at the end of apartheid
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Ibime(m):
raumdeuter:
Look at the human killed by Iranian proxies all over the world and tell why its specifically Israel you are angry about,
You are not angry about the atrocities committed by Houtis in Yemen and middle east, you are not bothered about the atrocities of Iran sponsored Hezbollah, Not worried about the atrocities of Hamas(Till today Hamas has not released the hostages nor stopped sending rockets into Israel).
Even in African you are not worried about the Iranian sponsored terror in our continent, Not black skinned folks in Darfur being wiped out by Arab backed militias, Not the Black folks in Congo, Not even people in Nigeria like in Benue. Many of these terror groups sponsored by Iran do not bother you

Its the ones in Israel where Hamas is using as human shield that bothers you. Sit back and genuinely ask yourself why the one in israel bothers you more than anywhere else in the world. You will reveal something very dark about yourself and your interest
They are all genocidal against Israel, they want Israel wiped out

They get mad at collateral damage and ignore intentional genocide on Israelis

The Palestinians are in Gaza for attempting a genocide if we dial it all the way back to 1948, not to mention all the Arab countries who promised a genocide at the UN in 1947, acted on it in 1948 and wonder why Palestine got sectioned off. Will anyone live amongst a man trying to kill him?
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