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Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:36pm On Jun 22, 2025
It’s usually the wrongest and the unaffected who are often the loudest on the internet.
IjeBos:
How would they warmonger if they had to actually face consequences by leaving the safe havens of their keyboards outside of the US and US interests.

During the Iraq War we had a long debate over it which Congress ultimately voted. Here Trump decided in about 1 week by himself to bomb Iran without Congress voting or even telling non Republican members of Congress. America is broken and is now dragging the world down with it. What message has China taken away from this if it ever wanted to bomb Taiwan?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 1:40pm On Jun 22, 2025
The trump administration does not intend to offer assistance to American citizens in Iran who seek to run away from the war.

He’s embroiling American into this war but won’t help American citizens there to leave safely

https://youtube.com/shorts/TCmmViPzJI4?si=VedxArdA-RLh6sv-
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 1:42pm On Jun 22, 2025
IjeBos:
BemerucaChatGpt at it again.
What is the probability you had ever heard the word "instantiate" before ChatGpt used it for you? I reckon 0%
Insecurity is a terrible thing.
I use it in my programming all the time.
We instantiate a class by using the new keyword.

This response is from ChatGPT 😂

How is the emotional support dog helping you out?

Cococandy have forgotten her obligations. So by calling out her fake news will prompt her to fulfill her obligations. To me, she is like a program I wrote and needed to be instantiated.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:45pm On Jun 22, 2025
A40:
But there he is boldly attacking one of their allies. I thought y'all said he's a puppet of Putin.

So what changed? You people have to pick a struggle
Trump is Putin puppet. Iran is Russia ally, they provide Russia with their shaheed drones, they gave Russia a licence to manufacture the drones.
Trump who is Putin puppet , had he been told to attack Iran.
Liberal reasoning is topsy turvy.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 1:47pm On Jun 22, 2025
nateevs:
So scientists, who are just civil servants, alongside their entire families, and neighbours, are just "nuclear targets" right?

Iranian negotiators, are just "nuclear targets" right?

When Israeli Mossad admit to unleashing car bombs inside of Tehran and killing people, these are military targets.

The kain koolaid you guys drink no get definition. Israel is bombing hospitals, schools, cultural centres, universities,...... and even refugee camps in Gaza..... but we all know your responses. Human shields.

What's the toll of civilian casualties on either side again?
If someone is designing a bomb to kill you , do you attack the factory or the person
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:35pm On Jun 22, 2025
Hahahaha IjeBos responded but bots dey no gree😂

The delusions of grandeur wan finish that guy 😂. He realized that his ChatGPT lines weren't effective, and out of frustration he is very emotional.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 2:48pm On Jun 22, 2025
basilico:
If someone is designing a bomb to kill you , do you attack the factory or the person
Please stop this nonsense. Iran has been developing the hypersonic missiles for decades. They, along with people like myself, have been very well aware of what they can do with those missiles.

They could send 3000 hypersonic missiles to Israel in a surprise attack and completely wipe off the place. Iran never needed a nuke to do this, if this was their true intention.

But you guys have been conditioned to not use your brains. You don't think.



Who do you think started the rumour that Iran needs a nuke kill off am off Israel?...... I can tell you it was never an Iranian.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by benalvino3: 2:52pm On Jun 22, 2025
nateevs:
Please stop this nonsense. Iran has been developing the hypersonic missiles for decades. They, along with people like myself, have been very well aware of what they can do with those missiles.

They could send 3000 hypersonic missiles to Israel in a surprise attack and completely wipe off the place. Iran never needed a nuke to do this, if this was their true intention.

But you guys have been conditioned to not use your brains. You don't think.



Who do you think started the rumour that Iran needs a nuke kill off am off Israel?...... I can tell you it was never an Iranian.
Hyoersonic missile cannot wipe out Israel. Even if it's 6000.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 3:00pm On Jun 22, 2025
bemeruca:
I use it in my programming all the time.
We instantiate a class by using the new keyword.

This response is from ChatGPT 😂

How is the emotional support dog helping you out?

Cococandy have forgotten her obligations. So by calling out her fake news will prompt her to fulfill her obligations. To me, she is like a program I wrote and needed to be instantiated.
From a man who has a whole emotional support thread?
Insecure about who you are, pretend you are in the US.
Insecure that you can't speak English, have ChatGpt write your posts.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by ijebosb: 3:01pm On Jun 22, 2025
Clinton on this.
Hmmm whose advice would you take on Netanyahu? Bill Clinton or Trump?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvrpF2pmx-s
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:12pm On Jun 22, 2025
This is from the War Powers Act.
Trump broke the law on something as substantial as bombing Iran.
You can't be for the law only when you choose.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:14pm On Jun 22, 2025
benalvino3:
Hyoersonic missile cannot wipe out Israel. Even if it's 6000.
That's because you probably don't understand the blast range of a Hypersonic missiles; you dont understand how small Israel is, or you do understand both above but like Israelis, you say its not possible, so you can justify your fictitious and manufactured Iran's need for a nuke.


We that live in the world of truth know very well that Iran can bring Israel to a failed state status, and could have done for many years, but never did.


Warmongering genocidal maniacs.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 3:22pm On Jun 22, 2025
MY SYMPATHY WILL FOREVER BE WITH ISRAEL, REGARDLESS OF WHOSE OX IS GORED.


I WILL NEVER SUPPORT THOSE PLOTING ACTS OF TERRORISM.


ABSOLUETLY NOTHING WILL EVER CAUSE ME TO TURN MY BACK ON ISRAEL, AT BEST I MAY SAY WRONG JUDGEMENT CALL B UT ON ISRAEL I STAND.




GOD BLESS ISRAEL.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:23pm On Jun 22, 2025
Since 2023, I have realized that I am a neoconservative when it comes fo foreign policy. I am very pro-West and I welcome criticisms of the West because of my liberal values however, I don't think the West should sit down and let the bad guys win.

I don't like the Iranian regime, I want a regime change. I hate Trump, MAGA, Netanyahu etc but I rather dine with them (God forbid) than with Iranian Mullahs and it's terroristic proxies across the globe.

I support calling out the hypocrisy of the West because they are big time hypocrites but I will tolerate that hypocrisy over a tyrannical, theocratic, authoritarian and radical Islamist regime holding onto power anywhere in the World and causing harm against Muslim women and women in general.

Thank you.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:25pm On Jun 22, 2025
cococandy:
The trump administration does not intend to offer assistance to American citizens in Iran who seek to run away from the war.

He’s embroiling American into this war but won’t help American citizens there to leave safely

https://youtube.com/shorts/TCmmViPzJI4?si=VedxArdA-RLh6sv-
Orange Mussolini is truly an incompetent idiot and shouldn't be in power at this critical time. American intelligence is currently being controlled by incompetent idiots. God help us.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:29pm On Jun 22, 2025
nateevs:
Please stop this nonsense. Iran has been developing the hypersonic missiles for decades. They, along with people like myself, have been very well aware of what they can do with those missiles.

They could send 3000 hypersonic missiles to Israel in a surprise attack and completely wipe off the place. Iran never needed a nuke to do this, if this was their true intention.

But you guys have been conditioned to not use your brains. You don't think.



Who do you think started the rumour that Iran needs a nuke kill off am off Israel?...... I can tell you it was never an Iranian.
You are factually incorrect. Israel is 20000 sq kilometres
Since October 7, 2023, over 26,000 rockets, missiles, and drones have been fired at Israel from various fronts, according to the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). This includes:
13,200 from the Gaza Strip, primarily by Hamas and allied groups.

12,400 from Lebanon, mostly by Hezbollah.

400 from Iran, in two direct attacks on April 13 and October 1, 2024.

180 from Yemen, attributed to Houthi rebels.

60 from Syria.



Just above a rocket and a half per sq kilometer. If Israel didn't have bomb shelters, iron Dome , Arrow and David's Sling ,Air to air defence how many dead you think they would have suffered ?
All these were financed , if not supplied by Iran.
In short those were meant to annihilate Israel .Don't second guess this
Hesbolla was boasting 150,000 rockets pointed at Israel ,they still have the many that were not destroyed.

You think those 26000 rockets and missiles were tipped with chocolate & candy and their whizzing sound is a lullaby for children? Remember 99% or more of those explosives have no precise target they are just fired at the populated areas. To maximize casualties.

If you read Sinwar request to Palestinian Commander of the IRGC he asked for $500 million to obliterate Israel, which was provided

Israel enemies mean what they say. It's not upon you to tell me otherwise.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:29pm On Jun 22, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
Since 2023, I have realized that I am a neoconservative when it comes fo foreign policy. I am very pro-West and I welcome criticisms of the West because of my liberal values however, I don't think the West should sit down and let the bad guys win.

I don't like the Iranian regime, I want a regime change. I hate Trump, MAGA, Netanyahu etc but I rather dine with them (God forbid) than with Iranian Mullahs and it's terroristic proxies across the globe.

I support calling out the hypocrisy of the West because they are big time hypocrites but I will tolerate that hypocrisy over a tyrannical, theocratic, authoritarian and radical Islamist regime holding onto power anywhere in the World and causing harm against Muslim women and women in general.

Thank you.
When and where has neoconservatism worked?
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:29pm On Jun 22, 2025
nateevs:
That's because you probably don't understand the blast range of a Hypersonic missiles; you dont understand how small Israel is, or you do understand both above but like Israelis, you say its not possible, so you can justify your fictitious and manufactured Iran's need for a nuke.


We that live in the world of truth know very well that Iran can bring Israel to a failed state status, and could have done for many years, but never did.


Warmongering genocidal maniacs.
You understand missiles or blast radius in general.

Just calling a missile "hypersonic" doesn’t mean it has a large blast radius, rather, it’s the warhead that determines that. Some may not even have a war head. China claimed to have hypersonic missile with nuclear war head. That said, the missile itself is not large enough to cause significant damage solely through kinetic energy.

The real danger of missiles like this comes from the shrapnel that flies in all directions as a result of the blast. Debris from the earth as well as materials from the missile itself. This shrapnel is what can cause damage to windows, cars and buildings far away from the blast area. If people are not in the line of sight of the blast, they will almost always remain safe.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:34pm On Jun 22, 2025
Ted Cruz on the legality of what Trump did.
Oh, this was when it was a Dem President.

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by nateevs(m): 3:34pm On Jun 22, 2025
IjeBos:
This is from the War Powers Act.
Trump broke the law on something as substantial as bombing Iran.
You can't be for the law only when you choose.
I already responded to Ibime on this same topic earlier today.

You will find in this instance that the hate for Iran trumps the needs to be democratic, until the need to be democratic actually affects us.

What Ibime has displayed to us here is the exact reason Trump won the elections. Just like the Hispanics voted to hurt other people (until it came full circle on them), the likes of Ibime are saying Trump is allowed to hurt other people, and I don't care if he's undemocratic about it.

You see A40 say, "I am anti-war but......"


You are either anti-war or you are not. If there's a but, it means your principles never got limit-tested.


The grand problem is with handing more power to the maniac (Trump) we are allowing to fight our "fights". This maniac does not understand boundaries of power. Whilst today it is the Arabians, tomorrow it will be the blacks. Then we would suddenly want him to be democratic.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by cococandy(f): 3:41pm On Jun 22, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
Orange Mussolini is truly an incompetent idiot and shouldn't be in power at this critical time. American intelligence is currently being controlled by incompetent idiots. God help us.
Like literally none of this would be happening now if this man’s jealousy and hate for Obama didn’t make him pull us out of a treaty that kept Iran in check.

Now they want to rewrite history.
He’s to blame 100% and I hope everyone keeps talking about how this is all his fault
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:45pm On Jun 22, 2025
IjeBos:
When and where has neoconservatism worked?
It didn't become a formal political ideology until the 1960s but I argue that it ended World War 2 and the Cold War.

I don't even need it to work. I need it to deter mad people who aim to destroy Democracies and don't embrace Liberal ideals on Human rights etc.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by AmazonTopaz(f): 3:46pm On Jun 22, 2025
cococandy:
Like literally none of this would be happening now if this man’s jealousy and hate for Obama didn’t make him pull us out of a treaty that kept Iran in check.

Now they want to rewrite history.
He’s to blame 100% and I hope everyone keeps talking about how this is all his fault
At least the nonsense rhetoric of "Trump is the peace president, when Trump is President there would be no wars" finally does."

Everyone who believed it are fools.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:46pm On Jun 22, 2025
nateevs:
I already responded to Ibime on this same topic earlier today.

You will find in this instance that the hate for Iran trumps the needs to be democratic, until the need to be democratic actually affects us.

What Ibime has displayed to us here is the exact reason Trump won the elections. Just like the Hispanics voted to hurt other people (until it came full circle on them), the likes of Ibime are saying Trump is allowed to hurt other people, and I don't care if he's undemocratic about it.

You see A40 say, "I am anti-war but......"


You are either anti-war or you are not. If there's a but, it means your principles never got limit-tested.


The grand problem is with handing more power to the maniac (Trump) we are allowing to fight our "fights". This maniac does not understand boundaries of power. Whilst today it is the Arabians, tomorrow it will be the blacks. Then we would suddenly want him to be democratic.
Yeah, that's the frustrating and disappointing thing about reading Ibime.
You can't be for democracy and the rule of law only when it suits you.
Then it's no longer democracy or the rule of law.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by basilico: 3:48pm On Jun 22, 2025
bemeruca:
You understand missiles or blast radius in general.

Just calling a missile "hypersonic" doesn’t mean it has a large blast radius, rather, it’s the warhead that determines that. Some may not even have a war head. China claimed to have hypersonic missile with nuclear war head. That said, the missile itself is not large enough to cause significant damage solely through kinetic energy.

The real danger of missiles like this comes from the shrapnel that flies in all directions as a result of the blast. Debris from the earth as well as materials from the missile itself. This shrapnel is what can cause damage to windows, cars and buildings far away from the blast area. If people are not in the line of sight of the blast, they will almost always remain safe.
Bemeruca. Hypersonic missiles are a different animal. Their trajectory is not straight forward like a ballistic missile. They dance and wiggle like WizKid. They are not as fast as ballistic but are highly maneuverable
In a bomb the shockwave is a big killer, the blast wave compresses the air rupturing internal organs The fragments also kill and maim a lot of people. The blast wave also flings victims causing trauma deaths.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 3:48pm On Jun 22, 2025
IRAN CANNOT HAVE NUCLEAR WEAPON.



NOT JUST WORDS, BACKED UP WITH THE MOTHER OF ALL BOMBING AND LEVELLING OF ALL IRANIAN NUCLEAR SITES.




NOW, THEY WILL BEG TO RETURN TO THE NEGOTIATION TABLE AND SHOW US THEIR BARGAINNING CHIP.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by Stolen: 3:50pm On Jun 22, 2025
LOVE HOW TRUMP CAME IN AT THE RIGHT TIME TO TAKE THE BIG MOMMENT RESERVED FOR AMERICA.



ISRAEL REVENGE ON THE GENERALS, AMERICA TOOK OUT THE TERRORIST BARGAINING CHIP.



NO NEGOTIATING WITH TERRORIST LIKE THE TERRORIST OBAMA./

Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by IjeBos(m): 3:54pm On Jun 22, 2025
AmazonTopaz:
It didn't become a formal political ideology until the 1960s but I argue that it ended World War 2 and the Cold War.

I don't even need it to work. I need it to deter mad people who aim to destroy Democracies and don't embrace Liberal ideals on Human rights etc.
I think it's giving it too much credit for WW2 and the Cold War.
But I don't only think it doesn't work, I think it has the opposite effects.

People will fight for what they want, propping up a government doesn't do that.
Look at Iraq and Afghanistan.
What we can do is show those people a different way to live and allow them to choose it.

Look at 9/11. Do you really think Bin Laden attacked the US because of our "freedoms"?
No, it was because of US intervention in the Middle East.
It's odd that Americans feel that we are the only ones who want self determination.
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by bemeruca: 3:57pm On Jun 22, 2025
basilico:
Bemeruca. Hypersonic missiles are a different animal. Their trajectory is not straight forward like a ballistic missile. They dance and wiggle like WizKid. They are not as fast as ballistic but are highly maneuverable
In a bomb the shockwave is a big killer, the blast wave compresses the air rupturing internal organs The fragments also kill and maim a lot of people. The blast wave also flings victims causing trauma deaths.
Hypersonic refers to speed above Mach 5.
You have missiles like Tamahawk that are subsonic but highly maneuverable.

So the maneuverability aspect of an hyposonic missile is a feature that can be implemented or removed from the missile
Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by raumdeuter: 3:57pm On Jun 22, 2025
A federal judge has asked the Trump administration to restore the nuclear facilities of Iran.
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