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I tot I will see records.

Mtchew! Nonsense.

Just the useless rant of some pathetic folks that want to match some folks but can't.

Keep crying. Igbo remains Igbo and you can't come a million times near.

No wonder they are dying wanting to marry Igbo girls.
Pure stock is what it is.
Igbo marry Igbo pure not polluted.

I think the first thing is to define culture. Its the way a people live and perform specific functions now. If you have been doing some thing for the past 300 years and continue doing so, that's culture. It does not mean that 300 years ago you did not learn to do such a thing from someone else.

Similarly, tradition is a way of doing things that spans from the past.
Reno Omkri, should educate himself on the difference between origination and tradition. That Yorubas spin clothing, does not mean they did not learn weaving from Fulani Arabs, who even gave them the name "Yoru-ba" or "Yari-ba". Infact we all know the Fulanis would have added Yoruba land to their colonies if the Western civilization did not interfare, cause they already sold Islam to them. Next step was to give them an emir and condemn their own Kings, which they already did in Kwara.

Similarly Igbos learnt weaving from the western colonisers and make akawette cloth. And also adopt various clothing from the white man over, centuries ago, making them part of their culture.

Coming on media to compare colonial adaptations of Yorubas from Fulani colonizers and Igbos from Western colonizers seems kind of demented and aimless attentions seeking.

LagosOrigin:
The suit and jeans that you wear were also given to you by your drunken master ancestors too right ?

Suit and tie are not my cultural/native attire. I hardly wear suit and tie. I’m more comfortable in my Yoruba native attire.

Small minds delete every pro-Igbo comment here. One insinuated that Igbo had no culture until the white man gave them culture.

bigpicture001:
Go check it history, in 1903, yorubas are not known to wear their regalia... They dnt even wear clothes..

So do hausa, tiv , Noni etc.. no one in Africa created the clothes they now call culture clothes.. everyone got it from Somewhere, so if Reno keeps fooling himself with senseless tweet because he knows that slaves will always click, they I dnt blame Reno, instead I blame his slave followers...

Speak for your tribe or ethnic group alone.

There were cities in Africa and Kingdom in Nigeria that had a working system with clothing before any encounter with western or non African influence.

O pari..I actually recall learning this some years ago but we focused on the imported dressing adopted in the Niger Delta. I didn't know that the Igbo dressing today is also a symbol of cultural appropriation of other people's dressing and a symbol of colonialism.
Ir is not too late to develop your own authentic attire though.

Kudos to the Yoruba for giving Africans authentic indigenous fabric making knowledge

Kalulu44:
Ok, as they now adopted it. What wrong have they done?

Nothing. Just setting the records straight and that shouldn’t trigger anyone.

shortgun:
It doesn't make any sense.
How will Europeans wear winter caps in hot Africa, under the scorching African sun.
Reno O monkey the dumbo just want to be a nuisance.

but people wear chair cloth under this hot weather as traditional wear.

Hehehehe
No wonder they wan link with Ile Ife!
I don laugh tire

shortgun:
It doesn't make any sense.
How will Europeans wear winter caps in hot Africa, under the scorching African sun.
Reno O monkey the dumbo just want to be a nuisance.

There was no scorching sun when they left Europe. They wore it from Europe and all through the sea. On getting to Africa, they saw no use for it again and dropped them for Ibo natives who converted them to titled caps.

GerogeI:
I think the first thing is to define culture. Its the way a people live and perform specific functions now. If you have been doing some thing for the past 300 years and continue doing so, that's culture. It does not mean that 300 years ago you did not learn to do such a thing from someone else.

Similarly, tradition is a way of doing things that spans from the past.
Reno Omkri, should educate himself on the difference between origination and tradition. That Yorubas spin clothing, does not mean they did not learn weaving from Fulani Arabs, who even gave them the name "Yoru-ba" or "Yari-ba". Infact we all know the Fulanis would have added Yoruba land to their colonies if the Western civilization did not interfare, cause they already sold Islam to them. Next step was to give them an emir and condemn their own Kings, which they already did in Kwara.

Similarly Igbos learnt weaving from the western colonisers and make akawette cloth. And also adopt various clothing from the white man over, centuries ago, making them part of their culture.

Coming on media to compare colonial adaptations of Yorubas from Fulani colonizers and Igbos from Western colonizers seems kind of demented and aimless attentions seeking.

I am not sure you understand the facts and education you just got for free. Nothing is authentically indigenous to the South-East but in ignorance being thought as such.

Here's another record that shows that the clothes were even coming from Yorubaland through the efforts of the Yoruba clergyman, Bishop Ajayi Crowther, who brought Christianity to Igbo land

seunmsg:
Nothing. Just setting the records straight and that shouldn’t trigger anyone.

Did anyone ask him to set the record straight or he's just looking for cheap attention

See what’s making frontpage on a National forum?


Seems Nairaland is bereft of ideas

Reno, please pity them na.

They are coming for you anyway.

bigpicture001:
Go check it history, in 1903, yorubas are not known to wear their regalia... They dnt even wear clothes..

So do hausa, tiv , Noni etc.. no one in Africa created the clothes they now call culture clothes.. everyone got it from Somewhere, so if Reno keeps fooling himself with senseless tweet because he knows that slaves will always click, they I dnt blame Reno, instead I blame his slave followers...

Da bi mo se da.

I'm sure Yoruba doesn't belong to any of the primitive no clothing blog of African race. Yoruba have always had a high sense of fashion and dignity.

Igbo do not have culture, they lack creativity

They full of copy copy

Kukutente23:
Reno the rabblerouser is right and he is wrong

The igbo cultural attire before colonialism is similar to that of the Benins. It was mostly a single wrapper tied round the waist with the chest left bare. The elders in Igboland usually tie the wrappers across their left shoulders in toga style. Wearing of wrappers made of raffia palm was also part of the cultural dressing then
The Yoruba on the other hand learn the art of weaving and yarning and also dyeing and tieing of clothes and thus had distinct forms of dressing from all other tribes that make up Nigeria today
Even the Hausa dressing of today is influenced from the Islamic mode of dressing that was obtained from the Malian and Shonghai empire
Thus, in terms of acceptable modern dressing, the Yoruba takes the crown among all tribes in Ngera

Yoruba Amaka!
Yoruba Amaka!!
Originality Yapa gan!!!

Mynd44:
This is not the point. Those who wear "suit, jeans and sneakers" already know that the attire is not "native" and they do not present it as such unlike the people who would wear "Ankara" and say they are wearing native attires.

No, they style might be native but the fabric is not and that is the point. There is no difference between an Ijaw man wearing so-called traditional wear hats and you wearing a suit but you wearing a suit don't say you are wearing your cultural attire

Seun you cannot keep the guy as a mod. This is a non issue from a person of Reno who's always up to nothing good about the easterners and your supposed mod should keep away from this.

This is how Nigerians keep getting deceived and distracted from main national issues that affects them and the children.

Slytiger:
Lol..you are right about that chair fabric. I saw it somewhere on Twitter and I laughed so hard.

Haaa! Una wicked ooo.

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Are there people who actually believe their ancestors wore shirts with cufflinks and pendants? Or are there people who believed their ancestors have textile milling companies that could print lion's head on clothes?

If those things are native, you would have people who can make them without any machine. Aso oke are mostly handwoven till date.

Goodvibes007:
Even the red cap originated from Europe. The British gave it to them to distinguish their chiefs from their commoners.

Please NOTE these historical facts!

The red chieftaincy cap is ORIGINALLY of Middle Belt of Nigeria origin and was brought from Igalaland where it was ORIGINALLY introduced into the Nsukka area from where it spread to other parts of the South East of Nigeria that didn't even come under the influence of the Igala Kingdom and culture like Anambra, Enugu, and parts of Delta North such as Asaba, Okpanam, etc.

The other parts of the Middle Belt of Nigeria ALSO CLEARLY wear the red chieftaincy cap from the Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi States, Ebiras and Igalas of Kogi State and outside Kogi State, the Jukuns, etc.

So, the red chieftaincy cap is NOT originally indigenous to the sub-tribes now collectively known as Ibos east of river Niger.

GerogeI:
I think the first thing is to define culture. Its the way a people live and perform specific functions now. If you have been doing some thing for the past 300 years and continue doing so, that's culture. It does not mean that 300 years ago you did not learn to do such a thing from someone else.

Similarly, tradition is a way of doing things that spans from the past.
Reno Omkri, should educate himself on the difference between origination and tradition. That Yorubas spin clothing, does not mean they did not learn weaving from Fulani Arabs, who even gave them the name "Yoru-ba" or "Yari-ba". Infact we all know the Fulanis would have added Yoruba land to their colonies if the Western civilization did not interfare, cause they already sold Islam to them. Next step was to give them an emir and condemn their own Kings, which they already did in Kwara.

Similarly Igbos learnt weaving from the western colonisers and make akawette cloth. And also adopt various clothing from the white man over, centuries ago, making them part of their culture.

Coming on media to compare colonial adaptations of Yorubas from Fulani colonizers and Igbos from Western colonizers seems kind of demented and aimless attentions seeking.

My brother,it's just so horrible what we busy ourselves with in this country.. we've got a lotta very long way to go,so sad. The hatred and division is just too much..and to think a mod was playing this game along!

seunmsg:
My ancestors have been weaving Aso Oke, dying adire and making damask long before a white man ever visited Africa. Isi-Agu and those red and colored winter caps were all gifted to the Ibos by Europeans and they simply adopted it as their cultural attires in the absence of any one before.

The Igbos were walking naked before the colonies

AlphaMogul:
Please NOTE these historical facts!

The red chieftaincy cap is ORIGINALLY of Middle Belt of Nigeria origin and was brought from Igalaland where it was ORIGINALLY introduced into the Nsukka area from where it spread to other parts of the South East of Nigeria that didn't even come under the influence of the Igala Kingdom and culture like Anambra, Enugu, and parts of Delta North such as Asaba, Okpanam, etc.

The other parts of the Middle Belt of Nigeria ALSO CLEARLY wear the red chieftaincy cap from the Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi States, Ebiras and Igalas of Kogi State and outside Kogi State, the Jukuns, etc.

So, the red chieftaincy cap is NOT originally indigenous to the sub-tribes now collectively known as Ibos east of river Niger.

False. The Yorubas of Kwara and Kogi DO NOT wear red caps traditionally.

babtoundey:
Da bi mo se da.

I'm sure Yoruba doesn't belong to any of the primitive no clothing blog of African race. Yoruba have always had a high sense of fashion and dignity.

They created wool from where in 1903..stop this ur self deceit ND call a spade a spade...it is not a shovel.

bigpicture001:
Go check it history, in 1903, yorubas are not known to wear their regalia... They dnt even wear clothes..

So do hausa, tiv , Noni etc.. no one in Africa created the clothes they now call culture clothes.. everyone got it from Somewhere, so if Reno keeps fooling himself with senseless tweet because he knows that slaves will always click, they I dnt blame Reno, instead I blame his slave followers...

Hey! STOP that disinformation right there. There are several pictures taken before 1900 showing that Yorubas wore cloths and weaved their cloths. Most of the Yoruba women largely tied wrappers around their bodies BUT did NOT were the upper buba in those archival photo materials I saw. The economically and militarily strong Oyo Empire going back to several centuries had cloth weavers with vast numbers of looms which they exported to nearby Kingdoms through long-distance trading which Oyo Empire engaged in.

Indeed, one of the European explorers who visited or passed through the Oyo Empire in the 17th century stated in one of the advanced history books that the woven fabric made by the Yoruba weavers was STRONGER and more durable that Manchester cloth. If I get the exact title of the history book, I will update my post. The Whites meticulously kept records of their travels in archives so we know what they saw from first-hand knowledge.

However, some ethnic groups did NOT wear clothes like the Koma people of Old Gongola and even the Ibo interior tribes where half-clotged with many photograph even right after 1900 in Udi hills now in Enugu State showing males wearing just loin cloth and women NOT covering their breasts and using ONLY a loin cloth to just cover their lower private parts. It was the same with Ibo men as described ALSO by Chinua Achebe in his books.

So, based on cultural exposures going back to centuries, advanced African societies and ethnic groups wore cloths while some others who the Governor General of Nigeria and Ghana, Sir Allan Burns in his popular book entitled: "The History of Nigeria" CLEARLY called "primitive African societies" who wore little to NO cloths, engaged in cannibalism or eating human beings, and did not form advanced civilizations like the Benin Empire, the Oyo Empire, the Kanem-Borno Kingdom, the Ashanti Empire, etc.

Aro confederacy wasn't in 18th and 19th century and Okpuagu predates that. Etibo, hats and all those clothing worn by Ijaw was a Western introduction but Okpuagu isn't. Only Igbos and her neighbouring tribes in Niger Delta and Crossriver wore Okpuagu. Finally white clothes also called Akwaocha is as old as Igbo but it was just used as loin not shirts like the Europeans.

AlphaMogul:
Hey! STOP that disinformation right there. There are several pictures taken before 1900 showing that Yorubas wore cloths and weaved their cloths. Most of the Yoruba women largely tied wrappers around their bodies BUT did NOT were the upper buba in those archival photo materials I saw. The economically and militarily strong Oyo Empire going back to several centuries had cloth weavers with vast numbers of looms which they exported to nearby Kingdoms through long-distance trading which Oyo Empire engaged in.

Indeed, one of the European explorers who visited or passed through the Oyo Empire in the 17th century stated in one of the advanced history books that the woven fabric made by the Yoruba weavers was STRONGER and more durable that Manchester cloth. If I get the exact title of the history book, I will update my post. The Whites meticulously kept records of their travels in archives so we know what they saw from first-hand knowledge.

However, some ethnic groups did NOT wear clothes like the Koma people of Old Gongola and even the Ibo interior tribes where half-clotged with many photograph even right after 1900 in Udi hills now in Enugu State showing males wearing just loin cloth and women NOT covering their breasts and using ONLY a loin cloth to just cover their lower private parts. It was the same with Ibo men as described ALSO by Chinua Achebe in his books.

So, based on cultural exposures going back to centuries, advanced African societies and ethnic groups wore cloths while some others who the Governor General of Nigeria and Ghana, Sir Allan Burns in his popular book entitled: "The History of Nigeria" CLEARLY called "primitive African societies" who wore little to NO cloths, engaged in cannibalism or eating human beings, and did not form advanced civilizations like the Benin Empire, the Oyo Empire, the Kanem-Borno Kingdom, the Ashanti Empire, etc.

Africans generally wore no clothes but instead wrappers, loin clothes and anklets. That dressing you see on Zulus is the real African ancient dressing but everyone modified to modern day fashion in their own way.